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Peter King On Nnamdi Asomugha And The Houston Texans

It’s the start of another week here, so it’s mandatory that we have another post on the Houston Texans' secondary and the hottest soon-to-be free agent cornerback Nnamdi Asomugha, whom the Texans will be targeting heavily when the NFL Lockout ends…or will they? More behind a very quick jump.

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SI.com’s Peter King isn’t so sure that Houston will pursue Mr. Asomugha. In his latest installment of Monday Morning Quarterback, he doesn’t "get the sense" (read: he’s speculating that they won’t as opposed to having insider information) that Bob McNair and company will target the All-Pro cornerback. Of course not; why would McNair want one of the elite cornerbacks (and all around good off-the-field guy) on his roster?

Perfect sense aside, King still lists reasons why the Texans should pony up the major bucks for Nnamdi later in his MMQB article. You can click here to read that, but let me save you the trouble: the secondary was absolutely pitiful, gave up ridiculous statistics that sound more like they came from the end of a Madden franchise season than a real team, and adding more rookies (Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael, and Shiloh Keo) won’t fix those issues.

Our friends at Cincy Jungle question the idea that the Texans, pending free agency rules, could be heavily targeting Johnathan Joseph. They also cite a recent Chron.com chat where our dear friend John McClain throws out the names Joseph, Ike Taylor, Richard Marshall, and Carlos Rogers as more likely targets.

That brings about this talking point: Should the Texans invest time in the Scrabble Sweepstakes or go hard after one of those other guys?

I’m still very pro-Nnamdi, but reading King’s speculation of $18 million per season makes me pause and think. We’re talking top NFL players money here with that high cost, when you could spend less for a quality cornerback and have some cash to get some other solid-to-good guys (like maybe Eric Weddle and re-signing Vonta Leach…please?).

If Philadelphia and Dallas want to get into a bidding war, as has been speculated by many, then I’d rather see Houston quietly grab Joseph or Marshall to start their shopping season. I wouldn’t mind that move at all and would even call it some shrewd thinking if they grabbed a decent safety and re-signed the All-Pro fullback.

However, if the Texans shy away from Nnamdi to target Taylor (a product of the Pittsburgh system) or Rogers (who I believe has been in decline for the last few seasons) then I would rage at the front office in a way reminiscent of Tim after a 12-hour bender of Zima and Coors Light.

So what say you, faithful BRB brothers and sisters? Is $18 million per season too rich for your blood? Is it Nnamdi or bust regardless of the cost because it’s Bob McNair’s money? Are you prepared for the potentially underwhelming and, to borrow a phrase from Mr. McCown, "That's so Texans" signings of Ike Taylor and Gerald Sensabaugh? If I continue to ask questions, will you answer them? Can the NFL Lockout please be over now?

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I saw that article.

It read like something that even Bleacher Report would think was too stupid to publish.

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by MDC on Jun 20, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is it

John Harris of the Pittsburgh-Tribune, like he doesn’t have a biased interest in that….

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by Rip Jersey on Jun 20, 2011 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe the guys wants others to go after Taylor

So they can get a real CB to replace him.

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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 21, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I love cats too.

I just can’t eat a whole one in one sitting.

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by UprootedTexan on Jun 21, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

No. Just indigestion.

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by UprootedTexan on Jun 22, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just add oregano and that should clear up....

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by Rip Jersey on Jun 22, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

its hard to have stats when quarterbacks are too scared to even look at your side of the field

If you were a lion are you gonna go after the fully grown pissed off hippo or the blind three legged baby gazelle that is the rest of the raiders secondary?

by bhamelhou on Jun 21, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'd go hard at Joseph, if possible.

He tends to get lumped in with everyone else below Asomugha’s talent level, but I think he’s a cut above the rest of the pack, and probably a top-fifteen CB in this league. I’d rather shell out $19-12 million per year for him than get stuck with Taylor or Marshall for a couple million less. And if you make a run at him early while everyone is occupied with the Nnamdi sweepstakes, maybe you get a steal.

by Nashmeister on Jun 20, 2011 3:09 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes, the first call needs to be an earnest effort at signing him too!

Let’s remember, it’s not just the performance of Nnamdi you get in the deal. Yeah he’ll delliver, for at least 3 to 5 more years, but you also get….

- A noticeable shift projected from the front office, telling everyone “we are serious about winning!”
- A mentor for the young defensive backs we have, who “could” develop under a seasoned stud.
- 1/3 of the field erased from consideration by opposing QB’s, further tightening the funnel of opportunity into a “kill zone” for the rest of our defense

I’d say it’s worth $15M to $18M a year, especially if it translates into winning the division, and deep playoff action if not the Superbowl itself.

by MeMongo on Jun 20, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I never even look at AJ

when playing the Raiders on Madden. (Inevitable video game comparison)

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by BRBUSAFTexan on Jun 20, 2011 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

then you dont use the right plays :)

one of the singleback formations has a play called “Texans Under” and 2/3 times, andre shreds Revis or Nnamdi. any other db is just f*cked sideways by it.

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by BattleRedHusker on Jun 21, 2011 5:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

I use baby Shanny's offense

cuz I like roll out and option deep bomb AJ or JJ. It’s reminiscent of 2009 offense of fun.

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by BRBUSAFTexan on Jun 21, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've had games where I don't even throw in Andre's direction until the 4th quarter

Mainly cause I’m showing the other team I have more weapons than just Andre, so feel free to double team him all day

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by The Night Owl on Jun 21, 2011 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I do that too

but it’s hard to beat Packers and Raiders online when they use that 1-6-4 crap blitz up the middle. How do you beat that when Schaub can’t run anywhere?

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by BRBUSAFTexan on Jun 21, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, don't hate on the 1-5-5

I love that defense. Also that’s what screens, slants, & curls are for

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by The Night Owl on Jun 22, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rec'd +1

 I was going to say the same thing, but redundancy sucks.

by Vince Stros on Jun 21, 2011 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

This.

Call Nnamdi, offer him half of the universe. If he wants the whole universe, say no thanks and call Joseph and offer him a quarter of the universe. If the Texans don’t walk away with either one of the two then it’s likely they still haven’t learned.

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by Jon Banks on Jun 20, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think we should hedge our bet

Rick Smith should call Nnamdis agent on a cell phone and have J Josephs agane ton the land line. Promise the world to one and a hemisphere or two to the other, if Nnamdi bites then you act like you are entering a tunnel and hang up on Josephs agent. If Nnamdi wants the world laid in a hollowed out jalapeno filled with cream cheese, wrapped in bacon (grilled til the bacon is crispy) then you make Joseph believe you didnt even go after Nnamdi and that HE was our first priority and maybe we can still comeout winners!

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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 20, 2011 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It reminds of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CemLiSI5ox8

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by Schlauton on Jun 20, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Call me crazy but,

I know I’m in the minority here, but I’m okay with jason allen at cb 1 kareem jackson at cb 2 and brandon harris at nickel..

by Carter Liles on Jun 20, 2011 3:33 PM CDT reply actions  

You're crazy

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by Jon Banks on Jun 20, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think "crazy" would be a step up from what you're proposing.

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by UprootedTexan on Jun 20, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Crazy Indeed
All right, so listen. Why don’t you give me a call when you want to start taking things a little more seriously? Here’s my card.

by MeMongo on Jun 20, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

thing is,

I think allen is a stud. He just hasrnt settled in yet. Jackson also showed some improvement at the end of last year…

by Carter Liles on Jun 20, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im with you in that I will not freak out if we dont pull a top tier CB

I think the scheme change alone will improve our defense. We dont need to be top 10…. only decent.

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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 20, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you sure you should do that?

There may be other comments that never met you but have heard things about you and might want to comment on it.

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by Rip Jersey on Jun 20, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dang it...

As soon as I saw “rick smith agrees” I knew I was completley wrong. Sorrry guys.

by Carter Liles on Jun 20, 2011 9:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great now people are gonna get us confused...

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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 21, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why did you reply to yourself?

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by Jon Banks on Jun 21, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shiiiitttttttttttttttt

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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 21, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like something like Josh Wilson + Eric Weddle if Nnamdi isn't a possibility.

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by krkenney on Jun 20, 2011 3:54 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree with

Mango.. We get the #1 or 2 cb in the league.. And some with the character to actually WANT 2 mentor… judgin by what wade said bout kjax be terrible in his mechanics (too high) we need some in the mentor dept.. Which remimds me of all the hes the most pro ready..PLZ!

by Mike Ram on Jun 20, 2011 4:00 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

my 2 cents

I would love Namndi here. But if it’s at the cost people are talking then NO… If it’s my call I get Richard Marshall/Jonathan Joseph AND Eric Weddel/Michael Huff for the same price scrabble is asking. But if my football wet dream happened…. We sign Huff, resign Leach AND then Big Dre’s offseason recruiting works and Ochocinco and Chromartie come here. Shutting EVERYBODY UP. We sweep the south then see how far in the playoffs that brings us. I’m guessing SB champs. Still can’t write it cuz I don’t wanna jinx it

by TEXANSNUTT on Jun 20, 2011 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I would love to have Asomugha

but I wouldnt want to pay someone that type of money who dosent really want to be here.

by jtr bmf 281 on Jun 20, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

If you pay someone that kind of cash

They’d change their tune in an instant.

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by TexansDC on Jun 20, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I’ve seen Asomugha interviewed and also his “help others videos” and the guy has great character. He’d fall in love with the people of Texas if he came here and gave us a chance. Football is his business, and like anyone who’s at the top of their field, they demand a valuable price for their services. The investment would pay off for a decade if he mentors the new guys like I’m sure he would.

by MeMongo on Jun 20, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree!!!

Albert Haynesworth, Javon Walker…AHMAN GREEN!!!! They didnt seem to be affected by the money. Wait Ahman had a death in the family, bad kids and a boo boo onhis knee. Smith should have pampered himinstead of asking him if he was faking

by TEXANSNUTT on Jun 20, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Alphabet has already had one big contract

The only reason he is on the market is because of a loophole that gave him an out . He got a huge contract from the raiders, and despite being on one of the most dysfunctional teams ever he was still at the top of his game. There’s some players you do worry about if they will still be hungry after getting the big bucks, but Alphabet isn’t one of them He’s already proved that.

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by papabear on Jun 20, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

When will the lock out end

King’s article sounds like pure filler to me. Just speculating because there is literally nothing football related to talk about. I’m not hating on him for that. Like I said, what else is he going to do.

My question on Nmadi is the same as has always been. Make an effort to sign him, but don’t wait around it. Go after Joesph right from the opening bell too. I would much rather have Joseph and Weddle (or some other combination of quality CB/S) than just Nmamdi…but if you can get Nmamdi, get him. I don’t care about sending a message. Messages don’t win games. Any boost to clubs image among fans quickly goes away if the results aren’t there…and our problems on defense go beyond just one CB.

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by papabear on Jun 20, 2011 4:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Pancakes is clueless

but he did nothing more than cite top free agent cornerback names plus Carlos Rogers…so he can’t be totally wrong on that. If he’s wrong then it means the Texans stand pat with youth (again!)….at which point we’ll be too busy plotting a riot at Reliant to make fun of him being wrong.

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by TexansDC on Jun 20, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's my point

He’s just listing off the top CB’s. He has no idea what the Texans plans are on any of them. If he did get some inside info that he could leak to the public it would probably be a smokescreen. That’s more of testament to how the Texans operate than a knock against McClain.

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by papabear on Jun 20, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I tend to agree with you

about the “sending messages” aspect not equating to performance, if we are only talking about fans, and marketing. The part of “sending messages” that “could” impact overall team performance is that it infuses a winning fuel into the team. They get the message that they are well supported by the front office, and will recruit players that are respected and at the top of their game (not just washouts like Ahman), and that all jobs are at risk and need to be earned.

That type of message can kick the rest of the team into an up-tempo swagger and bring a new level of fight to the field. That’s where I was going with the “sending a message” more than anything.

by MeMongo on Jun 20, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember when we didn't sign Nate Clements and San Fran did

There were a bunch of Texans fans talking about how San Fran was more serious about winning than we were and the team should have signed him to send a message. People may not be on Nmandi’s level, but he set the record for highest paid defensive player at the time. I guess the rest of San Fran’s players didn’t get the message that they were supposed to be better.

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by papabear on Jun 20, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, that's a great point

Another element that putting him specifically, over the others on the list, in our secondary does though is it let’s the front seven on defense know they can really GO without hesitation and panic about how vulnerable things have been back there. That’s a huge infusion of confidence vs the manic hesitation and uncertainty we’ve seen demonstrated mostly by the linebackers with knowing they had such a weak secondary waiting to get slaughtered.

In fairness, I think we have much better talent on our roster than SF. One player couldn’t save SF unless his name is Payton Manning, and even he’d probably fail to pull them out of the ditch.

by MeMongo on Jun 20, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Assuming Quinn goes to safety and plays well and we sign Nmamdi

That still leaves questions at one CB spots. Allen, Jackson, or a youngster might be able to step it up, but they haven’t done it yet so your are taking a chance if you count on one of those guys to stand up to the increased number of balls that would be thrown their way. We would also still have one hole at safety. Demeco and Cush aren’t anything special in coverage and we have no idea how good Barwin or Reed will be. Still potentially plenty of holes even if we do sign Namdi. Namdi could conceivably make it easier on the secondary by allowing them to focus all their attention elsewhere….but a double team doesn’t do any good if neither guy can cover.

I’m all about signing him if we can. I would be willing to take the financial risk. He’s just not going to be a magic pill. Other players already on the team will need to improve or we will need to find a way to bring in other capable FA’s. I worry that it could be Namdi and we’re done. I would rather go good vet CB+good vet Safety. AS good as I think Wade is, players make the scheme.

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by papabear on Jun 20, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Endorse this strategy also

Rick needs to make one 40 yd dash towards Nnamdi, and when he loses go after Joseph like his job depends on it. Use the rest of the money to sign Vonta and hopefully a vet safety like Weddle. Nnamdi is great, but I like the idea of getting 3 quality players over getting just him. As great as Nnamdi is, I’m not sure he would improve as much as the Joseph/Weddle combo. And oh yeah we still get to keep the Coke Machine.

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by oiler-texan diehard on Jun 20, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say go ahead and get nnamdi or at least try cause well he is the perfect fit for us its like the football gods want us to get him lol plus its not my money so go ahead pay him 18 million it won’t make my pockets any slimmer

by miksch57 on Jun 20, 2011 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I am clueless

I am no expert on any of the candidates mentioned. I only know what I read about them. Is there anyone here commenting that knows a lot about them, other than what we read? This is an honest question.

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by Rip Jersey on Jun 20, 2011 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll try and give it a go

Nnamdi – We all have seen it yearly with his match-up with Andre Johnson. Nnamdi’s got the size and speed to man up with anyone in the league. His press and recovery are top of the line and he’s a willing tackler. Eventually, he’ll move to safety with no problems since he played it in college. He’s as near a prototype for a corner as you’d want.

Joseph’s probably the next best, to me. He doesn’t get the respect of a Nnamdi, but he’s capable as a number one corner. (averages about 15 passes defensed and 2 interceptions a season). Plays physical….kind of what I always thought Kareem Jackson could be at his best.Arguably, he’s the most underrated starting cornerback….I don’t think people know how good he is since he doesn’t make the flashy interception.

The rest I know little about. Don’t see Marshall play too often, but I know he’s been the guy in Carolina. Ike’s, in my mind, just a product of that aggressive Steeler front seven. As for Rogers, he was a decent number 2 guy….but over the past few years it seems as if he lost a step and should consider moving to free safety or something. I dunno, he’s not the same as I once remember him.

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by TexansDC on Jun 20, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cap

It is all about the cap. If Scrabble can be had without busting the cap, then Uncle Bob should spend the money. This is nothing like Washington or Oakland or any other spend like crazy whenever someone hot appears.

Get ready for my Homer comment of the week: We need only two things to go way deep into the playoffs: a shutdown corner and some time in Wade’s system. If we get Scrabble, we’ll win the Division, maybe this year. There are two or three shutdown corners in the league and apart from a super QB or maybe a super pass rusher, they are the most valuable asset in the pass happy league right now.

by smokehaus on Jun 20, 2011 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's more likely we go after Cromartie...

He has experience in Phillip’s defense, loves the way he was played in that defense.., and Wade was probably pretty happy with what he had in Cromartie while he was with the Chargers…

Houston would probably be among the top teams he’d be interested in, he’s probably among the top CBs Wade would be interested in bringing in as he already has had success with him before so knows fairly well how he’d fit into the system, and compared to Asomugha he’ll be fairly cheap.

I don’t care much for the 10 kids from 25 different women, but as far as character issues goes not being able to keep it in the pants isn’t the worst in the world… I could put up with a horndog being on the team if it meant our secondary situation got alot better… Asomugha would do the same without the baggage, but also like 10 million dollars a year more expensive… You could probably get Cromartie AND another solid veteran starter on defense for the same money combined as you could for one Asomugha…

by Bryan72076 on Jun 20, 2011 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea. But its more

Then just the kids thing..its more his work ethic n lack of effort..everyone knows cromartie is very skilld but hes going to be terrible in run support n u can kiss the mentor aspect goodbye…that bein said hes great in man so hes def a huge diff maker 4 us there

by Mike Ram on Jun 20, 2011 7:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You know

I did find it interesting that he would chime in on practicing in Houston unprovoked and even brought up knowing Wade’s defense. It’s an interesting angle worth pondering…Cromartie & Sensabaugh would be a sign that Houston may be worried about how fast the front seven could pick up Wade’s system.

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by TexansDC on Jun 20, 2011 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

U think that

Would b a bad thing?..bringin in guys that know the system..maybe ive been listenin 2 kubes 2long but i think we r gonna SOME1 thats been in the system b4 n can help teach other then the coaches

by Mike Ram on Jun 20, 2011 8:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think it's a bad thing

but I also believe good talent can learn any scheme.

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by TexansDC on Jun 20, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

U think that

Would b a bad thing?..bringin in guys that know the system..maybe ive been listenin 2 kubes 2long but i think we r gonna SOME1 thats been in the system b4 n can help teach other then the coaches

by Mike Ram on Jun 20, 2011 8:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

AllenOU'd

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Jun 20, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with Cromartie coming here

…but his off field issues go beyond just having a bunch of kids (that really isn’t an issue). He’s had some other run ins. I don’t have time to look it all up again, but he’s also had some assault charges as well as some failure to pay child support.

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by papabear on Jun 21, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd have problems paying child support if I had that many kids from that many women

I’m sure anyone would

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by The Night Owl on Jun 21, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's making pretty good money

The problem is that he isn’t mature/responsible enough to make sure he meets his obligations. If he didn’t have the financial capabilities I wouldn’t blame him.

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by papabear on Jun 21, 2011 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

right

and taking it a step further if u cant handle ur own responsiblites then how can u mentor someone else..i think they r gonna reair the jets hard knocks..id like to see that 1 area where they talk about cromartie again..u see his work ethic there or lack there of..hes has enormous skill but thats it, doesnt hone it in neway or work to be the best, hes ok with his natural skill making him a top 10 or whatever corner vs him putting in the work to be top 5

by Mike Ram on Jun 21, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what?

If you can get a top 10 corner for your team, are you really going to bellyache that he doesn’t try hard enough to be even better.. therefore making it a waste of time to sign him at all?

I’ve worked with guys who don’t give it their all every minute of the day.., and you know what? I couldn’t give two sheets so long as they’re getting their job done so that I don’t have to do it. He does his job and does it well on the field. I’m not crazy about his “character”, whatever that is, but I think he’s probably about the best fit for this team right now of all the potentially available corners.

by Bryan72076 on Jun 22, 2011 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does that guy have a lot of fans watching him on Sundays?

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by Rip Jersey on Jun 22, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

What does that matter?

You pay for a ticket so you own every player on the team? They’re people too man, they have good days and bad… And when it comes to reality TV, it’s usually the furthest thing from “reality”… They take bits and clips of days and weeks of footage, cut and paste pieces of them together to make it interesting.

I try not to be a tool and believe everything someone else wants me to believe…

by Bryan72076 on Jun 22, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

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by Rip Jersey on Jun 22, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Matt Schaub

Has an assault charge too, but nobody’s calling him a bad character guy…

by Bryan72076 on Jun 22, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

That’s all we’re talking about? What’s up with that? Cromartie is a saint, then. Thanks for clearing that all up for us.

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by Rip Jersey on Jun 22, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just saying

You hear people all the time write people off for one or two headlines they read somewhere as if one or two actions defines a person, if you’re going to be holier than thou you should at least be consistent with it.

That said, i’d rather everyone on the Texans were without fault… but seeing as how there’s not a single person in the world that would qualify to be a Texan then…, i’ll settle for just a really good football player.

by Bryan72076 on Jun 22, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

How's that working out for the Bengals?

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Jun 22, 2011 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

They've been to the playoffs

We haven’t

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jun 23, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

And, they have good character players demanding to leave

ranked last in top sports franchises list

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Jun 23, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Expectations

I think that in order to answer this question we need to ask ourselves: In a year with so much not happening as far as coaching and team training, how much can the defense improve with what we have?

If the answer is not much, then yes go after Nmandi. Give him a blank check and have him fill in what he wants. It also depends on how he feels about the Texans as a contender (we aren’t one) and how much time he wants to wait before he has a realistic opportunity at a Super Bowl?

The only thing I don’t want is a half assed approach. Either we go in all the way no rubber and hope for the best and prepare for the worst, or move on to someone else. There has to be a full press on him and if we aren’t going to give it 100% then the organization should not waste his time or theirs.

I would say be pessimistic considering what the franchise has been and just settle on the fact that this will be our defense for next season (whenever that takes place). If we get him great, if we don’t the texans will have to prove that what they have is enough to finally make the playoffs.

Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jun 20, 2011 7:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Not a contender!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

2009 season = playoffs if 1) we could run a ball in from a yard out or 2) Colts don’t sit their players.
Solution = Draft a big bruiserish back in the draft and luck into Arian Foster’s dominance

2010 season = playoffs if 1) Defense didn’t blow.
Solution = grab Wade, grab a bunch of defensive guys in the draft, and GRAB SCRABBLE.

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by BRBUSAFTexan on Jun 20, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

If=

Not a contender.

Needs more nose tackle.

by JimboTexan on Jun 21, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

So.....

if it isn’t Scrabble then the one they get had better be Joseph. Other than that is a bag of meh to me. Hell no on Rogers. Don’t know enough about Marshall. Taylor is more meh.

I think with Joseph and they retain Allen the secondary will be upgraded. Already saw that the new secondary coach likes what he saw from Allen when he played corner. I think they give him the chance to work just at corner and see what more he can do. He’s already better than K-Jax.

Quin over top with someone with a lot of speed (read: Huff) and I like it.

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Jun 21, 2011 2:42 AM CDT reply actions  

Cromartie may be a better option than Joseph

Especially of you can get him on the cheap & go after Michael Huff as well

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jun 21, 2011 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

but thats only

if we actually use the rest of the money correctly?..joseph vs cromartie is a joseph win head to head…thinking ahead how we think they should use the rest of the money is kinda like BRBUSAFTexan and his IF this and that..i like cromartie for the fact that hes an excellent man cb..but thats it…bad work ethic, terrible against the run, not gonna do a ton to help bring up the 3 new draft picks or kjax..the signing of scrabble brings someone that will take the time to teach the ropes and cut the field in half..im with paying him the 18 mil cuz of all the intangibles hes brings OUTSIDE of the fact that hes the 1/2 cb in the game, but after that we still need to go down the list of best CB in lieu of how much does each on cost..imo

by Mike Ram on Jun 21, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Feels like I've read this story before.

And commented on it….oh well

Well as I’ve said before, I’d rather get 3 good players than sell out for 1 guy and pin our hopes on him. Not saying we shouldn’t offer Nnamdi a contract but getting into a bidding war the Cowpies or Eagles for one guy when we need at least two solid secondary players and perhaps a decent WR doesn’t make sense to me.

I’ve been on the Bengals Jonathan Joseph since I heard he possibly going to be available. Make an offer to Nnamdi but immediately pursue JJ. I think he’s top 15 among CB’s in the league.

Another name that has come to my attention recently is Drayton Florence. He played under Wade his entire tenure in SD and whom I consider a pretty solid CB. I think his past with Wade will put him on the Texans radar. I think he might be the second or third guy on the Texans list in fact.

Also Donte Whitner will be available at Safety. Not sure if he’s a Wade type of player but he did have 140 tackles last year (5th in the league) and number 1 for all SS so he can be counted on to hit and tackle the ball carrier. One of several things the Texans defense struggled to do last year.

 I’d even go after Cromartie (reluctantly). Not high on Carlos Rodgers but I’d go after Ike Taylor.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jun 21, 2011 2:43 AM CDT reply actions  

You have read it

I can give you a preview of the rest of offseason:

1. New CBA. Joseph is no longer available.
2. We make an “offer” to Nnamdi. Nnamdi laughs, becomes gazillionaire elsewhere.
3. We sign Ike Taylor.
4. Mass indignation.
5. Mass justification and/or “He’s not Nnamdi, but he is a living, breathing cornerback not named Kareem Jackson.”
6. Wade Phillips issues a statement about how he likes that Ike Taylor plays cornerback.
7. Rick Smith smiles, cries himself to sleep.
7. Koolaid is sipped.
8. Koolaid is consumed in mass quantities.
9. Ike Taylor practices, does not fall down.
10. Opening day. Ike Taylor is burned by speedy receiver of your choice for a long touchdown.

Needs more nose tackle.

by JimboTexan on Jun 21, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Numbering fail

It’s almost like I haven’t taken a math class since Algebra II, circa 2000. And failed that.

Needs more nose tackle.

by JimboTexan on Jun 21, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

18 million at age 30....

I’m not sure about this one.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Jun 21, 2011 10:02 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

18 mil and NO players or picks

Got to roll the dice at some point, might as well be now

I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself

by AllenOU on Jun 21, 2011 10:13 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

yezir

if we can pay for a. green and get NOTHING from him, y cant we pay top dollar for a guy thats got MIN of 2 years of being a 1/2 cb in the league that will have a huge domino effect on the rest of the 2ndary…

by Mike Ram on Jun 21, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I shuddered thinking about dominoes falling

And Kareem Jackson

My name is Barry - I am from Texas

by Barryfromtexas on Jun 21, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Scarbble has promblems....

Asomugha has a form of color-blindness called Deuteranomaly stating in the June 2009 issue of ESPN The Magazine that "It was determined when I was about 7 years old. It’s never really affected my play on the field — I can easily distinguish between light and dark colors. I only have trouble between similar colors — the light ones. They look the same to me. No problems on the field

by southpaw70 on Jun 21, 2011 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Good thing he doesn't need to read Kube's

Denny’s Menu

My name is Barry - I am from Texas

by Barryfromtexas on Jun 21, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Denny's what is that?

Man i have not eaten there in years.

by southpaw70 on Jun 21, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

If they ever make the ball sky blue

he’s fucked.

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