How Many Wins Will It Take To Win The AFC South In 2011?
The Houston Texans aren't a sure-fire bet to contend for the AFC South title. At least not yet.
Not with the secondary still young and the Glover Quin/FA cornerback endgame still unresolved. Not with DeMeco Ryans and Connor Barwin's availability and skill yet to be witnessed. Wadetussin should inevitably help the defense out, as Steph Stradley pointed out, but the amount of available talent on hand going up would also be a big plus.
But a funny thing has happened over the past few years. The once-mighty AFC South has started to get a touch of grey in some places, and last year's results showed that while the Texans didn't have the best record in the division, they very well may have the best short-term unit in it: their offense.
Peyton Manning's mighty Indianapolis Colts continued to be the class of the division. This time though, they won just 10 games. Had Manning's sorcery known no bounds, the Jaguars could have clinched the division on the road in Week 15, and Jacksonville wound up winning just eight games. Manning will be 35 coming into next season, and he battled neck injuries last season. Reggie Wayne will hit 33 in November, and Dallas Clark has already turned 32. Outside of Jacob Tamme, the rest of the young parts of Indianapolis' offense have had their share of injuries (Austin Collie), foibles (Donald Brown, Pierre Garcon), or both (Anthony Gonzalez). Age is also turning into a problem on defense: Robert Mathis, Gary Brackett, and Dwight Freeney have all gone over 30. While the Colts have developed some good young defensive backs, the Tampa-2 is built on a strong pass rush, and we've yet to see if Jerry Hughes can jump in and start producing.
That isn't to say that the Colts are doomed this year. They have a lot of great (if older) pieces and suffered some pretty bad injuries last season. The case can be made that they are as vulnerable as they've ever been since the Texans have existed though, and Manning's witchcraft will continue to have to carry the rest of the team with him.
The Jaguars are in a very similar situation to the Texans: they also had a good offense and horrendous pass defense last year. They went with Blaine Gabbert in the first round, which wasn't a good-use of leveraging their resources for a win-now push. Maurice Jones-Drew dealt with some injuries of his own last year, and they may lose Mike Sims-Walker to free agency as well, leaving them with a lot of questions in the passing game. They've spent a lot of draft picks rebuilding their defensive line, but with Aaron Kampman going down last year, they didn't get much of a pass rush from their ends at all.
The Titans still have their run game, and you can make a pretty good argument that their offensive line underperformed last year. but it's really hard to believe in a team coming off a 6-10 season with a rookie quarterback as a contender. Especially when said quarterback couldn't even complete 54% of his passes over his college career. Their only scary passing weapon, Kenny Britt, has spent the majority of the offseason being thankful that the NFL Lockout has made his off-field activities an afterthought. They lost highly regarded defensive line coach Jim Washburn to the Eagles, and with Jason Babin and Dave Ball ready to hit free agency, they could lose nearly half of the team's sacks from last season.
Don't get me wrong, the Texans have plenty of problems of their own, but with Wade Phillips coming on, I think that they've gained ground on the rest of the division this offseason already. Even before they try and fix the secondary. If there was ever a free agency period for Houston to be active, I think it would be this one.
Nine or ten wins just might be enough to take this division, and there's no reason the Texans shouldn't be trying to maximize the chances of that happening.
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Guh? What is this?
Don’t get me wrong, the Texans have plenty of problems of their own, but with Wade Phillips coming on, I think that they’ve gained ground on the rest of the division this offseason already.
Is that a faint sign of optimism? From someone on the staff that doesn’t have DC in his screen name? Madness.
I do think the Jaguars and Titans will be 3 and 4. It’s hard not to think that for the reasons you pointed out. Jacksonville could rise up again, especially if they improve their secondary and receiving corps in free agency, but I can’t tell if they’re building for later or winning now.
I know you’re not supposed to doubt Indy. Every year someone says they’re vulnerable they go out and flex their muscle. However, they are hitting 30+…and, like Dallas showed us last season, sometimes age just hits out of nowhere. I won’t doubt Indy as they’ve earned that respect and expectation of winning a lot. That said, they’re not the 12-14 win juggernaut that we once knew which is why I went with 11….showing respect with a hint of optimism.
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In all honesty, I can't predict who will be 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in this division
With the exception of the Titans, who will be 4th.
For all of the reasons Rivers stated, Indy is vulnerable, yet, they have had these kinds of issue before and overcome them, so I expect them to stay competitive. They have a core of players that have been there before.
Yes, the wildcard in all this is the Texans and the Wade-D. Will it be wild and eat opposing offenses or will it be tamed? Everything hinges on that.
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Agreed
the top 3 spots are up for grabs, but the Titans will be in the basement no matter what happens. I think the Colts might be in for a down year which is why I voted that the south can be had with 10 wins.
by Bobbythegreat on Jun 29, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
"faint sign of optimism"
Dude, I’m optimistic as shit about this season. I’m also likely drunk at the moment, but I’m definitely feeling good about things.
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by MDC on Jul 1, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions
The Colts are indeed aging.
But unfortunately the Texans are slowly doing so as well.
Schaub is already 30, which is not much to be worried about, but when the season begins Andre and Kevin Walter will both be 30 too.
Not a pleasant thought.
It will be woeful day when Dre passes his prime
But since hes superhuman and showed just how tough he is last season with that ankle injury, Im not quite concerned yet. As for KDub, although I like him as a player, his type should be “plug and play” for a guy like Kubiak to find. Although I will admit, it does scare me to think that Kubiak could possibly be so arrogant to think that WR1 isnt something worth top value in draft/trade after we lose Dre one dreadful day.
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 29, 2011 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
The Colts have played FAR more games though
Add up all of those post season games and you’re practically talking about another full season or more. That adds up.
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a postseason that usually ends with a loss
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Good article and I also agree this is the season for the Texans to pull ahead
Indy has the oldest roster, and two rookie offensive linemen to train from the draft. Neither of those bode well for protecting Peyton. Unless we are missing some key component in the analysis, and they trade like mad during a short FA period, they are losing the war of attrition.
Jacksonville is in shambles rebuilding mode. Del Rio won’t be employed by mid season if they play like they did last year. There’s no reason to think they will be any better based on who’s returning and who they drafted. My guess is 3-5 at the mid point and breaking news of an interim head coach.
BESFs are in shambles. Tossing Fisher and VY doesn’t make a lot of sense. Bud should have picked a side in that fight and stuck with his man. Then again, that’s why Satan is who he is. This team will take their place at the bowels of the division for years to come, which is unfortunate for Chris Johnson who will zig, zag his way into irrelevance as a result.
Texans have two to three years of peak performance time based on health of their best players, so it really is DO IT NOW time. In three years we’ll have way too many of the stars on the other side of their healthiest age curve and be heading into rebuilding mode.
2011 best guess for the division:
11-5 Texans
9-7 Colts
7-9 Jags
5-11 BESFs
Best guess, or best case scenario
Our first 4 games are pretty rough. Pretty. Rough.
by SpaceCityFan on Jun 29, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
We start out against Peyton
who won’t have the benefit of studying any film on Wade’s new defense. Peyton is so good at preparation, but won’t have that benefit in game one. His two rookie linemen will face our fierce front seven guided at the hands of the best DC in the business and they’ll be coming with high motors and schemes to invoke panic and uncertainty.
Even Peyton’s wizardry will fizzle in the face of chaos, especially with Nnamdi Asomugha sealing off the left side of Manning’s life support zone. The Colts will be tougher in the second meeting, but we should have the advantage of surprise in the first.
At Miami in game two will be interesting indeed. I think this will be a close game.
At New Orleans in game three will be an early test, staying healthy will be critical, and Kubiak’s clock management will determine the outcome.
Game 4 vs Steelers at home will be one of the best games of the season. The house will be packed, and the noise will be off the charts. TheRapist (Big Ben) will meet the Honey Badger (Watts) and the Elephant (Mario) several times, and likely not finish the game.
Game 5 vs Raiders will be the reunion of Scrabble (Nnamdi) and his former team. He’ll get 3 picks, returning one for a TD as the idiots in silver and black are dumb enough to air it out against the best CB in the league trying to make a point that they didn’t need him.
We’ll be 3-2 at this point, heading into Baltimore.
I disagree
Peyton has been around so long he’s played against several of Wade’s former teams, plus he’s pretty much got access to any game film he wants. Considering he can’t really work out while he recovers from neck surgery, and the fact that we’re a division foe AND the first game on their schedule, you can bet your ass he’s already watching every piece of tape he can find on Wade’s scheme. And even Wade admits its not very complicated.
I still think we can beat them but Peyton will be ready mentally. Lucky for us he may still be rusty physically.
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Re: Peyton's neck issues
I thought Ed Reed had some interesting comments on the subject…..
He’s also giving thought to other players who have been injured — and he says that if he were in Peyton Manning’s situation, needing multiple neck surgeries, he would quit football.
Asked specifically whether he’d do the same thing that Manning has done, having neck surgeries in each of the last two offseasons, Reed was emphatic that he wouldn’t, saying "no" five times.
"No, no," Reed said. "I mean, no. No. No, not my neck."
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No he is making a new TV show or Movie or something

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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 29, 2011 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Indy wins at 10-6
We also go 10-6, but wildcard teams are 11-5, so we miss out.
Pitt and Nawlins are just awful matchups for us, and Miami and Oakland are far from gtd wins.
Part of me hopes for 6-10 so we can clean house, but the other part would kill for the opportunity to get destroyed in a playoff game
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by AllenOU on Jun 29, 2011 11:22 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I hear you
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
"hear"
or “hate”?
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 29, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Indy wins at 10-6
We also go 10-6, but wildcard teams are 11-5, so we miss out.
Pitt and Nawlins are just awful matchups for us, and Miami and Oakland are far from gtd wins.
Part of me hopes for 6-10 so we can clean house, but the other part would kill for the opportunity to get destroyed in a playoff game
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by AllenOU on Jun 29, 2011 11:22 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Dang, I said I heard you!
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think I inflated the required wins to 12 for the same reason others dropped it to 10
With chaos in Jacksonville and nashville, I am under the impression that the Colts will potentially fare even better (if not possibly sweep) the titans and Jags, so the resulting Title-bar will be inherently set higher than last year. Then also if I recall, wasn’t our division’s schedule strength also pretty high last year? If so, that could result in an extra non-divisional W too, right? That led me to 12.
I should confess that my wild ass guess made no accounting for this year’s schedule strength or the Colts new linemen, so those might factor in as well as other’s have pointed out.
11, I think the colts go 10-6
and they are the team to beat so yeah 11 wins.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
I haven't bothered to look at our opponents' Schedules...
…so I just guessed that 10 wins gets the division. Not all that logical I know, but how far off will I be?
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 29, 2011 12:29 PM CDT reply actions
Schedule is easy
Everyone has the 6 division games, the NFC South, the AFC North, and then the AFC East/West team that finished in the same division spot as them…
Indy – New England and Kansas City
Jacksonville – NY Jets and San Diego
Houston – Miami and Oakland
Tennessee – Buffalo and Denver
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God there were so many reasons to start Matt Leinart wk 17 vs. the Jags
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 29, 2011 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I picked 11
Seyton Manning has dominated the division for almost a decade now (i think) and I don’t expect this year to be any different. Every year it seems like they are losing more and more pieces and yet they continue to win. As long as Fivehead is in the lineup they will continue to win the division. With that being said, if the Texans truly improve on every facet of their game they will make the wildcard with 10 wins.
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jun 29, 2011 2:13 PM CDT reply actions
I said the Texans would finish 11-5...
So I say 11 wins.
This division race is going to come down to one thing IMO. The defense that most improves from last year.
The AFC South had probably the worst collection of defenses in the NFL.
In overall D the Texans were 30th, the Jags 28th, the Titans 26 and the Colts at 20th. The winner of the division will probably have the best defense.
Despite the Texan ground game last year I’d still nudge the Colts offense ahead of the Texans simply based on their ability to pass it. Then the Jags offense followed by the Titans, whose hole at QB is going to hold the entire team back. So our defense is going to have to be the difference in the 2 Colts game.
If the Texans pass rush is as good as we’re hoping we might actually be able to neutralize Manning. With the Colts running game being non-existent the past few years I expect the Colts to try to establish a ground game this year behind those new O-lineman they drafted.Especially after the recent surgery Manning had. The problem with them (as always) is the lack of defense. If the Texans can force Manning to win the game himself this new defense will (hopefully) keep him in check with improved secondary play and a better pass rush.
The other two teams will be all about stopping the run.
Overall this division seems to have gotten weaker (at least based on last year). 11 wins might not have won it a few years ago but now that seems to be about what the best any of the 4 teams could hope to achieve. I see no one in the division winning more than 12 games this coming season.
As usual with the Texans these past 3 seasons if they win more than 3 division games they are in the playoffs. I have them winning 4 which should put them over the top. Maybe 5 but that’s to optimistic for me right now.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
I agree for the most part
except that the Colts get the nod of offense. I think we have far more weapons with Dre being better than Wayne, the supporting cats being similar except we have Foster who is a serious threat in space. Not to mention we have had to go through a OC change AND adding a running game in one season. Also, we had the leagues leading rusher last year and they had shit for a running game. For us it was all about the defense letting teams back in so I agree with the fact that whoever can improve their defense more will take the division and when you see how we attacked it in the draft and how they had needs to fill on offense, we already have the advantage,
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jun 29, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
There are two sides to every coin
I think that we have the opportunity to be the better team this year. Here is the thing as long as Pey Pey is under center the colts will have a good to great offense. The difference maker like you said is Foster running the ball. But unless the D really steps up this year you can have the a top 3 offense every year not make the play offs. Think of us as the Colts and Saints pre-glory years. They had high flying offense and no defense. What made them great teams was mid level d(colts case) and one great year of D(saints case). Unless we go out and bring in some FAs on the defense side of the ball it does not matter. I would like Joesph if he is a FA and to make a run at Weddle. I picked 11 wins also you hope our Texans get those 11.For the major reason I want the chance of possibly playing at home for the first week of the Play Offs.
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by Barryfromtexas on Jun 29, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Only reason I give the Colts the small edge...
Is how we started games last year. I can’t say “the defense was so bad they gave opposing offenses to many long drives and to many early points”.
An offense as good as ours struggling to score 7/10 points in the first half yet scoring 17/20 in the second half is to inconsistent for me. It’s just not going to cut it even with an improved defense. We need to start games like we finish them instead of playing 30 minutes of offense.
Yeah I’d agree that we have more over all talent on offense compared to the Colts (although I think Collie is a better slot WR than Jacoby) but they are much more consistent than the Texans right now.We get our act together and play 60 minutes of offense we should score 27/30 a game this year.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Awesome point
Our offense either slept walked through the first half and ignited for a crazy come back, or started out strong and failed to deliver the killing blow. “Play 60” just wasn’t their theme. I sure hope the hell they come out more aggressive this year and finish games.

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