James Harrison Allegedly Says Brian Cushing "Juiced Out Of His Mind"
by Tim on Jul 13, 2011 2:38 PM CDT
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PrintI say "allegedly" because I haven't actually read the Men's Journal article in which James Harrison waxed poetic on Brian Cushing, Roger Goodell, Ben Roethlisberger, and any number of other topics (though ESPN is reporting that Harrison was quoted as describing Cushing as "juiced out of his mind"). Men's Journal has part of the article available on its website, but they don't disclose the quote about Cushing in that excerpt.
Predictably, Harrison has supposedly claimed that the writer "twisted many of his comments." Riiiiiiiight.
Being that this is a Texans blog, this qualifies as news. That said, I don't exactly find myself outraged at what Harrison said (though it was undeniably stupidly incendiary on Harrison's part). Cushing was suspended for the first four games of the 2010 season for violating the NFL's policy on performance-enhancing drugs, appealed that ruling, lost, had Bob McNair meet with the commissioner to explain the concept of "overtrained athlete syndrome" in the hope of getting the suspension reduced, and had the suspension affirmed yet again. It's not like Harrison said what he said about Cushing without some semblance of evidence to justify his position. That doesn't make what Harrison said right, of course, but I'm not about to get righteously indignant like I might if the target was someone who hadn't served a suspension for violating the league's drug policy.
Does anyone want to jump to Cushing's defense? Do you have any other thoughts on James Harrison's interview? If so, let the comments be your arena.
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I liked Cushing's Response
“I’ll pray for him.”
That is about all you can say when you think someone is so totally f*cked up.
My name is Barry - I am from Texas
One of the best responses to these offseason 'word wars' yet.
James Harrison has gone off the deep end.
by brightshinies on Jul 13, 2011 2:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep, James Harrison will say anything
His teammates don’t even care anymore because he says stuff all the time. Whatever he’s thinking, he says it.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
allegedly
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Jul 14, 2011 1:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Twisted his comments?!
I’m curious as to what context the following quotes would be acceptable?
On Goodell:
Dobbs If that man was on fire and I had to piss to put him out, I wouldn’t do it. I hate him and will never respect him.
On Roethlisberger
Hey, at least throw a pick on their side of the field instead of asking the D to bail you out again. Or hand the ball off and stop trying to act like Peyton Manning. You ain’t that and you know it, man; you just get paid like he does
That’s some serious damn twisting!!
It one thing to bag another player
another to have a go at the Commish,
But to throw your own QB under the bus? not cool
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by distant_texans_fan on Jul 14, 2011 2:33 AM CDT up reply actions
He might need legal counsel
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Jul 14, 2011 1:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If any QB deserved it though...
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by UprootedTexan on Jul 14, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
/True,
I’m not saying he is wrong. But you just don’t say that to your own guy.
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by distant_texans_fan on Jul 14, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Well maybe to him
but not about him, and certainly not in public
I Spent Cushing's Entire Rookie Season
Worrying that he had a tumor
by somebodysfather on Jul 13, 2011 2:56 PM CDT reply actions
Maybe we should test Harrison
for ROIDS, because I’ve never seen someone with so much RAGE
"You're fucking out!"
Maybe Harrison should grow out some Afro-puffs
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Would you say
that Harrison rocks rough and stuff?
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I have no idea
…but I would find him more entertaining if had that hairstyle
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
I think James Harrison wears women's clothing in his spare time.
All the macho posturing, the shooting off of his mouth, the cheap hits; it all points to him dancing to showtunes wearing suspendies and a bra. He wishes he was a girlie, just like his dear papa.
As for the interview itself…I like what he said about Roethlisweasel.
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by UprootedTexan on Jul 13, 2011 3:18 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Python rec
"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher
James Harrison is a moron
he acts like he isn’t a dirty player when everyone in the league knows he is. Is the league going overboard with their new hit guidelines? Maybe. Is James Harrison the worst man imaginable to be the spokesman against it? Yes.
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
by nolander on Jul 13, 2011 3:19 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll jump to Cushing's defense here
Harrison is just an idiot with a mouth. Its not like he said they went in on a bulk order of ’roids together.
Yes, he does fewer reps now
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by Rip Jersey on Jul 13, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
The Steelers need a muzzle for Harrison.
This is the same guy that bitched and moaned and threatened retirement last season due to the NFL’s renewed focus on eliminating devastating hits. So now he shows that not only is he a petulant child with an entitlement complex, he’s an idiot.
I agree with Vega above; I’m curious about what context he intended his comments to be taken in.
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He does seem to have an entitlement complex.
I think one of the reasons the Commish is so hard on players who do not operate within the NFL’s personal conduct policy is to keep players from becoming idiots like Harrison.
I hope they dissect Harrison's brain for examination
…and don’t wait for him to actually die first.
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his nutsack until then.
Good response from Cush. Stay high road.
by MeMongo on Jul 13, 2011 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Awesome line here.
May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his nutsack.
Mind if I borrow this for my next Hater’s Prayer?
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by UprootedTexan on Jul 13, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
You know I could've sworn...
Wasn’t Cashing suspended because he tested positive for a masking agent for PEDs, not PEDs themselves? Or is that just me??
by franklyidontcare on Jul 13, 2011 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
He tested positive for pregnancy (not really but you get the idea), so technically, yeah, you're right.
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by UprootedTexan on Jul 13, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Not even for a level that would have landed him a suspension the previous year, too.
His levels were probably well within the magin of error for for the inexact medical science they employ.
I still don't understand the target at Cushing.
Not like he was considered a big name top 5 LB in the entire league. And not like he’s the only guy who got busted using a banned substance,
But considering this rant by Harrison was all over the place who knows. he also claimed that the league showed rasicm by fining him more for “touching” Drew Brees than for the body slam he gave Vince Young.
He made some valid points in what I saw but he was way out of line on a lot of what he said.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Cushing is considered a hot button and the Men's Health people know that, so they probably asked the question
….knowing that James Harrison has a provocative opinion on nearly every subject. You know, on these kind of interviews, they sit him in a room and massage his ego to make him feel comfortable and then they just barrage him with question after question piling up the evidence and then they cherry-pick the good ones that will get a rise out of somebody. Goodell, Brees, Polamalu, Manning, Cushing are all good targets. There’s probably a few that didn’t make it to print, but I have a feeling they have enough for a follow-up edition sometime in the future. Yes, they will probably announce sometime in the next 6 months that they have a part 2 interview with James Harrison.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I agree with this, except to point out it was Men's Journal not Men's Health
I don’t read Men’s Journal, so I have no idea what kind of publication it is. But I’d be a little surprised if Men’s Health ran this kind of tabloid stuff.
We can always put Mitchell in
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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 13, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Pot, meet kettle.
There are several obvious cases of steroid use in the NFL outside of Brian Cushing. Heading that list is James Harrison, along with “suddenly good” Jason Babin, Cushing’s former needle-buddy Clay Matthews, and Jared Allen.
Welcome to Houston, J.J. Watt, Brooks Reed, Brandon Harris, Rashad Carmichael, Shiloh Keo, T.J. Yates, Derek Newton, and Cheta Ozougwu!
Um
I’d go further and say that some number well north of 75% of players use steroids or (more accurately HGH).
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by MDC on Jul 14, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
^^^ That.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 14, 2011 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Hell, I'll go one step further than that
If it weren’t for PEDs I dare to say the NFL wouldn’t be near as exciting as it is today…..stronger, faster, more athletic.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Hell my MOM takes Steroids
I see the point in not allowing them in the NFL, but people act like like players are bringing their own extra cards to a poker tourney.
But for full disclosure, is the suspicion was that a BESF was using PEDs I would likely support life in prison as being fair.
Yup.
I am in favor of PEDs. If we’re paying for performance, enhance that shit as much as you can!
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Damn right!
Pansy-ass ligaments with their funny spelling and their sissiness.
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by UprootedTexan on Jul 16, 2011 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions
That's how they do, you know.
Driving around, listening to raps, and shooting all the jobs.
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You're talking about
the players’ ligaments, right?
Then, yeah.
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Didn't Cush test positive for hCG
Which is a naturally occurring substance. So how much would you have to take to mask steroid use? And why is that not the legal limit?
Also on Harrison, he’s irrational, for the most part, and deffinently juiced up on roids himself.
And how come if a white guy is doing good he “HAS” to be on roids. Might I remind Kevin Williams and Julious Peppers tested positive.
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by CCBach on Jul 14, 2011 7:48 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
And Rodney Harrison
and Shawne Merriman
and Calvin Pace…
(not to mention Deuce McAllister, Pat Williams, Kevin Williams, Will Smith, and Charles Grant testing positive for a masking agent)
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Hcg is naturally occuring
Normally, in pregnant women. It is not a masking agent. It is used to jump start the bodies natural testosterone production after steroid use.
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by papabear on Jul 14, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
From what I’ve read, the actual HGH used will have the masking agents designed into it. The HCG is used to restart testosterone production like you said.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
HGH is undetectable it doesn't need masking agents
At least it used to be. I think there is a blood test now (no blood test in NFL), but I’m not sure that everyone is confident in the blood test yet. They need to test the test.
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I thought...
they could check for abnormally high levels of hGH. Am I thinking of something different? Testosterone, perhaps?
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Then how did he test positive for HCG
if the NFL doesn’t use the blood test that works?
Honestly I’m even more confused now.
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1st Round: J.J. Watt (NT)
2nd Round: Ras-I Dowling/Brandon Harris (CB)
3rd Round: Mark Herzlich (ILB)
4th Round: Shiloh Keo (S)
5th Round: Chris Carter (OLB)
6th Round: Alex Henery (P/K)
7th Round: Stephen Burton (WR)
Would anybody here be the least bit surprised
If James Harrison failed a drug test? How big is that guy? Like 6’2", 270? Does anyone think it’s normal for a guy that big to run so fast and be so quick?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Jul 14, 2011 3:45 PM CDT reply actions
I dunno, man
Check out his guns; he’s gotta be doing “something”
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by BRBUSAFTexan on Jul 14, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone think it’s normal for a guy that big to run so fast and be so quick?
Shawne Merriman thinks it’s normal.
(Also, no, I wouldn’t be surprised. I wouldn’t be surprised if any NFL player, save for Max Hall, tested positive.)
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What I want to know
is how did Brian Cushing become so relevant in the NFL that James Harrison would be compelled to make a remark about him? Maybe there is some personal beef I’m not aware of.
Cushing had a great rookie year and a horrible 2nd year… not sure how he became that popular to the point that Harrison would mention him in this article.
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