Battle Red Bag, Vol. 9: Let Slip The Bags Of War
No need to mess around with some silly opening vignette today. On to the bag!
This week, we ponder time-travel problems, advice for new college students, Madden rankings, parenting, murdering a stranger versus murder a friend, Amobi Okoye, free agency in the secondary, regional BBQ variations, my hatred for the Chiefs, sexy actresses, and where the line is on edible versus inedible in nature.
grungedave:
In the midst of my nightly efforts to try to take over the world, I had a random thought:
If I ever did stumble upon a time machine... how long could I last in the past before I started f--king up the future? I mean, there's no way I could pass up stuff like "invest in Microsoft at a penny per share" or "bet on the Oilers to blow a 32-point 2nd half lead" [might as well profit from my pain, right?].
I say I'd last about a week before my sense of ethical responsibility to the future would be nonexistent.
On the bright side, maybe my interference with future events keeps the Indians from putting Jose Mesa on the mound for that Game 7 in 1997?
And yes, I would totally use my knowledge of the future as a pick-up line on chicks. I wouldn't even need a million dollars at that point. I mean, I would have a million dollars, I just wouldn't need it for that.
Well, if we're defining "f--king up the future" as "doing things that benefit me and are generally awesome," I salute your one-week estimate, because it's about 167 hours longer than I could hold out. I mean, if I stumbled upon a time machine --- which, based on observable evidence, would almost certainly look like a phone booth1 --- the only reason to use it would be to go back and do something awesome. And pretty much every awesome thing that you could do would impact the future somehow, right? I mean, I guess you could go watch Skytanic the Hindenburg crash without changing anything, but time traveling for the sake of passive observation would lose its appeal in about 12 minutes.
Time travel, of course, opens us up to any number of paradoxes, from John Connor sending his own dad back to sire him, to Doc Brown creating an infinity loop by bringing Marty McFly to the future to prevent Marty Jr. from committing the crime that was the impetus for Doc to go get Marty in the first place.2 One could even argue that the very act of going back in time immediately changes the future from whence you came. (The one exception to this would seem to be going back to a time before humans existed. Which is why Chuck Klosterman thinks that the only reason to invent time travel is so you could eat a dinosaur.)
But, ignoring all of that stuff, if we're talking time travel as portrayed in most movies, where paradoxes aren't much of a concern (provided you don't kill one of your ancestors), I think using your knowledge of the future to bag chicks would be awesome. I suggest that your first stop be the California Institute of the Arts, circa fall 2001. Betting on sports outcomes --- while cliched, I guess --- would be a must. Gimme $10,000 on Appalachian State! /drinks heavily
I hadn't even considered the angle of buying stocks while they are wicked cheap. Just as fun and profitable would be to go back to the early 90s and buy up the stock of a bunch of the companies that ceased to exist when the tech bubble burst. Then shoot just far enough into the future to dump all of the stock at its highest price. Then laugh at the people who didn't know. Because what good is having billions of dollars if you can't laugh at those who don't?
As for Jose Mesa, if I ever stumble upon a time machine, both he and Moises Alou die. Straight up.
1 I know that the Matrix wasn't technically time travel. Apparently Keanu Reeves just likes playing roles that require him to travel in a phone booth.
2 Speaking of the Back To The Future franchise, even if Biff Tannen became a total yes-man to George McFly after George punched him, which is about the only way you could explain Biff's station in the new 1985 as a car-washing monkey, he was still the guy who tried to rape Lorraine. I don't care how well he could wax your car; that seems like the kind of past transgression that would make it awkward to be around the guy. "Hey, remember that time you tried to rape me?" "Yeah. Umm." "Yeah."
CCBach:
As I head off to college in the next two weeks, I was wondering if the all mighty MDC had any advice. Things you wouldn't think to bring but should?
Now I also have a question for Madden 12. They have realsed the ratings for the top 10 rookies in the draft. JJ Watt came up with an 80. What do you expect the rest of the Texans draft class to have?
And lastly for the Texans. We have a second round pick from last year that hasn't seen any playing time due to an injury. What are the odds that he may actually be featured as the second back in our system?
Reading your first question, I realized that my freshman year of college was fifteen years ago. Good god, do I feel old. Not bfd-level old, mind you, but old.
Advice, you say? The three best pieces of wisdom I can give are as follows:
(1) Don't get yourself a girlfriend any time soon. (Related: if you have a current girlfriend from high school, dump her. Seriously.) The amount of available and willing ladies, especially during the first few months of school when people just start getting to know one another and all tend to hang out in large groups, will make having a girlfriend impractical at best and maddening at worst. Just skip it.
(2) Assuming you have a roommate, try to arrive at your dorm before he does on move-in day so that you have your pick of which bed you want. Seems minor, I know, but there are all sorts of little factors that can make one bed vastly superior to the other --- is one up against a wall that has pipes running through it, is the room laid out so that sunrise or sunset could make one bed preferable, etc.?
(3) Be active, but don't sign up for a bunch of stupid stuff. This might seem contradictory, but it's not. By "be active," I mean, if your friends are going out, go out with them. Play intramurals. If there's a group or whatever that really interests you, go for it. But DON'T go signing up for every student organization. 95% of those suck.
As for the rest of the Texans' rookies on Madden, someone told me the other day that Brandon Harris got a 70 and Brooks Reed got a 69. I figure Roc Carmichael will be around 58, Shiloh Keo around 60, TJ Yates in the mid-50s, Derek Newton in the 59/60 range, and Cheta Ozuogwu around 52.
Finally, I think that Ben Kerns Tate is going to supplant Derrick Ward at some point during the year. I base this entirely on the fact that Ward is either the fastest slow guy or the slowest fast guy I've ever seen, and his YPC last year will almost certainly regress back toward the 4.0 neighborhood.
Trey:
Pretty simple question here: Who would you consider to be the sexiest female movie star of all time?
Also, who was your first TV/movie crush?
I would totally write out more, but I have the mother of all hangovers right now, and just getting through those two questions took me 5 minutes.
Sexiest of all time? That feels a lot like trying to compare NFL players from the 60s to players today, where modern medicine and science have made everyone bigger, stronger, faster. I mean, someone like Sophie Marceau is muy caliente, but I don't know how you compare her with Marilyn Monroe or Jayne Mansfield. Different eras, different games, you know?
All that said, let's give it a shot. I'm trying to differentiate between "hot" and "sexy," though I admit that it's a pretty tenuous distinction. Still, here are my Top 5, in descending order:
5. Halle Berry. At her sexiest in Swordfish (though cosplay enthusiast might gravitate toward her role as Catwoman).
4. Audrey Hepburn. At her sexiest in Breakfast At Tiffany's.
3. Charlize Theron. At her sexiest in 2 Days In The Valley.
2. Claudia Cardinale. At her sexiest in The Professionals.
1. Angelina Jolie. At her sexiest in Mr. & Mrs. Smith.
There are about 20 women who could probably go somewhere on this list, so your methods may vary.
Now, my first tv/movie crush? Alyssa Milano. Between her role on "Who's The Boss?" and her part in Commando, I was fairly sure that I was in love with her and that we would be wed.
Paul:
The raging debate amongst my college friends, who hailed from all corners of the Southern US, was over regional BBQ. The contenders were: Virginia (tomato-based), North Carolina (vinegar-based), South Carolina/Georgia (mustard-based), Memphis (dry rub), St. Louis, Kansas City, and Texas brisket. We will assume, since this is after all a Texans blog, that brisket would win hands down. Excluding brisket, rank order the other six.
Ah...a debate I've had many, many, MANY times over the years. I grew up in Southwest MO, but the BBQ my dad made was decidedly a Texas/Memphis hybrid of brisket and dry-rubbed ribs. I lived in KC for 6 or 7 years, then St. Louis, and now the mid-South. I've also made BBQ pilgrimages to all sorts of places (most of which were crap). Point being, I've got a good frame of reference here. So the first point I'll make is that there is no such thing as St. Louis style or a regional flavor that you would associate with St. Louis. I have no idea how they managed to get lumped in with real BBQ regions, but good Q in St. Louis is as hard to find as a Cardinals fan who isn't an insufferable turd. Hell, Chicago has more of a regional flavor than does St. Louis.
Now, you touched on it slightly, but I think it's just as important to factor in what the standard meats are in these areas along with the bases for the various sauces. For example, in Eastern North Carolina and much of South Carolina, you're getting primarily pulled or chopped pork from an entire hog. The meat has a less smoky taste due to how little of the finished product is actually exposed to smoke. In Western North Carolina, around Lexington, you see pulled pork from butts/shoulders as well as a sweet, ketchup-based sauce. Similarly, in western South Carolina, the sauce is peppery and tomatoey, while Central South Carolina has the mustard-based sauce you mentioned. (There's also a pocket of South Carolina that uses a sort of watered-down version of the North Carolina vinegar and pepper sauce.) In Memphis, it's primarily ribs, with sliced pork shoulder and (occasionally) pulled pork. If you find a place that uses sauce, it will either be a style similar to the glaze recipe I gave last week (brown sugar, vinegar, mustard, spices) or it will be a spicy and slightly sweet tomato sauce. KC is wet ribs, brisket, and sliced pork, and the sauces are cloyingly sweet a lot of the time. Oh, and for a real odd twist, Kentucky BBQ has mutton as the most common meat. Virginia is a lot like Western North Carolina, though not as sweet, and they do a whole lot of ham.
Ranking them, and leaving aside Texas-style brisket, I would say (1) Memphis, (2) Central South Carolina/Georgia, (3) Kansas City, (4) Eastern North Carolina, (5) Western South Carolina, (6) Eastern South Carolina, (7) Virginia, (8) Kentucky, (9) St. Louis (assuming you can find something that qualifies as a regional flavor).
Vega:
I have been asking this around to various friends and coworkers and find that my line crosses far more species than the average person. Where do you draw the line as far as what animals are acceptable to eat? I have consumed my share of unusual critters such as kangaroo (delicious), worm (less delicious, but at least they were deep fried), jelly fish (decidedly less delicious), guinea pig (actually pretty damn good) and alpaca (very similar to kangaroo). I would totally eat horse, and probably even dog. Generally, I tend to draw the line on bugs and critters primarily because larger animals can be dressed and cleaned, but with the smaller ones, you're getting everything. So again, where's your line?
On the list of weird foods, I've had raw quail eggs (very good), emu (meh), snapping turtle (delicious), baby octopus (ugh), ants (chocolate covered), and opossum (like greasy, dark-meat chicken). I would definitely eat horse. I think the only mammal I wouldn't eat would be dog, and that's only because I like dogs far more than I like people.
What I really want to eat is an endangered species, preferably the last member of that species. I can think of few things that would be more delicious than perfectly BBQed Giant Panda. I realize that this is just my own psychosis, but whatever.
Barring some survival situation, in which all bets are off, I think I draw my line at insects larger than an ant. The idea of crunching into a large exoskeleton is pretty nasty.
Tim:
1. I'm always amazed at how my dislike of teams is influenced by their fan base (or at least the fans from that base with which I've interacted). For example, a hefty portion of my zealous disgust for the Cowboys is generated by my interactions with, and subsequent fervent distaste for, many of their alleged fans. Would you care to comment on that phenomenon, including specific examples that apply to your warped fandom?
2. I believe that every parent's goal is to give his/her child a better life than the one he/she had. For an incredibly lucky sap such as myself, I fear that is the impossible dream. Your thoughts on the matter?
You might ask if this is this a subtle way of me probing your relationship with your father and/or mother. Maybe it is, and MAYBE IT IS.
1. Yeah, I am definitely subject to that phenomenon. For example, it wasn't until I moved to Kansas City and had to deal with Chiefs fans on a regular basis that I developed an all-encompassing hatred for that team. These are people who buy a red car and then HAND PAINT, with minimal artistic skill, a Chiefs logo on the door. They spend all of 2000 blaming the team's shortcomings on Elvis Grbac --- who was in the process of throwing for 4,100 yards, 28 TDs, and 14 INTs --- rather than on the pass defense, who were at or near the bottom third in most important categories. (Why, you ask? Because they were still bitter that the team kept Grbac and let Rich Gannon go after 1998. Nevermind that Grbac threw for 7,500 yards, 50 TDs, and 29 INTs in his two years as KC's full-time starter. In 2000, other than Tony Gonzalez, Grbac's two receiving targets of note were Derrick Alexander and Sylvester Morris. I love DA, but he should never have been a WR1, and I'm pretty sure you can find SlyMo bagging groceries at a Hy-Vee in Lee's Summit, MO, these days.)
2. That is (or should be) every parent's goal, I agree. I would also agree that you are incredibly lucky, in that you wound up with two awesome parents and even a sibling that you seem pretty fond of. I would not go so far as to say my parents were awesome, but they were incredibly supportive of anything I wanted to do. To this day, I have to be reminded by other people (usually my wife, sometimes employers or a bartender) to know my limits. It rarely ever crosses my mind that I wouldn't be able to do something, and I credit my parents for this. They never blew smoke up my ass and told me that I could be a professional football player, but in absolutely everything academic or anything that interested me, they always made me think, "When it came to stuff like that ... I could always just play," to steal a line from Good Will Hunting.
I try to take that approach with both of my kids, but in a more focused manner than my parents did with me. While I was ADD-bouncing from one activity to another, I encourage both kids to stick with things that they enjoy. Right now, my son is at a Chinese-language camp in northern Minnesota. I'm pretty sure no one else in our entire neighborhood speaks Chinese, but he'd been talking about wanting to learn it for the last year, so we encouraged that. My daughter loves to dance and loves baseball. When she's a little older, I'll probably get her into both. (The latter because I want to see a lefthanded girl shortstop out-playing the boys.)
I kind of started rambling there. My bad. So, yeah, I want my kids to have a better life than I did, and I definitely want to avoid some of the mistakes my parents made, but I would say that I was a pretty lucky s.o.b. myself. Still, I think I can do it. As for you? Well, to steal another line, "God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're f--ked."
NewsToTom:
http://volokh.com/2011/07/19/
new-ordinances-from-gould- arkansas/ Seriously, what the hell? Seriously!
Defend your not moving to a different state.
For those of you too lazy to click on the link, the city council of Gould, AR, was catching flak from the "Gould Citizens Advisory Council." The city's solution? Pass an ordinance that (a) banned the Council from doing business in Gould and (b) mandated that "no new organizations" could be formed in Gould without city council approval.
When Gould's city attorney told the council that this ordinance was unconstitutional, they responded by firing the city attorney. The city council continues to defend the ordinance, not by disputing that it is illegal, but by arguing that there needs to be "oversight" or "control" when it comes to deciding who can form a group that might discuss the city. Just think about that for a second.
But Tom asked me to defend not moving from this State. Well, I've stated many, many times that I would like to move. I am no fan of Arkansas. That said, I have a pretty sweet set-up here, so it would take much more than a handful of nitwits down in the Delta doing something stupid before I felt like I had to move.
~Jay:
Given your training in legal procedure, evidence, etc., do you think you could get away with murder? How would you do it, and who would be your target? Seems like offing a stranger would be easy, but icing somebody you know adds a high degree of difficulty. Also, I assume since you're answering this question from me in a public forum, you could never murder me without getting picked up by Johnny Law within 24 hours. So that's one less person.
According to this report, identifying a motive for the killing greatly improves the odds that police will solve the crime. That makes sense; it's going to be a lot easier to narrow the list of suspects if you have a sense of why the person was killed. So, yeah, I would say that killing a stranger, especially if it was just to watch him die, would be far easier than killing someone you know.
Who would be my target? I'd go the Navin R. Johnson route and just flip open the phone book to a random page. I'm not sure whether I'd go with the hard to mess up "12-gauge from close range" or something less obvious, but the key would be not doing anything where, in a struggle, the victim might scratch you and wind up with your DNA under their fingernails. Maybe curare darts? That'd be cool.
If I was targeting someone I knew? I think the key would be to create a situation where you were hanging out with the person, but no one outside of you two knew that you were hanging out. So, you know, you tell the significant other that you are going to the store, but you stop by the friend's house on the way. You'd have to park a couple streets over, so no one saw your car out front. Pour a little poison in his beer when he's not looking, then leave out the back. Obviously, you'd have to take some steps in the days leading up to it to make it truly clean. Make a point of visiting the same friend with other people a few days before so that any fingerprints could be explained. Stuff like that.
[Author's note: The staff of BRB do not condone the senseless killing of anyone, be they a friend or just someone who sounds like a typical bastard.]
DiehardChris:
1. How can Amobi Okoye make it in the 3-4? All speculation is that he will play end, but I see you are projecting him at the nose. Gut feeling? Based on anything you think others are missing?
2. Assuming the Texans miss out on Nnamdi & Joseph, who is at the top of your FA list specifically at CB?
1. Well, in a traditional 3-4, he'd almost certainly have to play a DE role. The reason I think he can work at the nose in Wade's system is that Wade's NTs are not responsible for eating up two blockers. They play a one-gap system. Last year, when Amobi was put in a one-gap/penetrate-first role at UT, he played fairly well. I see no reason it couldn't work here. Besides, it's almost a matter of semantics to a large degree, as Wade's lines, when he doesn't have a massive NT, tend to be three guys who are all roughly the same size. Case in point: last year, Igor Olshansky (DE) weighed more than Jay Ratliff (NT).
2. If we miss on those two guys, I'd like to see us sign a couple solid veterans over, say, spending too much on Antonio Cromartie. (I don't want Ike Taylor at all.) The only one of the higher-profile names I'd be interested in would be Brent Grimes. If that didn't work out, I'd take any two of the following: Chris Houston, Eric Wright, Brandon Carr, and Stanford Routt, with Houston and Wright being my faves of the four.
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Ben kerns
Nice!!!!!
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter
by AllenOU on Jul 22, 2011 3:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Alyssa Milano
Absolutely. She’s my age and I’ve had a crush on that chick as far back as I can remember. And when she got naked in Embrace of the Vampire and Poison Ivy II…….fap heaven!
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
i think shes the answer for everyone of that generation. Me included
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by papabear on Jul 23, 2011 6:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Have both of those movies
Very good, but Jaime Pressley in Poison Ivy 3, even better
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jul 23, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Two comments
1. Best answer to “What’s a girlfriend?” I ever heard : “It’s this thing that makes sandwiches.”
2. I simply can not buy into the time travel thing. I know the idea is to transport just yourself back in time, but to me going back in time doesn’t mean just here on Earth. You’d have to basically reverse time through-out the entire universe.
Interesting point on #2.
I mean, in theory, going back in time here would be going back in time everywhere, but then you have to account for time being relative (think near event horizons), so you wouldn’t be going back as far vis-a-vis those spots…
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I've heard that one
But to me, I believe you could use the event horizon theory or speed of light theory to slow time down enough to basically be able to travel in time forward, but I don’t believe it’s possible to actually reverse the process. Especially since time itself is simply mankind’s measurement of events that have transpired, are transpiring, and have yet to transpire as it were. I.E., the event horizon of a black hole might slow down the nucleic process enough to where while unnoticalbe to you, to outside world time would speed continue as normal. At least, that’s my theory anyway.
"What I really want to eat is an endangered species, preferably the last member of that species"
Isn’t that what we all want? Also I see you DO condone non-senseless killing so good for you for taking a stand on these important issues!
Oh, sure.
Killing if there’s a point to it is fine with me. Even if that point is “to prove I can get away with it.”
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Time travel
Why is it always thought that you must go BACK to become rich in the present? Could you not, more easily, go forward to rip off someone’s super sweet hoverboard idea, and then bring it back to the present to make millions off the futuristic technology?
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
more work that way
placing a bet on a sporting event or buying stocks takes little effort compared to promoting and getting rich off of an invention. Also, with technological advancements, there’s no guarantee that people in our time would even be able to reproduce or mass produce them. Picture taking an iPhone back to the 80’s for example. Microprocessor technology wasn’t up to producing them then and even if you could there would be no cell towers to use it on. Just an example, but most futuristic technology would have that limitation
I'm just thinking
You’re negating the risk of messing up the present by stealing the oxygen that might’ve kept a past world leader alive, butterfly effect stuff. Agree that it would be more work, but there’s no telling how many things you might change by doing what you’ve done. I guess I’m more of a “wade on the side of caution” type in the debate. I can come back with the year 3000 version of the smartphone, take it to a tech badass, and say “you can’t ask me how I got this, but figure out how it works, and I’ll split the pie with you.”
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
if it's advanced enough though...
then no one alive will be able to figure out how it works, and it won’t be usable without other technologies that grew up around it. much like you can’t mass produce circuit boards without a multi-million dollar machine, etc. If the technology is less advanced, say just ahead of what we have now, that would be perfect, and would only require a quick jaunt to, say 2015 or so. That’d be perfect and removes the risk of me accidentally fucking my grandmother or causing Justin Bieber never to be born or something. I’m with you, let’s do it. You figure out the time machine part and I’ll split the pie with you.
by JBal on Jul 22, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
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The team that has never made the playoffs in franchise history...is the one most likely to ever make the playoffs again. WELCOME TO HOUSTON!
"Tell them I said something clever and insightful" - Kevin Bacon
I live and work along a 2-mile stretch of road, and I slept on the plane to get here. Is this Iraq...or Nevada?
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 23, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a good call.
You wouldn’t even have to go that far. Shit, go 10 years in the future, grab up all the new technology, and come back. I like where your head’s at on this.
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you could still do the sports angle though
Just write down a bunch of results and bring them back. Biff got his casino by stealing Marty’s sports almanac.
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by papabear on Jul 23, 2011 6:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Also true.
Really, the more I think about it, going a couple years into the future and then coming back would be a much simpler and less-likely-to-blink-you-from-existence way to go.
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Milano
Was a fantastic call, sir.
Mine would probably be Jeanie (Barbara Eden) from I Dream of Jeanie.
Naughty NAUGHTY things…
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
OMGWTFBBQPanda? #SaveJordann
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by 808BostonSportsFan on Jul 22, 2011 4:32 PM CDT reply actions
Was almost a great read
Except for the softball questions that DiehardChris threw you at the end.
C’mon Chris, you can be more creative than something that’s already been discussed to death!
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
In Chris's defense
he did tell me that more movie questions were coming next week. He was just busy this week. Plus I’ll take any chance to preach the potential of Amobi, if only because I know that Tim’s tastes his own bile every time I do.
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"...Tim's tastes his own bile..."
Aren’t you the guy who despises poor apostrophe use?
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Jul 22, 2011 11:33 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
DAMN IT.
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by MDC on Jul 23, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm becoming convinced...
That the entire weekly mailbag is just a ploy to espouse pro-Okoye sentiment. In fact, Amobi himself might even be behind the propaganda via bribery. It’s all highly suspect.
by Nashmeister on Jul 23, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was knee deep today
Working at a client’s office and the shit was flying in all directions. I wanted to participate, despite the softball questions.
Fine – how about this one, Matt, would you rather 1. Clip your fingernails or 2. Push Hydroshock in front of a bus?
Chris - www.HoustonDiehards.com
by HoustonDiehards on Jul 22, 2011 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't do both?
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Hydrocock* lmfao!
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by AllenOU on Jul 23, 2011 12:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Solid job as always
Just of note though, the Raiders gave Stanford Routt a ridiculous contract before the lockout. And then Al Davis objected to the new deal because he disagreed with the finances. I heard a great stat today that in the last ten years the Raiders have spent the 2nd highest amount of money in all of American sports behind the Yankees.
On another note, now that it is clearer that there will in fact be a cap that feels like about 126, do you still feel Amobi isn’t going to be a cap casualty?
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You are correct.
I totally forgot about that absurd contract. To quote Rachel Phelps, “Cross him off, then!”
I’m still holding out hope on Amobi. Curious where you’re getting $126. Last I saw was $120-122.
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Yup.
Shit’s all over the place.
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The base number is 120, but there’s a contemplated mechanism that will allow teams to “borrow” from future cap years to get up to the 2009 cap number of 123*. There’s also another $3.5M in additional compensation that can be used to pay veterans; there’s been something in the past where veteran salaries were counted against the cap at less than their full amount, but I’m not sure if this will work in the same way.
On top of the 120/123/126, there’s $22 million in player benefits, but that isn’t part of the cap amount.
See here and here for more of the gritty details.
*-The “actual” amount of the 09 cap was actually higher than 123 because of a CAM adjustment, but 123 was the base amount.
IIRC, Grimes would be a RFA.
Although I do appreciate the irony of yanking him away from Atlanta.
I think if I had to order my non-Nnamdi/Joseph UFA CB list based on value, it would go like this:
1) Cromartie
2a) Josh Wilson
2b) Carlos Rogers (Basically the question is age vs. health here)
4) Chris Carr
5) Ike Taylor
6) Richard Marshall
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I had Grimes as a UFA. Hmm.
Josh Wilson is an interesting call. I don’t hate Carlos Rogers, but he would need to exfoliate just to have hands of stone. He couldn’t catch the clap in an Oklahoma sorority house. DO NOT WANT IKE TAYLOR, and that stance was even before I read this.
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Yeah Rogers is an absolute stonehands
…Yet I’d still rather have him than Ike Taylor.
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by riversmccown on Jul 22, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed on both.
I actually kind of like Carlos in the abstract. Just the thought of more dropped INTs makes me a little ill.
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There is a bright side to him dropping INTs
being that at least he’s making a play on the ball instead of getting burnt deep
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by The Night Owl on Jul 22, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Grimes is apparently an RFA
He apparently spent enough of his rookie season on the practice squad he didn’t earn an accrued season and thus is a 3-year veteran for free agency purposes.
Why's Marshall so low for you?
I’d probably want him 2nd to Wilson and more than Carr.
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Because he's shitty?
Poor numbers despite not being the no.1 CB in Carolina tell me that if he is no.1 here, we are in trouble.
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by riversmccown on Jul 23, 2011 4:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Rivers reminds me of Football Outsiders data i saw
they define a cb’s success rate and marshall is on their bottom 10.
plus, what he said about the idea of us going with the elevating a 2 to a 1…from the wort team in football last year.
The team that has never made the playoffs in franchise history...is the one most likely to ever make the playoffs again. WELCOME TO HOUSTON!
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I live and work along a 2-mile stretch of road, and I slept on the plane to get here. Is this Iraq...or Nevada?
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 23, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
And seriously
Eric Wright? The guy who was so bad that Cleveland fans gave him death threats? That is who you want starting? Yikes.
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If I'm remembering correctly
Wright was really good in 2008 and pretty good in 2009. Plus, Browns fans are fucking insane. Granted, Wright was not good in 2010, but that should make him cheaper, and he’s only 26.
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You remember wrong.
His last two seasons, he’s allowed 10.4 and 9.9 yards per pass.
For comparison, Glover Quin allowed 8.4 last year. Dunta Robinson allowed 9 in 2009.
In your defense, he was decent in 2008. I’ll give you that.
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by riversmccown on Jul 22, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
OK
Maybe I was basing it all on 2008. I just feel like the kid has a little talent. For the right price, I’d take a shot.
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Great job
I think I would time travel both ways – just cause I could And I think I could make money on both – Just don’t go too far ahead.
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Salary cap 142.5????????
I just read an interview with Bob Mcnair where he said salary cap was 142.5 . Any truth to that???
that includes benefits
The cap will be around 120. I’m not sure what benefits are included, but I’m assuming it’s health care, retirement funds type of thing.
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by papabear on Jul 23, 2011 6:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
What I think right now-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!
Our Amobi is all grown up now....
Potential? That is a word to used in the past tense when it comes to Amobi.
Today, to talk about his potential is to talk about, “where have the years gone?” His living up to his potential was last year. For him to show flashes last year is actually the flame flickering out. He has not evolved into anything that opposing offenses fear or gameplan around. He is a bust; a wasted draft pick. It is time to move on from Amobi.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I disagee
the word “bust” makes me think of boobs, which I like better than Amobi.
“Wasted draft pick” I’ll take though. Even if he panned out in the future (which I don’t expect), we still got, what, four years of mediocre play with a first rounder? I just don’t see the logic of drafting a developmental player that early.
He's six months younger than Ndamukong Suh
Even if you don’t buy youth as an excuse to this point, there’s nothing incorrect about talking about his future potential at that age.
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To all the "age-aplogists" - He was a man when he was drafted, so let's stop talking about his age
if he hasn’t shown it yet, there is no indication will will see it in the future. Amobi’s potential amounts to a guess as to who he will set behind.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
At 19...
Are trying to compete for a starting job on the college level.
As for his age now, he’s 24 at a position where the better DTs are usually up there in age (as MDC says, there’s tons of potential left).
"Lord, beer me strength."
Still, why draft him at all?
was there no one in the first round that could have helped our team more within a four year period? Really?
Screw potential. Even if he becomes “1st round good” later (he’s not now IMO), that was still too early to draft him just to wait a long, long time.
by JBal on Jul 23, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you implying that Rick Smith made a bad draft decision?
Because that would be hard for me to believe.
Even harder to believe on the defensive side
No busts there
Okoye was pretty universally regarded as a good pick at No. 10
Of course, a lot of that was because of his high upside since he was just 19.
I don’t think I have a problem with the pick in retrospect, but it is a cautionary tale when it comes to projections and youth.
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by riversmccown on Jul 23, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
At the time he was drafted...
I didn’t follow the draft prospects as closely as I do now, and even that makes me not nearly as well informed as some of the more hardcore draftniks. I’m acting strictly as the voice balloon above Captain Hindsight right now.
In hindsight I have a problem with Okoye at 10, or even in the top 4 rounds
He has been mediocre at his best. The fact that it might have been universally regarded as a good pick doesn’t mean squat today. He is a bust. I don’t want to see the team give him more time to show what he is, because he is what he is.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I'm not sure how you got that I'd be happy to have Okoye at 10 if we re-drafted today.
I’m just saying that, much like the David Carr pick, it wasn’t regarded as a bad pick at the time. If you’d warped me back to that moment with no knowledge of the future, I’d probably make the Okoye pick again.
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by riversmccown on Jul 23, 2011 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't necessarily argue with that...
Except that, what was the precedent for that pick? It’s one thing to say that draft pundits agreed that he was a top-15 talent. But on the other hand, what team has taken such a developmental prospect and actually had success? The learning curve for DTs is already high; throw in the age factor, and you’re looking at a guy who probably isn’t likely to have success within his first four years. Is it really worth paying #10 overall money for one productive year? I certainly didn’t complain when the pick happened, but in retrospect—even throwing aside results—it didn’t make a whole lot of sense.
I don't think Okoye was a developmental prospect though
There is a distinction between a player who has even higher potential and a player that is all potential.
Don’t forget that almost all of his career highlights came in the first month of 2007, or that the Texans defensive coaching staff under Kubiak had a habit of getting the least out of a lot of their younger players.
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by riversmccown on Jul 24, 2011 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure how you got that I thought you would be happy to have Okoye at 10 if we re-drafted
I’m also not sure why you have brought David Carr into the equation.
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another weird thing about Back to the Future
How do you guys think George McFly feels about his son Marty suddenly growing up to look EXACTLY like some random dude from high school?
Yeah, especially when she realizes, "Wait, I had a crush on someone that looked like my son???"
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by The Night Owl on Jul 23, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
she might hear of Calvin Klein later too...
a name she already associates with underwear, which may also seem odd.
But the whole Darth Vader from Vulcan thing
Was good – no matter how you spin it
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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 23, 2011 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Just went to the Texans site
And they have a picture there of McNair and a link to a story about his comments about the deal and all.
But the thing that struck is how much Bob McNair looks like Malcolm McDowell…
Holy crap, he does!
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Yeah, but...
That could mean anything.
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by UprootedTexan on Jul 23, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL A story in a story
A story by Gregg Rosenthal about what ESPN’s Chris Mortensen has in a story
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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 23, 2011 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup, there's been a lot of that lately.
Nice that all these reporters seem to be getting along or at least crediting each other though.
mdc
Your kid at Concordia villages for chinese in N minnesota? I was up there myself a few years ago just wondering
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Indeed he is.
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