2011 Free Agent Watch: What Do We Know After Day One?
by Tim on Jul 26, 2011 10:13 PM CDT
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PrintAs I write this, the two open threads we had at BRB today to discuss and track free agent movement have had nearly 1,800 comments (see here and here). That's unbelievable. What's even more unbelievable is that so very little of that discussion dealt with moves your Houston Texans actually made. Approximately one day in to the frenzy that is 2011 NFL free agency, what do we know about the Texans?
The simple answer: Not much. Nevertheless, a few quick thoughts...
1. Your Houston Texans agreed to terms with eighteen (18) undrafted rookie free agents. Their names, and some analysis, courtesy of SB Nation Houston's Danny Charles (here he's known as TexansDC):
LSU wide receiver Terrance Toliver Florida Atlantic wide receiver Lestar Jean
Oregon wide receiver Jeff Maehl
Montana-Carroll fullback Justin "Bubba" Bartlett
Temple offensive tackle Darius Morris
Colorado State fullback Zac Pauga
Tulane offensive tackle Peter Hendrickson
Rutgers guard Howard Bargieri
Florida State linebacker Mister Alexander (my new favorite Texans name by the way)
West Texas A&M linebacker Bryan Braman
Virginia Tech linebacker Steven Friday
Virginia defensive end Zane Parr
Virginia Tech defensive end John Graves
California cornerback Darian Hagan
TCU cornerback Jason Teague
Louisiana-Lafayette safety Maurice Rolle
Oklahoma defensive tackle Adrian Taylor
Central Michigan punter Brett HartmannIt is absurdly early, but if I had to place money on players to make the 53-man roster and/or 8-man practice squad, I’d place money on Toliver, Maehl, Pauga, Friday, Teague, Taylor, and Hartmann.
2. Matt Leinart will supposedly be reunited with his college sensai in Seattle. I am nonplussed. Dan Orlovsky hardly gives me any sense of security at QB2, but Leinart didn't either. If the guy wanted a place where he could compete for a starting gig, this was not the place for him.
3. The Texans re-signed Damione Lewis. I like Lewis, though it's unlikely he's any more than a rotation guy on the defensive line.
4. Nnamdi Asomugha has not agreed to terms with any team yet. Nor has Johnathan Joseph. Nor has Eric Weddle. Nor have the vast majority, if not all, of the possible players Smithiak may/should target for the currently woeful secondary. Keep hope alive!
5. By the time I publish this post, the preceding paragraph could be entirely outdated.
6. Neither Vonta Leach nor Jacoby Jones has signed anywhere else, either, yet I remain wholly unconvinced either player will be a Texan at the end of the week.
7. Somehow, Rashad Butler is still a Texan. That qualifies as a shocker, considering what Butler said just yesterday. Far be it for me to look that gift horse in the mouth, though; I'll gladly take Butler as the Texans' swing tackle again this year.
As we wind down on the first day of what's sure to be an insane week, what are your thoughts, observations, reaction, etc.?
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IKE TAYLOR IS OFF THE MARKET!!!
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"I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose...Rapture!"
So...
That means we should expect Carlos Rogers to be a Texan now?
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......
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by Jon Banks on Jul 26, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
I'm gonna go out on a limb here...
And say that there probably shouldn’t be that much celebration. We’re talking about a guy who has started on one of the best defenses in football for several years; a team notorious for great talent acquisition, and a defensive coordinator who has as good an eye for defensive talent as anybody. Something tells me the Steelers organization knows a little bit more than we do.
by Nashmeister on Jul 27, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
i wanna know his,deal
Probally got him cheap, and they just aneed average cb plp play
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
called it on Butler
so…yay me. I had us not getting a corner at all though, so hopefully my streak ends quick
Really curious to see the terms of Butler's deal.
i.e. is it a “Butler had no market” deal or a “Oh fuck we aren’t signing any of the top guys” deal.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
Pray For The Former
Expect the latter.
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But...
It could be a situation similar to Kevin Walter last year, in that the team Butler really thought he was going to (Redskins?) went in another direction, thus severely limiting his options.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
You'll recall I didn't like that deal much either.
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by riversmccown on Jul 26, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Walter was too much
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Allen might be a decent S
But he’s a downright horrible CB. It wouldn’t be the worst fall-back in the world, but we need to sign a real CB.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 26, 2011 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Give him a chance with wade philips
At least gets occasional ints
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 10:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Downright horrible is kjax teritory....
Hes not THAT bad a cb IMO
by Carter Liles on Jul 26, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
See the Jets game?
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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 26, 2011 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
... But he hadgood too moments..., didn't he?
by Carter Liles on Jul 26, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
One game. No pass rush
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 10:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
He was decent against the Eagles
He was cut by the Dolphins because he couldn’t play S or CB. Just because he was the tallest midget for the Texans is not a good thing.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 26, 2011 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Im not entirely sure that one was all his fault.
Looked like he was expecting safety help over the top.
"Slammed that hoe on the counter like I just got 35 on the domino table!!"
Sherrod Harris
It's going to be JJ and vonta
Plus sensabough. That’s it
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 10:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Joseph And Sensabaugh?
I’d be very happy with that.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
i think Cincy is going hard to Keep him
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Tend To Agree
I don’t think he gets out of Cincinnati, unless he REALLY just wants to get out of Cincinnati.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
are you talking about Joseph or Palmer?
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Joseph
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
yeah
I think Joseph stays in Cincinnati
by jtr bmf 281 on Jul 26, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Cincy has enough money to burn
And they will. Joseph doesn’t mind it there.
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Jacoby jones
Bet you like it no more!
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 10:34 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You Are Correct, Sir
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
I believe John Clayton and Mort
more than that other guy. They both said that Texans are leaders to sign Nnamdi.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
All this Nnamdi to Jets talk is weird
Why spend all that money on their secondary? It’s like us trying to beef up our running game with a high dollar back. We already talked about this, but how does no one else out there seem to think that?
They will never win without any offense.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
For the same reason Kubiak keeps going after offensive players
Rex Ryan doesn’t know offense. He’s a defensive genius, but not so much on offense.
Not Exactly Analagous To Us Signing Another RB, What With Two CBs In A Base Set And All
If Scrabble signs with the Jets, it’s clearly not a case of him chasing every last dollar. I wouldn’t fault him for sacrificing salary for the sake of wanting to play with Revis and for Ryan.
In the meantime, root for the Jets to sign Drayton Florence or to re-sign Cromartie. If either of those happens, they’re not getting Nnamdi.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
"Why spend all that money on their secondary?"
Tom Brady.
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
In Smithiak we trust(ed)!
I wish we could get some kind of report of
the Texans negotiating with Nnamdi.
No report form real reporters so i think we are still in the lead.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
I lol'd at this tweet:
SeanCablinasian Sean Pendergast
@The_Raheel Can you get Nnamdi on tomorrow to announce he won’t be signing with the Texans? #RaheelNunoReverseJinx
some Nnamdi recruiting news
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/42072/reviewing-first-day-of-asomugha-pursuit
The New York Jets have caused a wave by contacting Asomugha. ESPN’s Adam Schefter reported earlier Tuesday the Jets and Houston could be Asomugha’s most ardent pursuers. Teams like the Ravens and Cowboys have cleared a lot of cap room and there’s speculation they will make runs at the Oakland cornerback.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Ravens used up a large chunk of that cap space on Yanda, so they are out
Cowboys are still a possibility, but they won’t throw as much at Nnamdi as the Texans will, and are worse off than the Texans are playoff contender-wise. Nnamdi wants to play for a contender. If he has dreams of going to NYJ, then you know what, fuck him. Fuck him six ways from Sunday, but I seriously doubt he does. And here’s why.
From a player standpoint, it’s a blackhole. He will always be compared to the guy opposite him on the field. The problem with that is he will have shit-tastic numbers for the rest of his career. Add to that, that no matter how good he is, he’ll never be recognized on the Jets as the TOP CB ON THE TEAM. Nnamdi wants to be that guy. He’s a competitor, not a fucking Yankee.
I think it’s honestly just Nnamdi’s agent knowing a coach on the Jets to get the Texans to drive the price up. After all, the first we’d really heard wind of the Jets having real interest was from Kowalski, and something tells me he’s friends with Nnamdi’s agent as well. Would that surprise anyone, really?
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by Fuzion on Jul 26, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
Didn't Scrabble Talk About Playing With Revis?
A couple of years ago?
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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
but he has a point
would he really want to be compared to Revis?
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
If He's All About Winning, Or Simply Playing For Rex Ryan
I’m not sure how much he’d care.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
And the Texans will flash more of one of those than the other
Hell, somebody Tweet Scrabble and remind him we had TWO Texans in a fucking SuperBowl commercial.
#StickThatInYoPipeAndSmokeIt
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All about winning with Sanchez as your QB
I guess it could be done, but better options are out there
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 10:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
So many for sure.
Even Rusty Smith could compete for that. OK I guess Sanchez is better than Rusty, but maybe Dan O. Alright, well shit….Everyone else though!
how does going from
the 6th best team against the pass to the 1st best team against the pass help a team that still doesn’t have a competent QB?
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 26, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Because checkdown every down baby...
And still 6th best in the league.
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Sorry...misread your comment.
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LOL
yeah ya had me confused. I think Nnamdi would have a better chance winning in Houston, we can put up the points, the Jets can’t. And Nnamdi can’t help them there.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 26, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Totally agreed
You and I are 100% on the same page there.
I think he’s honestly trying to push the $’s up for the Texans.
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Revis <> Johnson
It’s not like we are sitting around without as good a guy as Revis or better, just on the opposite side of the ball. The Jets have the defense, we have the offense. At least Nnamdi can actually improve his side of the ball on the Texans. With the Jets, I think their front line still allows for running lanes. Just sayin’.
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Jets also need to shore up there pass rush instead of their pass defense
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They could go after Ngata
And seal that line forever. Meaning they’d be tight as hell.
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I thought they only wrapped up Yanda or whomever that was?
I wasn’t aware they re-signed Ngata as well.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Didn't they franchise tag Ngata?
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jul 27, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I haven't heard that
I could be wrong.
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so basically every team still wants him.
with a couple of teams leading the pack. If im Nnamdi im in no hurry to sign anywhere. he cant report until aug 4 so i would wait as much as i could.
Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jul 26, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
But if he wants to play for a contender
He’s not going to hamhock them into not making any other moves as a result of him being too patient. I think he signs Friday or next Monday. One of the two. With his agent pushing the price up Sat and Sun for shits and giggles.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Except teams he might be more interested in playing for
might pop their war chest to retain their FA’s or grab another thinking they don’t have the coin to get him, and he could end up somewhere he isn’t really excited about….and then under-perform for them out of remorse.
Indecision is still a decision…
Aaron Wilson
OT Rashad Butler re-signs with Houston Texans for two years, $3.8 million, $1.25 million bonus, per a source. He chose Texans over Redskins.
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Great goodness
That’s a complete steal. Outstanding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Rick did a good job
did I just say that?
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Is this Bizzaro World?
"It was like the Alamo!"
by BabyBeezy03 on Jul 26, 2011 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Kubith believes in us
"It was like the Alamo!"
by BabyBeezy03 on Jul 26, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions
First non massive-overpaying?
I’ll drink to that! Hopefully I’ll get through at least half my cocktail before he gives Carlos Rogers six years, $70 million.
by Nashmeister on Jul 26, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
That's a discount for his talent in my opinion
Rick drives a hard deal
by MeMongo on Jul 26, 2011 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Guess he realized the Texans offense doesn't suck.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
If Those Numbers Are Accurate
That’s a very good deal for the Texans.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Rashad's plan...
Here’s how Rashad’s two-year contract will play out:
Year 1 – Drug Duane Brown this year, get on the field for 8 games while DB is suspended
Year 2 – Drug Duane Brown next year, get on the field all 16 games while DB is suspended
Then sign another contract for massive profit!
I wonder how little Nnamdi will have leftover after he pays for his accountants and bodyguards.
by WhiskeyR on Jul 26, 2011 10:49 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
This is pure asomguaness
If I could Rec this I would. Nice!
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 11:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm pretty half of Houston will be his body gaurd for free
If he comes down here. No one would mess with him or they’d be shot with in 10 seconds.
You give me a football, and you give me a dream. You give me the game of football and you give me a life long job.
Yawn.
Alright I’m going to sleep. Can’t take anymore of this tension for now. Be back tomorrow morning to sit at my computer for hours hoping we sign some quality players.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
You and the other 200 or so of us
Hope is still alive, and the weddle to JAX report was bogus. I’m waiting for the cuts now. Slaton, okoye, other jackasses
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 11:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
And bye-bye goes Dallas.
Adam Schefter
Dallas reached agreement on a four-year, $32 million deal that included $17 million in guaranteed money with OT Doug Free.
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With how bad their O-Line looked
Can we really blame them at all?
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It's seriously looking like us vs Jets
I’ll take those odds. I might be disappointed but a 50-50 chance doesn’t look bad right now
Dont count out the darkhorse just yet
Lions
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 11:10 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Lions have already backed out of the race.....did so weeks ago.
I imagine they’ll target a Josh Wilson
"Lord, beer me strength."
Detroit might have the coin
but why the hell would he go there? It’s not NY (so it lacks acting vicinity and coaches who are descendents from the Hutts), and Houston has a far better shot at post-season than Detroit.
OMG, HUTTS! Ryans family genes exposed.
by MeMongo on Jul 26, 2011 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Henceforth you shall be known as....
Rob Hutt and Rex Hutt
So let it be written, so let it be done!
by MeMongo on Jul 26, 2011 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Tampa helped.
They got into a nice bidding war.
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You know
If I’m Andre right now, I’m blowing up Scrabble Twitter acct and phone. There’s no reason AJ wouldn’t be pushing Scrabble to wear some SteelBlue.
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by Fuzion on Jul 26, 2011 11:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I guarantee he is
But he’s probably got it locked down for now.
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I'm pretty positive Dre is doing all he can to convince Nnamdi.
He said even before the lockout ended, he was calling and texting Nnamdi asking him if he was going to sign here. Dre wants to win and he knows that Nnamdi can help him.
Out of curiosity
Does anyone remember last NBA offseason when a particular asshole whose last name shall end in ‘osh’ mentioned how money wasn’t the most important thing?
Hope Nnamdi’s paying attention to how that worked out in Miami for the three assholes. Not so good
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But that's because Lebron is a poser
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 11:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
But Dwayne Wade ain't no slouch
The trio just was never a good idea.
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Wade is great
Bosh is ok
Lebron is a waste of talent who sold his soul to the devil
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 11:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't even think Bosh is ok
Just Wade. He shoulda come on over to Houston :P Wade…not Bosh.
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Say we get a major FA for our secondary
That’s just one position.. I don’t mean to put hopes down because I’m very optimistic about this season, just like every season, but can one dude turn our secondary around?
Uh...yeah
He pretty much can.
There WAS no Secondary last year. Just a large void known as SHZ and some other pieces which didn’t fit.
Besides…they weren’t exactly coached…or given a scheme. It’s like taking vanilla and adding it to a vanilla shake…in the end it just tastes like more shit than before.
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by Fuzion on Jul 26, 2011 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
As do I
I think ANY scheme has a chance of success, even without Nnamdi. I think with Nnamdi though, it frees Wade up to really send the blitzers and force the QB to one side or the other.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
I just realized, we all talk about who we need.
But how long will we sign them or need them?
You give me a football, and you give me a dream. You give me the game of football and you give me a life long job.
I think it depends on the player
Nnamdi I think is a minimum of 5 years since he’s 30. Johnathan Joseph would be 6 years or more because he’s 27. Other CB, 4 years. Jacoby Jones, maybe a 3 year deal. Vonta, I’m going with a 4 year deal
I bet he thinks he can get 8/120
I wouldn’t give him more than 5/65, which is still ridiculous
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by AllenOU on Jul 26, 2011 11:24 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No way he's getting an 8 year contract at his age..
He’s living a pipe dream if he thinks he’s going to get that many years. Mhy max years for Nnamdi would be 6 years.
Length of the contract is irrelevant
It’s not guaranteed… Signing bonus is the bigger deal.
Just for making the deal work
You could give Nmandi a 6-7 year deal with big signing bonus so that it’s prorated out over a longer period, with every intention of cutting him after year 5 or so unless he transitions to an all-world safety at that age
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Do it 6 years with an option for year 7 even
And then you’re covered on both sides. Though, hell, with our young CBs, even that far down the road he’d be a hell of an asset just to mentor them.
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Exactly
A longer contract isn’t a bad thing, and anything projected out over 4 years is probably meaningless accounting jedi-tricks anyways…
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Vonta Leach?!?!
What about Le’Ron McClain?? Now thats my kind of FB!!
I propose a fusion
Forces Le’ron and Vonta to do the fusion dance
And he will be known as Le’ronta McLeach.
LOL
Hell yes puttin him on my fantsasy team
You know what's funny?
All I’ve seen so far is the Jets have contact Nnamdi, that’s it. The rest is pure speculation. We as Texans Fans did that shit for a long time, too. Then we gave up. We all know just talking ain’t nothing.
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Im sure we have hit him up too but The networks do not want Nnamdi in Houston
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by Antho10000 on Jul 26, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
More people will tune in if they here “the two best corners on the same team, super bowl or bust” other than “nnamdi signs with Houston, one less hole to fill for them”
You give me a football, and you give me a dream. You give me the game of football and you give me a life long job.
Oh I know we did
We had already posted the boy an offer. My point is speculation and a tiny bit of a rumor of “talks” is enough for NYJ fanboys to go absolutely apeshit. It’s ridiculous. But yeah, because the Texans would be a contender, and it’s Houston. Nuff said.
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The networks will be against Houston by default
especially since the Texans underwhelmed them all last year and made their expectations look foolish beyond measure.
Schefty is up late tonight
AdamSchefter:
Washington tried weaking division opponent New York early Wednesday, reaching agreement with DT Barry Cofield on a six-year deal. [via Twitter]
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A short 20 minutes ago I saw rumblings of Washington being in the Nnamdi rush
Looks to me like Wahsington just took themselves out of it. Thanks Skins.
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Damn
News is slowing down, rumors are slowing down. And I still have to push myself another 2 hours tonight. Shiiiiiit.
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Till midnight.
Which thing opens up tommarow?
by Carter Liles on Jul 26, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely nothing really. Lol.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Correction...
10 Teams report to camp. That’s all. Thursday is cut day, officially. Friday is official signings.
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Dang...
King of the hill for the rest of the night it is!
by Carter Liles on Jul 26, 2011 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
What can I say?
I conduct the late night train. New position has me working usually 10p – 6a give or take a lil. Anyone know of a really good energy drink or maybe a really good coffee maker? lol.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
I like the Monster "lo carb" or "zero" drinks
Nice boost, without the spike and cliff that knocks you unconscious afterward. Taste pretty good, and not a boat load of sugar.
I hate the taste of both of those
I’ve tried the Khaos Monsters, and I’m personally a fan. Honestly, the 5hr energies are the ones I’ve enjoyed the most, but I hate the taste. Thankfully it’s such a small amount it doesn’t last long taste-wise, but the energy is good for a while.
Khaos Monsters it is, though, thanks for reminding me Mongo!
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Did you see what I did there at the end?
Did ya did ya?
-crawls back into his PC cave-
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yeah good stuff amigo
Oh, have you tried “Rehab” Monster yet? It’s like an Arnold Palmer flavor (ice tea and lemonaid)
i like red bull
Just cause my boy rickie fowler rocks it on the golf course!
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
You're the second person to mention it
The first was a client of mine telling me her daughter loves them. I might have to try those. I love AP’s.
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Hmm...
There’s a Wal-Mart close by. You have intrigued me.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Damnit Mongo.
Keep the thread running for the next 15-20 while I go grab me one. You bastard.
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Well hell
I get up to go change clothes to get ready to hit up Wally World…and I realize I’m wearing my prescription sunglasses…because I have eye infections in both eyes, and thus can’t drive at night. Everyone else is asleep. FML. Epic fail. So sad so sad.
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I'm good.
Half hour down of two left, and I’m seeing straight still. I have some caffeineted beverages downstairs, just not on the level of a AP Monster Rehab.
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Try Rockstar
I remember drinking it once after a few weeks of no caffeine, and I could literally feel my heartbeat. It’s my go to energy drink for a 3-4 hour intense boost.
For longer more sustained energy, honestly tea with honey doesn’t give me the crash and keeps me alert.
Yeah uh no on the Rockstar
I already take Blood Pressure meds, thanks.
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by Fuzion on Jul 27, 2011 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I feel your pain.
I work a 7p-7a shift for a week out of every month. Unfortunately my secret is I drink a lot of tea, mainly because I hate the taste of coffee.
I’ve never really tried energy drinks or things like that, though after certain sleepless nights/days I’ve been really tempted to go after a 5-hour energy.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
If I can just get my body trained to the hours
They are consistent enough I’ll be okay. I’ll just end up hating myself when the games come on. Lol.
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Resetting your body clock definitely helps.
That’s a weekly occurrence for me, as I work week-long day shifts (7a-7p) between those graveyard shifts.
But waking up after four hours of sleep to watch football and heading to work straight after is a good way to make your body hate you. I’m pretty sure mine plots my own death in my sleep.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Lol.
Thankfully, if I do that, I’ll get what’ll amount to a 3 hr nap before games, maybe 4 hours. Then I’ll be able to crash again afterward.
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Dallas to soon be done for good?
JasonLaCanfora:
The chase for Cullen Jenkins gonna be very interesting. Always is whenever the Redskins and Cowboys have interest in the same player! [via Twitter]
Follow me on twitter: @Super_Stud2100
They already were done in my mind.
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not sure if posted but
@RandyMcIlvoy
Schaub said today hed be willing to restructure deal to help team tackle Free agency
hopefully it helps
KP
it's "sensei," grasshopper.
"There's no place like it, and it's ours." - Stephen King on Fenway Park
by 808BostonSportsFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:09 AM CDT reply actions
RE: Jets
The more I think about it, the more I don’t think they are honestly going after Nnamdi. I think they want Cromartie or Florence instead, and hope by making like they are going after Nnamdi they can land either of them cheap. I mean, they already have Revis, and has been said already numerous times from a financial standpoint Nnamdi + Revis doesn’t make a whole, whole lot of sense. I mean, sure you’d have the best CB tandem ever, but you’d also be putting 25-30% of your entire team salary cap into two guys in one position. It doesn’t make sense fiscally speaking. Really, it doesn’t.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
this
we are the only team that makes sense. i know it doesn’t always work that way, but, assuming mcnair is opening the wallet, no other team makes sense to grab scrabble
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions
I think other teams make sense
I mean the Eagles do, even though they are trying to go younger. But they are hard going after other guys at other positions. I do believe we are the frontrunner, but I think all this hype on the jets is just that, hype. In the end, he’s not going to GangGreen. It ain’t happening. Sorry.
I still don’t buy 100% he’s in Steel Blue, but the more I think it over, the more it does ultimately make a lot of sense. Especially after he’s played against Johnson every season for the last how many it seems like?
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Eagles = Jets; Asante Samuel was most expensive free agent signing in 07 or 08 or whenever he got nabbed
Samuel is a Top 5 cornerback that is paid like it. Neither him nor Nnamdi will accept being the #2 guy in town.
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
This
Joseph or Marshal makes a lot of sense for Eagles. Both guys are much younger than Asante, used to playing with an (arguably) better #1 CB, and their contracts will likely peak at a point when Asante may not even be on the team or in the league anymore
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Marshall then. You all need to get out of your heads that JoJo is departing the state of Ohio
and that don’t mean he’s gonna be a Brown either
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
I have no hindrance in stating unequivically...
Joseph is going to be a Bengal and for a very LARGE amount of money.
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Makes sense
I’m just hoping it’s not true. There literally is no other reason than money to stay there
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
He likes being a number one
He knows the scheme, knows the plays, knows his teammates. Those are all other reasons. Also, the fans love him. That accounts for something to some players.
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In Cincy
I’m not sure that knowing his teammates is a positive, but I get your point
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
I never said it was a positive
Haha!
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The reason is Dalton + Green
If the other A.J. and the second best Horned Frog ever develop quickly, JoJo is on the ground floor for the team that dethrones Pittsburgh and Baltimore eventually.
Well, Pittsburgh’s usually good at being a perennial contender but the Ravens have too much age at certain positions to not backslide to the 7-9 win range at some point
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Dalton is going to be a damn good NFL QB
He’s built for it and has damn good accuracy, a la Drew Brees
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I want to believe this, and the logic makes sense
but I just have this sick feeling picturing us versus the Jets in ~15 days (it’s late and I’m lazy). 1 pick and most local blogs will be intolerable for weeks
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:24 AM CDT up reply actions
Lol
Don’t worry about preseason game 1. It really is completely meaningless when you consider neither the Jets nor the Texans report to camp til Sunday.
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UDFA's are meaningless too
but that doesn’t stop the internets. I just want to be able to read through the comment sections and not want to strangle 50+ people
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
UDFAs aren't meaningless and never have been
Winning or losing a preseason game after a lockout is like taking the school slut to prom. You know you’re going to score, it’s just a matter of how much you remember the next day.
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They have to get there first...
The Jets that is.
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If the Jets did do it and field Revis and Scrabble....
Then I’d definitely get Vonta re-signed and design plays against the Jets that have Leach and Thor leading Foster up the middle until the local fire department runs out of ambulances.
by MeMongo on Jul 27, 2011 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
And some dump-offs to Thor, too
Cuz that dude can play with the ball in his hands, too.
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I still support the idea of Thor not blocking for Foster
but instead sprinting past the linebackers and forcing them to make an instant call of selling for Foster running and potentially giving up a first down to Casey or blanketing Casey and letting Foster through the hole.
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
This is my early vote for "surprising new offensive wrinkle"
We started with the “Ron Dayne and cloud of twinkie dust”, worked in some PA rollouts under baby Shan, then let Foster take over…
Seriously though, I felt like our PA game died off a lot last year despite the wild success of our running game, and Casey at FB might change that. I loved THCM but he just wasn’t a legitimate receiving option
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
With Kubiak calling plays
We actually never had a PA attack. PA was a Baby Shan thing, and he was damn good at drawing them up. Kubiak is kinda not a PA guy…and it sucks cuz Schauby to AJ deep is a beautiful thing.
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wasn't Dennison calling plays last year though?
I remember Kubiak making a big deal about “focusing on the game as a whole” or something like that
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
that was all Frank Bush wasn't it?
I can’t keep track of all the Rocky Mountain Jingo though
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I only remember Frank Bush getting called down to bench level
but =D I’m a n00b ;-). so I could be wrong.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe you are right
I remember seeing Dennison on the field the last game of the season, and that was from my vantage point in the 600’s.
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what is a "PA game" in this context?
all I can think of is “personal assist” and I am pretty sure THAT is the wrong sport =D so educate me please.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:35 AM CDT up reply actions
Play Action
When the offense plays like they are going to run, suckers in the linebackers, DBs, etc, freezing them or bringing them off the WRs and TEs and then bam, QB pass out long.
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ahhh ok
=) awesome info, Mongo, Fuzion, and PHolmesandHTexans,
I miss those sneaky play action moves. It was fun to totally bamboozle the opposing defense with those.
Maybe Dennison will feel more at home and more willing to be adventurous this season. OR Maybe that was the one good thing about Baby Shan but for some reason I always blame Baby Shan with the half back pass ;-(.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
play action
fake handoff then pass
in THOR’s case, let the linebackers chase Foster then lob it over their heads to THOR for 6 yards + yards after catch
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
wait is this some version of a halfback pass?
I forget what position Thor plays . . .but I veto any and all half back passes ever again in Texans history.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
blasphemy!
we have tight ends other than Owed Daniels?
=O
no wai!
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
so long as the ball stays in Schaub's hands until the ball gets "lobbed" over heads
then I’m cool with this idea.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
rec'd!
for making me laugh!
Preach it , Mongo!
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Random Nnamdi Question:
IT’s been said that he always stays on the left side of the field instead of shadowing the opponent’s top receiver.
Isn’t that simply a defensive coordinator thing, and therefore Wade could tell him, “Hey that guy over there…Reggie whatever…yeah pretend he’s on your opponent’s fantasy football team. Thanks!”
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:25 AM CDT reply actions
I think it's by his preference, but I could be wrong.
I do know the Raiders suck, so it’s hard to say for sure.
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and he seems like such a team player that he would probably defer to Wade if asked
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
He's had a side preference, but Wade will get him moved around by design
and if he wants to play Safety some day, he’ll need to get more comfortable moving around back there anyway.
I do believe this past season, he was shadowing the opponent's #1 more than in the past.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Hey Tim, another thought you'll like
Asomugha and Amobi are bestest buds as I recall. They have been undergoing a joint venture to do something in Africa.
If I was Nnamdi, I’d have keeping Okoye on board as part of the package.
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:30 AM CDT reply actions
Then why in the bloody hell isn't Smith having Okoye on the phone with Scrabble all day, all night
Hell, if I’m Rick Smith I’m offering provisions to help their joint venture financially.
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Yeah like $60 MM of Bob McNair's money
"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."
by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 27, 2011 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Interesting idea
Can McNair promise to donate say $20mil to his venture? It wouldn’t count towards the salary cap…
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
There have been wilder clauses in contracts
I don’t see why not. Or perhaps, don’t call it a donation, just say to help kickstart the venture.
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Hakeem should be on the phone with him as well
I thought having a tight Nigerian community nearby was also very important to Aso, not just the $$$
by DerrickDoll 7 on Jul 27, 2011 2:29 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL if Namdi loves the extra cash he really needs to come to Texas
He can live like a king here in Texas for the same price that he can live in “decent accommodations” in California or New York.
Everything is cheaper here.
real estate
groceries
gasoline
Whatever square footage he has in California atm, I bet he can double that here in Texas. (I’m not a real estate agent at all so I could be blowing smoke at y’all but I remember one former Californian telling me that he was floored by how cheap it was to move here).
Add to that for all the home games, he has ZERO income tax on our games.
The Jets simply aren’t THAT great. One of their recent trips to the playoffs was a bloody GIFT from the colts (rolled over and played dead) and the inept (Cincinnati) Bengals who couldn’t play a real game if their lives depended on it — remember the Bengals went on that year to LOSE in their first game in the playoffs.
If Namdi really is star struck with the idea of going to New York or pairing up with Revis then he gets what he deserves.
Last season’s pathetic performance was a symptom of our craptastic defense not an indictment of our awesome offense which dug us out of many holes last year.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 2:39 AM CDT up reply actions
It just hit me...
We could ACCUALLY SIGN nnamndi!! Like for real!
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 12:31 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
I just lol’d for reals.
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Looks like I'm the only sane person awake
This is new
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter
by AllenOU on Jul 27, 2011 12:41 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You were sane?
This IS breaking news.
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seriously...
Who else is gonna sign him?
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to bed with that as my final thought
dreaming of Scrabble shutting down half the field while wearing Steel Blue…
and hoping a “woodchuck Geico” commercial doesn’t interrupt it!
See yall tomorrow
Gnight Mongo!
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i can just see peyton on friday...
“this just in, the texans have signed nnamndi!”
Peyton throws down the ice he was holding to his neck.accidentley seperates throwing shoulder.
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Update of the hour
AdamSchefter:
DE Adrian Clayborn became first 1st-round pk under new labor deal to reach agreement on new deal. Blake Baratz and Bucs just finished deal. [via Twitter]
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
pancakes tweets
we have agreed to terms with jacoby jones…
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 27, 2011 12:47 AM CDT reply actions
Until I see an actual Schefter tweet on it
It’s just heresay
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pancakes tweet
3 yrs worth 10.5 million….3 million guranteed
by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions
He's not worth that much IMHO
Really, REALLY not.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
not at all...
Are my nnamndi dreams really over that quickly?
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that was my reality check right there
That’s the same crap that got this organization into the mess it’s in. The players they pay aren’t worth what they pay, and those they don’t pay are worth what they get elsewhere. It’s not well run, and it’s sad. Even if they get Nnamdi, I feel abused.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
sighhh....after 9 years I FINNALLY had hope...
Literally only an hour of Hope… Ive ben cynical for so long… Acnd then I FINNALLY believed… This is what I get
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Seriously
Ever since I heard the (probably bogus) cap numbers for us I have been wondering “where the hell does our payroll go?”. We haven’t been a playoff team, clearly don’t have enough premier players on defense, and get very cost-efficient production out of our running game. Who is getting all teh moneyz?
What's worse is there's no way in hell we resign Foster next season
Sad Fuzion is sad.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Technically, we could lock him up with a three year veterans minimum contract
As an ERFA, he has to sign it or not play at all
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jul 27, 2011 6:02 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed. he's not worth that much based on past works
he sure as hell better start learning how to focus at the right times.
I know I remember Arian Foster saying that no one can be focused all the time but damn it, Jacoby Jones doesn’t HAVE to be focused all the time . . . just when the ball is coming his way or has the chance to be coming way . . .
holy smokes that’s over paying for his past production.
Rick Smith is too generous.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions
For a team with the best running game in the NFL and massive needs in the secondary...
We have an absurd amount of money tied up at the receiver and TE positions.
DISLIKE.
From Adam LaConfora now
JasonLaCanfora:
WR Jacoby Jones and T Rashad Butler both agree to terms to stay with the Texans [via Twitter]
That makes that shit official. FML.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
be more overdramatic please
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
by nolander on Jul 27, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Texans resign jacoby jones
Per twitter
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter
by AllenOU on Jul 27, 2011 12:50 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
When I can't tell if you guys are joking or not
I’m guessing that’s not a good sign…
I really hope that the announcements of Butler & Jacoby coming so late in the day isn’t a sign of our FO realizing they aren’t going to get a big deal done and trying to retain what they have….but that is probably the most likely scenario
by Jason Brown on Jul 27, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
The latter has been the case for many offseasons
And seems to once again be the case here. It’s their backup plan, and as a fan, it fucking blows.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
I'm glad we can start bitching and whining before the people we even want to sign
are off the market or we have been rumored to no longer be in on them. fml
You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.
The writing's on the wall.
We already were close to the cap and didn’t have much play room. With resigning Jacoby, moreso than Butler, we are hemming ourselves in, in terms of the cap. Unless they throw some absurd amount of bonus at Nnamdi, I still don’t see it working out enough to land him over another team offering similar money at this point. We had to be a clear winner in terms of the offer, but I don’t think we can be now.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
I think the writing has been there for awhile
http://www.battleredblog.com/2011/7/1/2254139/great-expectations-texans-free-agency-priorities
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
They have until next week to get under the cap. No need to panic now.
Let them do their jobs and then react.
"Lord, beer me strength."
=P I'm not
I thought we’d be doing moves that make sense for once. Although I have no real opinion about Rashad Butler so I’ll give Rick Smith the benefit of the doubt there.
I guess keeping those two doesn’t break the bank but still . . . way to kill the euphoria, Texans Front Office.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
For me it was the lack of a contract that didn't make sense
To me, Jacoby Jones is not worth the money they threw at him. Let him walk. Who cares? To me, he doesn’t make up enough of the offense to warrant 3.66Million per year. Not a chance.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
next...
Okoaye and slaton get new contracts.
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Okoye I can see them restructuring and I'd be ok with
But Slaton needs to go. Especially with Tate ready to make his run.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
He still won't be worth it but...
this might make more sense if Walter (and maybe DA) is cut. From what I can find JJ’s salary will be around what Walter will get this year. I’m not saying I agree with the process, but I can totally see Kubiak thinking he could get more bang for his buck out of Jacoby + Dorin + random mix of UDFA
this makes more sense if
some of his hints at working in more of our TE stockpile is true. Jacoby might be the #2 with OD/Casey/whateverotherTE spending a lot of time in the slot.
If you think about it, there isn’t a lot of difference between Walter and some of those TE’s in terms of receiving ability
And if you think I'M bitching and whining
Wait til tmw morning when people read those terms. The dogs gonna be barking.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Jacoby's deal is bull shit.
10.5 million over 3 years? Please. He’s a decent deep threat, but he’s made no significant progress over the past few seasons, so I doubt he makes some in the next 3.
The main thing that pisses me off is that Dickerson will (hopefully) be much better than Jacoby in a year or two. Not a bad thing, but by that time, Jacoby’s contract is going to be a pain in the ass. He’s got much more natural ability than Jakespeare.
For all of us who were thinking that we were going to sign Scrabble, Joseph, or Weddle, we’ve been Smithiaked.
Props to Mike for calling this. Looks like we’re going to re-sign our guys and sign just Sensabaugh.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
I still can't believe this.
Can someone tell me how Jacoby has earned 10.5 million?
It really is mind blowing to me.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
seriously...
Can i get a link?? Cause jacoby jones is not worth this money at all
better yet,
tell me how we pay Jacoby Jones that much and we ditched Bernard Pollard who played with the heart of lion for this team.
In my book, Pollard was the most obvious victim of Bush’s craptastic defensive scheme.
I’ll never forget Pollard blocking that punt. That was clutch and it was classic Pollard. I think we’ll regret letting Pollard go.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I love Pollard (my name),
but he doesn’t fit in Wade’s scheme.
It’ll also be tough for me to let him go.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Jul 27, 2011 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions
err =D maybe pollard blocked a field goal
but it was still awesome.
/cry
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions
it makes me physically sick to my stomach to hear that Nnamdi will likely be a Jet
according to all the “sources” saying that they are talking deeply about it right now…
I'm looking forward to bigger and better things from the Texans this year... I've decided to start fresh and refocus on the things that matter... thats right... I speak of SKIN BLEACH! no need to burn your throat.. it can't feel it anymore anyways! apply directly to the skin or eyes and let the mind blowing pain steal your focus from the disaster on the field!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 1:27 AM CDT reply actions
+1
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Jul 27, 2011 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions
the bleach one? cuz i literally totally just changed it after putting that up there.
nobody had said anything about it so I i figured i’d try something new :P
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions
It will be so incredibly
stupid if the Jets sign Nnamdi, they won’t have addressed any of their team needs at all and won’t be much better afterwards
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
That defense will be damn near invincible though.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Jul 27, 2011 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions
And they would still
have Rex Grossman as their starting QB.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions
The Jets
weakness is the offense, if they are going to throw around big money it should be for some offensive help, not more defensive help
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions
he hasn't played in 2 years due to season ending ACL injuries.
and they still haven’t really gotten “Run all over”. all that did for them was free up more money.
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions
To sign their new DT, young and healthy...
Wilkerson.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
If Scrabble signs with the Jets,
I will give them the Super Bowl trophy.
Their defense was already stacked enough last season.
Imagine Rex Ryan being abe to blitz just about EVERY single down. That’s scary.
He can do that with Revis and Scrabble as his 1 and 2, then Kyle Wilson as his 3. That’s effing scary.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Jul 27, 2011 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions
actually...
The jets are talking about contract with Cromartie as well. are they aware of the salary cap or what? because that seems … not fair?
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I think that the whole
trying to get Nnamdi thing is just a stunt, I don’t really think they intend on spending that much on another CB, it would be beyond foolish.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions
thats debatable but with Rex Hutt running the show, it's not foolish.
as I type this, he’s likely pulling out his tongs to reach his junk so he can stimulate himself further.
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions
That doesn't change the fact that it is
foolish, it just makes the foolish act believable.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Rex Ryan is the Gary Kubiak of defenses
He loves him some CBs and will stockpile them until the entire defense is made up of only DBs. Hell, I’m surprised he didn’t draft a CB. Kinda like I was surprised Kubiak didn’t draft a TE.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
i bet some of the Jets' draft picks played CB
in college or high school.
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions
They did draft two WRs
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
Ok well guys I've pushed my body to it's limit.
I’m fading fast, so good night! The signing of Jacoby Jones took the wind out of my sails for the night.
-- "...I was sick, napping, and then woke up and came to the computer to read a note from the Gingered Angel of Doom..." Martek - Dynamo Theory Blog
night dude. dream of happy things
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions
sweet dreams lol
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions
F it took the wind out of your sails...
It sunk my battleship!!!. GOODNIGHT AND SCREW RICK SMITH!
by Carter Liles on Jul 27, 2011 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I personally think
that LaDanian Tomlinson’s production last year was a fluke, I think he shows that he is done next year and the Jets offense will be weak unless it is revamped in FA, picking up Nnamdi makes them worse because it will mean that they can’t address the problems with their offense.
It would be like the Texans
ignoring the problems in their secondary and just picking up the best WR out there.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions
That signing is stupid
but it doesn’t mean that we can’t still have signings to fix the secondary, if we went out and threw a bag full of cash at Santonio Holmes or Steve Breaston then it would be the same
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 1:57 AM CDT up reply actions
True i guess it could be worse
Just really not a fan.. Oh well we get to watch more dropped balls yay!
LOL
The pessimist says “it can’t get any worse”.
The optimist says “yes it can!”
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Their defense is on the field half the time. I forget where I read it, but Mark Sanchez was listed as one of the quarterbacks who had the lowest bad pass to interception ratio, meaning he got lucky and people dropped a lot of picks. Statistically I think we have to assume he doesn’t get quite so lucky this year, and end up with a lot more picks. Those picks provide great field position, and then the Jets defense becomes almost irrelevant. Theycould be beat with field goals alone.
/wishful thinking
But lucky
He left a lot of interceptions on the field last year
Yeah
and lucky that the run game was better than they can count for again, their offense might be really bad this year.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 2:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
Now how do we get this crucial information to Scrabble in time to inform his decision making process?
I like to think
that the Jets are just full of shit about going hard after him, if they lose Holmes and Braylon and LT doesn’t have another fluke year of production left in him, they could easily have one of the worst offenses in the NFL.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 2:11 AM CDT up reply actions
No he's not
At least Rex could have games where he threw in excess of 250-350 yds every once in a while. Sanchez is not Grossman by a longshot
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jul 27, 2011 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions
honestly I'm not to bummed about Jacoby.
I’d rather have someone else but for a slot guy he’s not bad by any means. I could go down the roster of every team in the NFL and i bet 60%+ of the teams have worse receivers pencilled into the slot roll. I think I read above it was 10 mil over 3 years? that’s not money to bitch about. thats just a hair over what I woulda paid if I was the GM.
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Jul 27, 2011 2:05 AM CDT reply actions
The way I see it
they were always going to pick someone up at about the same rate if he left anyway so it doesn’t change anything in regard to going after FA’s.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 2:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Only reason to take issue with it...
Is if we lose a bidding was for Scrabble
I look at the
JJ signing as irrelevant to signing Nnamdi, because as i said, we were going to sign someone at about that price for 3rd receiver if he left.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
But it feels better to have a scapegoat waiting in the wings…
Absolutely
I love having someone to blame.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 27, 2011 2:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I just hope we get to see more of Dorin Dickson/Dickerson?
His few shots at the ball looked like he could be Andre Johnson Jr.
=D which I like alot.
I’m also hoping Trindon Holiday stays FAR AWAY From bowling lanes this year ;-).
Was that how he got hurt?
People were mistaking him for a pin?
LOL dunno
I just remember that we heard that he hurt his thumb after going to bowl with Coach Kubiak and others.
by BattleRedFan on Jul 27, 2011 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions
It's time to cut Walter and DA like mentioned above...
Do more TE sets with AJ, JJ, and DD as your 1,2, and 3 guys. A deece #4 will emerge from camp. Someone always does (Tolliver anyone?)
I say cut Okoye, restructure, Schaub and Mario’s deal and offer Scrabble oil company CEO type money. Everyone will love this and I will start to believe in unicorns again.
The Texans front office must do this. If not for the fans, then do it for the sake of Jesus, Snoopy and all the other beloved children’s characters.
"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips
Jets won't land Scrabble, but neither will we
So after being terrified that the jets would land Scrabble, and being disappointed by smithiak(Jacoby 3 years 10 milllion). Only team who can actually afford Nmandhi is Tampa Bay. How can the Jets sign damian woody and santonio holmes and Scrabble. Impossible. Keep living the dream Jets fans. There is no way Tannenbaum lets holmes walk away as he was the only reason jets made the playoffs. You can have all the D you want, buy every CB but you still need to score. Pretty sure Favre debunked the jets a few years ago when he would drop back a step and fake a WR screen only to hand off to AP. I actually wondered why no one did this more on them. Oh yeah and Pancakes, F@@K you and Josh wilson. And Sensabaugh. How much is he going to make if we sign him. Cut JJones, Slaton, Okoye,Forget Sensabaugh and pay all 4 olayers salaries to Scrabble. I can’t sleep because of Smithiak again so I continue to rant………..We better at LEAST get Weddle.
I don't understand why anyone is upset about Jacoby
He is only getting 3 million guaranteed. Thats pretty damn cheap. The Dickerson mancrush is getting beyond ridiculous. I think its obvious that day one was all about resigning your own free agents for the Texans. The fact that Leach was not one of them is telling.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Al Davis
When Al Davis signed Aso for that huge contract i thought he was an idiot. I don’t think any CB in this league should be getting 18-20 million a year. I could see giving him 11.5 to 12 million because that is what Revis gets paid. If he wants more than he can get it elsewhere. It will make me sick to see him land in NY and all but in the end it wouldn’t surprise me because other teams make things happen every year while the Texans squash their nuts and expect me to keep buying what they are selling.
Jacoby's contract
I don’t understand it. We overpaid in my mind. I think we overpaid for Walter too. We have an offensive scheme where we should be able to let some of these guys go and still put up plenty of points. I am a fan of both JJ and KW but looking at their contracts makes me wonder if Smithiak smokes crack.
No kidding
It’s a relatively cheap deal. I’m not sure how people figure we overpaid him.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
here's how this works
If you like the player it’s a good contract. If you don’t it’s a bad deal. No need to look at what other similar players are getting. Screw logic.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
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