Texans Re-Sign Jacoby Jones And Rashad Butler

by riversmccown on Jul 27, 2011 6:40 AM CDT in News

I was a bit worried with the potential of the Texans re-signing Jacoby Jones this offseason. Not because I don't enjoy his presence on Twitter, or because I don't think highly of his abilities, but because Rick Smith hasn't exactly been one to hand out suave contracts to retain players (see: Owen Daniels) of semi-importance or better.

So I was pleasantly surprised to see the terms of the Jones and Rashad Butler deals when I woke up this morning. Three years and $10.5 million for Jones, with $3.5 million of that guaranteed, is probably more than I would've offered him. But that is more because I don't see the point in paying for a dimension this team doesn't use, and not because I don't think Jacoby is probably worth that money on the open market. It's on the lower-end of what I thought he might get from some receiver-desperate team with a love for measurables.

Ditto Butler, who re-signed for two years and $3.8 million, $1.25 million of which is guaranteed. It seemed to be almost a foregone conclusion that the Texans would have to find a new swing tackle with Butler's third round pedigree and his decent-but-not-great stint filling in for Duane Brown last year. Instead, I might even go as far as to call this deal a bargain for Rick Smith. I was worried when I heard about it, that re-signing Butler might be a sign that the Texans were out of the running for the great Nnamdi hunt of 2011, instead funneling their money to the decent-sized contracts it would take to keep their own. Relieved that this did not come to pass...yet.

So here we go, riding with the old guard again. What are your thoughts on da black knights about to be hittin' the Reliant streets again?

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I think Day One was about resigning your own free agents for the Texans

And the fact Leach was not one of them was telling. Nearly all of the big name FAs are still on the market, so all is not without hope. Here’s to kicking off a wild Day Two filled with hope, excitement, and sorrow.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Jul 27, 2011 6:46 AM CDT reply actions

Hasselbeck is now a BE-SF

by TexansPride on Jul 27, 2011 7:29 AM CDT reply actions

Here is the link

Per ESPN

by TexansPride on Jul 27, 2011 7:30 AM CDT up reply actions

Yay!

"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
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by DilloTex on Jul 27, 2011 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions

Yay?

He’s not great by any means, but he undoubtedly makes them a better team. I was really looking forward to getting a shot against Rusty Smith or Locker.

by Nashmeister on Jul 27, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions

Yay, since there's a good chance that they will be without his services after the first time he gets hit...

He only makes them better when he’s actually able to get ON the field.

"In conclusion, I’d like to say that Dicky Justice is an assclown."
"...your in-house hirings on the defensive side suck donkey balls..."
- tehGrindCrusher

by DilloTex on Jul 27, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions

Hooray!

Crawfish for everyone!

Like both deals. Maybe paying a bit of a premium on Jacoby but nothing too outrageous. Now go sign up Nnamdi and Weddle, Ricky.

by DisplacedTexan on Jul 27, 2011 7:30 AM CDT reply actions

Signing Jacoby

Probably takes us out of Plaxico sweepstakes!

by rjg6891 on Jul 27, 2011 7:39 AM CDT reply actions

fine. I prefer Jacoby

in fact, why all the Jacoby hate from people here? I don’t think he’s as bad as people are making him out, and as a #3 we could do a hell of a lot worse

by JBal on Jul 27, 2011 7:42 AM CDT up reply actions

We could also do a hell of a lot better/cheaper

…Dorin Dickerson

by Albiceleste on Jul 27, 2011 7:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Yes, he looked great

on the one pass he has caught

by JBal on Jul 27, 2011 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions

my fault, that would be zero during the season

8 catches in the preseason for under 100 yards. so…move over Jacoby!

by JBal on Jul 27, 2011 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions

Yeah!

That 7th round pick who’s transitioning positions is a scrub!

by DisplacedTexan on Jul 27, 2011 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions

why isnt he?

He’s the Zac Diles of the WR. Worse even because he hasn’t played a down. I really dont get the mancrush.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Jul 27, 2011 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions

.....

Because we drafted him based almost entirely on his physical build? And the idea was to bring him along slowly?

The desire for every player to be an impact player is completely ridiculous. But you’re right. We should write him off after 1 season.

by DisplacedTexan on Jul 27, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions

who said write him off?

I just dont get why everyone is being ridiculous and saying things like let Jacoby go, we have Dickerson, when the guy hasn’t played a down. The mancrush on this site for him dumbfounds me, I think everyone is hung up over a single one handed grab in the preseason. I won’t get excited until he does things repeatedly during real games. Until then he’s just a project in my eyes and not something to bet the farm on. The NFL is filled with stories of late round flyers with good measurables.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Jul 27, 2011 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions

I don't get it either man

Dickerson has done what exactly in the NFL? Yeah, thought so. Just because the dude is big and strong, and made one impressive catch, doesn’t mean squat in the big picture.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Jul 27, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions

Unless he makes those catches every day in practice and is banging on the door...

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Jul 27, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions

We can't count on Dickerson yet

and may never be able too…but I understand the mancrush. Has a freakish set of physical tools. That’s where all the love comes from.

"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds

by papabear on Jul 27, 2011 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions

my point being that people are ready to cut Jacoby for Dickerson

What are they basing that on? He hasn’t shown us anything that indicates he’s a viable replacement, not even in preseason. That’s not to say he never will, but people seem to be making a lot out of him based on very little evidence

by JBal on Jul 27, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Same goes for Holliday

Dude sucked in limited action last year, but somehow people think he’s going to blow it up.

When it comes to either of them, I’ll believe it when Kubiak starts singing their praises.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Jul 27, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions

I disagree on Holliday

He sucked last season and unless he drank from the holy grail, he still sucks. I think people talk about him out of sarcasm.

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Jul 27, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions

Also zero drops!

Realistically though, we’ve given Jacoby a chance (granted he could finally have his “break out” year along with the texans finally having theirs). Like you said, we don’t really know what we have with DD but we know a good bit about Jacoby, so why not roll the dice a bit on the offense while we use the money on defense (still need a cornerback AND a safety, don’t think Nnamdi by himself is gonna cut it…)

by Albiceleste on Jul 27, 2011 8:09 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I did like what Kubiak said a while back though

Sorry no link but I recall him saying something along the lines of: you don’t keep a player as he develops only to let another team benefit from the prime years.

by Albiceleste on Jul 27, 2011 8:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Jacoby has his issues at times

but he’s a better 2b than the majority of the teams have. He’s better than anyone’s 3rd WR.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Jul 27, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions

Can't argue that

But how many 3’s are paid 3.5 mil a year?

by Albiceleste on Jul 27, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions

He's only getting 3mil

guaranteed. Thats the important figure. So if he doesnt pan out, he can easily be released after 1 year.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Jul 27, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions

Agreed

Obviously, I’m jumping to conclusions on the results of Texans FA but the cap hit this year is the one that counts.

by Albiceleste on Jul 27, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions

I think you'd be surprised

Especially since a lot of teams have shifted to a 3WR offense.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jul 27, 2011 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions

Nice user name

[Some sort of Copa America burn here]

by DisplacedTexan on Jul 27, 2011 7:46 AM CDT up reply actions

Ouch a River fan as well?

Condolences!

by DisplacedTexan on Jul 27, 2011 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions

Ya, hasn't been a good year...

Houston sports have been sucking, RP is a joke of a franchise right now (hasn’t paid its players in 4 months now), and Argentina doesn’t know what to do with it’s talent (and lack of in the back line).

I think karma for all my suffering and bleach chugging is the only thing keeping me optimistic about getting Nnamdi or Weddle.

by Albiceleste on Jul 27, 2011 8:14 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions

But hey

38-team battle royale league!

It makes me sad when I hear people say Messi is a “bust” for the national team.

by DisplacedTexan on Jul 27, 2011 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions

No kidding!

As an Argentine, I honestly hate how we treat Messi. Tickets to games here read “Argentina vs. Uruguay” but people see “Messi vs. Uruguay”… It’s bullshit!

If you can read spanish, there’s a pretty good open letter Messi wrote to Argentina fans here:

http://barreracero.net/2011/07/20/carta-de-messi-al-pueblo-argentino/

by Albiceleste on Jul 27, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions

Wow.

Powerful letter from Messi..

by Rocket94 on Jul 27, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions

Ugh.

Strange to say for arguably the best soccer player in the world but… poor guy. He plays his heart out for club and country and everyone just expects him to pull victories out of thin air. Come to Tottenham, Messi! We’ll love you forever!

by DisplacedTexan on Jul 27, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions

Also

That 38-team league shows just how corrupt the AFA is… Could they make it any more obvious that its only about the money???

by Albiceleste on Jul 27, 2011 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions

Nnamdi

So can anyone drop some insight on me about our cap room, and if re-signing JJ and Rashad Butler takes us out of the Nnamdi sweepstakes? Because I won’t be able to take it if we just bumble our way through FA again and pick up no one worth a damn…

by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Jul 27, 2011 7:43 AM CDT reply actions

Not sure even the teams know

There’s all sort of tricks we could use to get him under the cap for this year. We could also sign Mario to an extension and restructure some other contracts. Basically, if we want Nnamdi… I’m fairly certain we can make the numbers work.

by DisplacedTexan on Jul 27, 2011 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions

And if we DON'T want Nnamdi...

everyone in the front office should be lit on fire in front of their respective families.

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by MDC on Jul 27, 2011 7:50 AM CDT up reply actions

Doesn't it feel more likely...

That we resign Vonta instead of signing Asomugha now?

by rjg6891 on Jul 27, 2011 8:00 AM CDT reply actions

Maybe not

Maybe not resigning Vonta is just an excuse to get James Casey on the field to justify drafting him

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 27, 2011 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions

if thats what it takes...

sign me up…

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Jul 27, 2011 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions

Vonta and Asomugha in the same sentence?

by ahem! on Jul 27, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions

I can picture

Kubiak and Smith just sitting on their thumbs right now without the slightest clue on how to lure Nnamdi to Houston. They are so worthless. We are screwed in FA. We might get a second hand safety. Oh, and John McClain is terrible. I can’t wait to hear him wheeze his way through a terrible interview on 610 at 8:30….

by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Jul 27, 2011 8:02 AM CDT reply actions

You must be lost

you were trying to type in http://boards.houstontexans.com/ into your browser.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Jul 27, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions 6 recs

With the GIANT signing bonus that Charles Johnson pulled yesterday

I tend to believe THAT may be the key to landing Nnamdi, we keep our offer to suit our cap space but tack on a breathtaking signing bonus.

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-mitmil22

by theSpaceCityKid on Jul 27, 2011 8:10 AM CDT reply actions

That probably would be the way

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 27, 2011 8:13 AM CDT up reply actions

So loooong term deal, huge signing bonus (proportionally hitting the cap over the contract life)?

I concur.

by ahem! on Jul 27, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions

Media credentials for training camp

My gf just got 2 passes for her and I for the magazine she works for. Wondering if anyone knows what kind of access that actually gets us? Or does it basically just get us in the gates?

by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Jul 27, 2011 8:19 AM CDT reply actions