2011 Free Agent Watch: What Do We Know After Day Three?
by Tim on Jul 28, 2011 11:12 PM CDT
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Print"Quite a bit more than yesterday" would be an understatement. Let's get into it after the jump.
1. Your Houston Texans have signed their CB1. No, it's not Nnamdi Asomugha. It's Johnathan Joseph. While Joseph isn't coming cheap, that's the cost of adding a legitimate impact cornerback via free agency. The Texans may have overpaid, but that's to be expected. Besides, I reckon the money they're giving Joseph is less than what Nnamdi Asomugha gets from his next employer.
2. I don't know whether it was Rick Smith, Bob McNair, or someone else calling the shots, but I'm thrilled that the Texans did not allow themselves to be held hostage by the free agent process any longer. The risk of losing out on Joseph while waiting on Asomugha was too great; the Texans simply couldn't afford not to add one of those two guys. I'm guessing that the Texans tumbled to the conclusion that Asomugha wasn't really interested in coming to Houston and, once that became clear, they moved on. Well played.
3. The Texans aren't done yet. They still need a safety, and they're allegedly in the hunt for Danieal Manning. Dawan Landry and Gerald Sensabaugh are also still out there for the taking as well. And with Matt Turk gone, Daniel Sepulveda's purported upcoming visit becomes even more noteworthy.
4. Management reportedly gave Amobi Okoye and David Anderson permission to seek a trade. If neither one is able to find a new employer, they could very well be cut. I'll miss David Anderson; I always liked him. My feelings on Okoye are well documented (brief synopsis: I think he's been a colossal wee bit of a disappointment), so I won't repeat them here, except to say that I am a bit surprised that the Texans are looking to part ways with him before Wade Phillips got a chance to see him in camp. The fact that the Texans are apparently so willing to move on so soon could well mean that Wade has seen all he needs to see on the tape.
It's been a crazy day, and I'm tired of typing. I'd much rather read what you guys think, so please share your thoughts.
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YA HES A BUM
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
by Rocket94 on Jul 28, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
megan fox is on my to do list tomorrow
I’m on a roll……
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Jul 28, 2011 11:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
lol
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 28, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
What do we know after day three?
we got a top FA CB!
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
JJ is a great pick up. I think his cost was way better than what we would have paid for Nnamdi. As far as Safeties go, I’m not real convinced with any of those guys, but hey…they’re better than our guys now. I remember the day they drafted Okoye. I was working at Circuit City and watching it on our TVs. I threw my clipboard across the room. I don’t regret it. Good riddance.
Hate to hear that we overpaid on JJ...
I like the pickup. I like that we were dictating terms instead of missing out on both JJ and NA by pursuing the better of the two.
That said, I LOVE the pickup as long as it’s JJ+Else, That’s what I’ve hoped for all along, getting two quality starters for the price of Nnamdi.
This^^^^
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
by Christopher H on Jul 28, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions
not rly overpaid.
better than giving weddle same contract (he’s at 8m per, JJ is at 9.5). plus cba created inflated contracts i think
KP
I think its fair
48.75 over 5 years including a 12.75 mil bonus. the bonus shouldn’t count against the cap so 48.75 – 12.75 = 36mil/5yrs = 7.2
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Valid Point
And one I meant to address in the post, but simply forgot.
Nnamdi Asomugha is a better DB than Johnathan Joseph right now. That doesn’t mean Joseph won’t be a better fit for the Texans for any number of reasons (e.g., youth, cost, etc.), but Asomugha was undoubtedly the best CB on the market. As tempting as it is to dismiss Nnamdi in favor of the guy we did sign, it’s nuts to pretend that we got the best CB on the market. We got the second most desirable CB on the market; that’s awfully sweet in its own right, but it ain’t Nnamdi.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
The very fact
that it is forgettable is reason enough to be happy.
by Bobbythegreat on Jul 28, 2011 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Dawan Landry or Daniael Manning
And I am a happy, happy camper. We pulled the trigger when we thought we got the best deal for the player we wanted and we didn’t wait for NA to dictate the FA for CBs. It’s solid, a great move by the FO, and shows they are serious. Just to be mentioned to be a top 3 team for Daniael shows that the FO is aggressive. As of now, I would not be surprised if we hear we signed a Safety sometime tomorrow.
Yep.
If we get Manning or Huff, I’m thrilled as all get out and would go on record as saying the Texans are the team to beat in the South this year. I don’t think K-Jax can do any worse than he did last season, so I’m optimistic he corrects some of his mistakes from his rookie season. I mean, if its true what their saying about McCain (technique), then I gotta believe K-Jax didn’t get the best tuteledge (sp?) either.
"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips
by H-town Fanatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions
On the subject of Jackson, he was basically on an island last year with our abysmal safety play.
Even if Quin is the one playing over the top of Jackson, he should be noticeably better.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
I like Landry
But I dont like his coverage skills. I think Huff plays the pass better than the other available safeties. I’d like to see them trade Amobi and DA for someone like Laron Landry(wash),
The best leftover safeties are:
Gerald Sensabaugh, Michael Huff, Dawan Landry and Daniael Manning.
Huge Omission On My Part
Huff should have been mentioned with Landry, Sensabaugh, and Manning.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Agree with you Tim
gonna miss DA and its his birthday we kinda screwed him he was fun to watch.. just getting overpaid
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
oh yeah
I love that we didnt get played by Namdi and lose out on everybody. even if we don’t sign a safety I feel like this has been the best offseason in club history
I guess Cromartie is still out there,
But I really want a safety signed. I want to see Brandon and Roc out on the field next year.
I want to see that potbelly in Raiders silver
That would just be perfect, I think.
People seem t forget about donte whitner.
he is a SS and i know everybody says he is another pollard, but why not .
Not another Pollard.
He has blazing speed and good range. He just struggles covering tight-ends because of the size issue. He’s another one of those guys who could handle FS or SS; probably a pretty good fit for our defense.
by Nashmeister on Jul 28, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
so we have J.J. Watt, Jacoby Jones, and Jonathan Joseph….we gotts figure out names other than a universal JJ
Front Page Post
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Cause I'm white you don't believe me?
That’s Racist!
by WhiskeyR on Jul 28, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I thought NFL network was about to confirm on the ticker
but it was “Texans have taken the lead in the hunt for Nnamdi”
wait what???
Pancakes took a break from pancakes to report something?
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
What did I say?
We’re getting a safety tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I said I wouldn't be surprised if we had a safety by tomorrow
but damn….. Nice job FO!
"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips
by H-town Fanatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ok... Just a rumor butttt....
Okoye, anderson, and slaton to the browns for sheldon brown…. Possible??
by Carter Liles on Jul 28, 2011 11:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Nvm.
Texted from a friend. His source, 610 radio. I zuddenly dont buy it.
by Carter Liles on Jul 28, 2011 11:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Pretty, decent cb from cleveland.
by Carter Liles on Jul 28, 2011 11:40 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
their actually starting to have a good team
so i would be all for it
by Johnson vs. Finnegan on Jul 28, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
no way!!!
Is this true? Did we really get manning?
And for a potential TOTAL win at Free Agency
LanceZierlein Lance Zierlein
I have a funny feeling that Vontae Leach gets done tomorrow now that other FA pieces are in place.
Maybe not yet
@LanceZierlein Lance Zierlein
Or maybe not on Leach. Several UFA FBs in camp and other FAs available too. I will be on at 6Am to talk Texans on 1560AM tomorrow.
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Fuck yeahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m so excited. I was hoping this would happen tonight!!!
It's like a whole new FO this year, thanks to Wade showing up and teaching them something maybe
1. We make a serious run at Weddle, but SD jumps in and keeps him. Damn good effort!
2. Then we play the rodeo with Nnamdi and J. Joseph and grab Joseph before things hit critical mass. AWESOME SPLASH!
3. Going after safeties now, might have Manning bagged.
4. Kept a good #2 QB in Leinart, plus our swing tackle in Butler and Jacoby “Folgers” Jones.
5. Wrap up our FA’s and Drafted players tomorrow.
Totally pro job by the front office in the draft and FA this year!!!
@4b
Hopefully Trindon comes closer this season. I don’t want to see any more excuses for underperformance at WR now that he’s signed.
I predict at least 8 TD's for Jacoby
Why not – it’s been a great night !
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
¡uʍop-ǝpısdn puɐ ʇno ǝpısuı ʇı uɹnʇ ןןıʍ ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇno ɹǝʎʍɐן ǝɯos 'ʎɐs noʎ ɹǝʌǝʇɐɥʍ ʇɐɥʇ ʇǝq uɐɔ noʎ
by Barryfromtexas on Jul 29, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow
The texans are doing work this offseason. This is the best day of my life lol
All you need to know about Danieal Manning is that he invented the question mark.
"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips
by H-town Fanatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
All seriousness
Manning is a speed guy. He can cover both sides of the field really well and can help out K-Jax a lot on streak routes with Joseph on an island. Quinn, obviously can cover slot receivers with no problems. Basically everything I just said…I said with a massive boner in my pants.
"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips
by H-town Fanatic on Jul 28, 2011 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Great coverage skills
Extremely fast and athletic should be a ball hawk in our D.. not real sure on his tackling ability
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
My question is
what else can we do? What players can we still make a run at??
Now its going to be a Punter
and probably a couple of backups….Still not sure on LEach
Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?
We don't need no stinking punter!
Save the slot for MOAR pass rushers
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
¡uʍop-ǝpısdn puɐ ʇno ǝpısuı ʇı uɹnʇ ןןıʍ ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇno ɹǝʎʍɐן ǝɯos 'ʎɐs noʎ ɹǝʌǝʇɐɥʍ ʇɐɥʇ ʇǝq uɐɔ noʎ
by Barryfromtexas on Jul 29, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Daniel Sepulveda
He’s coming in for a visit on Saturday
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jul 29, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Manning should be our starting SS
We will add a punter and maybe resign leach but overall im a happy camper
No punters!
No punting!
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
¡uʍop-ǝpısdn puɐ ʇno ǝpısuı ʇı uɹnʇ ןןıʍ ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇno ɹǝʎʍɐן ǝɯos 'ʎɐs noʎ ɹǝʌǝʇɐɥʍ ʇɐɥʇ ʇǝq uɐɔ noʎ
by Barryfromtexas on Jul 29, 2011 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
If we don't need him for field goals - True
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
¡uʍop-ǝpısdn puɐ ʇno ǝpısuı ʇı uɹnʇ ןןıʍ ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇno ɹǝʎʍɐן ǝɯos 'ʎɐs noʎ ɹǝʌǝʇɐɥʍ ʇɐɥʇ ʇǝq uɐɔ noʎ
by Barryfromtexas on Jul 29, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Pro football focus had Daniel Manning
Ranked 5th among safeties as far as covering ability in 2010. I like!!
Nope. We are going to run mostly cover 2 which is what the Bears run.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
More of a Man Cover 2
2 safeties over the top with man coverage underneath
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Jul 29, 2011 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
"Care for another hand bitches? I still need a Punter you know."
“The name is McNair…..Bob McNair”
by MeMongo on Jul 29, 2011 12:06 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Punter? We don't need no stinking punters!
We ain’t punting this year!
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
¡uʍop-ǝpısdn puɐ ʇno ǝpısuı ʇı uɹnʇ ןןıʍ ǝɹǝɥʇ ʇno ɹǝʎʍɐן ǝɯos 'ʎɐs noʎ ɹǝʌǝʇɐɥʍ ʇɐɥʇ ʇǝq uɐɔ noʎ
by Barryfromtexas on Jul 29, 2011 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
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