JJ Watt Signs: All Texans 2011 Draft Choices Under Contract

11 all guranteed?

Little steep mabye?

by Carter Liles on Jul 31, 2011 2:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

It's all slotted now

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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 31, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions

Meaning?

by Carter Liles on Jul 31, 2011 2:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

They're paid according to where they were chosen.

With very little negotiating room, for either party.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions

It's been asked already on PFT...

Anyone think fully-guarantee rookie contracts lead to fully-guaranteed vet contracts?

I hope not because in my opinion fully guaranteed contracts are a big part of why the NBA is about to get outsourced to Europe.

"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."

by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 31, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought NFL Europe went out of business? ;)

Actually, no. I believe this frees up money for deserving vets.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions

Not gonna happen

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions

Does anyone have more info on the rookie deals?

Is it for just one year? How is it “slotted” ? ETC

by MeMongo on Jul 31, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions

All look to be 4 year deals with an option for a 5th year, all money guaranteed

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions

However, the money isn't as ridiculous as past years

Cam Newton only got $22M compared to Bradford’s absurd contract (6 year, $78 million, $50 million guaranteed)

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought only the 1st round pick had a 5th year option

by WhiskeyR on Aug 1, 2011 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions

That probably is the case

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 1, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions

whack-a-mole

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:10 PM CDT reply actions

Guacamole?

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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 31, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

I'd hit it.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Finally!!!

Alright boys lets get to work!!!

by TexansForLife on Jul 31, 2011 2:11 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

Hmmm. I wish we would have drafted Julio.

You know. To take pressure off Andre.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:12 PM CDT reply actions

I think Andre's got it pretty easy with the offense in it's current state.

Besides it would take quite some time before Julio was at a point where he could legitimately take pressure off Andre.

We needed a JJ Watt though and he is going to contribute immediately.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions

j/k... I'm with you, actually.

I’ve been watching this system turn unheralded prospects into productive offensive weapons for years. And not just here, in Houston.

I’m very confident in our WR corps. I would like to see a better mid range and deep ball out of Schaub this year… but then again, I’m sure we’ll have no trouble passing the ball all around the field like a doob.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions

We didn't really have a chance.

Unless you wanted to give up the ransom that Atlanta did. And I’m cool with not doing that.

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by riversmccown on Jul 31, 2011 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions

even if he fell to #11

there was never any chance…

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions

why are you trying so hard to find something to complain about

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Jul 31, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions

lets get Warren!!!

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 2:14 PM CDT reply actions

I agree

Warren would be the feather in the cap of free agency.. But i dont see that happening i think if was going to happen it would have already

by TexansForLife on Jul 31, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions

I thought we had agreed to call Pancakes 'Double Stacked'....

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Jul 31, 2011 2:16 PM CDT reply actions

Warren

I think would already be here if Jerruh wasnt in the mix. He would be great for the on field coaching he is a proven vet

by TEXANSNUTT on Jul 31, 2011 2:28 PM CDT reply actions

Think about it

go to a team that’s been making all the right moves or a team that just got worse?

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions

I hope

that you are right we could use the experienced depth

by TexansForLife on Jul 31, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions

I haven't heard anything about either the Cowboys or Texans pursuing him.

HE said he’d like to come back to Texas and play for either team.

He visited the Broncos Saturday but that’s all I’ve heard on him.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

So does anyone here have a clue how much cap room we have left.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 2:29 PM CDT reply actions

Not much.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions

maybe a Mil?

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions

atleast 5 million

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions

bold statement

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions

I know we can go over the cap, by about 3 mil (I believe).

So there could end up being plenty of room, if we choose to go that direction.

Why? Who ya got?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Franklin

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions

any d-line help

cause if somebody gets hurt we in trouble and i really dont want to bring mario from is OLB postion back down.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions

We need depth

At outside linebacker and d-line

by BRTexan on Jul 31, 2011 3:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

OLB we have reed and anderson right?D-line we have small guys

in bulman and jamison

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions

And Nading

Not gonna wow anyone, but he is quite serviceable

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Anderson isn't under contract right now

But I think they’ll find a way to re-sign him

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions

can't argue with Franklin, if they decide to agree to it

But I think we’re actually looking set on the line. Watt/Mitchell/Smith are the projected starters.

Barwin and Mario play DE in nickel situations.

Damione Lewis is older, but should be a very competent NT/DT.

Shaun Cody can swingman from DE to DT; any spot on the line. Same with Antonio and Watt.

I’m wondering, could we save cap space, by cutting Antonio? Would we prefer an addition Ty Warren, or Franklin, to keeping Antonio Smith?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Besides some dumb penalties Smith has been good for us

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Agreed.

But that wasn’t the question…

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions

I think we can get Warren

W/O cutting Smith

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions

OK

Would you prefer Ty or Aubrayo?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

I don't know those guys well enough

I know more about TY – that is the only reason I would pick him

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions

By cutting Antonio though

We would be cutting the only lineman we have that has played in a 3-4 before. I think the experience situation there is bad enough without making it worse

"A threat is about a verb short of a win..." - TEXSON

by JBal on Jul 31, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions

of course, I was suggesting we cut Antonio to sign a 3-4 DL upgrade

I’m not sure how that makes us any worse.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions

the more guys we have that played a 3-4 in the past the better

by TEXANSNUTT on Jul 31, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions

Ideally.

But one is still not greater than one.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions

I stand by my misstatement

"A threat is about a verb short of a win..." - TEXSON

by JBal on Jul 31, 2011 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions

So, you'd prefer Antonio, to Franklin or Warren?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions

all 3

by TEXANSNUTT on Jul 31, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions

True, that would be an effective 3 man DL.

And I hear that Franklin is a stud NT.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd probably take Franklin, but he's not an end, he's a tackle.

Then who plays at end? Some position gets downgraded in either scenario. Warren I wouldn’t trade for Antonio, simply because the Pats (though not my favorite team) seem to have a knack for knowing when to get rid of players, and I’d question whether Warren would be an upgrade for us.

"A threat is about a verb short of a win..." - TEXSON

by JBal on Jul 31, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions

I think if we landed an all-world NT like Franklin...

Mitchell would end up playing DT in the Nickel sets only, plus plenty of rotational DE

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions

True. Like I said, I'd take him.

I’ve already shot my wad though, so the thought of any further upgrades just makes me feel tired, no longer excited.

"A threat is about a verb short of a win..." - TEXSON

by JBal on Jul 31, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions

Bleach withdrawals? Already?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions

no...just...uh...

let’s say got “overly excited” at the Joseph and Manning signings. And now I’m just sleepy, haha

"A threat is about a verb short of a win..." - TEXSON

by JBal on Jul 31, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions

and BTW, when I said "my misstatement"

I was more or less making fun of myself for misreading your earlier comment anyway

"A threat is about a verb short of a win..." - TEXSON

by JBal on Jul 31, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

understood

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Apparently so.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm excited to hear what the coaches think of our rookies tomorrow

Also it will be interesting to find out what kind of shape everyone is in after missing OTAs and Mini-Camp. Hopefully most our players practiced with Schaub and kept themselves in top shape.

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 2:32 PM CDT reply actions

from some guy on twitter

I believe this qualifies as a news update: Albert Haynesworth is mauling Patriots OLs, specifically Rich Ohrnberger

let the knob slobbing begin….

by TEXANSNUTT on Jul 31, 2011 2:33 PM CDT reply actions

I thought he didn't pass his physical

So how is he practicing?

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Report came out this morning that he passed it

Karate? The Dane Cook of martial arts?

by Rocket94 on Jul 31, 2011 3:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

I guess Belichick will be the Madden of the 21st century

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions

Am I the only one who thinks this is a display of how overrated the Patriots line is?

"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."

by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 31, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions

yes

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. the Astros have gotten back into my good graces so theyre allowed back into the elite club... GO 'STROS, 2011 NL Central Division Champs!! you heard it hear first!

by HB23 on Jul 31, 2011 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Im interested in seeing how many injuries the unsupervised practices caused

by TexansForLife on Jul 31, 2011 2:33 PM CDT reply actions

I'm sure those workouts were non-contact.

So few, if any.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I hope so..

We will see after the first day of practice when all the injuries people have been hiding come out.. Curious about how many there will be league wide

by TexansForLife on Jul 31, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Here's an idea

How about next offseason he plays for the astros, he could probably start.

by BRTexan on Jul 31, 2011 2:43 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

Nah

Ed Wade will trade him for peanuts.

"Don't let anybody tell you McDonald's is bad. That movie Supersize Me? Man, please, that's a movie - it's not realistic" - Chad Johnson

by RocketsAstros on Jul 31, 2011 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Too true

But they would always put a positive spin on it, and Wade will be gone anyway.

by BRTexan on Jul 31, 2011 3:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Nick Scurfield
The Texans have re-signed free agents Arian Foster, Mike Brisiel, Rashad Butler, Matt Leinart, Damione Lewis and Kasey Studdard

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:12 PM CDT reply actions

Nick Scurfield
The Texans have re-signed free agents Arian Foster, Mike Brisiel, Rashad Butler, Matt Leinart, Damione Lewis and Kasey Studdard

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:12 PM CDT reply actions

Ou'd by Southpaw

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions

o damn i really did do it twice my first time lol

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

TWSS

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Foster???

How was he a free agent??

by TexansForLife on Jul 31, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions

exclusive rights

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions

What southpaw70 said

Foster was an ERFA: Exclusive Rights Free Agent

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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh

Wonder what kind of contract he got

by TexansForLife on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions

probaly min

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions

1-year

Most likely $480K, or the minimum for his tenure.

Yes, really.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 31, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions

guess that is why Arian keep giving props to his O-lineman...

Cause they all make more then him.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Can't we force him to play for the minimum next year too?

I wish they’d find a way to give him some cash though. He has certainly earned it.

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

He will more than make up for it

with his upcoming monstrous contract next year (hopefully with the Texans)

"Don't let anybody tell you McDonald's is bad. That movie Supersize Me? Man, please, that's a movie - it's not realistic" - Chad Johnson

by RocketsAstros on Jul 31, 2011 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions

hopefully

but with all these big contracts not including if we sign vonta and having to pay mario this year or next offseason, someone vital to this team isnt getting re-signed

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. the Astros have gotten back into my good graces so theyre allowed back into the elite club... GO 'STROS, 2011 NL Central Division Champs!! you heard it hear first!

by HB23 on Jul 31, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions

I know

I am dreading that :(

"Don't let anybody tell you McDonald's is bad. That movie Supersize Me? Man, please, that's a movie - it's not realistic" - Chad Johnson

by RocketsAstros on Aug 1, 2011 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions

I think so

We do need to pay him at some point. Just look at Chris Johnson.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 31, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions

I think it's best to get it out of the way now

Make his contract cap friendly, but load it with incentive bonuses

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions

I would prefer NOT to

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions

And what the hell is that supposed to be?

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions

BFD Said

Just look at Chris Johnson.

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Pic didn't show

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Ah OK

For some reason it shows on mine

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions

BRB is protecting us from the hideous glare of his grill

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions

It is better that way

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I wish we would have renegotiated Mario's contract

We could hve gotten both him and Foster locked up.

I know Mario is playing a new position and we have a glaring history of one year wonderbacks, but I’d rather assume that the worst-case scenario here is an Antonio Smith-esque “meh” performance with long term deals as opposed to losing either one of these guys in 2012 free agency.

"Kareem Jackson doesn't own a toaster. He just sets the bread on the table and starts backpedaling."

by pholmesandhtexans on Jul 31, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions

I too was hoping

they took care of Foster now. I’m assuming they are waiting to see how Mario transitions to OLB. Unfortunately I think it’s a mistake, he will transition just fine and will cost us more later. but im not the expert

by TEXANSNUTT on Jul 31, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions

NO ONE

is an expert

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. the Astros have gotten back into my good graces so theyre allowed back into the elite club... GO 'STROS, 2011 NL Central Division Champs!! you heard it hear first!

by HB23 on Jul 31, 2011 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions

We can still franchise Mario after the season and Arian's got another year left

"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett

by Drill Sarge on Jul 31, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions

We can still do that this week.

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions

yes but the worst kind of free agent a player can be

Exclusive rights free agent he could only play in Houston or not play at all. At least that’s what I’ve been told.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions

good thing for us then huh?

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions

pretty much.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 3:20 PM CDT up reply actions

going to be alot of money spent next year or lost depends how you look at it.

If mario is gone there will be alot of money to get atleast 2 free agents. But lets not worry about next year already.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions

I WISH THE TEXANS WOULD MAKE A MOVE

HIRE THE BUMS!

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by Jon Banks on Jul 31, 2011 3:24 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Soon reaching into dead horse status

But, sheesh, I couldn’t handle it anymore.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jul 31, 2011 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions

It still makes me laugh.

And frankly, that’s all that matters to me.

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by Jon Banks on Jul 31, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Interesting...

John McClain
by RavensInsider
Former Pats DE Ty Warren is headed to Houston to visit with the Texans. He’s visiting with the Broncos today.

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by Jon Banks on Jul 31, 2011 3:25 PM CDT reply actions

Height: 6-5 Weight: 300

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by Jon Banks on Jul 31, 2011 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions

lets make it happen Rick

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions

good

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions

Who is

going to block for Arian Foster now?

I’m not sold on Thor being that good of a blocker yet.

I'm the best there is at what I do.

by xmant2000 on Jul 31, 2011 3:27 PM CDT reply actions

everyone

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Don't have a clue hopefully they have someone in mind

Maybe Thor will be good enough to have a decent impact on our running game.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions

Hopefully John Kuhn!

by FLASH94 on Jul 31, 2011 3:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions

Re-signed with the Packers.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions

SB just reported that it was a sign-and-trade.

Packers get Slaton…

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Serious

or joke?

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

joke

hence the ‘SB’

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Ah okay wasn't sure what SB was.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks for claifying, Sounded like a wi-win to me.

just not sure what GB’s needs are for a RB.

by chuckiepoo on Jul 31, 2011 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions

Glancing over at the Packer blog they made him the highest paid FB in the league.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

I'll guarantee... it isn't Slaton.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions

The offensive line?

by Nashmeister on Jul 31, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions

yeah while I love Leach

the fact remains that most of Foster’s biggest gains on the field were during play action dumps, or zone blocking sets from the O’ Line (not Leach).

by MeMongo on Jul 31, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Zac Pauga from Colorado State of course

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

This

^^^^^

by knave64 on Jul 31, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions

Ty Warren fans.

Former Pats DE Ty Warren is headed to Houston to visit with the Texans. He’s visiting with the Broncos today. [via Twitter]

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 3:27 PM CDT reply actions

I'd settle for Warren.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions

I think he makes the team and they cut Cody down the preseason road.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions

good point

but cody was our best d-lineman tackler.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah but if Warren is healthy he's better than any of our current DT's IMO.

And they are still going to be high on Mitchell’s youth and upside.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Warren isn't a nose tackle.

He’d certainly be a nice back-up for both 3-4 DE positions, though.

by Nashmeister on Jul 31, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm not so sure he'd be a back up

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions

He may be recovered from his hip injury, but

Im sure he’s not in football shape because of the amount of rest required for his injury. I think he would be a great mentor for JJ Watt and rotate in as necessary. I think we’ll carry 7 dlineman on the 53 and right now Watt, Smith, Mitchell, Cody and Bullman are the only real pros I see on the team. Still some moves to make…

"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett

by Drill Sarge on Jul 31, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions

no love for Lewis?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions

I forgot Lewis

he’s definitely better than Bullman and I think Jamison may have a chance too, but I don’t think he’s a good 3-4 fit

"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett

by Drill Sarge on Jul 31, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions

we forget alot of people already.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions

So, Sarge...

What do you believe is our biggest DL need?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions

I think we could use two big DE vets

i think there is a “sweet spot” for size of a 5 tech in a 3-4. Usually about 6-5 290-300. You don’t necessarily have to be as fast as a 4-3 end, but you have to be quick AND hold up against tackles and guards. Watt and Antonio are perfect for this and Lewis is good but a little old. Warren would be great if healthy. One player who was cut , but could be a good 3-4 de is jamaal Anderson of the falcons. He’s 6-6 290 and was miscast as a 4-3 end. I think he could step right in and play well for us. Basically if I had my wish i would sign these two players, and also re-sign Mark Anderson to back up Mario. That would finish up the moves on the defensive side of the ball.

"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett

by Drill Sarge on Jul 31, 2011 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Very thorough insights and evaluations. Thanks.

by Cut Block on Aug 1, 2011 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions

But we don't have a NT now

at 6-5 300lbs I’ll take it.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Lewis can handle NT, and I'll put money on Mitchell being effective as well

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions

There are a lot of 300 pounders in this league.

And most of them aren’t cut out to play nose tackle.

If you have somebody like Ratliff on the roster, you make due and give him a shot at the position. But you certainly don’t go out of your way to spend a few million bucks and put a square peg in a round hole.

by Nashmeister on Jul 31, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions

Warren is willing to take the Vet Min

as Rivers pointed out to me that “vet minimum is higher than younger mins. Still a decent commitment for a guy that might not add much.”

I think at least hes worth a shot.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd still like to have him here

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Cowboys sign Warren

FRANK Warren

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Jerrah working to make us flinch...

by chuckiepoo on Jul 31, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions

Well, they do have to find a LOT of cheap players

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Nice to see Butler finally signed. Brisel too.

Lookin’ good on OL.

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 3:33 PM CDT reply actions

HoustonFootball Houston Texans
RT @McClain_on_NFL: Former Pats DE Ty Warren is headed to Houston to visit with the #Texans. He’s visiting with the #Broncos today.

by TEXANSNUTT on Jul 31, 2011 3:57 PM CDT reply actions

Now that Leach is gone...

Any chance we take a look at LeRon McClain. He’s a big bruising fullback similar to Leach and he was a pro bowler just a few years ago. Not sure how he would fit in the zone blocking scheme…but he might be worth taking a chance on

by CDubLDD on Jul 31, 2011 3:58 PM CDT reply actions

His price will be close to Vonta's.

Besides he wants to run the ball a lot (main reason he’s not a Raven right now) and we won’t do that with him when we have Tate, Ward, Foster.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Thanks for the shoutout BFD on front page.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions

McClain_on_NFLJohn McClain
Former Browns FB Lawrence Vickers says his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, is talking to the Texans. They need to replace Vonta Leach.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:09 PM CDT reply actions

Also a fellow Texan

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Would love to see Brian Vickers here!!!

He was a beast at Colorado. Then had the unfortunate pleasure of being drafted by Cleveland where they didn’t use all of his talent

by CDubLDD on Jul 31, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions

"@McClain_on_NFL: Vickers is 6-0, 255. He’s 28. He’s a lead blocker in the Vonta Leach mold. Texans need a veteran. TE James Casey gets first shot at the job."

by CDubLDD on Jul 31, 2011 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions

We don't

“need” to replace Vonta Leach, that is a common misconception, I think that Thor would do fine, of course it is a nice luxury if we find a vet that wants to come here though.

by Bobbythegreat on Jul 31, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions

If Casey doesn't work out we'll need someone who can play the position.

We may not “need” to RIGHT now sign a FB but I’m not going to assume 6-3 Casey will slide right into the lead blocker role and be effective.Having a guy who’s already played the position is important so he can step in and start if Casey doesn’t cut it.

And apparently the Texans offensive coaches feel the same.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions

I'm fine with Vickers at FB

but his lawyer has to stay off the field. NO MORE ROSENCOPTERS!!!

by MeMongo on Jul 31, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions

I think

the FO was putting in all efforts to retain Leach. Now that he was signed they know what they have to work with. I’m hoping we do a couple things today now that the rookies are signed and Vonta is off the market

by TEXANSNUTT on Jul 31, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions

My day will

be complete when I find out Cromartie gave the Jets the finger and signs with the Raiders or Niners.

by Bobbythegreat on Jul 31, 2011 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs

for real had to rec cause i really lol.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Got to love it.

ClaytonESPN: As part of the Jets hectic pace on getting Antonio Cromartie under contract, they are calling around on trades to clear cap room.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions

How much does Sanchez make, anyway?

And who, in their right minds, would be interested?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Go Cro Go!

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions

Fuck them from the inside, Cro

I heard you’re good at that…

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Bareback anyways

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions

Antonio Cromartie

The Alpha Raw Dog Assassin

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions

So after the slobberfest the media had with them

They’re totally screwing up Free Agency. Just Epic.

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Working on a contract for Vickers right now

Nice!

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 4:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions

We move fast

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by Antho10000 on Jul 31, 2011 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions

Can he block?

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by oiler-texan diehard on Jul 31, 2011 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions

definitely

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions

yes he can

how do you think big o white boy got on cover of madden this year. sorry forgot his name

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions

peyton Hillis

by chuckiepoo on Jul 31, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions

yea him thanks chuck

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions

peyton hillis

i know this becuz my friend from denver cried like a baby when he was traded to cleveland

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. the Astros have gotten back into my good graces so theyre allowed back into the elite club... GO 'STROS, 2011 NL Central Division Champs!! you heard it hear first!

by HB23 on Jul 31, 2011 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions

damn skippy

by Cut Block on Aug 1, 2011 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions

Vickers is an excellent blocker

He’s helped Jamaal Lewis rush for 1300+ yards and got Peyton Hillis on the front of Madden. Not a huge drop off from Vonta & he’ll cost about half as much.

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions

PAY HIM!!!

by chuckiepoo on Jul 31, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions

I'll take it.

Make it happen Rick.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions

I think it will

Grew up in Beaumont and his agent called us (Rosenhaus). Several sources say they’re working on a contract right now.

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions

Can I see one

not doubting just would love to see it

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions

Sure

TonyGrossi Ex-#Browns FB Lawrence Vickers now talking to hometown Houston #Texans.

@AlanBurge: #Texans and #Browns free agent FB Lawrence Vickers in contract talks as we speak.

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions

BTW, Tony Grossi is the Browns beat writer

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions

pretty much every football player in the league hometown is houston

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. the Astros have gotten back into my good graces so theyre allowed back into the elite club... GO 'STROS, 2011 NL Central Division Champs!! you heard it hear first!

by HB23 on Jul 31, 2011 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions

One more

As expected the #Texans are working with FA vet Fullbacks. Lawrence Vickers is being rumored. Not a huge decline from Leach, half the price

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions

This is good

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions

So we're switching from Coke to Sprite?

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Or is he more like a Coke Zero

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions

sprite is coke

but Vickers could be Dr.pepper.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions

how about vick vapor rub?

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions

That is saved for VY

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions

thought it was KY for VY?

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions

literally lol'd

never heard that one

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. the Astros have gotten back into my good graces so theyre allowed back into the elite club... GO 'STROS, 2011 NL Central Division Champs!! you heard it hear first!

by HB23 on Jul 31, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions

I think Dr. pepper is about right.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions

We have got a lot of Texas natives coming to the team.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions

And that's never a bad thing

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 1, 2011 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions

you should know Cut Block

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are OVERDUE to get to the playoffs, much less the big big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Jul 31, 2011 4:35 PM CDT reply actions

who knows Cut Block?

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions

just sayin your name implies (on a humorous level of course) that you would know about blocking

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are OVERDUE to get to the playoffs, much less the big big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Jul 31, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions

forgot to select reply, so it did not make sense. It may still not make sense

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are OVERDUE to get to the playoffs, much less the big big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Jul 31, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions

Indeed.

I love offensive line play. LOVE.

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Oh for sure he does.

Big middle finger to the browns, rumor is he hasn’t been happy in Cleveland. He is very good at the main thing Vonta was so good at. Hitting hard.

:|

by IMTHEICEMAN on Jul 31, 2011 4:39 PM CDT reply actions

CLE drafted a FB in the 4th round

I’d be pissed, too.

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions

Not sure if y'all have the punter we picked from rookie free agency

Kid has a monster leg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dP9QPFTW6c&feature=youtube_gdata

by CDubLDD on Jul 31, 2011 4:41 PM CDT reply actions

Seen*

by CDubLDD on Jul 31, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Monster leg isn't the key

Punting it precisely inside the 20 is more important

Then again – I say forget punting – Just say no

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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions

Burn the witch!

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions

Anyone else notice?

Hartmann played TE in high school.

This is getting rediculous.

by Calvin Paquette on Jul 31, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions

OCD much Kubiak???

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions

I pick monster leg

over shanking the ball out of bounds after it goes 15 yards like we had last year.

by Bobbythegreat on Jul 31, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions

He can kick off as well

Monster leg = a ton of touchbacks

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by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Doesn't matter now

didn’t they move the kickoff line

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah I remember reading about that

Supposedly less kick returns = less injuries. That’s why they implemented it.

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by RocketsAstros on Jul 31, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions

Just noticed something.

The picture of Brandon Williams (the CBSsports.com Rapid reports guy for the Texans) must have been taken only a couple of days ago. he looks so happy to be covering the Texans
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/rapid-reports/team/HOU

:|

by IMTHEICEMAN on Jul 31, 2011 4:44 PM CDT reply actions

PPL VICKERS MIGHT BE COMING TO HOUSTON

Yes i know lay off the caps lock, but seriously vickers is a beast. ill take him over leron mcclain. please sign this guy!!!!!! He s been my madden fb every time i start a franchise.

by Jibska on Jul 31, 2011 5:01 PM CDT reply actions

wow i was behind in my excitement as others have already gotten the vickers to houston train rollin...

by Jibska on Jul 31, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions

yea you late lol

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions

i feel shame.....but I'm about to rewatch week 1 vs colts so I also feel a huge smile coming on

by Jibska on Jul 31, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions

good one to watch

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions

they say vickers had a terrible year last yr

by FU Nnamdi on Jul 31, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions

they say vickers had a terrible year last yr

by FU Nnamdi on Jul 31, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions

dOUbly bad year?

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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions

That's a BAAAD year

by Calvin Paquette on Jul 31, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions

whos got the pro football focus stats??

by Jibska on Jul 31, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions

I am not sure they count KFOs

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by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions

Our friends at Dawgs by Nature liked him

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2011/5/7/2159970/cleveland-browns-free-agent-review-fb-lawrence-vickers

I’ll usually go for what fans of the team say over national reporters. They want him back

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions

who says that?

i mean he did get somebody on madden.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions

rotoworld

by FU Nnamdi on Jul 31, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions

hmmmm well forget them

they heard we was about to hire him and they trying to say bad things about him.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

like this one:

With Vickers at FB, Jamal Lewis twice ran for 1000, Harrison ran for 800+ in a handful of starts, and Hillis ran for 1000. Prior to Vickers we got one 1000 yard season from Droughns, and then you have to go all the way back to 1985 to find another thousand yard Browns rusher (Mack and Byner that year).

We’ve had 4 1000 yard rushers in the 25 years since Mack and Byner both eclipsed the mark, and three of them have had Vickers as a lead blocker.

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

vickers = pimp

by Jibska on Jul 31, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions

yep thats the last time i beleive roto...well played

by FU Nnamdi on Jul 31, 2011 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions

Learning experience

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Well, for example

Everyone in the national media thought Dunta was a “shutdown corner” except us. I always listen to the people who watch every game over media types who see them once in a few years and base their whole opinion off of that.

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions

Truth.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, that's why BRB is the best place to go to find the truth about Mr McNair's team

Better than the Texans web site

It took the Astros 44 years to get to the Series, the Oilers-Texans are OVERDUE to get to the playoffs, much less the big big dance...Go Texans!!!!!

by oiler-texan diehard on Jul 31, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions

Came here to see what you guys were saying about Vickers and find myself quoted twice!

Vickers is indeed a beast of a fullback. Big and fast for a fullback, and one of those guys that is all in. 100% whistle to whistle.

What’s more, last year he had to take on a reduced role due to problems at Right Tackle (Jon St. Clair) and you never heard a single complaint. A consummate team player.

It was reported in 2009 that it was Vickers who finally bought in to Eric Mangini’s system and drug the rest of the offense with him. The Browns ended that year on a four game win streak in which Jerome Harrison (who? Exactly) ran for 900 yards behind Vickers with out any help from the passing game (31 completions in 4 games. No kidding).

Vickers would be a huge pick-up for you guys. I like the Texans a lot and would love to see him out in front of Arian Foster.

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by golanbatrac on Jul 31, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions

Didn't Harrison cash in that performance for a nice contract elsewhere?

Sounds like music to the ears of Arian Foster’s agent

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Harrison bitched and moaned after Hillis started getting all the carries. Traded to Eagles for Mike Bell. Don’t know if he’s cashed in since.

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by golanbatrac on Jul 31, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions

Probably not then

especially with the money they just threw at Nnamdi. Funny how Hillis was just a throw in on the trade for Brady Quinn. Absolute steal. Bet Denver regrets that now

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions

I’m betting Denver regrets just about everything Josh McDaniels ever did.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jul 31, 2011 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Except the Cutler trade for Orton

However he puts them in a tough spot with Tebow on the roster

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Don"t you want him back?

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Yes, but it’s not about to happen. Holmgren and Co. are cleaning house. Vickers made no secret of his respect and admiration for Mangini after Mangini was fired. Sealed his own fate.

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by golanbatrac on Jul 31, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions

so we can haz?

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Yup. Looks that way.

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by golanbatrac on Jul 31, 2011 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions

when do they have the supplement draft?

just wondering not like it matters.

by southpaw70 on Jul 31, 2011 5:06 PM CDT reply actions

I believe no date has been set, as of now...

by Cut Block on Jul 31, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions

lol...nah i dnt kno what happen. i had read he had a bad yr last yr

by FU Nnamdi on Jul 31, 2011 5:12 PM CDT reply actions

bad year cause the cinci offense sucked. not his fault id say. they were in 3 and 4 wr sets alot . not really utilizing the running game

by Jibska on Jul 31, 2011 5:14 PM CDT reply actions

clev. u mean??

by FU Nnamdi on Jul 31, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions

ah yes the two terrible C teams in that division mash together into one awesome pile of garbage

that i cant often remember which is which

by Jibska on Jul 31, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions

It is nice to see the universality of these threads across SBNation

Yes please bring back my favorite Brown.
The thought of losing Vickers makes me a saaaaad panda.

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:19 PM CDT reply actions

Where'd you find that one?

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions

Nevermind.

Just saw it.

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Pandas on all blogs?

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions

Good read if y'all get a chance

http://www.houstondiehards.com/?p=11425

by CDubLDD on Jul 31, 2011 5:21 PM CDT reply actions

Spamming us?

:P

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions

GoogleChrome?

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Jul 31, 2011 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions

OOOooooo

Even Worser

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"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions

Chris knows about it

He thought he had it fixed. Guess not.

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by Mike Kerns on Jul 31, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions

My bad. I didn't know...I'm on an iPad so it doesn't give me any notifications

by CDubLDD on Jul 31, 2011 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions

You know the reason?

Probably some ad stuff

If so I will go

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions

No, it's a problem with Google Chrome

The site is still fine if you can get around the warning

by ~Buck on Jul 31, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions

My bad. I didn't know...I'm on an iPad so it doesn't give me any notifications

by CDubLDD on Jul 31, 2011 5:24 PM CDT reply actions

Whoa...

David Carr is taking Sage Rosenfels job away from the Giants. That’s hilarious.

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 5:24 PM CDT reply actions

Ha he's been a Giant before.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions

Source

Link

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions

OOOooo

That means a possibility of a Carr vs VY game

Slim I know, but still …

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions

I'd put my money on Mittens

May have no heart, but his body is tough, & more mentally stable than VY

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

one thing you can say about ol dave

is hes tough as nails, maybe the toughest ever after the amount of hits hes taken.. maybe more than favre?

Rockets-Texans-Dynamo-Longhorn fan.. the Astros have gotten back into my good graces so theyre allowed back into the elite club... GO 'STROS, 2011 NL Central Division Champs!! you heard it hear first!

by HB23 on Jul 31, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions

Now if we can work in a Randy Moss reference

We can get on BSPN or the NFLN

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sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou

by Barryfromtexas on Jul 31, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions

"eh you know, sometimes I'm thinking....what did these cows ever do to me"

snort flinch sniff head cock left hook BLAST!!

“But you know, it’s like that guy David Carr fella…he’s just hanging in there like a slab of meat and getting his licks….kinda like these cows. Sometimes things just fit good together and someone has to be the meat. Yo Adrian!!”

by MeMongo on Jul 31, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions

I would watch such a game with much interest

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions

Anyone left on the Bungles we can plunder?

I think they are one or two more FA catastrophes from rioting and marching on Mike Brown’s home.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

by TexansForever on Jul 31, 2011 5:33 PM CDT reply actions

bahaha yeah dont they need to reach cap floor and they keep letting ppl go

i see a extremely overpaid player on horizon

by Jibska on Jul 31, 2011 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions

Actually I don't think that rule applies to this year.

As far as teams being required to spend 90% of their cap space or whatever.

No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.

by Ethan Matz on Jul 31, 2011 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions

i think it does, ist like 94% this year (something close to that)

and then it will bump up to like 98% next year

by Johnson vs. Finnegan on Jul 31, 2011 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions

Not necessarily.

I made this post in what I assume is a dead thread:

From our friends at the Bucs Nation SBN blog.

In summary (from what I understood), this season and next season the minimum salaries are league-wide rather than team-by-team. If the league as a whole fails to meet the 99% average threshold, it seems that the league itself will be forced to pay the difference to the players. As it stands now, there doesn’t seem to be any penalty to the teams if they’re under the floor until 2013.

GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.

by Synchysi on Jul 31, 2011 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions

Kinda just noticed this

The Texans also added 3 more undrafted free agents: DT Scooter Berry (W. Va), LB Matt Marcorelle (Delaware) and DT Guy Miller (Colo. St.)

Really?? They really aren’t kidding when they call Colorado State the “unofficial AAA affiliate of the Houston Texans”

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 5:42 PM CDT reply actions

I can't wait until idiots start using that as a reason for not winning

by WhiskeyR on Jul 31, 2011 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions

Check it out...we made espn.com!!

http://espn.go.com/nfl/

left side middle of page “best of the nfl blogs”

Oh…..nm…….it’s because Kuharksy says our DL sucks.

That explains it.

"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."

by TexansForever on Jul 31, 2011 5:44 PM CDT reply actions

PK

is terrible.

by Bobbythegreat on Jul 31, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions

He loves the Titans too much

and he makes his bias obvious

by Biggity B on Jul 31, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions

Another quote from the Browns blog..

Vickers is as good at FullBack as Joe Thomas is at Tackle.

The strong do what they have to do; the weak accept what they have to accept

by Riott on Jul 31, 2011 6:39 PM CDT reply actions

damn i just got half a chub

joe thomas is an elite tackle. so is vickers an upgrade or just as good as the human coke machine?

Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jul 31, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions

Maybe just as good, at half the price

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions

nice. so have we signed him yet?

Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jul 31, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions

That a way to hold them toes to the fire.

by chuckiepoo on Jul 31, 2011 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions

No word yet

No word on Warren either

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions

Warren isn't visiting until today

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by Mike Kerns on Aug 1, 2011 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions

This is indeed true.

Dawgs by Nature -- where Hitler, apparently, 'did some good things'.

by golanbatrac on Jul 31, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions

If we sign him

Looks like Casey will be back on bench duty

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions

i doubt it.

Signing Vickers is probably more of an insurance policy than anything else. He adds so much more to this offense to be sent back to the bench. Even if he can’t block as well his catching ability makes him a threat.

Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jul 31, 2011 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions

But if he proves to be a far superior blocker, it would be hard to keep him benched

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions

Different sets. Remember, Leach was only on the field, what, 38% of the plays?

by chuckiepoo on Jul 31, 2011 8:54 PM CDT up reply actions

Yeah, I know

But who’s to say Casey would be on the field more often anyways? OD & Dreesen would still be on the field more than him, along with Andre & KW, which means single back sets.

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Jul 31, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions