Texans Training Camp: Day One Recap
by Tim on Aug 1, 2011 10:28 PM CDT
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PrintIs this a link dump? I'm not going to lie to you, Marge. So long.
-Lots of quotes from lots of Texans players and Gary Kubiak after the first practice this morning.
-Some Texans couldn't practice today under the terms of the new CBA. I imagine they were really broken up about not having to sprint around in the triple digit heat.
-With the departure of Vonta Leach, the spotlight turns to James Casey.
-A bunch of sound bites from the Texans during yesterday's media session, courtesy of Lance Zierlein.
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The "lots of quotes from lots...." link doesn't work for me.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
Try It Now
Should be fixed.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Great! thanks Tim!
Been dying for the one stop training camp updates.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Aug 1, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Still not completely sold...
…on throwing all the chips in on Casey. I like him, but I’d still rather them bring in a more experienced FB.
Spurs/Texans/Horns...everyone else to the back of the bus.
If James Casey had demonstrated for an instant that he couldn't do it, I would join you in questioning him
He hasn’t done that. This is the changing of the guard. It happens all the time. One player moves on for whatever reason and another player takes his place. The machine keeps turning.
I understand people’s trepidation. Fine. Just sit back and watch. James Casey will do what he hast to do. If he can’t, I’m sure the coaches and FO will find a guy. I think we all know that Leach was a good player. But, he wasn’t perfect on every play. He wasn’t a constant difference maker in this offense. It’s a team game. This team won just 6 games last season.
James Casey will be just great!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Please watch this and tell me you dont want this guy here.
by southpaw70 on Aug 1, 2011 11:02 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Wow
I love this guy. Please come to Houston we will welcome you with open arms. This guy is passionate about what he does. He loves blowing people up and takes pride in protecting his teammates along with being a great motivator and leader from the looks of things. I think this guy would be an awesome sign and would help us out alot. Get him here now.
by MSTexanFan15 on Aug 1, 2011 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey we signed Vonta and under Kubiak he became one of the best FB's in the league.
We could do the same with Vickers.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Truth be told...
I’m afraid to admit it but he’s got a similar philosophy on league leading tailbacks… :- (
That oughta stir the pot a little.
Exactly what we need
We need a guy like this that just loves destroying linebackers and anything else in his way. Leach was good at throwing everything he had at anything in front of him. Im hoping we do pick up a beast like this and just maybe, he could groom Casey into going beast mode as well.
by HolyCrapADecentDefense on Aug 2, 2011 5:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I want him now
You see the passion coming from him. The fact that he’s a local product makes it even better
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 2, 2011 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Vonta was a happy fullback and would blow you up.
This guy seems intense and will blow you and your whole family up
YES PLEASE!
My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!
Interviewer: What's it like when you hit somebody?
… it’s like in slow motion… in 3d almost.
ALMOST?
“Hitting someone: the closest real life will ever come to 3d”
by Scruffy The Janitor on Aug 2, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He reminds me of Ray Lewis
Minus some of the insanity, but the intensity is definitely there.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Brandon harris "it's lovley" hahaha
by Carter Liles on Aug 1, 2011 11:07 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I am not sure where all those quotes are compiled from
That is the most information I have seen on James Casey since he joined the Texans
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
Warren is headed west.
Supposed to meet with Broncos and Chiefs. Hopefully it’s just his agent fishing. A little insurance on the line would be sweet.
we need vickers. i like casey as much as the next guy, but he's a queston mark. puttin in a new def, and our schedule bein front loaded like it is. our offense is gunna have to b clickin on all cylinders out the gate. its the offense thats still the bread
and butter of this team. its the offense thats gunna get us through these first 5 or 6 games. at least
Casey has been practicing at FB for a couple of years
Since he has been the back-up. It isn’t like he has to learn something new
I like what I see in Vickers, if we get him great, but Casey will surprise a lot of folks
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 1, 2011 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
no, he wont suprise me at all. im pretty sure i kno exaktly what he's gunna b. he'll b the reggy bush of fullbacks. schematiclly u can do sum crazy things that the defense will have to account for. i doubt he will ever b a great lead blocker, and thats
what got arian 1600 yards. vickers can do everything leach can do, and almost as well. im just sayin, why chance it?
u jus makin words up? what do that mean?
by FU Nnamdi on Aug 2, 2011 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
means extreme haughtiness, pride or arrogance.
Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one’s own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power. per wiki
Kahuna’s, ya know? Moxie brother! The gold balls.
by chuckiepoo on Aug 2, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
means extreme haughtiness, pride or arrogance.
Hubris often indicates a loss of contact with reality and an overestimation of one’s own competence or capabilities, especially when the person exhibiting it is in a position of power. per wiki
Kahuna’s, ya know? Moxie brother! The gold balls.
Really?
You asked that a question like “u jus makin words up? what do that mean?” and didnt expect a smart ass reply?
"How bout that ride in. I guess that's why they call it sin city."
hubris
WAS the smartass reply.
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 2, 2011 10:55 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You're good.
Pretty sure he was answering to your question, “..why chance it?”,,, “cause we’ve got big balls and are willing to risk it”. Me, I’m with you and hope they manage to sign Vickers. I thought it was a huge mistake to not resign Dunta, even though he had some marginal head issues.
Gotta have thick skin around here.
If you think someone may be trying to offend you, take a deep breath. A) they may be trying to offend you (not often) B) they are fucking with you,,,,probably every third or fourth post! :-)
Or
It could be a reply fail
Or some other messed up stuff
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Sometimes
its enough to almost make your head asplode.
"How bout that ride in. I guess that's why they call it sin city."
Obligatory Head Asplode
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I just thought FTJ's claims were hubris.
He doesn’t have any confidence in Casey. He hasn’t watched him in practice (as far as I know). He goes from saying he already knows what"s going to happen, then comes around to “why chance it”.
The coaching staff has been watching Casey play FB for two or three years. They know what’s what. If he starts, I don’t look at it as ‘taking chances’.
Oh well…
Who's belittling who, here?...
Anyway, I like Vickers. I’d even prefer Vickers. But, yeah, the Texans running game will survive. Call it a ‘hunch’.
I'm confident that it will be effective enough to take us far in the playoffs.
I think you said something earlier about Leach’s lead blocking being responsible for Arian’s season. I put it more on a combination of things.
Aside from Leach’s punishing lead blocking, I’d also credit the line, the scheme, oh… and Arian’s talent and vision.
Anyhoo, you do realize that the Denver ZBS has a long track record for being effective, no matter who’s involved, right? And our personnel is very talented so… the sky isn’t falling, here. (In fact, I’ll bet you that we rush for more yardage this season, than we did last season!)
The running game will need to be consistently effective, in order for us to do damage in the playoffs, as well as to merely make it there.
Heard that!
My mind keeps going back to the few plays he was actually on the field and how few times he recieved the ball on a flair or in the flat. That’s just another dimension Thor will add to that 38%.
Vonta was excellent
But I fear we fans get caught being sentimental, at times. I’m certainly guilty of that myself.
And I'm not directing that at FTJ
I’m quite positive that our staff greatly values the running attack. In fact, they value it enough to develop FBs in the wings, whereas some teams don’t even roster a single one.
I also believe we got too caught up in the jaw-dropping physicality that THCM brought. Blocking FB, in this system, is about preperation and technique, just as much as physicality. Maybe even more important.
ya
i disagree. foster will have a great yr im sure but not 1600 good. teams will game plan against him this yr more. casey maybe great but to me he’s a luxery like reggy bush is a luxery. thats not an insult. defenses have to really take reggy into account. reggys also not an every down back. he’s tight to get in space a couple times a game, but thats a luxery. same with casey. he’s nice to have if u have a bruisin fullback to go with him. he’s 6’3 and too thin in the hips to hit that A gap 10-15 times a game,16+ games a yr. hie body wont hold up. imho
I meant the entire offense will rush for more yards.
Maybe not Foster, himself, per se.
And I base my prediction off the fact that we should have more leads, which could put us in more situations to eat clock.
But check the history of this scheme. There’s probably even room for growth…
In 2010 we were just getting started, in my eyes.
The more time I spend here the more respect I gain for this assortment of writers.
/backhanded chin wipe.
They may be wrong or have misplaced faith but they’re definitely peelin’ the onion and checking out the Texans from all sides, all the sparkles and all the warts.
And we normally don’t try to just stuff the RB into the A gap. We mostly pull the defense towards the sideline, often times cutting back in.
I’m not worried about THOR’s height/frame. I’d be more worried whether or not he has a grasp of the offense. Then again, he graduated from Rice, and has also been around this team long enough.
yaya i understand what ur sayin. i was jus usin A gap as example. more times than
not he’ll take on a linebacker regarless
Well, if he does start...
I’m not sure he’ll blow up defenders and put them on their backs, as often as Leach would. Then again, as long as they’re blocked…
I agree.
Although, running the ball is always the best way to tire a defense. It’s not merely a fullback doing that. It’s the entire offense.
Blockers are usually moving forward on running plays, which attacks defenders. As opposed to pass plays, where the blocking normally retreats, allowing the defenders to be on the attack.
Now, throw in the facts that we tend to pull; cut block defenders; and place emphasis on getting RBs who are physical -and I’d expect our running game to be highly physical. Vonta or no Vonta.
I will agree with your concerns about Casey staying healthy, though Leach is a bit older, and has already dealt with injuries over the past few seasons.
I won't take the bet
I’m with you, CB. I think the rush O for the Texans is primed to surpass last season. My reasoning is the offensive line. They had a whole season of success last year and I think they will build on that. They had a few injuries, Brown was out on suspension, and they added a new guy, Wade Smith, and this season, they have every reason to improve having learned how to play together in this system. I think they will be as good or better this season. I think Arian will be as good or better. I think the D will be better and I think that leads into the rush O being more important in the ball control philosophy of winning football games. They go hand in hand. This should shape up to be a better rush O this season!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
It was so incredible last season, that some folks just assume it will regress.
Then again, I believe that it was sort of an average rushing total overall, when compared with some of the Denver teams of Kubiak’s previous stint.
It’s not like we had the greatest rushing season of all time, and it’s not like we were just sitting on possesion much, just running the ball to close out games.
my favorite quote
from Antonio Smith
(on DE J.J. Watt) "He looks good, a big strong, strapping young buck. It’s going to be a lot of hazing going on. He can carry a lot of pads on that back. We can gather about 20 stacks of pads on him."
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 1, 2011 11:38 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
That is a pretty tall stack
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 1, 2011 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
He must be pretty damn strong.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
They aren't that heavy
but it would take skill to balance them
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Honey Badger dont care
Honey Badger dont give a shit!
"How bout that ride in. I guess that's why they call it sin city."
by AFTexan on Aug 2, 2011 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah it kind of fits Watts "motor"
he went to Wisconsin and was a badger. I had just finished watching the youtube of the Honey Badger and tagged him with it.
We've been in that position since 2007.
This is the first year though I actually expect the team to live up to that standard,
First time since we hired Kubiak we’ve had the same quality of coaching on BOTH sides of the ball. And the talent we have on defense now is the highest we’ve ever had I think.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Via John Harris's twitter
Texans first practice thoughts in short. Watt can play. B. Harris is going to push for PT. B. Reed more comfortable in space than expected
"How bout that ride in. I guess that's why they call it sin city."
A lot of folks predicting "No fly zone" Harris will get to play
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Out of all of that tweet
I think the part about Brooks Reed is what I am most excited about. I wonder if his size and quickness would allow for he and Cushing to be switched around at will by Wade to just add to the flexibility of the D.
"How bout that ride in. I guess that's why they call it sin city."
Reed was playing Cushing's Position in Practice
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Makes me wonder what team it was with
I heard that Sharpton was looking good filling in the middle today as well.
"How bout that ride in. I guess that's why they call it sin city."
Yeh, that Sharpton is a fine, fine player
Good head for the ball.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
a former Hurricane as well
and a really good backup to our ILB’s
by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 2, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it was on the radio
but somewhere I heard Brooks got a pick yesterday. That is good to hear.
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Aug 2, 2011 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah i heard it was a pick on tj yates
its still a really good sign nontheless
by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 2, 2011 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
It has been in the basement thread
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
thors gonna smash some heads
Casey is gonna be great…he has played as a back up fb for like 2 years now…he’s beefed up by like 20lbs (muscle)…will he be vonta? Hell no! No one will be, but will he be serviceable and work into elite…yes! And remember most of AF’s yards last year came outta single back…kubes said they will onfly use fb in about 10-15 snaps and of those he will prolly only block 70% the other 30% will be schemes to short passes after the run is developed!
by skeezy12 on Aug 2, 2011 1:22 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
It's in the goal-line situations we're going to miss Leach the most.
Don’t think Thor can open the gaps Leach did
Thor
I feel like he will be able to cause alot of mismatches out of the backfield. Motion him out, send him out to the flats. Defenses will have to account for him out of the backfield every play, unlike Leach, where teams could probably afford to ignore him from time to time…
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Aug 2, 2011 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions
11 and a half sacks las yr. 10 forced fumbles i think i read. he can def rush the passer. i'd like to get pat williams n warren
can u imagin our run d wit warren, p. williams n watt. only on obvious run plays no doubt, but it b tuff
so glad we didnt take him last year in the draft
by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 2, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
By the sounds of things, he isn't very dedicated.
If so, our boys would have smelled that right away, and were avoiding him like the plague. It also might be why they had used Mathews, in particular, to bluff with, in Pancakes’ draft reporting.
This quote makes me feel a little better:
"We used to not have an offseason when I first started. I’ve been through it when you just saw them for training camp. You’ve got to implement the system. I think we played five rookies when I was in New Orleans that started for us. You’ve got to get them ready whatever year they are, whatever team it is, you’ve got to get them ready for the season. That’s our job." from Wade Phillips
I don't know how those particular teams performed that year.
But it makes me more hopeful Wade will get the defense going in the short time frame
Andre Johnson.....Carted off the field.
Hand injury
My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!
You don't get carted off the field for a hand injury
Well, maybe in soccer, but not football
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 2, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
My favorite quote
CB Johnathan Joseph (on what he brings in as a veteran to help players like CB Kareem Jackson):
Experience, just like what it is to work hard in practice, what it is to finish on plays, just the little simple things, because there’s no doubt about his talent. He has all the talent in the world.
KJ being coached by his coaches AND by his peers. Have we ever had a CB that was good enough and experienced enough to mentor his peers?
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
"He has all the talent in the world."
im getting more and more optimistic about the season…
by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 2, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
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