Observe and Report: Texans Training Camp Notes for August 13th
I don't like crowds. I have no patience to stand in the middle of a huge throng of people; if I wanted to do that, I would be a cow. So it seems rather ironic that I have spent six of the last eight days sitting in the heat with thousands of people huddled up next to me. Get it? Hud---never mind. Anyway, with today being Saturday, the last open practice of training camp, and Fan Appreciation Day, I would have expected the typically packed bleachers to have people clinging like barnacles to the walls behind the benches for today's practice.
So when I found the bleachers were sparsely populated, I whispered a brief "Praise Durga" before taking my seat. I looked around at the crowds wondering how "Fan Appreciation Day" would be more special than any other day of training camp I attended. Through most of practice, the only thing I figured was that some wonderful soul was playing the drums in the main concourse. I say they're a wonderful soul because the drumming drowned out Train's "Soul Sister" playing on the stereo.
Then practice ended.
Over the loudspeaker came this booming, cheerful (clearly someone who had access to air conditioning), voice announcing that Texans players would be coming over to give autographs to fans who stuck around after the official end of practice.
I've never actually seen sharks in the middle of a feeding frenzy, but I have to imagine Texans fans clamoring for autographs has to bear a pretty respectable resemblance. I've never seen people line up for ANYTHING so quickly in my entire life. Arms flailed over the flimsy white fence desperate to get their Texans memorabilia signed by their favorite player, or ANY player. They looked like a giant epileptic octopus. And, for reasons that I still cannot fully explain, even I got into the act. I got my notebook signed by some pretty good players, but there was one in particular I had wanted...and he jogged up to the fence.
"J.J..." I said softly as a wide smile crept onto my face. "It's J.J." I would like to tell you that I was dignified and respectable while waiting for J.J. Watt to sign my notebook, patiently waiting, while wearing my spiffy new Battle Red Blog T-shirt, for the epileptic octopus to swim away. I would like to say that. But it would be an utter lie.
I jumped in place, waved my notebook around trying to get his attention, shouted his name and various stupid jokes about grape-flavored Gatorade. Nothing. My attempts to get J.J. Watt to file a restraining order against me an autograph from the rookie defensive end were all in vain. As he trotted away to sign more autographs elsewhere, all I could do was eke out a pitiful "Come back, J.J....come baaaaaaaack..."
But as bad as the octopus was in front of the bleachers, trying to get Andre Johnson's autograph was a trial by fire, almost literally. Never mind the fact that having all those other bodies around me only made the temperature hotter than the devil's underpants, and the octopus seemed to be even bigger and meaner as Andre grew closer. It was Andre! Signing things!
I've always wondered what it would be like to be part of those shoppers during "Black Friday." The nerves in the pit of your stomach, the excitement at getting the one thing you need for your Christmas to be complete, the fear of imminent death by stampede. This had all of those things and I didn't even have to buy anything! Sadly, I came up as empty on getting AJ's autograph as J.J.'s, but I was less of an embarrassment than I was trying to get J.J.'s autograph.
Now that I've wasted sufficient space here, let's get to what really matters: football players hitting each other!
Click on the jump to read about who did what, what they wore, and why they should be heckled...probably from a distance.
1. If we have to rely on T.J. Yates at any point this season, we are in a world of trouble. T.J. Yates looked dreadful today. If he wasn't overthrowing receivers, he was throwing his short passes too hard for receivers to catch them. He's a rookie, sure, and this is probably the worst he's looked so far in camp in my opinion but we can't afford Yates to see playing time this season.
2. I'm really looking forward to seeing Jeff Maehl play in the Monday night game. He has great hands and catches everything thrown his way. Kind of reminds me of Kevin Walter in that respect (also since Maehl-man is an unacceptable option for a nickname, he shall be henceforth known as: Maehl-strom.)
3. Johnathan Joseph was held out of practice again today with a groin injury. Even after an injection to his groin he was still sore. That last sentence looks so wrong somehow. I have to admit, I'm mildly concerned about this injury considering the trouble he has staying healthy on a week-in week-out basis. But hey, it's early. There's plenty of time for him to get his body right.
4. Owen Daniels is going to be pretty damn good again this year. Matt Schaub threw a really awful pass and OD caught it just before it hit the ground.
5. Antwaun Molden broke up a couple of passes today. You know, Antwaun, if you had been doing this all along, you wouldn't be getting cut this season.
6. According to BRBer Stash Musial, Brooks Reed really struggled to get into the backfield today, the tackles all seemed to be too much for him to handle.
7. Quintin Demps got a pick on a pass intended for Anthony Hill. See Antwaun Molden.
8. I would be extremely surprised to see Joseph, Foster, or Andre Johnson play in Monday's game. After all, what do they have to gain from playing?
9. Lastly, I want to thank SBN and our corporate masters sponsor Comcast/Xfinity for allowing me the opportunity to fly down to my hometown to basically talk and write about football. I'd also like to thank my fellow writers/members for putting up with me while I was in town; it was great to finally put faces to some of your names. But most of all I'd like to thank all of you readers. Without y'all this wouldn't be possible, and I hope y'all have enjoyed my semi-coherent rambling.
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Enjoyed is an understatement…maybe next year SBN can get you a media pass and u can make it in to media days as well.
by SMITHILLIAK on Aug 13, 2011 5:48 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I won't hold my breath, but damn that'd be nice.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Great write ups
But you didn’t give me any Earl Mitchell hype today…what gives?
by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 13, 2011 6:04 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not sure I could give him much more hype without sounding ridiculous.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Isn't that part of the fun of writing about it? Ridiculous hype?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
The guy that started the "Andre"
chant outside by the tunnel while Andre was signing autographs by the white fence: This guy
/proudly points at himself
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Aug 13, 2011 6:08 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
hahahahaaaa!
nice.
"It's very SIMPLE angela!!!!! LOOK AT WHAT I'M DOING... AND GO TELL SOMEBODY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - Andy
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still don't beat me & cush's "mario" chant.
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NO WAY!!!
I was the guy in front of you with the white sunglasses and red hat with the Dre jersey on! Did you also ask Weeks if we were gonna see any snaps go over the punters head this year?
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by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 14, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't remember much.
I was still kinda hammered from the night before so the faces that I remember from the The faces I remember from the crowd are pretty vague. I remember two guys in front of me with Andre jerseys on and the other one holding a liberty white Andre jersey that he was trying to get signed. Were you with the guy that had a kid that kept pouting?!
But it wasn’t me that asked Weeks that question.
Did you hear that ridiculous old man talking about the oilers? He was trying to get his old Oilers helmet signed by J.J. Moses but he didn’t even have any kind of clue who J.J. Moses was!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Edit:
I was still kinda hammered from the night before so the faces that I remember from the The faces I remember from the crowd are pretty vague.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
No i was solo
but yes I saw the old man right by the entrance with the piss yellow oilers helmet. (note: Imnot sure I would want an Oilers helmet signed by a bunch of Texans) He was wild but I did think it was weak that they only sent out a few guys to sign autographs, wasnt it Fan Appreciation day? Oh well I got Watt and Myers autographs on my shirt.
Oh ya, and isnt Jacoby a cocky mofo?
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 15, 2011 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for all the training camp reports
I really appreciate you braving the heat to give us updates.
Re: #2
I and many other Rockets fans from the ’90s thank you.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
You forgot to mention OD's two one-handed catches
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I blame the drums.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Yates overthrew and threw too hard? That’s a problem I’ll take. The QB Whisperer can reign him in. I look forward to his progression….especially since I had him mocked to Houston. /shameless self-plug
Demps isn’t the same case as Molden. We brought Demps in mid-season last year…and he should be in the back-up safety mix as this wonderfully brilliant fellow suggests.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Also...
Good work, UT. It’s been great to get these reads all week long. Way to represent.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Much obliged kind sir.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, like I said, rookie stuff.
Nothing that can’t be fixed. He just didn’t look good today.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not too worried about Jo Jo
As you said, as long as he’s ready for the first regular season game, he could sit out the entire preseason and I’d be happy. I’m just hoping the football gods are letting us rack up injuries in preseason in hopes of the regular season being injury free…..
Thanks for the update UT
I'd be more concerned if it was a foot/ankle injury
as those are what made him miss games in the past
Problem is
Groins and hammies can be devilishly hard to heal. That’s what worries me. But I imagine if this were a regular season game, he’d probably play.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 14, 2011 3:10 AM CDT up reply actions
i concur...
Great job covering training camp..
by The Ice Machine on Aug 13, 2011 6:29 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I went to the camp yesterday, and I don’t know why everyone is hyped up for Jeff Maehl, he dropped 3/4 passes I saw thrown to him, unless I had the wrong number, he is #15, correct?
Yesterday was a rough day for him.
The rest of the time, he’s been very good.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions
This SO much better than any other reporting
And all without a press pass. Niiiiiiiiiice.
They call it a "Royale with Cheese".
He hasn't missed a beat.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for toughing it out in the heat
You do an excellent job covering the team. I know it is hard to focus on more than one or two positions and you did it effectively. I was surprised that my rec was only the third one (when I did it).
It will be interesting to see if the pre-season games show the same things as practice – as there is usually that guy that is a real gamer – but doesn’t stand out in practice.
I am with you on letting the starters sit – but I wouldn’t be surprised to see them for one or two series on Monday night.
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He also said that Johnathan Joseph would be practicing today.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Thought he would.
Also expected Tate back. Hard to predict how guys handle injuries.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
UT, thanks for all the great coverage over that past week!
I didn’t get to make it out to one of these, though I really wanted to, so it was great to get the skinny from someone who actually knows the team, and knows what the fans are actually interested in hearing about. Great work!
Not that many people there today?
Shit. I was going to go out, but I accidentally stayed up until 3 and couldn’t wake up 3 or 4 hours later.
Good observations, UT.
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Twenty-five years ago.
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Michael Lombardi tosses Brian Baldinger's salad.
With syrup.
Ya fucking wuss
I stayed up that whole night out in the country watching the freakin meteor shower while drinking Shiner Bock. Got back to the city by 6:30 and went straight to TC!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Thanks, UT. Gonna miss these reports.
I really looked forward to reading them every day.
It was nice getting to meet you. Be safe going back to Seattle.
Michael Lombardi tosses Brian Baldinger's salad.
With syrup.
Colt McCoy is going to be a good QB in this league.
and dare I say the Bills look like they could actually resemble an NFL team? Merriman and Dareus had Cutler running for his life.
I hope not
If the Bills get over 3 wins this year and the Bengles get Luck I will throw a hissy fit of biblical proportions. Its best for them to do terrible again just one more time
About time Merriman showed up again.
He looks like he’s ready to be a difference maker again.
And yes Colt McCoy looked excellent tonight.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
And Cutler is soft
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 13, 2011 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Cutler is soft?
I’ve never seen a QB take so many hits and just keep standing in the pocket like he doesn’t know that his line is shit. I’ve never heard him complain about it either. He should have Carr Syndrome by now for sure.
by Toolshed1 on Aug 13, 2011 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Physically is one thing, but he's soft in the head
Plus his no balls move to not come back in during the playoff game was another example of how soft he is. He also doesn’t ever show any kind of fire to inspire the team, & he always has this look like he really doesn’t care about much of anything. One would think he’d at least yell at his O-Line to say “Can you give me at least 4 fucking seconds to throw the damn ball?” He clearly doesn’t have that in him. He’s mentally soft, his heart is soft, the rest of the league knows he’s soft (which is why MJD won’t apologize), & his team knows he’s soft but they won’t call him out in public because he’s on their team. Add in his dumbass comment that a he won’t be doing any endorsements & player shouldn’t be doing endorsements until they win a Super Bowl. Really??? He does realize he’s on the team that brought us the Super Bowl Shuffle, right?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 13, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Trust me, this isn't just my opinion
I’ve heard others have this opinion on him as well, referring to him as another SEC frat boy QB not taking his job seriously
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 13, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions
everyone's got an opinion
here’s mine: jay cutler is an nfl quarterback playing with a terminal disease, type 1 diabetes. doesn’t sound too soft to me. also, he was held out of the playoff game by team doctors. i suppose you’re familiar with the effects of concussions on nfl players?
before you or anyone else calls out cutler for being soft, find a mirror.
by mikrobass3 on Aug 14, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
He didn't have a concussion, he banged up his knee
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 14, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions
But he didn't bang up his knee.
He tore his MCL
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Sprained, not tore
although there are conflicting reports of both
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
What does sprained MCL mean again?
I would love to hear you explain the difference between a sprained MCL and a MCL tear.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Here's your explanation
Grade 1 symptoms:
Mild tenderness on the inside of the knee over the ligament.
Usually no swelling.
When the knee is bent to 30 degrees and an outward force applied to the lower leg to stress the medial ligament, pain is felt but there is no joint laxity (looseness) (see assessment).
Grade 2 symptoms:
Significant tenderness on the inside of the knee on the medial ligament.
Some swelling seen over the ligament.
When the knee is stressed as for grade 1 symptoms, there is pain and mild to moderate laxity in the joint, although there is a definite end point (the knee cannot be bent sideways completely).
Grade 3 symptoms:
This is a complete tear of the ligament.
Pain can vary and is sometimes not as bad as that of a grade 2 sprain.
When stressing the knee as described above there is significant joint laxity.
The athlete may complain of having a very wobbly or unstable knee.
Now Cutler’s injury was diagnosed as a Grade 2 Sprain (as seen here)
Now as this article I linked to shows, there’s some inconsistencies with the report, mainly this one
For some point of comparison, we heard ESPN’s Ross Tucker said on Rome is Burning Monday in his experience as a player that he could play through a grade I sprain, and he couldn’t even stand if he had a grade II or grade III sprain.If you remember correctly, Cutler often was seen standing on the sidelines, sometimes even pacing, which doesn’t seem consistent with someone with a Grade 2 MCL Sprain
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, but you're kinda dumb.
Did you just cherry pick an article that supports my position?
First things first: An MCL sprain is essentially the same thing as an MCL tear, so Lovie Smith’s explanation of Jay Cutler’s injury was consistent with previous report.
That was the first sentence of the article that you cited.
Please tell me you’ve had an MCL tear before and you know what you’re talking about! Because you’re starting to sound ridiculous.
Cutler was shown on camera pacing, so what?! You can still walk with that kind of injury. You know what you can’t do? You can’t plant your feet to run or put any excessive pressure on the injured knee.
Let’s see… Do you need to plant your feet when you’re throwing the ball? Do you need to put excessive pressure on your knees when you’re running away from blitzes?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Fine, you've made your point on the injury. You've failed to address the questioning of his heart though
Again, this isn’t just my opinion, just see here
Since finding out the exact nature of Cutler’s injury, a lot of players have taken back their initial criticisms of him. Why? Yes, Cutler’s MCL injury is not so minor and the ligament is torn to some degree. But many players have played with ailments just as severe — if not more so — on many occasions. And most of them weren’t competing for a trip to the Super Bowl. Every season, after a few weeks of playing in the NFL, a good number of employees work with some kind of injury. It comes with the job. Injuries happen. It’s a supremely physical game. If players want to tell one of their own that he should have shown more guts and played on a wobbly knee in a game with great consequence, they should stick to their guns. I think Bears fans and many other people would have been at least OK with Cutler’s situation if he simply looked like he gave a damn about what was going on. While he was sitting, standing or riding a stationary bike on the sidelines, never did you see him distraught or visibly depressed that he could no longer continue in the most important Bears game in four years. Tears would have been acceptable. There was never a shot of him with his head in his hands. He just looked bored. He didn’t show an interest in helping out Todd Collins or Caleb Hanie. He didn’t wear headphones to listen to what plays were being called. He just stood there — without a knee wrap or ice pack in sight — and seemed to take his exit with an “oh well” attitude. I don’t know what was going on inside of him, but the exterior was less than satisfying to those who wanted a Bears victory so badly. With so much on the line, people needed to see more passion, more caring; Cutler didn’t give it to them. And so, Bears fans started burning No. 6 jerseys as soon as the Packers started celebrating. It’s going to be a long spring and summer in Chicago. For the sake of Bears fans, I hope there is no lockout and the 2011 season starts on time. By September, they’ll desperately need something to help them erase the memory of how their 2010 season ended.
And look at the opinions of other players as well
Maurice Jones-Drew, who played the first 14 games with a partially torn meniscus in his right knee before shutting it down, posted two comments about Cutler. He first compared the quarterback to former University of Florida coach Urban Meyer, who resigned in December, then wrote: “All I’m saying is that he can finish the game on a hurt knee … I played the whole season on one.”
Darnell Dockett posted, “If I’m on chicago team jay cutler has to wait till me and the team shower get dressed and leave before he comes in the locker room!”
Mark Schlereth wrote, “As a guy how had 20 knee surgeries you’d have to drag me out on a stretcher to Leave a championship game!”
Deion Sanders had this to say, “Im telling u in the playoffs u must drag me off the field. All the medicine in pro lockerooms this dude comes out! I apologize bear fans! … Folks i never question a players injury but i do question a players heart.”
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
On that first quote.
Where did you get that from? Was it from a guy that saw the playoff game on TV, or in person. Because it looks like these people that are bitching about Cutler just moping around and not helping the back-up QB’s saw this on TV on a couple of seconds of footage. They’re basing their “Cutler has no heart” argument on cherry-picked footage of Cutler in moments where he doesn’t seem to be doing anything to help the team.
But from the accounts that i’ve heard/read from people that actually went to the game, Cutler was helping the back-up QB’s. He did have an earpiece on, assisting with the play-calling based on the defense.
I’ll gladly take the accounts of people that was there to watch the game and see what Cutler was doing in person rather than account of people that have only seen a couple of seconds of footage where Cutler was caught not doing anything.
And what do you expect him to do while he’s benched anyways?? If you’ve watched Cutler before, you know that he’s not a “rah-rah, i’ll murder you” kind of guy. He’s mild-mannered and an introvert.
It’s really easy to question a man’s heart when you’re not in his position. You do know that he’s a freakin’ diabetic right? And that his O-line protected him as well as the early Texans O-line protected David Carr? Yet he stayed in the game, played the whole season, until he was injured to the point that he couldn’t play anymore. If that doesn’t show toughness or that doesn’t show heart, then I don’t know what does.
As for your cherry-picked quotes from players that weren’t in that game:
MJD didn’t play the last two games for the jags. Winning those last two games could’ve pushed them to the playoffs, but he didn’t. Some heart on that fucking guy.
The rest of the guys, I don’t really know much about them so I can’t say anything.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Check your facts before you throw out something stupid like that
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/14590417/does-cutler-have-seriously-injured-knee-or-weak-heart
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 14, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Just remember this
Cutler didn’t play the rest of that game because he banged up his knee. Phillip Rivers played through two playoff games with a torn ACL
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 14, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Way to man up... rec'd
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by Christopher H on Aug 14, 2011 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I see Cutler differently.
I think the guys in his locker room respect him. he got hit a fuckton of times last season and he just kept getting back up and not saying shit. I think his o-line was thankful for that. I’ve seen interviews with Culter where he addressed his lack of heart and he basically said that he has never been a rah-rah type of guy like phillip rivers. The only way that he knows how to show he cares is to suit up every week and to go out and compete. He lets other guys hype the team up because if he does it everyone will know it isn’t genuine.
However I do think that he isn’t that great but is glorified by the media for having a “gunslinger” attitude.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Aug 14, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll take the guy who plays through a torn ACL over someone who sits with an MCL Sprain
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 14, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions
He didn't have balls because his torn MCL prevented him from playing?
Yep. No balls at all.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
A Torn ACL didn't stop Phillip Rivers, a Broken Leg didn't stop Byron Leftwich at Marshall
A Sprained MCL shouldn’t have stopped Cutler. Slap on a knee brace & get your ass back out there, it’s not like he’s gonna be running much anyways
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
That's such a cop out argument an you know it.
First of all, different players have different pain thresholds. A stubbed toe might be nothing to you, but it might be everything for somebody else.
Your Rivers argument? He took a fucking cortisone shot. That’s how he was able to play through the pain. Should Cutler have asked for a cortisone shot? Only if he wanted to die in the middle of the field.
Your Leftwich argument? He left after the first quarter because of a broken shin. He came back during the third quarter and his team was down by 15+ points. BTW, he sucked during that game anyway. You know, the game that they lost where he really didn’t do much, probably just hindered his team from winning because they have to carry this guy that’s trying to prove his machissmo.
Why should an MCL tear stop Cutler from playing? It’s not like he needed his knee to plant his foot and throw the ball. It’s not like he needed to be mobile because his line was protecting him like prisoners in a gulag.
Side note: Leftwich isn’t even in the league anymore because of injuries, and Cutler only missed one start his entire career because of injuries. You know because concussions can do that to people and shit.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Concussions aren't part of this argument, leg injuries are
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Cherry-fucking-picking
Thanks for not acknowledging the main points of my argument.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
So by that argument, you'd rather have seen Rex Grossman finish that game at Jacksonville a few seasons ago rather than Schaub throwing his shoulder back into place, wrapping it up & getting back out there on the field?
What about Matthew Stafford going back in after separating his shoulder & throwing the winning TD against the Browns? All I’m saying is that they at least did everything they could to get back into the game to give their teams a chance to win. Cutler on the other hand looked like he didn’t give a damn, & that’s what most people had a problem with. At least look like you want back in, at least look like you’re trying, don’t look like you’re just quitting on your team.
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
By what argument are you talking about?
The three that you failed to acknowledge? Or the sidenote that you cherry-picked?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
What about Cutler playing the whole season
Not missing a start eventhough his O-line hung him out to dry the whole regular season?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Says the guy with the David Carr pic
Just cause you can take the beating physically doesn’t mean you have heart
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
A dig at my avatar of choice?! You’re quite an intelligent owl! Does all the hooting nonsense increase your IQ?
What is your definition of having a NFL player “having a heart”? What does he have to do to show that “he has the heart?”
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
See Brett Favre, Phillip Rivers, Matthew Stafford, Terrell Owens, Andre Johnson, etc.....
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Can you elaborate on that?
Compare and Contrast their heart to Jay Cutler.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Crap
did you just use TO as an example?!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Do I need to
Brett Favre – Self explanatory, didn’t miss a game his entire career until last season
Phillip Rivers – Played through 2 playoff games on a torn ACL
Matt Stafford – Came back in right after separating his shoulder to throw the game winning TD against the Browns (& won the hearts of Detroit in the process)
T.O. – Came back early from a broken foot & played the game of his life in the Super Bowl (too bad McNabb couldn’t keep up with him)
Andre Johnson – Played nearly all last season with a bad ankle
Mario Williams – Do I need to remind you of all the injuries he’s played through?
Do I need to go on?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
So why doesn't Cutler have heart?
He’s playing with Diabetes. He took a pounding all season long and never bitched about or threw his team mates under the bus. He started the NFC championship game even though the doctorss advised against it because it could’ve made the severity of his banged up knee worse, and it did. Only missed one start due to a concussion.
So tell me, how is that different from everybody on your list?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
He acted like a spoiled brat in the process
Not just in Chicago, he did it in Denver as well
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
That doesn't have anything to do with it.
You didn’t say he acted like an entitled little bitch. You said that he wasn’t tough and that he doesn’t have a heart. You retracted your statement about him being tough but you kept pushing the “he has no heart” issue.
When asked about your definition of “having a heart,” you blurted out examples of players and cited their toughness as an evidence of their heart.
And now you’re going off to a different tangent again.
Like I said, your arguments are total cop-outs and you’ve been caught contradicting yourself.
I’m done with this.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Aug 15, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's seriously the best come-back I've heard.
And it really hurts me on the inside because I chose David Carr as my avatar to profess my undying love for him and his elite QB skills.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I don't wanna get in the middle of this fight
but I thought it was a pretty good jab. He’s right about Carr being able to take physical punishment but lacking heart.
Just sayin
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
It was mediocre at best.
IMO. And it doesn’t quite support his stance on Cutler not having heart when you compare David Carr to Jay Cutler.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I still liked "hydrocock" better
=P
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I think I found the root of this argument
You sympathize with Cutler cause he reminds you too much of Carr. You probably think Cutler is what Carr could have been, isn’t it?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 15, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me expand on this
All I’m saying is that they at least did everything they could to get back into the game to give their teams a chance to win.
How can you say that Cutler didn’t? Did you see him trying to get back on the field only to find out that he really wasn’t able to throw the ball anymore? And he did give his team a chance to win. Him staying in and being ineffective is not a way to give your team a chance to win.
Cutler on the other hand looked like he didn’t give a damn, & that’s what most people had a problem with.
Exactly. He LOOKED like he didn’t give a damn from the 2-3 second of him sitting on the bench and not doing anything.
At least look like you want back in, at least look like you’re trying, don’t look like you’re just quitting on your team.
How do you know that he wasn’t trying to go back in? He could’ve just asked to be carted off to the locker room, but he didn’t. Did you ever stop to think that him being on the stationary bike or him pacing around was a way for him to assess his injury and see if he can go back out in the game and play?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Aug 15, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought you hated noodle-armed QBs?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
the Panthers had Cam Newton block a D lineman on some trick play
how fucking stupid would they look if he got seriously injured?
Yeah, he wasn't in danger this time.
but what happens if that guy see’s Cam and decides he’d like to take a crack at the QB trying to block him?
or was it an end around?
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 13, 2011 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Good one.
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Never use a long word where a short one will do.
If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Never use the passive where you can use the active.
Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 14, 2011 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't sound very impressive
Nothing like Week 1 of the 2009 season when Jamarcus Russell went down field on a reverse & threw three very nice blocks. I swear, he missed his calling as a fullback
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 14, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions
As he squanders what is left of his millions
He doesn’t care
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 14, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Last time I saw him...
he looked like he was pushing three bills. That’s about perfect size for a Texans DE. CALL HIM UP!
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Locker playing well for the Titans.
Their defense is different to. Bigger and more aggressive.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Locker is playing well
but I’d like to see him play against a starting defense as opposed to back-ups and a rookie secondary
"Lord, beer me strength."
u can watch any game on yahoo??
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 13, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
oh well, shit that better than nothin
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 13, 2011 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions
They re-air ever preseason game to.
I’ll have to watch the re-air of the Texans/Jets because I’ll miss the first quarter probably.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Firstrowsports.eu
A little late for today but for future reference. That website has almost every game of every sport streamed for free
by UHmarko on Aug 13, 2011 11:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
quality is awful though
idk why no one streams nfl games with at least halfway decent quality, seems like it’d be a lot easier to do than the MMA and Boxing streams that I certainly wouldn’t watch nearly every single weekend.
Yeah quality isn't the best
But its a good last resort for people who don’t want to pay for the games imho
by UHmarko on Aug 14, 2011 10:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Need An Insider
How are we going to get player highlight comments now? The Texans “official” website is very bland with 1 minute video clips and “Quotes” from coaches and players saying the same old thing…somebody go work for the Texans as a waterboy so you can “Observe and Report” everyday :)
dammit, u set it up and i'll do it. im very serious
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 13, 2011 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't be that guy.

I'm a household name... at my house.
by taylorrohrman on Aug 13, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
lol.. thats quality h2o
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 13, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Bu...But.. But my momma said,
It’s cause, they got all them teeth but no tute-brush.
(spelled purposely)
I'm a household name... at my house.
by taylorrohrman on Aug 13, 2011 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions
i love vicki and she loves me back!!!.she showed me her tits and i love them too!!
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 13, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
boobies*
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
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ya ur right, i thought that later....good call
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 14, 2011 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I have decided to wear my arian foster jersey on monday
even if he doesn’t play
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
so on the Mothership...
one of their headlines is and I quote
MEGA WATT
followed by something about JJ. methinks they be spyin on us! first the andre-ali picture now this? treachery is afoot!
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 13, 2011 9:38 PM CDT reply actions
Or, we're just a step ahead of them and they should hire the BRB writers to do their blogging for them.
One or the other.
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Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 13, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions
of course they will take credit for it...
but we all know it started here! BRB the Texan fan hipsters!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
Hire implies Pay
lololol you wish
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 13, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
They do good work over there.
I don’t think they would intentionally take something that common from BRB. In fact, I doubt they really read it mainly because it does them no good to do so. They are in a different line of work.
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by riversmccown on Aug 14, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Their blogs may be ok but their forum is garbage
Moderated by a douche nozzle, assuming his highness Lord Vinny is still there. If he is, tell him I said to go F himself.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I've noticed this is a trend.
That the “Official Forum of [insert pretty much anything here]” is a cesspool. The best forums are almost invariably the fan-made ones.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Hence BRB
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 14, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Amobi Okoye tonight...
2 sacks.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Aug 13, 2011 9:41 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Good to see him playing well
We’ll see if it translates beyond the preseason.
Why do you say this to me, when you know I will kill you for it?
/sobs
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Tim must be proud
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 14, 2011 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions
anyone else seeing what i'm seeing? (Via Motherships' ablumb)
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 13, 2011 9:46 PM CDT reply actions
dudes slurping his own junk
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 13, 2011 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
man he is hung!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
It gets thirsty too!
Gotta water the snake!
"When all is said and done, more is said than done". - Dan Cutler
by DevilDog1967 on Aug 15, 2011 12:03 AM CDT up reply actions
2 other quality pics from their TC album
Pancakes at his .. ahem, “Finest”
who let Matt Leinart get this close to a female? no hottub? oh.. ok. but just this once. last thing we need is his “career” getting derailed. daddy needs his trade bait
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 13, 2011 9:50 PM CDT reply actions
It ain't easy.
I have a 12yr old that looks 15. Thankfully at the moment dad is still the only man for her.
Why do you say this to me, when you know I will kill you for it?
Because he's close to looking like he belongs in a mausoleum
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 13, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I just always have the urge
to try to roll him back into the water before he dries out and dies.
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I don't live in Houston anymore...
So who’s the fellow on the right in the first picture? I recognize him but can’t come up with a name.
I like to think of myself as being like Andre.. only lighter.. and minus alot of the athleticism.
by ZipCode4 on Aug 15, 2011 12:02 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think that's Barry Warner from Sports Radio 610.
But I’m not entirely sure.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 15, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Was lucky enough to be a guest of John McClain at practice today..
Had a good vantage point….
10 observations…
1: Kareem broke up a pass to Andre. It was on the far field on 1 on ones. He also broke 1
up on Tolliver. That was a go route and he
stayed with him and knocked the ball down.
2: JJ Watt almost ran me over. Dude is a beast, but y’all already know that. 2 more
batted balls…
3: Walter looked awesome… Very crisp routes, sliding catches, always open regardless of the defender.
4: Mario was a is looking very explosive. They had a drill where two lb’s line up next to each other and the coach hikes the ball. The first to get off the line wins. Mario was against Barwin
and smoked him. I have a video but not sure how to post it…
5: Jean looked very good. Made a few catches where he had to make a play on the ball and he would jump up, turn his body, and catch the ball. Very cool
6: Moulden had a great practice.
7: Harris was ok. Made a play, then got burnt, made a play, then just stood there while a 6th stringer ran by and made a catch. I hope that was just on off day
8: Daniels is back!!!
9: jacoby made an awesome catch against Sherrick for a touchdown. A go route with a perfect pass. Then the next time he went Moulden shut him down…
10: Casey, Dreessen, and Mahel looked good
10: +. 1. Cushing was a beast in the drills. He didn’t take 1 play off that I saw. Same with Meco…
It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!
by USMC_Texas on Aug 14, 2011 2:59 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
What I'm looking at Monday.
Mario
Barwin
Reed
McManis
Kareem
Mitchell
Lester Jean
Leinart
Defense as a whole.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
what i am looking at.
All wr’s not name Andre Johnson
O-line
Leinhart
OLB’s
harris,allen, and K-jax.
new kickoff on returns and kicks, i seen one return taking back already in preseason already.

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