bfd's Top 5 Reasons To Be Optimistic About Your 2011 Houston Texans
Disclaimer: This post is so bad, it makes me want to VOMIT, and I haven't even written it, much less read my own words.
Hi, I'm bfd, and this is Part 2 of a two-part nausea inducing series. Part 1 was about my Top 5 Reasons To Be Pessimistic, and it was the worst thing ever published on the Internet. I've got high hopes for Part 2! Errrr, as long as it doesn't break the Internet. So let's hit it, shall we?
#5: Glover Quin - Safety: A couple of us (HoustonDiehards being another, at least) have been calling for Glover Quin to move to safety since...well, since the day he was drafted. The Texans put him at CB, and he's been the best CB on the roster for a couple years now. Which, coincidentally, is not unlike being the tallest, best looking midget at a fat camp in Oklahoma. That's right. I mixed three things there. I'm going to have to rec myself now. Oh baby, YES!
Wait, where was I? Oh yes, Glover Quin. Quin has proven to have the short-burst ability to stay with receivers, but he clearly lacks long speed. He's dropped more balls than he's picked off over the years, but he does have good hands. I don't think Quin will just be a good safety. I think he'll be an elite safety. Playing with his head toward the QB, I believe his ability to see the field, to react in short bursts, and diagnose the play will be shocking in a good way (for a change). Our home game last year against the BE-SFs could be a small example of what's to come.
#4: Offensive Skill Positions: Yes, this bullet point is rather banal. We have the best WR of his era in Andre Johnson. Arian Foster isn't bad, and Matt Schaub doesn't embarrass himself. ***YAWN***
Oh, and these guys are exciting to watch week in/week out. I guess I should mention this.
#3: Offensive Line Continuity: For those who've been here for a while, you know I find nothing more exciting than line play. Yes, it's true! I've long been a believer in building teams from the inside out, the John Madden-esque (not the game, the actual real-life stuff) winning game in the trenches. Growing up with the 1970s Oilers, and the later run-and-shoot versions, those teams dominated at the line of scrimmage.
The Texans return all six starters on the offensive line (Antoine Caldwell and Mike Brisiel split time and starts, especially after the latter went on IR). Caldwell still has plenty of room for improvement, but this is a team which ranked second in ProFootballFocus' offensive line rankings, and fourth for run blocking and 12th for pass protection on FootballOutsiders. And we return all six, seven if you count re-signing the valuable Rashad Butler. In my never, ever humble opinion, this continuity is important, and we've got it.
#2: Mario Williams: Outsourced to MDC:
WOLB-Mario Williams. I realize that Mario, at 290+, seems a better fit for DE than WILB. I disagree for two reasons: (1) Mario's skills would be wasted to a large degree as a defensive end and (2) Mario can thrive in the DeMarcus Ware role. There is literally nothing Ware can do in that role that Mario couldn't do. Come flying off the edge with a running start and beat the LT who also has responsibility for Antonio Smith? Easy peasy. Use that same running start and beat the LT with a bull rush? Hell, that's easier than the way Mario does it now, starting from a three-point stance. Tackle a running back rushing off left tackle? Sho'nuff. Drop into the flat zone? Mario has done it before, in what he calls "the Richard Smith years."
//fap fap fap fap fap fap fap//
Oh, you're still here? This is embarrassing. I'd might as well finish. One moment....
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And we're back. A slimmed down, meaner, leaner looking Mario looks downright frightening. Now that he has real coaching and still carries his crazy abilities? I might need another minute. Go ahead. Knock one out, too.
#1: Wade Phillips: Nope, I didn't list Johnathan Joseph. Or Danieal Manning. Or even Gary Kubiak again, Barry. Wade deserves his own place here. Let me tell you why, and this might take a few words, so bear (rawr) with me.
Wade Phillips was a horrible head coach in occupied Southern Oklahoma. There's no two ways about it. But he was a head coach, and that adds tremendous value to his already successful resume. Wade is a difference maker on defense, and he brings that experience to a team that's dealt with defensive rocket scientists such as Richard Smith and Frank Bush. Yet, the defense still retains a ton of talent. Most importantly, Wade understands just what he needs to be successful, not the cobbling of a bunch of players who don't fit no matter how hard you try to squish them together.
Major issues at safety? Solved. Execrable CB play? Kinda solved! An awareness that doing the same junk - such as never, ever addressing safety in a meaningful way - is simultaneously psychotic and disheartening? Also solved.
For the first time in the team's history, an actual proven defensive mind is minding the defense (huge offense meant toward Smith, Bush, and Vic Fangio). Then, there's his experience as a head coach, and his (hopeful) ability to work with Kubiak in meaningful ways.
Because, people, here's what we've got now. We've got an elite offensive coordinator coupled with an elite defensive coordinator. If Wade and Gary Kubiak can play nicely together? We'll need more kool-aid and a lot more rags.
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I haven't read it yet
Except for the first line – that is all I need to know yadda yadda yadda…
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
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OK, now I have read it all
I am glad I did – as I see my name being bandied about in your article :) But I will rec it anyways.
Those are 5 good reasons to be optimistic. I can see why you limited yourself to 5 on both the pessimism and optimism.
I am optimistic this year, then again – I usually am at the start of the year. The difference this year, is I am really excited about the team in all aspects of the game.
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
And that's important
Also, you’re welcome.
Anyway, I stood by my belief that our defensive play in 2009 was smoke and mirrors. 2010 started off incredibly well with the Colts game, but it plummeted thereafter. Now, we won’t really see jack in the pre-season, but I have a lot of reasons to believe this will be a…looking of the word here…be an NFL quality defense? That’s a tremendous change from last year, even if we’re no better than average.
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I am really interested in seeing the "new guys" this pre-season
That and they play of all CBs not named Joseph. I don’t expect to see a lot of stuff in pre-season otherwise.
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
After Connor Went down
That’s when the D decided to suck.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Nay sir.
Was, when meco went down
by Carter Liles on Aug 2, 2011 8:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Nope, they sucked against
Washington, Dallas, and New York.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Accually before we argue heavily about this...
Can we agree that losing barwin was a critical hit, and meco was the final blow?
by Carter Liles on Aug 2, 2011 8:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
No
Defense would’ve been a joke regardless. We succeeded in 2009 because we played some of the worst QBs in NFL history, not because we were good.
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It's kind of hard to say Barwin was a critical hit
when that was week 1.
It’s not like there was this extended period of good play before that.
2010 started off incredibly well with the Colts game, but it plummeted thereafter
wasn’t saying that Barwin was going to be a monster, just saying the moment he wen’t down that’s when things went a little more Vanilla
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
I just have a hard time buying that
there was this killer, incredible, world beating game plan set up, but as soon as our second year backup DE went down, the whole thing went to shit.
You don’t design your entire system around a second year back up, and you definitely don’t do that without any sort of contingency plan.
No, my friends, we would have sucked either way. We just might have sucked with a handful more sacks.
Even Frank Bush isn’t that stupid.
I think…. maybe….
by Vega on Aug 2, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
its crazy
but bush might honestly be that stupid. Even within the colts game, as soon as barwin went down the entire gameplan seemed to change, and we never saw anything approaching the creativity we saw in that game for the rest of the year.
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by nolander on Aug 2, 2011 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Nailed
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Still disagree
I will grant you that perhaps we lost the ability to instill a few creative plays, but I still don’t buy that that was the turning point of the defensive season.
Perhaps I’m misinterpreting the argument here, but what I think I’m reading is that we could have had a decent season had Barwin not gone down. If that’s the case, then why wasn’t he starting?
I still say that you don’t design an entire gameplan around a backup DE who, while he showed some promise in his rookie year, hasn’t actually proven that he’s a difference maker.
Perhaps we saw a few packages that were “new” and “creative” in the Indy game, but if you’re going to give Bush credit for that, then how is it possible that he couldn’t design anything around Mario or DeMeco.
Even if that was the case, there’s no way he would have been able to adjust those plays when other teams started accounting for them, and there’s definitely no way that Barwin alone could have prevented Pollard from sucking or Kareem from falling down.
I still say, we would have sucked anyway.
by Vega on Aug 3, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's a good point about last season
Last season, Barwin was a situational pass-rushing DE in a 4-3. This season he should be an OLB in a 3-4 which will put him on the field more often. And, if Barwin goes down this season in the first game, I don’t see the plan changing. I see Reed coming in and maybe the D doesn’t miss a step. But, last season was last season. This is a new season. New players, new DC, new system, new outlook. Pollard will be gone. Kareem might suck, but not for an entire game or season, because he will find himself on the sideline watching if he is sucking.
But, if you want to focus on last year, sure, I will concede the point that it wasn’t the loss of Barwin that single-handedly sunk the ship. It was the combination of a lot of factors. I will give the FO some credit. They did a good job of identifying last year’s weaknesses and made some excellent upgrades to take care of them. The combination of factors from last season have seemingly been corrected.
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I completely agree
Losing Barwin may have thinned out our pass rushing options but I don’t see that as being a critical hit. Losing Meco was a critical hit in the sense that he was the captain of the defense and his responsibility was to make sure everyone was in the right place and knew their assignments. Cushing obviously didn’t have the mental capacity to fill that role so it pretty much set the defense back and forced Bush to water things down even more, if that’s possible.
And once it became obvious that Bush “designed” his entire defense around that base set of players and coverages, and didn’t have a clue what to do once that unraveled, they resorted to playing it as safe as possible by overcompensating pass coverages and hoping Super Mario could save the world.
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Not quite a back-up.
At least, no more so than a nickel CB would be. Simply a starter in a different set.
Our D was terrible against Indy
People were already questioning our secondary by the end of that game. Manning threw for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns with a 109.8 passer rating. If it weren’t for Arian Foster keeping him off the field, they’d have shredded our secondary to the tune of 600+ passing yards.
by WhiskeyR on Aug 2, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not until the second half, really.
Manning looked confused for the entire first half.
The front 4 generated a lot of pressue in the first half
That had him rattled for a while. Long enough for us to jump out to a lead and hold on.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Go ahead. Knock one out, too.
I lol’d
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
by Joe25 on Aug 2, 2011 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I turned off the lights, grabbed a whiskey and lit a cigarette
Ah, who are we kidding… I fell asleep.
I'm at work right now.
But that didn’t stop me.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
nice.
and i agree on all points. i’d also add the fact that even though the first 6 games of the season are fairly difficult, i would counter that with our defense is the ace. nobody has seen it. there’s no tape, nothing they can really look at to get a feel. sure, you can look at his defense from dallas. but how do you plug in the names as it relates to the texans for the positions? you don’t know if it’s gonna be barwin and cush and smith on one side.. or mario, JJ and meco coming. it’s so many variables so it’s totally within the realm of possibility that we may win a bunch of games due to the fact that it’s gonna be difficult to scout us in the first half of the season.
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I love that Peyton Manning won't have much tape to watch.
That should help equalize things for a half.
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by TexansDC on Aug 2, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Nice point.
Hadn’t considered it and you gotta believe peyton won’t be comfortable goin’ in blind, like totally.
Playing devil's advocate here
We’re talking about Peyton Manning here. He’s pretty much seen every defense there is, and there aren’t too many that throw him off his game. Contrary to popular opinion, there is a ton of tape on Wade Phillips defenses. The dude has been coaching for longer than most players have been alive. Just because the players names have changed doesn’t mean there’s anything new about his schemes so I’m not sure where everyone is getting this idea that it’ll be a total surprise. If Manning is off his game it’s likely due more to his neck injury than being clueless as to our new defense.
That being said, Wade’s system is still highly effective regardless of the amount of tape out there, which is a testament to his elite coaching abilities. It’s not overly complicated but he’s able to maximize the abilities of the players he has to work with and make adjustments during the course of a game to counter what the other team is doing…..you know, the stuff any DC not named Frank Bush is supposed to be able to do.
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I agree with this (as usual, I always agree with Hydroshock)
Also, Mario going against a rookie LT and (I believe) and rookie left guard will be helpful.
We have a lot of players returning from injuries and a lot of players changing positions. It may take several games before our defense is operating at it should. We’ve got the right coach putting players in the right places, but it may take some time.
I am still putting $100 on us to win.
Gambling!
Already have my $$ on the over (8.5) and to win the South (+180)
by DisplacedTexan on Aug 3, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Mario Williams's Top 3 Favorite FA signings...
1. Jonathan Joseph
2. Danieal Manning
3. Charlie Johnson to Minnesota
Bring on the rookie!!!!
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by pholmesandhtexans on Aug 3, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
while Manning may have seen Wade's defenses before
I think its important that he has not seen this particular group of players running his defense. What Wade does which each player can still be a mystery, as well as how these players perform in the defense, ie what weaknesses they have to exploit.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
i think our defense will be better but im more on Hydros side of the fence
I think Peyton and Indy’s offense are more focused on what they want to accomplish than what the defense is doing. The hand gestures and pointing are nice, but the bottom line is Peyton has a game plan for getting his offense in its rhythm. Some of this is predicated on what the defense is doing, but I dont think the defense is going to dictate to Peyton what he wants to do. He has a history of going for 7 on 3rd and shorts late in games just because that is what he wants to do, rather than it being what the defense is offering.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 3, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
My point entirely
How Wade will utilize each player….and the rotations….and how each player performs are still unknowns. I’ll take all the unknowns I can get against 18. He’ll figure it out by halftime anyhow…but a brief advantage is better than nothing.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I think Peyton will just look for K-Jax
Do I really need to expand on this?
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 3, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
He should be tough to spot lying prone behind the line of scrimmage...
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by DilloTex on Aug 3, 2011 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Staring at the Houston bench
during the play sounds like a good way to get sacked by Mario.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Well he'll know one thing for sure
90 will be coming on every play, and that’s enough to rattle anyone.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Ok seriously, the whole fapping things getting a lil old.
And this is coming from a teenage boy!
by Carter Liles on Aug 2, 2011 8:44 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Hater
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the fap is weak in this one.
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Or maybe he just gets more action?
Had to say it. You handed me that one.
You give me a football, and you give me a dream. You give me the game of football and you give me a life long job.
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blasphemy
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by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 3, 2011 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Broncos land former Patriots DE Ty Warren with a 2-year, $10 million deal that includes $2.5 million guaranteed.
Five times more
Sheesh. That is NOT the minimum, Ty. So much for wanting to play on a contender.
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seriouslly wtf?
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One year, 4 million.
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by riversmccown on Aug 2, 2011 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Why? Ellis is young, and Rogers/Franklin are old.
Rogers and Franklin are only a stop gap measure at a position the FO has been neglecting.
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Well it's my rationalization for why they'd collect three nose tackles.
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by riversmccown on Aug 2, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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GREGG WILLIAMS. ALREADY. IMPREGNATED WITH HIS BABIES.
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Maybe...
If we sign Vickers we can put Casey at NT…We can start the new trend of using tight ends on defense I’m sure Kube’s can find some versatility there somehow
Casey actually has real experience throwing the ball
He would have been Rice’s QB if he went back for his senior year
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by The Night Owl on Aug 3, 2011 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions
easter egg
you found it! Yeah I knew that and was messing around here, good job with the spotlight =P
Didn't they just switch back to a 4-3?
Me no understand.
Here's a little sumthn sumthn for point numero cinco
From today’s practice…take it away Mr. Quin:
I feel better and natural back there. I just feel like that’s what I was born to do…
If that doesn’t optimism you, I don’t know what would. Annnnd…the pic they have up on the front page of the mother ship right now is just plain ol’ bad ass.
Optimisim
I go into every season super-optimistic. Almost nothing can discourage me about the home team. After seeing so many people reiterate the points in this article throughout this week and last, I feel super-extra-optimistic.
"We're goin with what we got"
Glad you mentioned the O-line
Needed the reassurance. Today two coworkers told me the line sucked last year. I almost started to shout at guys I hardly know. They were somewhat surprised since I’m always laid back, but they were barking up the wrong tree.
by Ryan81 on Aug 2, 2011 8:57 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Im terrified
That for, whatever reason, the line is gonna take a,step back or something like that
by Carter Liles on Aug 2, 2011 9:00 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
OMG
bad thinkings, don’t penetrate my mind, only good thoughts this year! especially in the optimism thread. That being said, I’m surprised after reading that bit that they were ranked where they were by ProFootballFocus. I figured they would be ranked a bit lower in pass coverage and “overall.”
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Aug 2, 2011 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly...
That’s crazy talk. We don’t “look” like a classic OL because of the ZBS, but these guys are good. In addition, there is no team better – and it’s not close – at getting to the second level than the Texans’ oline. When it comes to C play in the ZBS, nobody can hold Chris Myers’ jock.
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I agree they are great
But I cannot for the life of me figure out that “stat math”
2nd Best over all
4th in run blocking
12th in pass protection
I guess the 3 better run block teams really sucked at pass blocking – well 2 of them anyhow.
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
The 2nd overall was from PFF
4th and 12th was from FO
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
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Thanks, Autra
Sorry for the confusion, B.
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No worries
I wasn’t doing anything with my left hand anyway
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
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by Autra on Aug 3, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
My mind was going numb trying to figure that out
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 3, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I still remember when we all hated that guy
He was injured though. being healthy and improving otherwise.., man Chris Myers is awesome.
I know there,good.
And im basing it on absolutley nothing. Just a feeling I have.
by Carter Liles on Aug 2, 2011 11:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm with whiskey
He could be elite – be definitely wasn’t last year
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
hardly
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Aug 3, 2011 12:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
say if anybody wants to look at players salaries go here.
i think it is pretty close.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/
Actually that's how his rookie contract was
He made 4 million last year, but he’s cap friendly this year
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by The Night Owl on Aug 3, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh we picked up his 1st round contract from the Dolphins.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
BREAKING: bfd writes vomit inducing article
Witnesses on the scene are describing it as the absolute worse article ever written, and claims are already pouring in that JAGS AND Baltimore fans, and perhaps even Anna-Megan Raley could do better. They are absolutely disgusted and are considering a mass ragequit.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
by DaGoaT on Aug 2, 2011 9:19 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
/NUTT'd
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
LOL
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I want to be optimistic
but I can’t.
I was talking at lunch today with a friend of mine. We decided that Houston is doomed to sports suckdom. Rockets – suck. Lastros – suckitude to the max. Dynamo? Who? The other other football. Who cares.
Other teams this year have been saying “Super Bowl” – Eagles, Patriots, others. What did Bob say the other day in the chronicle? “Playoffs”.
Shoot higher guys……
Remember Clutch City?
Look, I know it’s been a long time, but this city HAS won championships. It can happen again.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 2, 2011 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sorry BFD
the Rudy T days are long gone.
Come to the present. All Houston sports teams suck.
I refuse to get my hopes up, just to get kicked in the nuts (remember, from 2-0 to 6-10).
They're trading Kool-Aid for bleach at the bottom of the string...
Anybody remember when you could buy those goofy plastic Kool-Aid pitchers?
I remember the glass ones
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
if you cant ride the ship down with the team for awhile
than youre just not a real fan
if only there were 22 sage rosenfels out there
by gm.in.waiting on Aug 3, 2011 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Good luck with that low expectation thing
I’m sure it saves you a lot of disappointment in life.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
heres what he can look forward to
girl “wanna fuck?”
kidaster “my tiny penis would NEVER satisfy you, so its nest I dont try and we remain friends”
girl “ummm ok”
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 3, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
best*
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 3, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Try to pile on some more personal attacks in these posts next time
I hear it makes Tim a happy panda.
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by riversmccown on Aug 3, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry, cant stand half ass, whiny, downer "fans"
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 3, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
what a pussy POV
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 3, 2011 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I think i read an article on Bob McNair a few days ago..
and he was quoted saying he was not going to be satisfied with just making the playoffs, he wants to be a contender.
Dynamo. Aeros.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I'm sorry but I can't disagree more.
It’s more of an expected thing to say “I wanna win the super bowl! thats my goal!”. only 1 team wins a year. 31 lose. typically its a pool of about 10 teams who have put themselves in the position to have a chance to get there. if an undefeated pats team who set all sorts of crazy records on offense couldn’t punch it thru, then there is clearly no magic formula to winning. How many times has Rex Ryan called his impending super bowl victory? no matter how active in FA you are, no matter how many Epic players you have grabbed, it doesnt guarantee squat even if they are all healthy.
how would you react if the Panthers started parading how they were gonna shoot for a super bowl victory this year? it would be laughable at best. that is not to say they can’t try but at the end of the day, talk is cheap and in this league, it’s all about putting yourself in the best position you can because nothing is for certain.
as a side note, I predict the Eagles go 11-5. win division. lose in first game of playoffs. (i’ll pick on them since they seem to be this years “Team to Beat”)
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 3, 2011 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions
forgot my tie in..
If Uncle Bob said playoffs, then as far as I’m concerned, thats a good goal, seeing as how you cant GET to the super bowl without the playoffs and we have not even gotten to them yet.
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 3, 2011 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Our first goal needs to be win the division. Second goal get to the playoffs.Anything is possible once your in.
Re: Win the division
Exactly. If you do that you’re an automatic bid. I’m a firm believer in adjusting your goals once you accomplish them. You can’t win the Super Bowl if you can’t make it to the tournament.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I agree too
but winning the division and making the playoffs are the same goal. If anything, making the playoffs is the first goal (since one doens’t have to win the division to make the playoffs).
You’re quite right that once we’re in the playoffs, anything can happen. Its anyone’s game at that point no matter who we play. There isn’t a team in this league we are incapable of beating.
so go root for the eagles or pats then
the city of houston has enough transplants and bandwagoners that you wont be missed. If all youre concerned with is the end result and not the journey thats fine. If youre tired of supporting teams that dont win championships thats fine. But its also weak. The Rockets are one of the only teams outside the Spurs, Mavs, Lakers and Bulls that can claim an NBA title in the last 20 years. Seattle would love to be rooting for a loser right now. The Astros were excellent for a decade. Royals fans have been waiting 30 years to get back to that point. The Texans havent made the playoffs in 10 years. Do you think Lions fans are signing up for Sunday Ticket so they can switch allegiance to a ‘winner’?
The city of Houston doesnt have the extensive tradition of Philly or Pittsburgh or New York and we dont have the concentration of multi-generational families so its not always the cool thing to say you love the Houston teams. You know what? I dont give a shit. I was raised here and plan on raising my family here. Im proud to be a Houstonian and ill root for the teams that rep this city.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 3, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 12 recs
Thanks I was thinking this but only harsh, inappropriate words came out
"////let it pan out before you kick da plan out\"
-mitmil22
by theSpaceCityKid on Aug 3, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
loyal houstonian here
rec’d
"We're goin with what we got"
by silentassassin on Aug 3, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
speak the truth brother
I love this City and team and will never stop being a Texan’s fan.
rec’d that shit
Not a Houston resident....
but was born there and for some reason still have a sick and twisted affinity for the city and it’s sports teams.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
our offensive line is the most underrated in the league
and i think glover quin will be the leader in picks and can end up with 5-10 picks
You're not going to believe this but, the writer's #1 is also my #1! Incredible coincidence!
This just chronicles how like-minded bfd and I are!
That’s right! We both feel that beer is the reason why we should be optimists when it comes to the Texans. There are very few who know this, but Wade Phillips is a beer-lover and because of that, he is loose, jovial, and aggressive when he needs to be. He will be sending at least one LB on a blitz on every single play and sometimes two, three or even all four. The other team has no idea which LB is coming or from where. That is the genius and thanks to a few frosties, it will always be unpredictable.
So, loosen up your hamstrings boys, with a few beers and look out, because it’s coming!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Beer in the cooler on the sidelines?
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Andre
“…I felt it out of place and I popped it right back in. I didn’t know the bone had broke the skin until I took my glove off, so I really wasn’t in a lot of pain or anything like that. It was just more concern about the bleeding."
I don’t know how to do the fancy blue special thing for a quote. But I have a feeling I wouldn’t handle the situation of dislocating a finger as he did.
by wkittinger on Aug 2, 2011 10:17 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
The only way that quote would be better
If he would have said – it felt kind of like when hand was pounding Innegan’s head.
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Honey Badger Dont Give A Shit!
Look at him, Dislocating fingers and shit, He dont care! He just wants to win!
Bleeding everywhere from your finger and dont care…. You nasty Honey Badger
Where bfd and I part ways is #2
I think, other than beer-loving Wade Phillips, the Texans will benefit from players that will be there this season that weren’t last season. Count them. One, Ben Tate, who was lost in the preseason last year and never saw the field during league play, will be spelling Arian Foster and proving to be a huge goal line TD machine. Two, Conner Barwin, who appeared in less than one quarter before getting his ankle rolled on, will be terrorizing opposing QBs and taking an entire season of angst out on them. Three, DeMeco Ryans, lost for the second half of last season is back in his captain role, and he will flourish in the 3-4. Four, Brian Cushing, not with the team the first four weeks and hobbled trying to tie down the middle when DeMeco left, will have a new demeanor as he will be asked to get after the QB in his more natural role of rush LB. Five, quality starting Ss Manning and Quin along with new cover corner Joseph, is a new dimension in this defense that has never been seen before and will be cleaning up the loose balls flying from the fleeing QBs. Six, Brooks Reed, who will be quality depth at a position of priority in this defense and won’t it be nice to know that there won’t be dropoff in get-after when someone comes out!
So there!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Aug 2, 2011 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
this man speaketh the trutheth.
"It's very SIMPLE angela!!!!! LOOK AT WHAT I'M DOING... AND GO TELL SOMEBODY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!" - Andy
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Rip
How is it you always say what I was going to say, only quicker?
Rec’d
Better weightspeed
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
In that case
Rip must be very fast, cause I got the weight thing down.
I would also add that most people tend to forget that Owen Daniels will be back healthy this season.
Towards the end of the 2010 season, we saw that OD was starting to look like the OD from 2008 and pre-injury 2009. The offense should be as good as last year based on that itself.
True.
I don’t think people realize how big of a part OD is to this O-ffense. He’s basically the #2 option to Schaub. I’m looking forward to him returning to his Pro-Bowl self this year.
According to reports on training camp, most people are saying he's really looking like the pro bowl OD
Running good slants and catching anything that comes his way.
rec'd, well done. May as well also include Mario at full strength
who basically was hiding a double sports hernia the last half of the season.
I left out JJ Watt who is a welcome addition
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
who saw the video of andre getting injured?
i know they weren’t wearing pads and weren’t going all out, but rashard looked really good in man-coverage
ive been trying to find it on the internet but cant find it
its been on sportsnation and on nfl network though
by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 2, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions
How would the NFL network have it
with no coverage
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
heres the video of andre running the slant route and getting injured
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/sports/pro/football/teams&id=8284361
thanks jtr
by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 3, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Wait
A defender covering on a slant? wth?
Can they do that?
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 3, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
"Allowed to" and "can" are two different things.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 3, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
semantics naziism for the win...
What a confused kitty… a Meowist Semantics Nazi… That has to hurt.
"Thank you for setting us straight on that Mr. Lombardi...Your cogent use of logical argument backed by your impressive knowledge of the smallest details of the modern professional game has made believers of us all."
- tehGrindCrusher
"understand" and "rationalize" are two different things.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
...mmmmm... yes?
"Thank you for setting us straight on that Mr. Lombardi...Your cogent use of logical argument backed by your impressive knowledge of the smallest details of the modern professional game has made believers of us all."
- tehGrindCrusher
yeah i was thinking the same thing
I think the corners we drafted are going to suprise alot of people.I havnt seen alot of film on them or anything but I just got a good feeling about them.
Newbie here..
Having a Super Bowl or Bust mentality is the wrong thought process to have. Do we all want to win the Super Bowl? Yes. Know what you’ve gotta do before getting there? Contend. Now I’m not saying we should be happy with a first round exit..but making the playoffs makes us contenders, which is what Bob wants.
I’ve lurked on this board for a while and I really don’t think I’ve seen it this, dare I say, happy..in a long while. If we set ourselves up for Da Soup or Bust and not make it, all we do is go back to chugging bleach and cursing the FO or anything we can point a finger at. So lets be happy in knowing that we’re not having ESPN shove our team down the Nation’s throat and making us hated. Rejoice in the fact that while we might not be a sexy pick, we still have to go out and play these games and prove Berman and the rest of them wrong.
Be proud of your Texans and start buying stock in Kool-Aid while it’s low and you can make money from selling off all that bleach stock.
by Broward83 on Aug 2, 2011 10:37 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 12 recs
It's goo'd
and welcome
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
sǝɹnʇɐuƃıs uʍop ǝpısdn ʇnoqɐ sʇuǝɯɯoɔ ǝuo ou
by Barryfromtexas on Aug 2, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Welcome, Broward
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
by Tim on Aug 3, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Well said Broward... .5 rec for sentiment and .5 rec for newbness
"Thank you for setting us straight on that Mr. Lombardi...Your cogent use of logical argument backed by your impressive knowledge of the smallest details of the modern professional game has made believers of us all."
- tehGrindCrusher
Nice read
I also believe that our special teams are going to be much improved (really couldn’t get much worse) with the addition of Manning to return the few kicks that don’t land in the Bullpen. Also, with the addition of more linebackers (vs. 10 defensive linemen) to block and cover kicks, field position should improve dramatically. Lastly, this Hartmann kid could be the x factor. Dude has a huuuuge leg and could be used for kickoffs and long field goals in addition to punting. Hopefully Coach Joe can teach him the finesse and accuracy needed for placing shorter punts.
All of this unfounded optimism isn’t really that unfounded given the improvements, on paper.
It's Our Time.... or something...
by bennprince on Aug 3, 2011 12:40 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 2 recs
i agree
we’re flat out better in almost every way and have improved alot from last years team
by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 3, 2011 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Good point about special teams
Guys like Keo and Manning should really help get ST back on track.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Also, I think we should target Tatupu.
I’m not confident Cush can be the same guy without the juice, and DeMeco’s injury was a pretty devastating one. We should go for someone that’s a legit starter imo instead of just depth.
by thelundquist on Aug 3, 2011 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
definitely
lofa tatupu has been getting interest from the bears and bucs, but hasn’t signed anywhere yet…
but would he sign here knowing he wouldnt start?
by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 3, 2011 12:53 AM CDT up reply actions
probably not,
but implying that he could compete might be enough, but, then again, he’s probably too expensive anyway…
by thelundquist on Aug 3, 2011 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions
He's had two knee surgeries and he's not about to sign with a team just to be quality depth.
He left Seattle because they wouldn’t pay him what he wanted. As much as I’d like to see him come here, there’s no way the Texans sign him.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 3, 2011 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions
If we double the knee surgeries on our MLB it helps, right?
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That makes a lot of sense to me.
Tatupu hasn’t been really special for a while, but if Ryans isn’t coming all the way back (a real possibility) then a bona fide starting MLB would be a good idea.
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I really don't know where the money situation is.
You can’t pay him what he’s looking for, almost certainly.
But its also getting bleak and cold for the FAs that are still out there. The big money is gone, very good guys are taking cheapish one year deals.
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I'm not sure it's couldn't afford so much as wouldn't afford.
Ty Warren is coming off an injury and that probably worried the FO. Also, since NE really needs D line (so much so they signed Haynesworth) and they let him go, that’s concerning.
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I agree.
If he flashes the form that got him the big deal, he’s a steal. If not, he’s out. All the same, would you count on him?
You have to have a coach in total control of his team to play that game. I wouldn’t say the Texans are in that situation.
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The Dreamshake
i brought this up a couple days ago
I think Tatupu is going to sit back and wait for the best situation, ie an injury so he can leverage the most money from a team. I know he hasnt been all that great since his rookie year, but if it looks like Demeco isnt the same guy. Id like them to take a look.
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god please dont let ryans injury b the achiles heel of this years texans team
by FU Nnamdi on Aug 3, 2011 1:39 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
no pun intended i'm sure... lol
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 3, 2011 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions
This...completely.
I agree with the article and after the FA signings and addition of Son of Bum am more optimistic than I’ve been in a long time…but the gripping, alcohol pool diving fear that someone will get hurt just as the Texans are hitting stride still lingers heavily. Please football gods…mercy…I beg you….
Spurs/Texans/Horns...everyone else to the back of the bus.
That study and Doctor interview that Steph put up basically said that....
…even if Meco comes back at full strength (which is not likely) he will likely not reach full potential again until next season probably.
I thyink we need to temper our expectations of what Meco can accomplish this season and hope to be pleasantly surprised.
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by TexansForever on Aug 3, 2011 7:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate it when I'm late to the party... rec'd
- Abusive
- Twisted
- Funny
…these are a few of my faaaavorite things…
Good job, bfd.
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Love how we got thrown under the bus here...
“How can Total QBR claim to be comprehensive if, for example, Peyton Manning(notes) gets the same rating for shredding the Houston Texans’ 2010 Swiss cheese pass defense as he does for putting up big numbers against the defenses established by Dick LeBeau and Rex Ryan? "
Besides isn’t it called the Ole’ defense?
Yes, "Swiss Cheese" is for sure the wrong name
Because it implies that although it has some holes, it is still a solid object. I’d go maybe for the “Grass Defense” — it’s on the field, but can’t prevent a pass from being completed.
Even if our D this year is strictly mediocre, it’s going to look great to me though, so that’s one good thing about sucking hard the previous year.
"A threat is about a verb short of a win..." - TEXSON
You deny our defense was Swiss cheese last year?
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Not denying at all...
But we weren’t last place on defense… I think someone else was.
But we were last in pass defense
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by The Night Owl on Aug 3, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
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Can you please login under your new user name, FU Nnamdi. The password and other info should be the same. Thank you.
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MDC taking care of that.
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Texans have agreed on a two- year contract witn FB Lawrence Vickers.
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by flowda on Aug 3, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Hell yeah!!!!
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 3, 2011 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
I know it's been discussed before but
It looks like Chris Johnson is going to sit out for a while. HA… hope he sits out the whole damn season. Who the hell is the BESF’s second string running back anyways?
Javon Ringer I think.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Javon Ringer
He wont sit out too long. He is losing 30,000 a day!
by ketchuppants7 on Aug 3, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn thats alot of bread
But I would be cool with having to face Matt Haselback and Javon Ringer. I know our D would be liking their chops.
McClain_on_NFL John McClain
Vickers’ deal is two years, $3 million and &500,000 to sign.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
That was about the money I was expecting him to earn.
He’ll be good in this system. Very FB friendly offense.
11 Mil 3 years.
3.7 Mil a year…. Significant savings of 2.2 mil….
vickers is good
but would the 2m been useful for continuity’s sake?
KP
What do you mean?
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
vickers is 80% of vonta
and is two years younger, and can CATCH the ball.
This was the way to go
I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter
really curious to see vickers catching ability
seems like it was something that never made it out of his scouting report. if true, could be great for us.
KP
id rather see more 3 TE sets with OD shifting out to the slot like Dallas Clark
forcing the opposing defense to make a decision between base defense and nickel. If the defense switches to nickel to cover OD in the slot, run at their ass. We know Dreesen is a solid in line blocker and Casey is an excellent cut blocker. I think it makes better use of the strengths of the personnel and creates match up problems. Adding a FB to the backfield begs the defense to bunch the box. 3 TEs spreads em out. Indy has been doing it to us for years. See how they like it for a change.
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by Stash Musial on Aug 3, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
just keeping the unit together on offense.
It seems like we had the 3m to give him, but thoguht we could upgrade DL (warren) while getting a cheaper alternative. figure that leadership/chemistry with Arian could have been worth it. not complaining though, esp if we get LB depth
KP
No we did not have 3 Mil to give him.
We have to restructure contracts to pay all our FA acquisitions based off of 610 sportsradio.
Well I'm not sure of our cap
But Vonta got I think 3.9mil per year from the Ravens which was more than we could match. Plus we do need some depth at LB and Vickers 1.5mil per year is really manageable.
No matter how bad it gets,I will believe.It's the only thing I have left for the Texans.
Yeah there was no way we could of kept Vonta with what we did in FA
I hope we do get some depth at LB with FA. Realistically though, I doubt are going to pay any LB we bring in more than 1 Mil….
Some more optimism
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/788289-offseason-report-cards-for-all-32-nfl-teams/page/14
At least we aren’t the only ones optimistic about our upcoming season
bleacher report is not the greatest source of anything useful
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by Stash Musial on Aug 3, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions

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