You Keep Playing Shaun Cody. I Do Not Think He Does What You Think He Does.
Glorious And Exalted Leader touched on it in this post earlier today, and it's been patently obvious to anyone who has watched more than five minutes of either preseason game, so I am not exactly breaking new ground when I say that the Texans' run defense (especially up the middle) has been about as effective at stopping penetration as a cellophane chastity belt. Well, I have good news and I have bad news about that.
The good news is that the problem is easy to diagnose.
The bad news? The problem is personnel-related. (And, by "personnel," I mean "Shaun Cody" and --- to a lesser extent --- the ILBs.)
First, let's take a peek at how Wade Phillips' defense is supposed to work when it comes to defending runs between the tackles.
Here's your basic alignment, strongside left, sans WRs/CBs:
The first thing that should jump out at you is that the defensive front three do not spread evenly across the offensive front. J.J. Watt is lined up in a 3-technique position, on the outside shoulder of the right guard; Shaun Cody, your nominal nose tackle, is in a 2i-technique position over the inside shoulder of the left guard; and Antonio Smith is playing the 5-technique outside the left shoulder of the left tackle. This alignment leaves a noticeable space over the right-side (from the offense's perspective) A-gap. (Note: I've seen Cushing in both the SILB and WILB positions, so feel free to flip-flop the ILBs in your head if that better fits your preconceived notions.)
This alignment is based on how Wade's one-gap system works in a best-case scenario. To wit:
When working properly, Wade's system of run defense is deceptively simple. The OLBs take the C-gaps (or maintain backside discipline if the run is away from them), the DEs take the B-gaps, and the NT takes one A-gap. The other A-gap is filled by one of the ILBs (in this example, Cushing). The other ILB plays the middle, shaded slightly toward the strong side in case the run is a counter, and both safeties come forward in position to collapse to the middle or get to the edge if necessary.
Gaps plugged, run stopped, high-fives and chest-bumps for all!
When it's not working properly, however? Well, then you get what you saw on the Saints' first play from scrimmage Saturday night:
The entire problem starts at the nose. Rather than shoot his gap, Shaun Cody gets hit by the LG and C, and blocked harmlessly out of the play. At the same time, the lead-blocking FB hits Cushing, preventing Cushing from getting penetration at all. Sharpton Adibi (who I misidentified as Sharpton) shooting toward the same gap that Cushing was trying to fill, gets caught up in the wash and can't get there. Pierre Thomas, following his lead block, has no problem getting to the second and third level, and he gains 13 yards before being brought down by Kareem Jackson.
It doesn't exactly take a rocket surgeon to diagnose the problem(s) here. First and foremost, Cody's inability to be a factor on defense takes on a whole new level of importance in 2011. If he can't penetrate --- the one time the Saints let him so as to better set up the screen notwithstanding --- he's literally worthless to this team. Actually, that's not even true. If he's getting blocked out of every single play (and he is), he's bringing negative value to the team.
Second, Cushing has got to fight through lead blocks more effectively. He almost seemed surprised to get popped by the FB on this play --- the hit stood Cushing up and the play just went right by him. At the same time, this is related to the Cody problem; when he gets blocked out of the play from the snap, the hole through A-gap is so wide, it could be a Kardashian. On top of which, if the NT were getting penetration, the timing of the play and the efficacy of the lead block would be altered.
Third, Adibi took a terrible angle on his blitz and let himself get blocked out of the play rather than maintaining assignment discipline. I chalk that up to being overly excited on the first play of the game, so it's much, much less of a worry in my book.
So, what to do? Or, to quote Ray Zalinksy, "Great, you've pinpointed it. The next step is washing it off."
Well, the NT problem is fixed to a large degree by playing Earl Mitchell (and I'd even like to see Damione Lewis and Scooter Berry playing that position before Cody). Mitchell's not Jay Ratliff, and he'll never make people forget about Ted Washington, but he seems to have a much better grasp of his role in this defense and the ability to perform his job duties. For example, just sticking with the Saints game, on 2-and-10, late in the third quarter, Mitchell rode the Saints' center into the backfield, located the running back trying to go left off-tackle, and make the tackle for no gain. Sure, it's just one play, and it was against the Saints' B-team, so you have to take it with a grain of salt. But, still, if Cody is appreciably better than Mitchell, such that Cody is on the Texans' A squad and Mitchell on the B, then shouldn't Cody be able to do something similar against the Saints' A-team as Mitchell did against the B? Conversely, if the difference between them really is minimal, then shouldn't the edge go to the guy who has at least shown an ability to do what you need him to do, regardless of whether it was the Saints' starters or not?
Don't get me wrong; in no way am I suggesting that Earl Mitchell is a panacea. Truth is, this style of defense is going to have issues up the middle, regardless of who is at NT. We've known this all along. When Wade was hired back in January, I wrote:
Like any defense, Phillips' scheme has its flaws. First and foremost, the defense leaves the middle open a lot, which can be especially damaging against a power running team. [W]hen a running back beats the initial wave of linemen and blitzing linebackers, he is pretty quickly into the open, with only the deep safety and (possibly) the closer safety having much of a chance to catch him.
The second flaw, related to the first, is that teams can plan knowing that the middle is going to be open a lot, meaning that teams with athletic TEs or teams who run a lot of slants/dig routes can find success and can base their offense around that hole. This weakness can be countered somewhat by utilizing the Strong OLB in TE coverage and keeping one of the ILBs home if the other is blitzing, but then you start to negate some of your options in the pass rush. You can also counter this weakness by generating enough pass rush that there's no time for TE drags or 10-yard dig routes to develop.
Point being, it should not be a surprise that there is some amount of trouble with the middle runs, especially this early in the year. The surprise, such as it is, is that Shaun Cody has been so absolutely abysmal playing the NT role. If the team can just address this, preferably by admitting right now that Earl Mitchell is going to be the starter and letting him run with the 1s on Saturday, they'll take a large step toward fixing the glitch. (You know who else would have been good shooting the gap from a 2-technique NT position? Hint: his new team plays tonight. /sigh)
In fact, I'd go so far as to say that I am more surprised by Cushing's struggles against lead blocks. Or, at least I would be surprised, were these problems not perfectly in line with what we saw from Cushing last season. You know, like last December, when I wrote:
I suppose that the answer stems, in part, from whatever it is that has Cushing playing generally like a mediocre outside linebacker this season. Whatever that might be. You know ... like ... whatever could possibly have had him playing much better last year and is not helping him this year. Whatever that is.
When you toss DeMeco Ryans' pre-injury question marks last year and the current uncertainty around his recovery, along with the leap of faith it takes to believe that the Xavier Adibi that you've seen since August 15th is more indicative of his ability than the one you saw in the years prior to August 15th, inside linebacker actually is a bigger concern to me at this instant than is NT. At least the Texans have Earl Mitchell and could, therefore, address the Cody issue; at ILB, the only one I have a good feeling about right now is Darryl Sharpton.
If the Texans have to look elsewhere to fix either or both of these issues, there is still a modicum of talent available in the defensive tackle free-agent pool. Tony Brown, if he's healthy enough, might relish the chance to play his old team twice this year. Clifton Ryan should still have a little left in the tank. Speaking of tanks, Tank Johnson (whom Wade knows and has coached) is out there. John McCargo was there, until yesterday, which ruined my whole "maybe being back with Mario would be good for him" theory. Umm ... Pat Williams is old, and not really in the mold of what Wade looks for, but there's no chance that he's not a massive upgrade over Cody, especially in short yardage.
At ILB, the pickings are slimmer (both literally and figuratively, I guess), but there are some options. My favorite possibility is Channing Crowder, who has recently said that he does not, in fact, want to retire and wants to play in 2011. Rocky McIntosh is also intriguing to some extent. And that's about it.
Having said all of that about the Texans' problems and causes, I want to end on a more positive note. So, no matter what issues the team is having with the run defense right now, a few things bear keeping in mind. First, they won both preseason games, suggesting that this flaw is not necessarily fatal. Second, the team is allowing 4.0 yards/carry on 26.5 carries/game; last year, when the Texans had the easiest defense to pass on in the known universe, but the run D seem fairly decent, they allowed 4.0 yards/carry on 27.1 carries/game. Finally, just to quote myself one more time (posturbating!):
[E]very defense has its flaws, ESPECIALLY THE ONE WE'VE BEEN RUNNING IN TWO SIMILAR FORMS SINCE 2006. I'll be damned if I am going to let the idea that, "Oh noes, there's a hole in that defense!" prevent me from upgrading the current vanilla-blitzing, terrible-secondary-in-a-stupid-soft-zone, oh-my-lord-why-can't-we-stop-a-single-pass, I-think-I-want-to-die-yes-please-kill-me-now scheme.
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Tangent: What the hell is going on with Cody's hair? Seriously?!
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Good shit
The red hair is turrible
Pat Williams is still out there….
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by AllenOU on Aug 22, 2011 4:08 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
WTH is a rocket surgeon?
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by AllenOU on Aug 22, 2011 4:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
It's an obscure reference
to the movie Mystery, Alaska. Mike Myers character, Donnie Schulzhoffer says, “This is hockey, OK? It’s not rocket surgery.” For some reason, this cracked me up, and I’ve used it repeatedly since then.
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Is that where I got it?
I could never remember.
The blank stares I get whenever I say it crack me up more than the line itself
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
"Have you ever noticed that? We base our assessment of the intelligence of others almost entirely on how closely their thinking matches our own. I’m sure that there are people out there who violently disagree with me on most things, and I’m broad-minded enough to concede that they might possibly not be complete idiots, but I much prefer the company of people who agree with me."
^This
The moment of confusion makes it much funnier than it probably should be.
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The trick it finding the right people to use it on
Too smart and no sense of humor sucks, because they assume you’re an idiot and try to correct you.
The ones that are too stupid are used to not understanding a couple of words used together, so they just shrug it off.
Smart and with a sense of humor is perfect. “Wait, that’s not ri….dammit Autra” is the perfect response.
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
"Have you ever noticed that? We base our assessment of the intelligence of others almost entirely on how closely their thinking matches our own. I’m sure that there are people out there who violently disagree with me on most things, and I’m broad-minded enough to concede that they might possibly not be complete idiots, but I much prefer the company of people who agree with me."
I've used it in many of my presentations to room-fulls of bankers.
Some get it. Some look at me like I’m retard. 90% sleep.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Free Agent DT
Jamal Williams is available as well. Why wouldn’t he be worth a look? He’s 35, so he’s not quite ancient like Pat Williams. Do you think his price tag would be too much?
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I believe Williams has had more injuries lately
I’d rather have me some Big Pat in the middle as a short-yardage mountain.
"Lord, beer me strength."
They've been playing Lewis at DE a lot
From what I’ve seen. I think we get a strong dose of Cody for a while, but maybe something, anything, will happen to change that
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by AllenOU on Aug 22, 2011 4:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Yep
I watched Cody extensively on Saturday and the dude got nothing done, as you say in the post. No penetration, no push, no holding the point of attack…saw him get driven to the ground a few times…you can’t be a JAG in this defense at nose.
Mitchell can do it, but he’s also going to need a breather here and there. This is where I’ll pine for Amobi Okoye in a gap-shooter role….hope they’ll sign someone….and relegate Cody to the bench where he can play with his hair.
"Lord, beer me strength."
It probably didn't help that Cody stood up
Almost every play before he was blocked.
Why would he do that?
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 22, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
lulz
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 22, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I like how Cody got praise
for almost tipping that pass Mario almost picked off. “WTF is a NT doing over there?!” should have been Tillman’s response instead.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
he was plying end at the time
If you knew what you were looking at instead of listening to these other idiots, you would realize that cody was playing end on the play and since mario dropped into coverage in the flats, cody had contain and he really did make a good play, he read the screen perfectly.
by Texanschamp on Aug 23, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
MITCHELL IS TERRIBLE AGAINST THE RUN!
Stop watching the games through Cody hating goggles< if you did maybe you would notice how terrible Mitchell still is against the run. Re-watch without the goggles, and see Mitchell consisteantly getting pancaked 10 yards back. I dont doubt that Mitchell is a better pass rusher than cody (Most are!). But Cody is considerably better than mitchell dealing with double teams and screens. go back to the first game, first play that mitchell subs in for cody, he absolutely gets dismantled, crushed, pancaked, and they gashed us for 20 yards up the gut( maybe you thought cody was still in), and it continued into the game and also against the saints…I counted at least 5 plays that would be in the opposing o-linemans highlite films from mitchell….this post is focusing on a single play in an otherwise stout effort for cody, hes no star but for what he is, he usually is always in position and makes few mistakes. Inserting Mitchell now would expose his disasterous play against the run. WITH THIS ROSTER, ON 1ST AND 2ND DOWN CODY IS DEFFINETELY OUR BEST BET. TAKE OFF THE GOGGLES
Not bad
But Bryan is still the best Shaun Cody defender.
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by riversmccown on Aug 23, 2011 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Where is 90210 lately?
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Dying Cody's hair?
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on Aug 24, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
The capital letters
SHOW HE CARES
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 23, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, is that what those mean?
I was getting a totally different sense of what they demonstrated.
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by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting...

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by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Who am I going to believe, you or my lying eyes?
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 23, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I won't even consider the past seasons
Cody hasn’t done a thing this preseason except get walked or pancaked out of plays. Guy hasn’t done squat.
"Lord, beer me strength."
And then there's the minimal effort he gave during training camp.
And the pitiful play during 11-on-11 drills.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 23, 2011 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
if Kubiak and Philips think Cody is right for 1st team.....then who are these idiots?
Your analysis is sound and I’m happy to hear more of that here. Let’s talk real football instead of bashing one person in this TEAM sport.
His analysis?
[S]ee Mitchell consisteantly [sic] getting pancaked 10 yards back.
I’ve watched both games three times. This does not happen.
I dont [sic] doubt that Mitchell is a better pass rusher than ©ody (Most are!). But Cody is considerably better than [M]itchell dealing with double[-]teams and screens.
This is false. Conjecture != “analysis.” Cody has been man-handled by single blockers for the most part, as there is no need to double-team someone who can’t beat a single O-lineman. When he has been doubled, he’s been a complete non-factor. I challenge someone to point to a play in the first two preseason games where Cody beat a double-team and made a play.
[G]o back to the first game, first play that [M]itchell subs in for ©ody, he absolutely gets dismantled, crushed, pancaked, and they gashed us for 20 yards up the gut (maybe you thought ©ody was still in), and it continued into the game[.]
And, on the very next snap, Mitchell got a sack. In the third quarter, Mitchell made stops of 2 yards and no gain on runs up the middle. He also made a play when the run went off left guard, keeping the runner to 3 yards. In fact, the longest run up the middle after that play for the remainder of the game was 5 yards. But, yeah, it totally “continued into the game.”
[A]nd also against the [S]aints…I counted at least 5 plays that would be in the opposing o-linemans[’] highlite [sic] films from [M]itchell[.] [T]his post is focusing on a single play in an otherwise stout effort for ©ody[.]
This post focuses on one play as a microcosm of what the problem with run defense has been. Also, this comment just focused on one play in the previous sentence as if that one play proved or disproved anything. (Just because he tacked on “and it continued into the game” does not actually mean that it did, obviously.)
There was nothing “stout” about Cody’s effort. He was dominated from the first snap, did not create pressure, did not impact the Saints’ running game, and did not do anything else that would qualify as “stout.” Again, simply saying otherwise does not change reality.
[H]es [sic] no star[,] but[,] for what he is, he usually is always in position and makes few mistakes.
This is the part where I just assumed he was trolling. In no way, shape, or form is Cody “usually always in position” unless his position is “being a non-factor who gets in the way of other defenders by being pushed back at the point of attack.” He got penetration exactly once against the Saints … and it was a set-up for a screen.
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Man, I can’t wait for more of this “real football” talk. It’s so illuminating.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 25, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm glad I wasn't the only one seeing Shaun Cody wasn't doing jack crap at NT.
He was this crappy even at training camp.
Wade has to see that Cody is not worth the trouble…I hope.
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lol'd at the title... Easily amused, I know...
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I knew at least a few people over the age of 30
would laugh at that.
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ouch ... feels joints stiffening....
"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
- tehGrindCrusher
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
OK, I immediately got the rocket surgeon reference, and it took me a few moments to suss out the Amobi reference
but I’ve reread the title several times, and while I see the humor, I think I am failing to make the connection with some widely recognized tidbit of pop culture. Maybe my problem is I’m too far past 30, but please splain yourself so I can go to sleep tonight without trying to get the punchline.
Excellent analysis once again MDC. Our vunerability up the gut against a power running attack has to be getting Wade’s attention. If Meco & Cushing get back to 100% soon it will have to help, but the rotation at NT has to be changed.
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by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 22, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
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Thanks bfd, now I can sleep
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by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 22, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks MDC
Good read. Pretty much dead on with why the run has been so effective against us and after seeing those illustrations, it makes sense why Bum Phillips was saying yesterday that we weren’t shooting through the gaps. Gaps were not closed and that’s why the RB’s were able to get good gains.
I remember a coach lining up behind me and kickin' my ass through the gap on the snap of the ball.
Worked wonders though…
there u go timmy. crisis deverted. can i call u timmy?? - FTJ
Yup
Though even Precious couldn’t fill the A-gap after the NT had been blown out of the play. Though, come to think of it … maybe she could play NT?
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Haha
She probably could! Space eating 350+ pound line-woman? Check! But in all seriousness, Cody was getting pushed back so bad that he was being pushed into his own LB’s. Saints OLine player effectively took out two players with him being matched up on Cody.
i seen one play were he actually turned his back and tried to push backwards with his back and butt. i laughed out loud, and cried inside
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I amde comments about that play
He looked like a crawfish….or a gay boy testing the waters…
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Heeere we go...
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- tehGrindCrusher
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
i wonder if frank bush taught him that technique
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Re: Cushing at ILB
Great analysis and excellent job of pointing to the three headed monster that rears its ugly head when runs up the middle go for > 5 yards. ILB needs to fill / attack / shed, NT needs to take off the roller skates and avoid being pushed back into the other ILB, causing him to have to take the scenic route to a RB’s backside, 10 yards downfield. Honestly, if Cody can reduce being pushed 5-10 yards back to just 2-3 and the WILB properly fills the gap, the SILB should be able to clean up with only a 2-4 yard gain at best, which would be acceptable at this point.
OTH… seems to me a certain tailgating magnate pointed out Cushing’s lack of ability to take on lead blockers and backs on runs directed right at him. So, yeah, SOME of us are not surprised in the least at his inability to stuff the run up the middle. Oh yeah, said analysis was also published prior to Cushing being drafted, and his subsequent over training, on the blog of his running mate’s namesake.
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Good memory
I seem to recall a few people on the blog listing “can’t tackle RBs head on” and “too weak in the lower body to blow through lead blocks” among the reasons that we - er, they - didn’t want to draft Cushing.
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I don't want to overreact on Cushing too soon
Especially since he was probably playing last game at like 80%
But yeah, that was a tour de force of poor angles and not getting off blocks on Saturday. I was not encouraged.
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by riversmccown on Aug 22, 2011 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Definitely an issue
We stuck Shaun Cody on the all-KCW team last year less because he was abysmal than I saw no reason for him to actually exist. I think Mitchell looks better mostly by comparison. The Saints interior 3 can be tough to handle, but I thought the Jets did some of the same things. Just watching live, I suspected DeMeco coming back would help, just in terms of being assignment-sound, and it sounds like that was part of the issue.
Fwiw, this weakness up the middle stuff is why the Titans overhauled their DL scheme and personnel this offseason.
by NewsToTom on Aug 22, 2011 5:22 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Comparison
I agree that Earl benefits a LOT from being compared to the gaping hole of suck that is Shaun Cody. That said, I like that Mitchell seems to have grasped the “get up the field first, then find the ball” idea. Not saying he’ll ever be Warren Sapp, but he’s at least got upside.
What was the reasoning behind cutting Tony Brown?
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Knee's shot
GM Reinfeldt mentioned at this year’s TC-opening presser they knew his knee had issued when they signed him to an extension in April 2010, and they thought they’d get 2 years out of him but only got half a season (generous counting on his part).
Maybe I’m just inured to it from my years of TEN’s defense, but even if all Cushing does is stand up to FBs, that can be enough if DeMeco/Other doesn’t keep screwing up.
Ah.
That makes sense. I’ll scratch him off my wish list.
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I nocticed the run defense get a little better after the first couple Saints drives.
Was that because Mitchell was playing more or did the ILB’s step up? Couldn’t really tell I’ve only seen the game once.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I think Wade subbed Mitchell for Cody
during the Saints’ 1st possession… about two plays before Disrupticon scared Brees into dropping the ball. It was noticeably better after that, but still a weakness for the defense.
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Keep in mind too that our D has basically been practicing
against a zone blocking offense, and not a power run offense with two of the largest guards in the NFL like the Saints have. Kubiak admitted this in his latest presser (found on the mothership), and they’ll be scripting this more for the defense to practice against.
Cody and Cush are both liabilities in there right now with this setup. Frankly, I’d revamp things like this and see how it works:
DE – Watt, NT – A. Smith, DE – Mario
OLB – Brooks, ILB – ’Meco, ILB – Sharpton, OLB – Cushing
(Scheme options to swap all three front around as needed)
Cycle in Barwin, Adibi, Braman, Nading, Dobbins to gas the LB’s or for other schemes
Cycle in Mitchel, Jamison and the rest to gas the line
You know...
I was talking to a couple different people today, and the idea of Mario back at DE, to maximize our depth at OLB and get Cody off the field, was thrown out a few times. I don’t hate it, but I’m not in love with such a reset either. (In my scenario, Watt moves to NT, where his quickness would make him better than Jay Ratliff, and that’s not hyperbole.)
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I would like to Mario at DE
just a play or two
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
He does it in the nickle all the time
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 22, 2011 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions
he has
Just watch when he goes into a 3 pt stance. I think they only do that in a 4-3 set with Watt as DT and Mario as LDE.
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Watt would make a much better NT than Smith imo
But the ILB/NT prob may cause Wade to mix it up something that vaguely resembles that. /shrug
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2012 draft. NT-Alameda Ta'amu Washington 6'3 330 projected 2nd round ILB- Vontaze Burfict Arizona State 6'3 245 4.6-40projected 1st round
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Also...raiders got pryor? typical
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah he ran somewhere aroudn 4.34 or 4.38.
Typical speed pickup for Davis. He’s probably thinking he stole he next Randall Cunningham or Micheal Vick.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
off topic, but did u see the replay of them people fighting at the oak-san fran game? ooooh we, they was goin at it. i think thats what led to the shooting
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I've seen several fights on youtube.
It was all over the stadium.
Raiders/49ers are no longer going to play each other in the preseason because of the shooting and all the fighting.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
i dont really mind the fighting. i would be a hypocrite if i said i did. but looking at it from this perspective, it has to really suck for the people around them with children. the shooting tho, thats just really uncalled for.
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Trash talk is fine but when it gets into actually fist fights its gone to far IMO.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
yea, it shouldn't even get heated or to the point of name-calling
I used to think sports fans were more rationale than politicos while discusiing their passions. I used to be wrong about lots of other things too;)
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well, I should clarify that last part
Usually, football fans are more civil than those who discuss politics. But it seems like the potential violence is pretty high for both. I dunno, but when it gets ugly its time to leave.
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Nothing cool
Should ever be allowed in California.
Those people are the suck of all sucks, which is why God tries to kill them every year with earthquakes and wildfires.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
by beefy on Aug 23, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought Oklahomans were the suck of all sucks
which is why Texas didn’t fall off into the Gulf and/or why all flags in Texas point north.
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by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Just can't argue with science...
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prior was fast in the 40
…but would have been the slowest WR in the draft in the 3 cone and shuttle. Hell, he would have been towards the bottom for TE’S. People talking of him playing WR are crazy.
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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 8:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I'd rather us mold our next WR in the 2012 draft.
Talented, talented WR class coming up. I’d be ecstatic if we looked at Jeff Fuller in the 1st round as would many other Texas fans as he’s a local product. 2nd round, I’d go for ILB and possibly a NT in the 3rd round. Still too early though so my opinion might change depending on the outcome.
Yeah a higher round WR would be nice.
I don’t think the Dorin experiment is working out. There is still time for him but he hasn’t managed to stand out in any way yet besides that one handed catch on the Bucs in preseason.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I agree
Next year will be a top WR, an OL or two, and then find the largest space eating MOFO in this hemisphere. By the way, how did the Bills manage to get this guy (and the Texans missed?):
http://www.buffalonews.com/incoming/article412321.ece

What you don't realize is that the running back in that picture is 6-5 250lbs.....
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by TexansForever on Aug 22, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
he will be gone way before we draft.
cause you do know we will have the 32nd pick. I do have a feeling in though in next year draft we will have to go WR.
by southpaw70 on Aug 22, 2011 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i wouldnt draft a nose in the first round for the role we need him to fill. barring mitchell can provide pass rush
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
good point...we'll just have to wait to see how this year pans out i guess
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
My opinion of Crick
Crick got alot of hype when he played next to the Mutant Rhinoceros named Suh. Alot of fans wondered how he’d handle being the focal point. He did well, obviously. he had a game with 5 sacks so that bloated that number for the season, so take that how you will. He’s still solid and he gets off his guys and doesnt get pushed back. He’s no prodigy like #93 was tho…
As a NT in our system, it’s conceivable to think he would be successful. This year is going to be big for him to showcase what he’s got. if he had gone in last years draft, i’d guess that he’d be late first round talent, and depending on the needs of teams and the talent in the draft, perhaps slipping into the second. It’ll be interesting to see how he does this year tho.
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by BattleRedHusker on Aug 23, 2011 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
We got that little guy
Isn’t it Holliday?
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 22, 2011 6:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Seems he has bad knees already
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Ok lets try something guys. Does anyone want to take a stab at the 10 guys who will get cut on Aug 30th?
here is who i have
Jason Teague
Antonio Baker
Maurice rolle
Zach Pauga
Mister alexander
Matt Marocorelle
Guy Miller
Peter Hendrickson
Steve Slaton
Terrance Tolliver.
Yeah
Switch Holliday with Slaton
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 22, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Even Kubiak has to load a gun at some point
or we’ll have to remove his man card and his Texas citizenship
He's faking it... His little ass is scared!!!
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
I'd say switch Toliver with Slaton
I think Toliver makes it until the final cut, then he gets sign to the practice squad
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 22, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
All 3 UDFA WR's are in danger of not making the team.
Toliver hasn’t impressed the coaches like they hoped and Lestar has an in jury that might derail he hopes of making the team.
We brought in Darling it looks like as a possibly 4 or 5 and I’m thinking Dorin may hold on to his roster spot as well if for no other reason than he’s been here and knows the system.
Towsel wasn’t good on KR and that was his best chance of making the team.
If we only carry 3 RB’s than yeah Slaton is gone.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Hasn't impressed in Preseason so far.
Don’t think he’ll make the roster
He did make a short catch agaisnt the Jets.
Mostly he’s just been ST.
If he survives the first round of cuts we’ll see him a lot in the last preseason game.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
that is what it is going to boil down too.
who plays ST good. I have been wondering who has been doing the deep snap since weeks has not played yet?
He's been making some plays on special teams, that's about it
I don’t think I’ve seen him really put into the offense much
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 22, 2011 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
yea i think all three of them might not make the team.
darling looked good. i have yet to see anything from jeff maehl.
If any of them survive the first round of cuts next week hopefully we'll see of lot of them in week 4.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
sumbodies talkin to leinhart?
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
The smarter guys tryin to make the team are
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 22, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
ooooh...im trippin. my bad
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Jean will make the team... Bet on it.. He is the kind of reciever that Kubes loves== tall athletic with a decent set of hands
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Yeah, I believe Kubiak said his shoulder injury was minor
I think all the WRs other than Holliday & Townsel will remain on the roster through the 4th preseason game. At that point, the 4th & 5th WRs (and possibly a 6th WR) spots are up for grabs & will be an all out competition between Dickerson, Jean, Maehl, Toliver, & Darling
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by The Night Owl on Aug 22, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I know it won't happen
but I hope I see Shaun Cody and Antwaun Molden on that list. Maybe Teague will be out Molden and I’ll be at least a little elated.
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*beat out
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I don't see Molden making the final roster.
He’s so far down the depth chart and has had some real negative plays in the past two games.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
its not like he hasn't been given a chance
and I would rather have a smart player that is less physically gifted than one that makes the kinds of mistakes Molden does (or spends as much time on IR.)
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Reading this somewhere, Bill Kollar tents his hands
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by riversmccown on Aug 22, 2011 6:26 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
And complete obscures one of his linemen
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by MDC on Aug 22, 2011 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Here's the church..."
“…and here’s the steeple…”
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I've looked at this play about 15 times and I got a slightly different take on what happened
First of all, new Orleans interior is no slouch. I would say they are the best combo in the NFL. Evans was all pro the last two years, Nicks was one of the only haired on the NFL top100 list, and Kreutz was on the nfl’s all decade team. I expect to see them do this to a lot of teams. That being said, I picked up three players that looked like they missed there assignments. Here’s what I saw:
1) JJ Watt- Watt was lined up in a 3 technique to the play side. At the snap of the ball he takes on his blocker, but quickly shoots around him and flies upfield through the B gap, while running around the guard. He should have read the run and tried to have leveraged the RG into the A gap. Instead he ended up 6 yards upfield running himself out of the play.
2) Adibi- He had A gap and blitzed right before the snap. Kreutz absolutely destroyed him and shoves him all the way to the offensive tackle. I think this was the key block.
3) Cody- Like you said, he gets cut off. Doesn’t do enough to effect the play and basically gets blocked and stays blocked.
Cushing does a decent job of taking on the block, but that hole was so wide it was going to be difficult for him to make a play. Thomas is a good back and he did a good job of reading the fb’s lead block. I wouldn’t put that on Cushing.
It definitely needs to be cleaned up and I think we can do it. Demeco’s return will also help a bit. He’s a much better run stuffer than Adibi.
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good points, but not vastly different than what MDC is saying
Yo just happen to notice a few more details and missed assignments I think. In Watt’s defense, his job is to shoot that gap asap and like MDC said, it was the first play. If Watt had made the play I think it would’ve been seen as him making a great play, while the ILBs and NT clearly failed.
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Yo = you
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Thought you were getting hip there for a second...
there u go timmy. crisis deverted. can i call u timmy?? - FTJ
lol, I'm too old to be hip anymore
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Fantastic post
Good stuff again, MDC. As Larry David was recently quizzed, “Have you been doing performance enhancers?” You provided a mountain of very illuminating evidence to support a very logical conclusion… that should be obvious. Now, Wade needs to read our blog so that your post can do the magic that watching Cody fail in-person did not.
When I re-watched the first half yesterday, I noticed a big difference when Mitchell came into the game on that first Saints possession. I think it was only 2 plays later when Disrupticon scared the football outta Brees. Cody is a huge liablity in this defense.
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I'm watching the game tonight on MNF
David Carr is battling Sage Rosenfails for the job of Eli’s jock buffer.
I don’t have a punchline. Don’t need one.
Mittens will be playing more than a half since rosencopter is sick
Should be fun to drink to lol
by Biggity B on Aug 22, 2011 8:23 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
carr vs amobi
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions
me too
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
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Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
He looks like a real QB
Even if it is the Bears….
by Biggity B on Aug 22, 2011 9:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Surely he's due for a break-out season in this, his tenth year in the league.
by Nashmeister on Aug 22, 2011 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
jason babin says hi
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
One thing touched upon by LoneSpot
But I think needs mentioning is this is more about how Cody is hurting those around him. I mean, it’s not just Cody that’s getting blown up: he’s taking innocent bystanders with him. You mentioned Sharpton, MDC, but I’ve also noticed he’s washing out guys like Watt in particular. There’s something to be said about a player making his team better. Cody is making his team worse by more than just his play.
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Zactly!
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Truth.
Not being able to, at minimum, hold ground and not get pushed back 5 yards on every play creates all sorts of havoc for the spacing and timing of defenders around you.
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also that hair has to be a huge joke that goes on around the league
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 23, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
We could get a Big NT if we trade Slaton and a 4th/5th
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Besides Reggie Bush.
Seriously… what trade value does Slaton possibly have? Running backs are a dime a dozen in this league.
by WhiskeyR on Aug 22, 2011 9:40 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Redskisn traded a DE and a late roud draft pick for Tim Hightower.
He’s is probably going to be their starter week one. He’s physical and is fast. His biggest knock is that he fumbles a lot.
Yes I see the irony in that.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Well Slaton has had a lot more success so who knows.
Shanahan feels Hightower fits the system he runs and I have to say he has produced so far. He looked nice in the Steelers game and ripped up the Colt defense.Also, the DE they got was Vinnie Holiday so a reserve guy and a late round pick for a potential starter isn’t to bad if it works out and they don’t lose much if it doesn’t.
The problem in trading Slaton is that the market was thin before FA stared and it’s probably dry right now.
The Cardinals lost their rookie RB that was going to replace Hightower and the Lions I think lost a RB so their might be some takers.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Right... so Slaton is mor irrelevant
not directed towards you, but it is funny how everyone was saying Tate would get cut in place of obgyn, yet we’ve seen nothing of Slaton since…. his rookie year
There’s just no way we get any compensation for Slaton. In a league where Tim Hightower can fit someone’s needs, lets just say I hope Slaton invested his bit of money wisely.
You bring up the market and you’re quite right – its dry. Not only is the market thin, but it’s been a long time since Steve Slaton was relevant in this league. Couple that up with how fast star RBs change and their limited shelf life… any RB s a gamble. Slaton is a gamble any team is sure to lose.
Somebdoy might be willing to part with a 6th for him.
Great rookie year. Got hurt his second year then lost his job the 3rd year to a better RB.
In very limited action last season running he managed over 4 yards per so somebody looking for a change of pace RB or maybe just a #2 back he might generate some interest.
We took a similar chance signing Ward after he had a horrible year in Tampa and only one year out of 7 where he really produced. So somebody might hope to get lucky and grab Slaton either via trade or as a FA. Hopefully via trade so we can get something in return.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
if he can stop fumblng, he can prolly be good for another team. he jus dont fit our system. no patience, no vision. thats why hes always running into his blockers. he only wants to use his speed. i dont kno which, but im sure theres a team out there that
runs a system like he needs. i dont think anyone would trade anything for him tho. maybe if he woulda been playin this entire preseason and doing great, sumbody mighta called to inquire. not now tho. i was thinkin maybe he was just acting hurt. thinkin the front office might feel he’s too valuable to just cut.
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Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
channelin my inner rick smith
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, there was alotta talk earlier during FA that the team was going to "showcase" Slaton.
Not sure I remember seeing him on the field hardly at all. They certainly haven’t showcased him to this point. Maybe in the last preseason game ‘cause the ones will get most of the snaps against the 49’ers.
there u go timmy. crisis deverted. can i call u timmy?? - FTJ
shit, maybe he'll get 200 total yards and 3 touchdowns and sumbody gets stupid
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
watchin foster and even to a lesser extent tate. you can really appreciate the beauty of what its suppose to look like. stevie aint got it. arian looks walter payton-ish when he runs. kinda stands up straight, real smooth runner,fluid. like poetry
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I really enjoyed him on talk radio discussing the trial of working his way up as a UDFA.
Great story of perserverance toward a goal. Doesn’t hurt that I grew up 20 west of Knoxville and am a huge Volunteer fan.
there u go timmy. crisis deverted. can i call u timmy?? - FTJ
i didnt ever really watch the dude in college. i read later on tho. ya he's real respectable. i've always hears people talk about a backs vision, and i'm not really sure i knew exactly what they were talkin bout till i started payin attention to how it
looks when its done with a back who actually has good vision. i guess its rare.
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
heard
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Aug 22, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
And he can speak English well
with actual thoughtfulness. And he’s funny. Damnit I think I’m developing a mancrush.
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"Everyday"
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by Austin Bob_Ford on Aug 23, 2011 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
stay off my man....no homo
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Aug 23, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
BFD would be a start... You could pay him in Shiner
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Seriously, Slaton has value he's a former team leader in rushing
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Maybe on th sports radio circuit
But if he doesn’t make this team (meaning if we don’t keep 4 backs) he’ll be cut. David Anderson had more value to this team and he was cut. Dare I say that is almost even true for Amobe Okoye.
These delusions of just being able to trade players are hopeful at best. With so many players getting cut soon, there is just no chance. Not to mention the fact that trades in the NFL are rare to begin with.
No way we get anything out of Slaton.
Lots of backs are out and he could help a few teams... Bush won't make it in Miami the full season,
Then Phoenix’s back got hurt…. He’ll the cow sluts could use him… I know they wished they kept Barber…
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
If you say so.... though what has David Anderson led other than the bench cheers? Slaton has a track record...
Anderson was more like an also ran in horse racing…
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
I can't think of a single example of a guy like Slaton being traded for anything of value
His track record is pre-neck surgery.
Also, football trades, in general, are rare.
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In a what have you done for me lately league
Anderson wins. But the point is that when people think we can trade Slaton, they’re grossly overestimating his value. Injuries, fumbles, getting knocked back on the depth chart by an UDFA, an ancient glacier and a banged up almost-rookie are not going to help him.
The main point is that running backs are a dime a dozen. There’s a million decent ones available. So by basic supply and demand, Slaton has no more worth to another team than he does to us. And his worth to us is maybe the fourth back who is likely to get cut.
Another team obtaining Slaton would remind me of the time we acquired Ahman Green
I hope they don’t get excited.
And Yet We acquired Ahman Green did we not? It happens .... Plax was out two yaers.... he's back...
If TO shows back up… they’ll grab him too… Hell the colts could use him….
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Jesus the Bears are just getting dominated.
Herzlich gets an INT and the Giants the very next play get a 97 yard TD run.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Ya this is ugly. Watching the game while working on some stuffs.....entertaining at least.
Giants games usually so boring.
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by TexansForever on Aug 22, 2011 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Moar Mittens!!
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Da'Rel Scott
is fucking NASTY though. I mean, it was shit defense, but Scott’s balance and vision on that play were insane.
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A moment for Durga, that we manage to get this done for Dre, before this team starts wondering off to play with a "contender."
there u go timmy. crisis deverted. can i call u timmy?? - FTJ
I've got that 1st play from scrimmage up right now
and Cody didn’t get blocked by the LG and C.
It only took the LG to take him out.
The C (Kreutz) was busy blocking Adibi who was shooting the A gap between C and RG.
So Cody deserves even less credit than the zero you gave him.
by vvps on Aug 23, 2011 2:53 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I knew Kreutz got to the ILB
I just thought he hit Cody off the line first. But nope.
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A BIG CAVEAT
Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks are both huge and two fo the best guards in the NFL. Up the middle running is possibly the Saints’ greatest strength. So we don’t need to panic just yet.
Plus, we did not have 59 and 56 in the game together. Plus, 56 is still getting his shit back together. Plus Sean Cody’s suckage cannot be lost on Wade. We will get Earl and we will do well.
But the Saints will still have some real success up our middle. Much like Reggie did with Kim.
by smokehaus on Aug 23, 2011 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
All true.
But runs up the middle, through that exact same A-gap, were also a problem against the Jets. When it’s specifically one kind of run that keeps burning you, there’s probably a reason.
Rec’d for the Reggie joke.
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Weakness, but not awful
Is what I am trying to say. The Jets and Saints are GREAT between the tackles. We will be a little below average there. Hence, in games against teams like that, we’ll suffer some.
But this is not just a re-location of the Battle Red Carpet.
Either way, we’ll know on Sept 25.
Oh, I agree with that.
Like I said, people have to keep this in perspective. If you are forcing turnover and putting up points, and your pass defense is markedly better than last season, having running stats against you that are similar to last year’s is not a deal-breaker.
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I don't think Mitchell gives us that big of an upgrade against the run, if at all
Two key differences between the two. Mitchell is a significant upgrade as a pass rusher, and he should continue to get better. As much as Wade raved about Mitchell when he got here I would think that he hasn’t shown Wade quite what he expected or he would already have been named the starter.
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Re: the run
I would agree, except that it’s almost impossible that he’s as bad as Cody. Mitchell at least gets into his gap and prevents the domino effect that Cody’s moonwalking strategy causes.
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by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
rec'd for moonwalking
I’m scared to watch Cody closely because A. I fear as a 3-4 NT, he’s doing exactly as poorly as you guys are stating, and B. I took up for him a little last year because he was getting a bad rap, and I’ll regret every word I typed.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
I'm just starting to see a pattern (from Texans fans in general)
You know, the knee jerk fan reaction where one guy sucks so anyone other than him must be worlds better. Examples include fans getting way too excited(me included) about any corner not named Petey Faggins. It’s not that I’m down on Mitchell because I’m not. I think he has a pretty high ceiling. At this moment, I’ve seen Mitchell get abused vs. the run too and think we should try to avoid painting things in black and white for now. In other words be careful not to give Mitchell too much credit before he’s earned it simply because he’s not Sean Cody.
I still stand by earlier statement; If Wade still has Cody as the starter after the verbal fellating he gave Mitchell in the off season there’s probably some reason behind it.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
Fair, but
Mitchell also has had some flashes of very good play against the run. Cody has not.
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Worked for Chris Myers.
I’d agree that we need to not paint with such a broad brush here, but I don’t really think either of them are the real answer.
…then again, we also said that about Myers!
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by riversmccown on Aug 24, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions

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