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This guy probably makes the final roster.

Following the win over the Jets, TexansDC took a crack at predicting the final 53-man roster based on what we'd seen to that point, both in camp and in the first preseason game.  As is always the case with the Texans (and, I assume, most other teams), the lead contenders to fill out the back end of the roster can swing pretty wildly week-to-week.  So, with that in mind, I thought I'd offer my own sketch of what the roster will look like on September 11, 2011.

Star-divide

(Players at each position listed roughly in order of where I see them currently on the depth chart.)

QB -- Matt Schaub, Matt Leinart, T.J. Yates.  As a matter of personal philosophy, I am loath to carry a third QB.  Gary Kubiak, however, seems to think that a third QB is as necessary to his roster as a third quark is to a baryon.  All three of these guys are going to be on the roster come Week 1, and we're more or less hosed if anyone other than Schaub sees an appreciable number of snaps in 2011.

RB -- Arian Foster, Ben Tate, Derrick Ward.  You saw three things vis-a-vis running backs on Saturday night.  First, there was visible evidence that Arian Foster continues to have amazing field vision and is primed for another great season.  Second, Ben Tate rushed right past Derrick Ward and established himself as the second-best back on the team.  Third, Chris Ogbonnaya saw his bandwagon driven by Toonces, with predictable results.  I think we carry three RBs, and, if so, I don't see any way Steve Slaton or Ogbonnaya gets on the team.

FB -- James Casey, Lawrence VickersMy love of the James Casey Experience is already documented.  I'm also a huge fan of what I've seen from Vickers.  No way either of these guys gets cut.

WR -- Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, Dorin Dickerson, Jeff Maehl.  I know that Devard Darling looked decent Saturday night but (a) he doesn't have anywhere near the upside that Lestar Jean does and (b) I don't even think Jean will make the team over Jeff Maehl, who I feel is a much better fit (i.e., brings a slightly different skill-set to the WR corps and increases the WRs' grittiness factor by an order of magnitude).  Hopefully, Terrence Toliver and Lestar Jean can sneak through to the practice squad.

TE -- Owen Daniels, Joel Dreessen, Garrett Graham.  I'm not gonna lie: between these three and Casey in the H-back role, I have visions of three-TE sets dancing in my head.  That they are dancing with nude, redheaded chicks is not germane to the conversation.  But they are.

OT -- Duane Brown, Eric Winston, Rashad Butler.  This trio seems like a foregone conclusion, and I'm fine with that.  Also, if you aren't following Butler on Twitter (@RB2Cool), you are missing out.  A few days ago, the man actually asked someone named @Lillybelle561 "do u want to die?" after she called him ignorant.  Whether he was joking or not, I like his hustle there. (Author's note: BRB does not condone violence, unless it is being meted out by Andre Johnson against petulant leprechauns.)

OG --Wade Smith, Mike Brisiel, Shelley Smith, Antoine Caldwell.  With the merciful euthanization injury to Kasey Studdard, Shelley Smith will almost certainly make this team.  At this point, I'm torn between making a tetragrammaton joke or a "four noble truths" joke, so I am just going to move on.

C -- Chris Myers.  As long as he's not facing Casey Hampton or Kris Jenkins, Chris Myers has been very good over the last few seasons.  I suppose that, should he get injured, Caldwell would be the backup here.

NT -- Shaun Cody, Earl Mitchell.  There are a lot of physical constants in our universe: the gravitational constant G, Planck's constant h, the electric constant ε0, and the fact that Shaun Cody is terrible are but a few.  These are immutable; just as no amount of wishing by scientists could change the fact that the attractive force (F) between two bodies is proportional to the product of their masses (m1 and m2), and inversely proportional to the square of the distance (r) between them, no amount of hope from the coaching staff can change the Cody Suck Constant (expressed in symbol form as baby Jesus crying).  Still, Cody makes the team over Scooter Berry.  Sigh.

DE -- J.J. Watt, Antonio Smith, Tim Jamison, Tim Bulman, Damione Lewis.  The first four seem like locks at this point.  As for Lewis, it is my fondest hope that he makes the team as the fifth DE, and then he gets some snaps at NT as well once the coaching staff comes to terms with Cody's non-factor-ness.  I actually think Lewis can play the one-gap NT role, but being able to play that role does not currently seem to be a prerequisite for seeing the field in that capacity.

OLB -- Mario Williams, Connor Barwin, Brooks Reed, Jesse Nading, Bryan Braman.  If the Texans decide to go with an extra WR or S, then Braman would likely be the odd man out here.  There's no way he sneaks through waivers and gets on the practice squad, however, so I'm assuming that they will keep him on the active roster.  I have no problem with that, as Berserker is nothing if not fun to watch and make Clerks jokes about.  I just wish there was some way he could wear #37.

ILB -- DeMeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, Darryl Sharpton, Xavier Adibi, Tim Dobbins.  With question marks hovering about the first two guys on this list, ILB seems like a position where an extra body will make the team just in case.  I went with Dobbins over Standford Keglar simply because Keglar is no great shakes on special teams, Dobbins has played the ILB and OLB roles so far in the preseason (and looks good in run defense), and Wade knows Dobbins from their San Diego days together.

CB -- Johnathan Joseph, Jason Allen, Brandon Harris, Kareem Jackson, Sherrick McManis, Brice McCain.  Six CBs?  Well, sorta.  I think McManis works his way into the safety dance (no word on whether that requires him to be sans chapeau). Roc Carmichael is probably going to be an IR stash.  Antwaun Molden will be set free; if he loves us, he won't return.

S -- Danieal Manning, Glover Quin, Troy NolanShiloh Keo can't tackle, can't return kicks or punts, and can't really cover.  Between his shortcomings, the fact that I think the Texans carry an extra ILB as insurance, and the theory that McManis can possibly play safety, I think Keo is the odd man out.  Being unable to beat out Troy Nolan does not exactly bode well for your NFL future, either.  (All of the above applies to Dominique Barber as well.)

ST -- Neil Rackers, Brett Hartmann, Jon Weeks.  If I am philosophically opposed to carry three QBs, I am outright militant about not wasting a roster space on a long-snapper.  But, then, my vote doesn't matter here, so Weeks makes the team.  I think Hartmann makes team based primarily on his kickoff power, but I hope Kubiak finds a way to use his arm at least once as well.

***

So, there you have it.  In the comments, let's hear your thoughts, observations, complaints, and all requests that I come perform magic tricks at your next birthday party.  (Full disclosure: I don't know any magic tricks, and I am very likely only showing up to drink free beer.)

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by Jon Banks on Aug 23, 2011 10:01 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

I paused reading just to have a LOL

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by texanslady on Aug 23, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

nb4 first

I agree with most. I think Jean makes it over Mahel. Also I’d like Oingo Boingo to make it.

Forgive my ignorance but how does the practice squad additions work? Can we just put people straight on there or what has to happen?

by BricAM on Aug 23, 2011 10:04 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

They have to clear waivers after being released

and then they can be signed to the PS, assuming they meet the other criteria for being on the PS.

As for Maehl/Jean, you could be right. I just see Jean as another WR in the Jacoby/Dickerson mold, while Maehl fits more of the possession receiver role. Just a matter of skillsets, I guess. Not that I would be the least bit saddened if Jean made it over Maehl.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

i like Jean better as a WR for us...but it

will come down to special teams for that spot and word from kubiac is Maehl is doing very well in ST.

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by Andre4000 on Aug 23, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

The thing I really I want to see is the backup WR and OLB spots I think we could have some real talent there.

by Catallac392 on Aug 23, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I have a feeling that we'll carry 4 safeties.

Or an extra ILB on top of what you have listed already.

Yates will clear waivers and will be Kubiak’s project QB in the PS. So that leaves room for one more player.

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by Jordann on Aug 23, 2011 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

hmmm

-Does that Make TJ Yates the down quark?

-#37….brilliant

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 10:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Re: Yates

That works for me, but then I think we’re saying that the QB baryon is a neutron, with two down quarks, because Schaub and Yates are righties and Leinart is not.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

That makes sense

In that case David Carr is an anti down quark

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You make me feel stupid... and now my brain hurts...

/slinks under the bed in search of a nice smelly previously chewed shoe

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by DilloTex on Aug 23, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brett Hartmann is

such a bro.

A punter should have no business bro-flexing.

If he makes a terrific special teams tackle I’ll retract this statement.

by nathan_muses on Aug 23, 2011 10:17 AM CDT reply actions  

almost positive that was Rackers dude.

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by chrisd21 on Aug 23, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Punter

I think they both made a tackle. I think Hartmann got trucked on his while Rackers brought wood

by WreckNTexan on Aug 23, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

No Hartmann took the guy down

He’s 6’4" 227 lbs, he’s no shrimp

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by The Night Owl on Aug 23, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely Hartmann

Very Rackers-esque though. I guess Hartmann figures the way to make the team is to kick off AND be the first guy down the field to make the tackle. Can’t knock him then!

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by Austin Bob_Ford on Aug 23, 2011 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

No need to run

He will just put it in the stands from the kickoff. 90% of the time

by WreckNTexan on Aug 23, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

The reason there was confusion

was that the announcer said rackers made the tackle when it was actually Hartmann. It was solid, and now he have the Kamikaze Kicker, and the Pummeling Punter. I like it!

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by Taco Joe on Aug 23, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, you'd be wrong.

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Aug 23, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

^THIS

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by Taco Joe on Aug 23, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

They both made a tackle that game I believe

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping against hope

that the cap issue is what kept the Texans from making a play at NT. It will be interesting to see if they pick up anyone after other team cuts with respect to DT and ILB.

by ~Buck on Aug 23, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Yup... I'm kinda' anxious about the under-stuffed middle of the line...

Kind of an anti-double-stacked-Panda scenario…

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by DilloTex on Aug 23, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard that if the Cowboys cut Igor Olshansky we might look at him.

He played for Wade in Dallas and SD.

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by Ethan Matz on Aug 23, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd be up for that

but Igor played DE for Wade. Not that he couldn’t play NT instead, but it’s not a direct fit.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Uhh

I live in Dallas and watched the first preseason game where olshansky lost an avg of 6 yards of field position every play, and that was playing the 5 technique, he is absolutely awful and would probably make our front line worse than what we have,

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by Ryan Perrio on Aug 23, 2011 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Maehl makes it to

A perfect slot guy and fourth WR, since I dont hold high hoped for DD as an actual contributor

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by AllenOU on Aug 23, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I Agree

I totally agree, however I am totally biased since I am originally from Maehl’s home town in northern California. One thing for sure, the Texans will gain about 25,000 new fans from Paradise, California if Maehl makes the team.

by rcmarcotte on Aug 25, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Newb rec...

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by DilloTex on Aug 25, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed on most points here MDC

The #5 WR spot is really up in the air and I think it’s going to go down to Maehl or Jean. As for Damione Lewis, I’d swap him and Shiloh Keo.

by Tony Ung on Aug 23, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Really?

Lewis played well last season and provides depth at 3-4 DE and 4-3 DT (if not 3-4 NT). Keo cannot tackle.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Man i was happy when we picked Keo...

but, that dude has looked horrible. He’s been so bad, i just don’t see how he could make the roster even if was a 3rd pick. very disappointed, but I want our best players out there. Reality is that Keo blows summer sausage! I think he gets turf toe and is stashed on the IR.
And if we keep Damione Lewis it better be because Cody gets cut.

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by Andre4000 on Aug 23, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree with you and Andre4000 on this

Keo has shown no reason to keep him. He was given multiple kick return opportunities vs the Saints and did not impress. Last string safeties, WR’s & LB’s need to be able to play special teams, and he hasn’t shown that he can.

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by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 23, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Kubes is back up tp his old tricks.

I know everybody saw the fullback going in motion again.

by southpaw70 on Aug 23, 2011 10:54 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah

But it was effective. Able to isolate Casey against LBs who can’t hang with him.

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 23, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

We may have both an H-Back & a true Fullback

If anything we might drop a TE & carry only 2 TEs since Casey can be the #3 TE anyways

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by The Night Owl on Aug 24, 2011 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would like to keep Jean

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2011 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Whats wrong with Roc?

what is his injury?

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2011 10:57 AM CDT reply actions  

he has the debilitating

“not enough room on the roster” injury.

by Bobbythegreat on Aug 23, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

screw that, cut Brice's ass.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd prefer this.

But, just based on reps, it doesn’t look like the coaching staff shares our view.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brice is the only guy on our secondary I don't like

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

i've watched brice pretty closely without

replaying the dvr. and i’ve seen a big improvement. he might have decent year and continue to progress next year. but, from what i’ve heard and read it sounds like he is going to make the squad. now if we can’t put roc on IR, then we should cut him.

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by Andre4000 on Aug 23, 2011 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you Joseph
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by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice...

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by DilloTex on Aug 23, 2011 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

lulz

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kareem going against teams No.1 WRs

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

VS Brice going aginst No.3s & 4s

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

hes outmatched.

Ive said before i would be ok with jason allen and kjax starting at cb. Since we got jojo, i want jojo and allen with jackson playing nickel, or if bharris is better, make kjax the dime. He is simply not CB2 matieral right now

by Carter Liles on Aug 23, 2011 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh,

and kjax is better than “unique speed” Mccain IMO

by Carter Liles on Aug 23, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm still wondering why Marciano hasn't tried McCain at KR yet

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by The Night Owl on Aug 24, 2011 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Roc seperated his shoulder and hasn't gotten many reps

He’ll be stashed on IR.

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

now I see

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Aug 23, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

"tetragrammaton joke"

I can honestly say that I have never seen the secret name of God used in a football context before.

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by Lawrence Person on Aug 23, 2011 11:12 AM CDT reply actions  

I believe that MDC is in Arkansas, so you might have to get a passport and go there to check it out...

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by DilloTex on Aug 23, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why go there??

There are no trailer parks in Houston??

Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.

by beefy on Aug 23, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oh... okay.

/facepalm

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by DilloTex on Aug 23, 2011 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

you're such a looser for not knowing that

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lulz

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know Gawd

that dumb dog… Don’t be stupid, stupid!

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by Taco Joe on Aug 23, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Clearly

Arkansas, California, and maybe New York are not only separate countries, they are in different worlds.

by BleachBum on Aug 24, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's the clearing waivers part

that makes me think he’ll make the team. Some team out there will snag him based, if nothing else, on his performance v. the Jets.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rex if foaming at the mouth waiting for him to

be put on waivers. Brahman went beast mode on Rex’s 2nd round pick of last year v. ducasse. Just punking him one arm punches to either shoulder. Rexy needs some pass rush.

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by Andre4000 on Aug 23, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

yea, but it seems like their is always a guy we are terrified won't clear waivers, but they always make it through

I think we lost an OT that we wanted on the practice squad once. I’m not saying it’s a sure thing that he gets through waivers, and he might play his way onto the final 53, but there always seem to be less action on the waiver wire than we expect.

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Steve Maneri last year

Who’s doing well for the Pats.

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 23, 2011 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

IR STASH???

Braman has a pulled glute!

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by Taco Joe on Aug 23, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Can" != "Will"

Mario’s career summed up in a single operator. Doesn’t even require an entire script.

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by Lone Spot on Aug 23, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Question

Unless Mario starts destroying some guys, we are wasting his talents at OLB. Taking a pro bowl DE and making him an average OLB does nothing. Why don’t we move Mario back to DE and shift JJ Watt to Nose tackle? Put Brooks Reed at the Vacant OLB. What do you guys think?

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by Lincoln_Hawk on Aug 23, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Mario needs more time.

It’s probably best to leave him at OLB for the first few games of the regular season before we start to consider moving him. Who knows? Maybe the feel of a “real game” will light a firecracker in his arse and he’ll turn on beast mode and break some bones.

by DYN-O-MITE on Aug 23, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

The problem I have with doing that is we still don’t know how Mario will do in that position. Its only been 2 preseason games on a shortened offseason. I think we have to let him get acclimated into the position a little longer until he can get comfortable in the position. IMO Wade Philips will put him in the right position to succeed, so only time will tell if he will make the same impact he did as DE.

by Catallac392 on Aug 23, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

"he was excellent in pass coverage this last game."

Indeed. If an o-lineman doesn’t roll into his legs, he has a pick and takes it to the house. Which would have been super bad ass.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

^this

Mario was back in zone, the O-lineman dove at his legs when Mario was making a move on the ball and should have drawn the flag.

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by Taco Joe on Aug 23, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sort of

But you cannot have pass interference at or behind the line of scrimmage. They may have considered that “at the line of scrimmage.”

There were a few other plays where there was a back on a wheel route that he shut down the option as he blanketed the receiver.

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know the down an dirty on everyone's stats....

but isn’t he bigger than most WR out there? And as far as I know his speed isn’t suspect, that just leaves learning HOW to cover a receiver.

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by txknight on Aug 23, 2011 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like move mario to DE, for it warrants moving

JJ watt the DT and leaving cody somewhere off the field. Noone is going to push JJ back 5 yards.

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by Andre4000 on Aug 23, 2011 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'd be a waste of his ability.

Not many guys in this league have the size and length to handle offensive tackles as well as the quickness to get around the edge. That NT spot would be better-filled by somebody who plays low and doesn’t have the lateral movement that Watt has. That person probably doesn’t exist on our roster right now, but much like last year, it still won’t be our biggest problem on defense (see CB #2).

by Nashmeister on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

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by WreckNTexan on Aug 23, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Too bad you can't do that to Kareem,

since he’s already down to ashes.

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by Jon Banks on Aug 23, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

You cannot burn something already burned – Unless you are talking charcoal.

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll rec anything that recognizes the genius of Tim Curry

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by The Night Owl on Aug 23, 2011 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The only other thing that rises from the ashes is a phoenix (per Professor Dumbledore).

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by texanslady on Aug 23, 2011 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think if Lestar can get healthy and play week 4 he'll make the team over the other guys.

We have plenty of those underneath possession guys with Owen,Joel,Casey,and Walters. I just think as a playmaker he’s got more potential and he did make two big plays in the Jets game.

And at DE I think it comes down to Jamison and Bulman. One of those two makes the final roster along with the other DE’s.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 23, 2011 12:47 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a sense that LeStar might not ever be healthy again - until he's on the practice squad.

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by Xiane on Aug 23, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you implying.

But he probably wouldn’t get much action in the 49ers game, even if he is ready by then, with the starters going 3Q so if he can play and impress in week 4 he’s #5.

Especially if Yates is throwing to him.

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by Ethan Matz on Aug 23, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

"third quark"... I know, I HATE that guy... wait... what?

Can we start to refer to Ben Tate as “Not-Oingo” just so that we don’t lose the name?
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by DilloTex on Aug 23, 2011 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

You sure got a lot of book larnin' in that there football post.

Bravo.

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by Xiane on Aug 23, 2011 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

I dunno.

I like keo but yeah he has not performed well at all.

by Carter Liles on Aug 23, 2011 1:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Why do you like Keo?

Just wondering because I haven’t seen anything to like, yet.

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by Lone Spot on Aug 23, 2011 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not as down on him as most

I thought he looked OK at the one day of practice I went. He put himself in great position vs. the Jets he just didn’t make the tackles. I can give him a little bit of a pass on the idea that he was nervous or a little too amped up for his first game.

I don’t know if he makes the team, but it wouldn’t shock me. The mistakes I’ve seen him make are things that can work themselves out when he settles in and calms down….of course if he doesn’t get it cleaned up he could find himself getting cut.

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the lack of wrapping up

that concerns me. That should be second nature by the time a guy reaches the pros as a SS, and it shouldn’t have to be coached or reminded. Failing to do it on multiple plays is, at best, alarming.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was surprised to see it more than once myself

By anyone in an NFL uniform

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

then you havent watched our D the last few years

Or the league in general. Poor fundamentals when it comes to tackling is a pet peeve of mine. See it way too often. A lot of “good tacklers” are guys who get the big highlight reel shot, but miss tackles occasionally because of poor fundamentals.

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 8:38 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Duh!

I meant by Shiloh

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

this aint a good excuse, but i think that most these players are the best or one of the best on the field from week to week.

being better than everybody, stronger than everybody, faster than everybody, they can get by with just hitting the smaller not as physically giffted players. it just turned into habit over time. hopefully it wont take too amnt whiffed tackles before they learn their lesson.

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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 24, 2011 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

most college players i mean

Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
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by F-BombTheJets on Aug 24, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

no reason other than stuff I've heard

He just seems like a good personality on the team. for special teams

by Carter Liles on Aug 23, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

they have a defensive scheme now too! and it has sprinkles on it

proof. if we were to lose Mario, i don’t think it would hurt our sack ratio. That and we would still get more sacks than last year.
It’s nice having a scheme that makes the sacks happen instead of just depending on Mario or whoever else to beat their man.

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by Andre4000 on Aug 23, 2011 1:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah 8.5 sacks by far lead the team last year.

Which is pathetic. Second closest were Smith and Anderson with 4 sacks each. I expect more players with more sacks and pressures.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 23, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sacks

or GTFO

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by Lincoln_Hawk on Aug 23, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

why thank you.

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by chrisd21 on Aug 23, 2011 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's just because you haven't seen what's in the basement yet

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

the corpses of wayward teens

being molested by colts fans!

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by Taco Joe on Aug 23, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

you don't have to call me darling

darling

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by Taco Joe on Aug 23, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

^5

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by Taco Joe on Aug 23, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

My favorite Karaoke song evar

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

We aim to please.

And welcome!

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 23, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's Bo$$man in a dress!!!! Run!!!!

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by DilloTex on Aug 23, 2011 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

He will live on in infamy

Or something like that.

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm guessing spammer

They signed up for most blogs, and where they could, they basically wrote the same thing. I hope I’m wrong. //shrug//

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 23, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's what I do best!

Go fuck yourself, San Diego!

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by bigfatdrunk on Aug 23, 2011 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quit your dream pooping

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah? Well...

jazz flute is for little fairy boys!

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

That you made this comment

on my post pleases me a great deal.

Welcome and rec’d.

by MDC on Aug 23, 2011 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha

Jo Jo was only suppose to practice outdoors today but tried sneaking into practicing indoors. Kubiak had to pull him out.

by Tony Ung on Aug 23, 2011 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Can't wait to see him Saturday.

Interesting test with the 49ers.

They are a very good running team with Gore and Hunter. I forget the name of the guy Hunter is battling with for the spot behind Gore but they are all talented.

Edwards has been playing hard for them trying to prove his worth as a WR. Had a nice one hand catch last week.

Alex Smith actually had a solid game against the Raiders. Nothing special but it was okay. Of course his up and down nature is always hard to predict. I hope we come out using some basic blitzes and see if he crumbles like he did week 1 against the Saints. Of course the real test is to see how well the front 7 handles the running attack of the 49ers.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 23, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'll definitely be some nice playing time for Jo Jo going up against Braylon. He needs the reps against a good receiver that isn't Dre.

I believe this game will be the first game we’ll see a safety blitz. Wade is going to use it as a warning to other teams and make them account different look blitzes to defend against.

by Tony Ung on Aug 23, 2011 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interested in how well we guard Vernon Davis.

Last time we saw him he dropped 2 or 3 TD’s on us.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 23, 2011 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah but only because we employed the battle red carpet defense...

and BP was the dude at the door who takes your tickets.

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by chrisd21 on Aug 23, 2011 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just read through and you are dead on with your picks, your reasoning and the likely bubbleboys

I can’t add anything to this other than to say that someone could argue that the LB situation is not ideal and they would be right, because Mario is new at that position, and DeMeco and Cushing have questions surrounding their health. But, if you look at the personnel from top to bottom, the LB corps is a strong one.

Safety is a position that I have the highest concerns for, mostly because of depth. I’m not convinced that Keo is a real player, yet.

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by Rip Jersey on Aug 23, 2011 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Me wonders...

Do we look at Lofa Tatupu if DeMeco or Cushing struggle this year and try to rotate?

by Calvin Paquette on Aug 23, 2011 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Casey is also a hell of a long snapper

Wish we could drop Weeks to free up a roster spot, but it seems like the FO is set on him longsnapping.

by splanket on Aug 23, 2011 4:43 PM CDT reply actions  

^^^^this!!!!

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by chuckiepoo on Aug 23, 2011 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

My friend mentioned

that he is pretty sure that carrying a 3rd QB no longer counts against your 53 man roster, so we could keep Yates on the roster as a 54th member. Anyone know if this is true?

by TexasCommodore on Aug 23, 2011 4:49 PM CDT reply actions  

It's true there is an additional game day roster spot available now.

So you can have 3 QB’s dressed and play them all without restriction.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 23, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or, if you have an invincible QB1

You can opt to only have 2 active QB’s and free an extra roster spot.

by splanket on Aug 23, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Game day and 53-man roster are two different things

Oh, see Barry’s comment below….

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by Rip Jersey on Aug 24, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still counts as one of the 53

But game day roster is now 46

Used to be 45, but you could have an “emergency QB” in addition to the 45, now it is just 46, so it can be any position.

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 23, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

what he said

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

They still count against the 53 man roster

They just don’t count against the gameday active roster. Basically they got rid of the “emergency QB” rules and just set aside an extra game day slot.

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by papabear on Aug 23, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look like sumone u kno???

Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang

by F-BombTheJets on Aug 23, 2011 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

BANNED!!!

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 23, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol...the truth sure does hurt sumtimes

Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang

by F-BombTheJets on Aug 23, 2011 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

You and TexansDC are almost on the same page differing only in WR5 and Keo vs Dobbins

I like your Dobbins pick because he has actually made some plays, while Keo has not. Jean looked good against the Jets, but I buy your logic of wanting to have another possession type receiver. Couple that with Jean’s banged up shoulder and you’re probably right if Maehl stays healthy.

I would like to see Casey as the LS to save another roster spot, for OgBo or a DT we may find in a few weeks.

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by oiler-texan diehard on Aug 23, 2011 11:00 PM CDT reply actions  

rec'd

I have no problem with that, as Berserker is nothing if not fun to watch and make Clerks jokes about.

You had me at the Clerks reference…

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