Preseason Flashbacks: Evaluating Texans' Starters in Saints Game
The Houston Texans' victory over the New Orleans Saints Saturday night showcased their potent offensive attack and shiny, new pass rush. With Andre Johnson and Arian Foster back in the lineup, the first team offense was able to rack up 283 yards and 24 points in the first four possessions while Wade Phillips' new defense racked up four sacks, three forced fumbles and one interception. It would be easy for many fans to walk away from that game satisfied with the current state of the Texans. Us Battle Red Blog fans, however, are not so easily sated. Let us see the teeth on that gift horse! That's why I went back and re-watched the game on my NFL Rewind service: to find the flaws and nuances that I missed Saturday night while I was moderating open threads, devising appropriate drinking games and reveling in nostalgic touchdown dances.
Although this was only the second preseason game, most of the first half featured the first teams from the Saints and the Texans (especially the Texans). That usually makes the first half of a preseason game sort of a decent barometer of what we can expect for the beginning of the regular season. However, since the Saints and Texans meet again in Week 3 of the regular season, we have to wonder how much of each teams' playbook was on display. Kubiak and Phillips have reiterated that the defense still has packages to implement, but they are waiting until the defensive personnel masters the ones currently in place. I'm sure the Saints kept some of their cards off the table as well. With that said, there was plenty of first team action to evaluate which is where I'm going to focus my review. Take the jump and I'll share my preseason flashbacks of the first half of the Saints game.
The first possession saw the Saints push the Texans down the field with ease until Drew Brees fumbled the ball in the red-zone and Mario Williams recovered it. In retrospect, I should have included Antonio Smith in the "Star of the Game" post-game poll. He forced the fumble and that seemed to spark a fire in the defense and shifted the momentum of the game. I think putting Earl Mitchell in for Shaun Cody at NT had a lot to do with Smith making the play. The first eight or nine plays saw Cody pushed around by the Saints' center, Olin Kreutz (he even pancaked Cody on the sixth play of the game with ease). This allowed the left guard, Carl Nicks, to help out with Antonio Smith or Connor Barwin or alternately, allowed the C to take on a LB while the LG dealt with Cody.
The Saints dominated the middle until Mitchell came in and kept the center and the LG busy. While he didn't get any tackles or QB pressure himself, he tied up the C and the LG almost every play when he was in the game. I'm not exactly sure when Mitchell entered the game at NT during that first series because my NFL Preseason recording has a glitch after play #8 when Quin was flagged for the hug, I mean, hold. (Maybe Cody's poor play caused a glitch in the NFL matrix and Wade had no choice but to make the switch.) I seem to be missing a play, but Mitchell was in for the next snap I saw, which was second and five I think (around the Texans' 15 yard line at least nine plays into the drive). Mitchell got pushed pretty hard by the C and the LG his first play and the Saints ran up the middle for four yards, but at least he was getting doubled off the line. (Cody was getting pushed around by the C or LG alone usually.)
The next play was third and one and Mitchell attacked the C off the snap, preventing him from taking off upfield to block an ILB like he did on the first play of the game. During that first play, the Saints C fired past Cody and took on ILB Xavier Adibi, who ran up on the line before the snap. That allowed the FB to take Brian Cushing head on and spring RB Pierre Thomas into the secondary for a fourteen yard gain. This time, the center was occupied with Mitchell and the LG tried to help him...but fell down (true story). The FB was forced to deal with Adibi (which he did with aplomb, I should add) and Cushing was able to bring RB Mark Ingram down instead of the secondary. They still gave up another six or so yards and a first down, but it was at least an improvement from Cody's play and a sign of things to come.
Third time's a charm? Mitchell did the same thing on the next play. This allowed Antonio Smith a clear path to Brees after he schooled the LT (Jermon Bushrod) one-on-one. The TE (Jimmy Graham) was busy with Connor Barwin, and the LG was busy helping the C with Mitchell. Smith grabbed Brees and caused the fumble that Mario recovered (after a tip by Barwin sent it his way). Smith made a great play but he needed his teammates to help him get the sack and forced fumble. Mitchell may not have dominated in the middle, but at least he kept the Saints from dominating it. As MDC so astutely pointed out yesterday, Cody's play is hurting his teammates and holding them back. Mitchell may not ever rival Dallas' Jay Ratliff, but at this point he is head and shoulders above Cody.
For the first time this season, the Texans' offense took to the field with Arian Foster and Andre Johnson. The offense looked pretty damn flawless on the first four possessions and Kubiak's use of James Casey was brilliant. I'm not sure if he's now a TE or a FB or a HB. Maybe he's a Full-TE-back. Maybe I need to re-read MDC's awesome game-day post about James Casey and his new role in this offense. Early in the game, Casey lined up as a FB, then moved to TE to slip out for short passes. I'm sure this will help confuse defenders this season. After a few completions to Foster, Casey and Johnson, Foster rushed for a TD on his second carry. Matt Schaub was sharp, completing his first seven pass attempts.
I doubt it was a coincidence that the Texans offense worked much better with Foster and Johnson than it did without them against the Jets. An odd, dropped pass notwithstanding, Andre showed that it will take more than a compound finger dislocation to keep him from his All-Pro form. 100 yards on four receptions in the first half may seem incredible for most WRs in the NFL, but it was just another day at the office for 'Dre. I know he should have been in the post-game "Star of the Game" poll, too (but then no one else would have had a chance). Foster's 47 yards on five carries and two rushing TDs in the first half suggested 2010 was no fluke. He showed that great vision and speed while making great open field moves and breaking arm tackles like a pterodactyl. I thought he was going to win the post-game "Star of the Game" poll for sure, but he only came in third. (Instead of detailing the Texans first team dissection of the Saints defense, I'm going to focus more on the defenses breakdowns and successes.)
To start the Saints' second possession, Cody actually got penetration (he was unblocked at the line) and pursued Brees. However, Brees was just setting up a middle screen and reeled in Cody like a 300 pound bass. Just as Cody was thinking sack, Brees dumped the ball off over his head and Pierre Thomas rumbled for 15 yards. In defense of Cody, he wasn't the only one fooled on that play, and he almost tipped a Brees pass that Mario almost intercepted a few plays later. Then again, what was he doing out there? He was lined up at RDE on that pass play, yet he was pushed out to the far, right edge instead of rushing the QB. If you thought Cody was bad at NT, watch him play DE.
Speaking of being unconventional, Antonio Smith cracked me up on the next play. He tackled RB Darren Sproles and wouldn't let him slip out for a middle screen pass on third down. After throwing the ball away, Brees went apoplectic and lobbied the officials for a defensive holding call to no avail. Not sure why they didn't call it, because it looked pretty obvious when I watched it again. Saints coach Sean Payton even called a timeout to discuss the non-call with the officials. As he did on the play where he forced a fumble, Disrupticon showed he's a crafty veteran and found another way to halt the Saints as they drove down the field.
The next Texans drive showed more reason to believe the offense will be even better in 2011 than 2010. Schaub used his picture-perfect bootleg to open the drive with a 42-yard completion to Johnson. Two plays later, Foster danced 28 yards through the Saints defense into the end zone. Saints safety Paul Oliver was left grasping at thin air when Foster put a move on him in the open field to get into the end zone. Offense working as intended, so let's get back to the less impressive improving defense:
Side note: What NT? I noticed Phillips interchanged the defensive linemen and OLBs more this game than the first one. I pondered the use of OLBs as DEs the other day as I tried to figure out the 53-man roster. Do you carry less defensive linemen when your OLBs also play DE? While I expected to see Mario and Barwin at DE frequently, I did not expect to see Cody out there. The other NTs (Mitchell, Guy Miller and Scooter Berry) were used the same way as well. I just checked the mothership's depth chart and noticed there are no NTs on the team apparently. Cody, Mitchell and Miller are listed as DTs and Scooter Berry as a DE. I'm sure many of you are laughing at me and thinking, "Of course there's no NTs on the Texans' roster! How did you not know that already?" Well, we do have people like Cody and Mitchell lining up at the 1-tech spot on the right side a lot (on the center's left shoulder- this post sums up tech jargon nicely) but they are usually flanked on both sides with at least two other defenders at the line of scrimmage. (That's quite different from most 3-4 defenses in the NFL and why I think it's really a 5-2, but who cares?)
If NTs are really just DTs that are also used as DEs, and the DEs can play DT, why don't we just call them defensive linemen and see where Wade puts them? If that's the case, I don't see any reason for Cody to be on this roster. Why wouldn't Wade simply take the best 6 or 7 linemen he has (which surely cannot include Cody) and slide them around as he sees fit. I think that's what Bum would do. ("What Would Bum Do?" should be the next internet/football meme.)
J.J. Watt was moved around the most in the Saints game, lining up at the 5-tech (OT's outer shoulder) and 3-tech spots (OG's outer shoulder) on the left and right sides during the first half. I don't know if Phillips is trying to test him at each spot or actually plans to move him around that much, but Watt seems up to the task. For example, I really liked the four man front (nickel package) when it consisted of Mario at LDE, Smith at LDT, Watt at RDT and Barwin as RDE. Not just because it was Cody-less, but also because it allowed Watt to shine. The Saints' next drive (the last one for Brees and the Saints' first team offense) started very similar to the first two, with Cody at NT and the Saints gaining big chunks of yards: a 19 yard completion and a 7 yard run up the middle. This brought up second and three. Mitchell came in for Cody at NT. Barwin got after Brees and he threw an incomplete pass. Wade sent in the nickel package, which included the aforementioned four man DL lineup for third down. That four man front got pressure and Watt batted down Brees' pass with authority. Unfortunately, that same nickel package gave up a three yard pass on fourth and three...barely- the Saints got the first down by the nose of the football. After giving up 24 yards on two plays, the defense only gave up three yards total on the three following plays (once Cody was safely on the sidelines).
The next play ended with a short gain by Saints RB Mark Ingram and an Alabama/LSU smack-down. Well, Kareem Jackson's tussle with Saints' WR Devery Henderson was more like posturing but Henderson struck KJax's facemask a couple of times and got a personal foul call. Way to help your starting QB's last chance to score in the game, Devery. Then again, Brees hit a wide-open Robert Meacham (WR) for a 43 yard completion on the next play (guess who was back in at NT.) Luckily for Jason Allen (who pulled a KJax and fell down on the coverage), Meacham stumbled as he made the catch and went out of bounds around the five yard line. That gave Allen a chance for some redemption and he took advantage. He tackled RB Mark Ingram for a short gain on the next play. On second and goal, he defended a pass nicely and Glover Quin stopped RB Darren Sproles just short of the goal line on third down. It could've been a nice goal line stand, but the Saints went for it on fourth down and Ingram got in...or would have, had the Saints not called a timeout first. So, Ingram ran it in again after the timeout. Well, at least it was a nice goal line stand for three downs.
The Texans trotted Schaub and the first team offense (sans Foster) out for another possession, so Ben Tate could take his turn at RB with the first team offense. And he played like he belonged there. As most of you know, he picked up 95 yards on 9 carries and a rushing TD. Even though Tate ran like a pro, the Saints were finally able to keep Schaub and company out of the end zone on their third possession. The first team offense had to settle for a 49 yard, Neil Rackers field goal. (You may have noticed I'm skipping the special teams again. They were bad and the return game was horrible, but I'm focused on the first teamers for this post. I suspect we won't see anything like our "first team" special teams until the last preseason game.)
Enter the Texan-killer, Chase Daniel: Coach Payton decided to bench his first team offense before Kubiak did. If I had Chase Daniel as my backup QB and I was playing the Texans, I would too. Speaking of backups, LB Tim Dobbins was in with mostly first teamers when the Saints second team offense took the field. While Dobbins seemed decent against the run in the Jets game, he was left in the dust by TE Jimmy Graham on Daniel's first play for a nineteen yard completion. I wonder if Dobbins was supposed to get help on that, because it seemed like a huge mismatch. Thankfully, Daniel handed it off to RB Chris Taylor on the next play for a five yard gain. Things didn't go so well on the next snap.
It was second and five at the Saints' 44 yard line and Phillips called a base 5-2 defense formation. The front five (Mario at WOLB, Tim Jamison at LDE, Mitchell at NT, Cody at RDE and Barwin at SOLB) got almost no pressure on Daniel. Mario was the only one who even came close to him before Daniel unloaded a bomb to rookie WR Joseph Morgan for a TD. The rest of them either got rolled by the Saints second team blockers or bit on Daniel's very, un-Oscar-worthy play-action. So much for the pass rush saving the day on this one.
Let's move on to the secondary on the play. Well, we'll do the best that the NFLN camera angles will allow. Yes, Kareem Jackson was back there and it sure looked like Morgan was his man when he left the line of scrimmage. However, as soon Morgan got to KJax, he just let him go. On one hand, it looked like KJax misread and played underneath on the out route while Manning didn't cover Jackson's mistake soon enough. On the other hand, it looked like he was supposed to read the deep route Morgan was taking and let the safety handle it. So, was one of our prized free agent acquisitions and first-ever real safety to blame?
Was Danieal Manning burned? On the replay it looks like it, but I'm not so sure the blame is all on him. I wish I had access to some better angles, but I saw one end zone shot that made me doubt the latter theory. It looks like KJax just turns towards the sideline and doesn't pick anyone else up. I did notice a RB slip into the flat on KJax's side of the field right before Daniel released the pass (on another angle), but he was far from KJax, even by KJax's cushiony standards. I just don't know. Maybe Phillips has designed his secondary with KJax's lack of "deep speed" in mind and has told KJax to let the safeties (or anyone else available) take those "deep routes". I hope that's not the case, because I think a corner with speed would be better than some kind of zone system that facilitates those kinds of completions. If it is as simple as Manning getting burned, I'm confident he is a better player for the experience and will learn from it. If KJax misread the route, I'm not confident of anything. Was anyone else bothered by the fact that our defense still had quite a few "starters" on the field when the Saints' second team rolled them for that TD?
Re-enter the Juggernaut: The Texans' first team offense (or the Juggernaut as one of the Saints' local announcers referred to them) took the field for a fourth time, still with Ben Tate and still moving the ball almost at will through the air and on the ground. This drive featured a rare dropped pass from Andre Johnson that broke Schaub's string of completions at seven. It's ok, because Schaub called his number again and 'Dre made the catch for a big gain and a first down on the next play. Schaub is cool like that. Speaking of cool, Jacoby Jones had a nice run after the catch on a quick, hitch pass on the next play for another first down.
Schaub fell down into a fetal position for his only sack of the game on the next play; Saints DE Turk McBride was credited with the sack. After an eight yard rush by Tate, the Texans faced third and six on the Saints' 12 yard line. Johnson saved the day with his fourth catch of the night inside the Saints five yard line for first and goal, just before the two-minute warning. Ben Tate bounced through a hole right up the middle untouched (like particles!) for a TD on the next play. He then performed either the worst TD dance of all time, a touching tribute to Billy "White Shoes" Johnson or a cultural reference to "The Little Giants" movie, depending on who you ask. One thing for sure, it concluded the first team offense's time in the game with a humorous exclamation point.
Re-enter the Texan-killer: We got to see Saints QB Chase Daniel run the two-minute drill...wheee! It wasn't as fun as it should have been. Mainly because of that BS call on Glover Quin on the first play of the series: "Leading with his helmet against a defenseless player". I've re-watched that play over and over and cannot wrap my head around the call. Quin clearly made an effort to lead with his shoulder and shifted his head away from Sproles as he timed his hit perfectly to break up the pass to the RB. These rules are getting ridiculous. (But Quin did deserve that holding call in the first quarter...actually, he deserved mugging charges for that one.)
Wade chose to mix some starters and backup DBs in a dime package (six defensive backs) with that four man front of Williams, Smith, Watt and Barwin. (Speaking of DB-heavy packages, I was surprised I didn't see Brandon Harris in the nickel or the dime packages. Maybe I'm wrong about Harris getting that starting nickel job. Is he injured?) I assume Wade was predicting a pass-heavy, two-minute drill from Daniel...or maybe he just didn't want to see another bomb to Morgan. Either way, we should thank the Saints for exposing our dime package's vulnerability to the run. Sproles ran for over 15 yards and a first down two plays later. Smith almost had Sproles at the line of scrimmage and Quin and Troy Nolan both missed tackles as he headed into the secondary. The good news? Barwin had enough hustle, conditioning and speed to chase down Darren Sproles from behind.
Wade subbed Jesse Nading for Williams at LDE and Bryan Braman for Barwin at RDE, but maintained a dime package for the next play. The fresh legs didn't get much pressure on Daniel, but I guess it was enough to convince him to throw into double coverage down field. (Nading got closest to Daniel before he released the pass.) Allen and Manning had Saints' WR Montez Billings well covered and Allen got to knock another pass away. That brought up third and ten with a minute and seven seconds left in the half.
Just as I was starting to think this was a second team defense (and I could end this post!), Wade subbed Mario back in for Nading at LDE and Barwin for Braman at RDE. He kept the dime package though. It seems Wade likes a heavy four-man DL rotation with six DBs during two-minute drills. Mario and Smith stunted and got pressure on Daniel and forced him to overthrow Saints' WR Jarred Fayson on the sideline. Good thing he was overthrown, because Fayson was wide open. Guess who was supposed to be covering Fayson, but couldn't keep up with him? I'll give you a hint--think "lacks deep speed". KJax might not have been able to cover Fayson, but he was able to help knock Bum Phillips down on the sidelines at the end of that play. So what if he lacks deep speed? KJax can pick fights with hot-headed WRs and knock down old men (if they trip over bags stashed behind them.) Either way, that forced the Saints to punt.
Kubiak sent in the second team offense led by Leinart after Jakespeare fair caught the punt with only 59 seconds on the clock. (I know I was only going to cover the first teams, but I might as well finish the half.) It looked like Kubiak told Leinart to hand it off to Tate and run out the half. Kubiak must have forgotten to tell the second-year RB, because Tate rumbled for 43 yards and ran out of bounds with 50 seconds still on the clock, "untouched again!" as the Saints' local announcer exclaimed on the NFLN replay. (I think Dr. Tillman said particles don't like being touched.) With 50 seconds on the clock and the ball on the Saints' 43 yard line, the Texans decided to try for another score. Leinart completed two passes to get them to the 20 yard line. He threw an incompletion on the next play, but the Saints were called for defensive holding. Leinart and the second teamers took a couple of shots at the end zone before settling for a 34 yard field goal attempt with 12 seconds on the clock. Although Neil Rackers was perfect on field goals under 40 yards last season, he missed his first kick of the preseason.
The Saints took a knee to end a half dominated by the Texans' first team offense. While far from being the finely tuned machine that is the offense, the Texans' defense continued to get pressure on the QB and got very lucky during this game with turnovers. It's tough to give a final grade to Wade's defense, because they are still installing packages and deciding who is going to do what and when. Instead, I find myself worried about particular players who don't seem to belong with the first team. I've already named names like Jackson and Cody and told you how they failed Saturday night, but I could also include our ILBs on my worry list. Speaking of ILBs, why were they so often showing blitz and playing at the line of scrimmage? It seemed to really make the defense vulnerable to the run. Although, I must admit that Cushing brought pressure on the QB the few times I saw him blitz. What did you see from the first teamers in the first half on Saturday night that made you hopeful and what made you horrified?
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Nice analysis SB
I am convinced Cody has some type of blackmail pics or something.
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
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What if
Wade already knows that Michell is an above average player and would do fine in the season? So maybe he’s giving Cody the chance to improve his skills by playing him so much against the ones, so when Cody has to go in for Michell during the season he’s not so overwhelmed by the competition.
Youre the one that gave everyone trophies in little league even if they lost, arent you lol
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by AllenOU on Aug 24, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
Seems like I should be able to rec this 2x
But I can’t
"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 24, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
that's the only thing that makes sense
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Maybe he stole them from Chris Brown
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by The Night Owl on Aug 25, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
WWBD = "What Would Bum Do?"
I like it.
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by DilloTex on Aug 24, 2011 7:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
speaking of bum...
did you guys see he almost got ran over during the game? i know they didn’t show it during the texans’ local broadcast, but it showed on the saints’ local affiliate. funny stuff.. bum was okay thank god
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there's a link to a Chron story about it in my post
and there’s pictures, lol. I almost used one of those instead of the one of Smith mauling Brees. If you watch the replay, he wasn’t really run over. He was trying to avoid Fayson and Jackson on the sideline and when he backed up, Bum tripped over a bag of footballs. Dan Pastorini tried to grab him before he fell, but Bum went down anyways. He was ok though. It will take more than a pro-ready CB and a bag of balls to take out Bum!
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Jackson's technique or DEF scheme?
Ok I was watching the jets game and during one of the first drives, Jackson was playing 2 yards off the receiver. He backed up straight when the play began but began shifting his hips to the sideline. The receiver ran a slant to the inside and Jackson had to do a 180 to adjust his positioning. By then it was too late and the receiver had him beat for a decent gain.
My question is: Is this zone coverage disguised as man, or just poor technique on the part of Jackson?
by RedRaider99 on Aug 24, 2011 8:29 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I saw that play
I think it was either 2nd or 3rd and 6, Jackson was guarding Santonio Holmes at the bottom of our TV screen, split out to the right of Sanchez. A slant rout was easily completed because Jackson flipped his hips the total wrong way.
I think he is extremely behind, technique wise. Can’t wait to see J. Jo in aciton.
by SpaceCityFan on Aug 24, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
How do you fuck that up?
If anything his hips should have been parallel to the receivers. What… is the receiver gonna run by you!? If he is that far behind on FUNDAMENTALS, there’s no hope for him.
I’m still an ardent supporter of KJax, but he needs his brain to kick wih the quickness.
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by BRBUSAFTexan on Aug 24, 2011 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I went other
Because I couldn’t pick between Cushing and Demeco. Here’s why. We knew NT was going to be an issue(whether it’s Cody or Mitchell). Our “plan” this year did not include upgrading at NT. We were prepared to deal with shortcoming at nose. Another part of the plan for the defense this year included having a healthy Demeco and Cushing making plays.If those guys can’t play at their pre-injury (or rookie year for Cush) level then we are in major trouble. I know some people are excited about Sharpton. Adibi has been possesd by a LB playing demon or something and has actually made me believe that he might deserve a place on the roster again. Still if Ryans and/or Cushing struggle it’s going to be tough.
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I actually think the hair is hillarious
I mean it’s unbelievably stupid looking, and Cody is supposedly a pretty big joker, so I’m assuming it’s all a big joke. Of course if he’s serious with that mess…
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He's apparently a joker on the field too.
I think I’d like to subscribe to Barry’s “Cody has nekkid pictures of Kubiak” theory.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 24, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
"pretty big joker"
So the NT play is just some sort of performance art, like Gallagher?
Well, guess what? Gallagher sucks, too.
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i have rewatched that first drive by the saints..
and cody was getting handle by center, soon as mitchell comes in they double him so whats up with that?
yea I wondered the same exact thing...
it’s almost as if the rest of the league (or at least the team that practiced with the Texasn the last 3 yrs) knows about Cody and his abilities… I mean, disabilities.
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yea it is kinda sad. we really need to get rid of him i think.
i still dont know why as soon as mitchell came in they started double teaming him.
Has to be KJax.
The body language looks so bad on this kid. And in fact he still resembles a kid when he plays and gets beat, his head stoops low and he lowers his shoulders. It almost seems like everytime he gets beat he doesn’t want to make eye contact with anybody because he knows he’s in trouble.
—I honestly Cushing is going to take a step foward this year. He’s just a naturally aggresive/competitive player that will play best when it counts (and he’s healthy).
Is it possible, and I'm just throwing this out there....feel free to trash my opining and stomp it into the ground
Is it possible,…. just grabbing for something, anything….. is it possible that when Frank Bush left, he misplaced his goggles and Wade Phillips found them and wears them while he sets up his preseason game plans? I can’t think of any other valid explanation for why Cody is starting. Be kind, please.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I think he has pics
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 24, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Imagine looking at those pics through Frank-Bush-goggles?
/shivers….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
My theory on why we're not seeing Harris with the first teamers
is that he’s good enough to be a lock to make the team and the starting nickel package already, while the other corners (Mcmanis and Mccain) are being put in the high-pressure situations to reveal who will be cut.
Yup
Based off of what I’ve seen, he’s been solid. When the QB refuses to through to your side, you must be covering well. Like you said, I think they are just trying to put McManis and McCain in to see who plays better and will make the team.
Just Once I would love to see this......
Barwin____Smith_____Watt____Williams_____Reed
Cushing
Ryans
My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!
by The Abrego on Aug 24, 2011 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
Watt at NT would get killed
Dude is too tall to play inside on running downs. He won’t be able to get leverage consistently. Bump him inside when they go to the 4 man nickel front, but c’mon people. Putting him at NT is monumentally dumb.
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 24, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
honey badger don't give a f**k what you say.
honey badger will dominate at NT without even playing there!!!
by Carter Liles on Aug 24, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can't agree with this statement
He moves inside frequently and his hands are so active, he handles it quite well. Also, it’s not like that total package of pass rush is relying totally on what Watt does. Believe me, there’s a few options there. No one of those players gets through every down. But, the object I think is that there’s a good chance one of them does and causes damage to the play. To single out Watt and say he can’t do it, rubbish.
Sorry, just my opinion.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
He moves inside on passing downs
You won’t see him there on 1st or 2nd(except 2nd and real long) down. People can suggest anything they want, there’s a reason you won’t see Wade putting him there…….
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 24, 2011 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Ummm.... there's a reason why you won't see that lineup on every down.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I'm absolutely sure
he would do better at the 1 tech spot than Cody. Just watch Cody on any given play at NT or DE. He’s sluggish off the snap and gets pushed all around. He almost never gets any penetration nor ties up the center. I’m not saying Watt would make a good NT, but I know he would do much, much better than Cody. The problem is Watt’s talents are not used to their fullest extent at NT, so you’re right… it probably wouldn’t be the best place for him.
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That's like saying
Quin would be better at CB2 than Allen and Jackson. In fact he can prob cover a WR better than Allen and Jackson double teaming the same WR. Wade is putting ppl where they best fit though.
i think we're on the same page;)
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But Kareem was the most pro ready corner in the draft :)
by TheDream34 on Aug 24, 2011 9:28 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Re: wishing you had better angles to review this stuff
Am I the only one who would gladly pay a premium to be able to access the high-angle camera that Jaws and coaches and other game-day analysts use when showing what happened? Seriously, I’d pay $150/month for that.
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been saying that for years
I don’t know why they don’t release the “coaches” tape either. Every team gets a copy of game every week so there’s no secrets to be revealed. It would be so easy for them too.
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by Shake on Aug 24, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kinescopes delivered via Pony Express
"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
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by DilloTex on Aug 24, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yea, its very frustrating
I actually caught a replay of the deep bomb from Daniel to Morgan towards the end of the first half (several possessions after the play occurred) that made me pretty sure KJax screwed up. But all the previous replays were mostly worthless for judging that play. I actually went back and rewrote that section after I caught that extra replay angle from the end zone.
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Still Kareem.
The move from #1 to #2 doesn’t comfort me; he’ll still be on the field every down, and the last time we had respectable corner play by Dunta, it was widely agreed that Faggins was the bane of our existence.
Cody and Mitchell are meh, but they’ll only be on the field two out of every three snaps if we’re lucky. I can live with that.
Mitchell is more than meh
How much remains to be seen but he makes plays. Right now I’d say he’s about on par with Okoye’s better days.
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I'd rate Okoye's better days as "meh".
But to each their own, I suppose.
I'd feel much better about NT
if Okoye was still on the squad.
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by Tim on Aug 24, 2011 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Even as anti-Amobi as you are
You can’t deny that Amobi is a better one-gap penetrator than Shaun Cody will ever be. Need I post the clip from the Chiefs game again?
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We could then combine Earl Mitchell's weakness against the run with Cody's lack of penetration.
To create the ultimate shitty nose tackle!
I must say, I enjoyed watching David Carr square off against Okoye in Monday night’s Giants-Bears preseason game. I dubbed it the “no regrets bowl”.
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"The Unrealized Potential Bowl?"
"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
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"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
A very detailed breakdown of the first half.
You get a cookie.
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"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
- tehGrindCrusher
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
nom nom
thanks Jordann:)
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I just wish...
we could cut Jackson. I just think he is incapable of playing at a level better than average. At best. As far as i can tell, Jason Allen got burned ONCE. While KJAX got burned and completed on multiple times. Gimme jojo jallen and nfz harris already!!!
cant give up this soon
at least give him REAL games with REAL coaches. he HAS looked better so far, but there wasnt any room to look worse
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i agree. he's looked better.
But he’s a looooooooooooong way away from looking okay. at very least, bump him to the dime.
by Carter Liles on Aug 24, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
at least Allen makes plays
to make up for his mistakes. I just cannot figure out what’s the deal with Brandon Harris and lack of playing time. There were tons of nickel and dime packages Saturday and I don’t recall seeing him at all.
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Kubes Said on the deep touchdown in question.
That one of the defenders thought they were playing quarters and instead of playing halves which caused the deep ball to be allowed. I would guess Kjax screwed up but who knows.
Even if KJax wasn't on the field i'd still blame him...he's like an unlucky charm in a bowl of sour milk.
by DYN-O-MITE on Aug 24, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for honesty...
Even if KJax wasn’t on the field i’d still blame him…
"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
- tehGrindCrusher
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
I picked Barwin
No preassure on the QB is a good way to make your secondary look bad. I’d hate to say it but i still think CB2 is still K-Jax job to lose.
by The Original H-Town Stomp on Aug 24, 2011 1:05 PM CDT reply actions
Barwin has been impressive
He seems to have taken to the SOLB spot nicely if you ask me and is far from a liability as a starter. He’s definitely playing better than Cody, KJax or any of the ILBs at this point.
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BARWIN IS MASSIVE!!!
That dude must have been lifting every day of his injured reserve stint.
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by BRBUSAFTexan on Aug 24, 2011 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Live and learn
The real upset for me being a Saints fan about that game was why would the Saints on their 1st possession who drove all the way down the field mostly running the ball would decide to pass at the 5yrd line which cause a sack and loss of ball which change the whole flavor of the game after that in my opinion.
because few NFL offenses can get away with only running the ball?
Brees had already thrown four passes during that drive before the sack/fumble. There’s no way the Saints can move the ball strictly by running it.
Don’t sweat the preseason results too much. The Texans ran their first team almost the entire first half.
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we asked the same question last year when
we played the Colts on Monday in their stadium after bye week. Kubes kept calling passing plays and Schaub got killed by their pass rush, meanwhile Foster was averaging a ton of yards per carry but I think only got 15 carries?
But you were catching the Colts by surprise!!!!
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by Hydroshock on Aug 24, 2011 3:14 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It's akin
to putting Baby in a corner. Though with less choreography. And less Swayze. And less…
Aw, who I am I kidding? It’s nothing like that.
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by MDC on Aug 24, 2011 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You get a rec from me for all the Dirty Dancing references.
Dirty Dancing ROCKS!
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Good novel recap SB
It’s good that we’re getting so spun about the little things when the BIG things were a major disappointment last year.
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btw...
the offensive liability in the poll could be the depth at O-line, especially with the injury concerns going on.
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by BRBUSAFTexan on Aug 24, 2011 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
good point
but I was too verbose to add the OL to the post:P
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
On the Manning play.
From Danieal Manning: (on what happened with the touchdown pass in last week’s game) "Bad adjustment on a call that I made. I was thinking one coverage. I put us in one coverage and the rest of the guys were playing another coverage, so it was busted on my part. I was actually trying to run under a route and he ran a double move. We should have been in a different coverage, so I could play over the top instead of underneath."
(on if it was a preseason mistake) "It was a preseason play. It should be the only play now. Now that I’ve got that formation down and communicated all those kinks, thank God that it is preseason, but at the same time, you don’t want that to happen ever."
by StephS on Aug 24, 2011 7:06 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
thanks for that Steph
I would rather hear it was something like that because I trust Manning will get it ironed out. I’m still not too confident in Jackson, but I know the learning curve for the position is high (and all that jazz;)
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
First of all, Coach Kubiak and Wade Philips don’t get your interpretation of the contribution that Cody – the reason is that you are a bunch of idiots. In fact, I’d have to say that most of you probably NEVER put on pads or played a down. Do you think the Texans are going to put EVERYTHING on the field in PRE-frigging SEASON? Get over yourselves, and quit listening to these Cody bashers (or is it USC you don’t like?) and start watching the frigging game. Let’s start having real discussions instead of this MORON stuff.
I'm pretty sure that's where this whole article came from
“watching the frigging game” Well, the first half at least.
Instead of bashing the commenters/writers, please feel free to spotlight situations in which Cody has shined.
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by BRBUSAFTexan on Aug 25, 2011 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes
Please texan, enlighten us with the greatness that is Shaun Cody. We’re waiting with baited breath.
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Good point.
Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 25, 2011 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
OUCH... Pretty sure that goes in the sig file...
…here… have a rec…
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These guys make it too easy.
It’s like a hanging curve in the wheelhouse.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 25, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Which might pose problems for those with "sportsmanlike pride" or a sense of "fair competition"...
…qualities which, I might add, have OBVIOUSLY been absent in every opponent that the Texans have faced over most of the last decade. Payback… she’s a real bitch.
I however, prefer to savor the beauty of a well-hit long-ball…
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Well cant speak for anyone else but i have played football since i was 5.
So i got a little take on what some players do. especially D-line. Cody has had some good plays but seeing him get driven 5 yards down the field on pretty much every play is messed up. Then mitchell come in and get double team and hold his own.
Hmmmm... "texan"... "TexansNutt"...
…similar tone and attitude…
…coincidence?
Nutty? That you?
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 25, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
So you're reply to my 3500+ word analysis of re-watching the film of the game
is ad hominem attacks. Cody sucks. Is that more your speed? Go back and rewatch the film of the Saints game and you will see he plainly SUCKS. If you don’t see that you need to go see an eye doctor. And yes, I have played football before and I was a NT once upon a time also.
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Still Blue
your analysis of the game was great. It clearly pointed out the flaws in Cody’s game and had in depth analysis. I don’t know why this guy is agitated by a post that had relevance. And uh, what does USC have anything to do with what our opinions are about a player are? We have Brian Cushing from USC on our team and most of us loved him in his rookie year because he PRODUCED. It’s a matter of whether the player is good or bad for our team, no other reasoning behind it.
Mario Williams will have 2 sacks and 6 tackles against the 49ers
thanks for the support Tony
I shouldn’t bother replying to them, but I’m bored I guess;)
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No problem
I just don’t like it when people blatantly attack others for analyzing a game. I’m fine with a heated argument that is relevant to the post but to call people “idiots” or “never played a game in their lives” or “you must hate USC” is quite the ignorant rebuttal. It should never become a personal attack on people, PERIOD! That’s why I dislike Josh Innes of sportsradio 610 because he cannot debate other people’s opinions, starts yelling and eventually says something douche.
Mario Williams will have 2 sacks and 6 tackles against the 49ers
I hate Cody for his stupid pink hair thing
/pours gasoline on fire
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by Hydroshock on Aug 25, 2011 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pyro rec
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by BRBUSAFTexan on Aug 25, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
NFLN Replayed Game
I thought my eyes told me something different than what was written here, and without a doubt Cody isn’t the black hole of suck that group think on here demands. Is he good? Of course not, nobody would claim that, but he wasn’t horrendous.
" I think putting Earl Mitchell in for Shaun Cody at NT had a lot to do with Smith making the play. The first eight or nine plays saw Cody pushed around by the Saints’ center, Olin Kreutz (he even pancaked Cody on the sixth play of the game with ease)."
Mitchell comes in on play 9, the first 8 are Cody’s.
1. Cody is pushed aside by LG, good run gain
2. Cody clubs C out of his way with good inside move, LG has to help (funny this play wasn’t mentioned…..)
3. Quick pass, Cody one one one with C, stalemate
4. Same thing
5. Double teamed by C/LG, holds point, cluster f*ck on that side, short gain
6. This is the supposed “pancake with ease”. I’m asking everyone who has this recorded to please go back and watch this play. Cody makes a move to his left and shoots the gap. As Cody is about a yard deep the C recovers and catches his pads, turning him further into the backfield and taking him down. The action was to this side off the snap, Ingram is forced to side step/juke Cody’s pressure but no one is filling the backside lane. In summary, Cody shot his gap, forced the back to make a move in the backfield (usually a loss of yards if the backside is covered) to avoid him, and the author calls this getting “pancaked with ease”. What game was he watching?
7. Double teamed by C/RG, held point, run goes off tackle left for short gain. Watt comes down the line hard to make the play. Had the RG not helped on Cody he would have helped on Watt. Ingram had a HUGE hole on the left side here.
8. quick pass, one on one with C, nothing
9. Mitchell comes in for rest of drive. Double teamed and pushed 4 yards backwards. But to this author that’s better than Cody, who according to him didn’t face double teams. Watch the tape. Cody at least held the point when he was double teamed (plays 5 and 7 as I’ve documented). Good run gain.
10. Double teamed. Holds point ok, although got pushed back a little. Short gain.
11. Double teamed, gets pushed back and turned around, ends up on ground
12. Double teamed, good job pushing it back, leaves Smith one on one with LT. In interview after game Smith said he simply guessed play action on that play to beat LT.
I don’t understand how the author comes to his conclusions after watching the game again other than its simply Texans fan group think.
I think Mitchell is obviously the better option going forward, but the “break down” of this particular drive could not have been more wrong.
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 25, 2011 12:00 PM CDT reply actions 10 recs
Prepare to be flamed.
None shall dare defend Shaun Cody!
by Nashmeister on Aug 25, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
See
If people defend Cody like this then we’re set up for a great discussion about the relative merits of the two players. That’s what we should be having here. You know, using facts and analysis.
It’s the guys that are like LOL OMG WUT UR MORONS FOR THINKING MITCHELL IS SO GUD!!!!!!!@! that contribute nothing to the discussion except for adding quotes to Dillo’s sig line.
Rec’d.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 25, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Mmmmm... not seeing the downside here...
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
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...but agreed... nice fact-based rebuttal.
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I'd rather have that
Than feed you grist for your sigs (as much as I like that).
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 25, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty confident that we can have both...
Such is the beauty of this place…
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Fair enough
Once we educate one set, another set pops up.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 25, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Precisely...
…and if last year is any guide, if the Texans experience any success early on, the influx of band-wagoneers is going to be significant. Last year the collective IQ of the joint dropped about 30 points fairly rapidly through the first two games of the season. Then as that bitch karma reasserted herself, the trolls wandered off to eat their own boogers and peep through the keyhole at their sisters again and the level of discourse here improved accordingly.
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Yeah
Right after I drafted that “Welcome to the Bandwagon” post.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 25, 2011 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't think bandwagon fans get this far.
You’d have to be pretty invested in the bandwagon. Bandwagon fans can’t name the starters. Most everyone here can spout off the entire roster and who they think will be on the practice squad.
scroll down and you'll see how fact-based his observations are
We’re debating specific plays and its obvious he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
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He said Mitchell is clearly better
and he even agreed that Mitchell took on the double team and left Smith 1-on-1 with the LT on the sack/FF play.
So is he just mad because I was too thorough or too emphatic when I dissed Cody? Who do you think should start at NT?
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From today
"Oh, yeah. I feel at home on the football field. I don’t care where they put me. They can put me at outside ‘backer or somewhere, nose tackle. I just like to be on the field. I feel like if I can get on the field, I have a chance to make plays, and that’s when I feel at home."
- SS Glover Quin, on if he feels at home playing safety
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yeaahhhhh
I’m not alone anymore. I like Mitchell better than Cody, but I think people have been getting carried away with the praise. Mitchell got a lot of love at first for not being Okoye(of course I liked Okoye more than most) and now for not being Cody.
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Your powers of observation have failed you in spectacular fashion
I reviewed every play in the first half several times (dozens for the Saints’ first possession). I stand by my posted observation and I trust readers to go back and re-watch them and make up their own minds. Anyone who doesn’t think Cody got owned on play#6 needs glasses or football explained to them.
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?
I don’t know what else to say here. What of my breakdown of the play do you disagree with?
“Anyone who doesn’t think Cody got owned on play#6 needs glasses or football explained to them.”
How about telling me how my breakdown was wrong, what you disagree with?
This sort of comment towards a detailed breakdown of the play is the reply I’ expect from a twelve year old. You basically said “Nuh uh!!!!”
This is the sort of writing and discussion that gets you a spot on BRB? I may need to rethink my bookmarks……
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 25, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
sorry if I don't indulge your whim
I reviewed the play dozens of times and I saw Cody get drove to the ground by the Center. He didn’t affect the play and he was on the ground. I posted over 3500 words in that post and all you want to focus on his my characterization of how badly Cody got owned. If I misused “pancake” then let me know. I didn’t just say Cody SUCKS!!!! I was actually commenting and taking notes as I reviewed each play and explained my opinions of him in context to those plays.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
I guess you read like you watch footall
Is that 12 yr old enough for you? If you can figure out how to use those bookmarks, I suggest you get right on it.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Yes Cody was on the ground
…………. 3 yards in the backfield. He got by the C on the left and CLEARLY effected Ingram in the backfield. Are you denying that Ingram had to avoid him in the backfield? The play started right and Ingram had to redirect left. Regardless of whether he made the tackle, or whether he was taken down, where he got to clearly effected the play.
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 25, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
that's not the way I saw it
The play was clearly designed to go up the middle, right through the 1 gap. Kreutz was supposed to clear the lane and he did by driving Cody to his (Kruetz’s) right and into the ground. Ingram hesitated as the hole cleared and then charged right up the middle for another six yards. Cody was taken to the ground solo by the center. How did he effect the play again? Please don’t try to tell me that Imgram was going to bounce outside and into Barwin’s arms. Watt was over there too.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
crickets...
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Since you say in your supposed rebuttal that Mitchell is clearly better than Cody, which conclusions from my “break down” are you disagreeing with? (Besides my use of the word “pancake”.) I was pretty indifferent about Cody until I watched him in the preseason. Re-watching play after play of his sluggish attack and him getting pushed around in that first half of the Saints game is what fueled my passionate critique. I think you allowed your anger at supposed "fan group think" to color those lenses you re-watched the game through… I’m guessing the color was Cody-Rose.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
Ugh......
I CLEARLY opened my statement claiming that Cody is not good.
“Cody isn’t the black hole of suck that group think on here demands. Is he good? Of course not, nobody would claim that "
Judging by your first reply, debate and following a conversation aren’t your strong points. I said Mitchell is clearly better GOING FORWARD. He’s young, hungry, and has plenty of room to grow. Cody is what he is. Below average, maybe average, but not horrendous.
I stated your break down of this drive was wrong. I broke down play by play why I disagree with it. Cody played 8 plays, lost a few, won a few, drew a few. Mitchell played 4 downs, won 1 and lost the other three.
Its pretty clear what I disagree with, I actually articulated it. Your view that Cody was just beyond horrible that first drive and Mitchell saved the day could not be more wrong.
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 25, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
your breakdown sucks
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
My dad is stronger than your dad
nanny nanny boo boo
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 25, 2011 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'm going to side with TRB on this
I base my opinion not on one preseason game series analysis. I base it on the fact that the coaching staff, with the DC being Wade Phillips, has made Shaun Cody the player to beat for NT in his 3-4. That is no condemnation of Early Mitchell. I think Cody has been given the preseason nod based on experience over Mitchell. That is not to say that Mitchell is not going to get into the game. I trust Phillips to make those decisions and I don’t think he will be making them based on one preseason game series.
So, to conclude, Shaun Cody is not total suck. At the current time he is the starter. I’m sure he will make this team. I’m certain, barring injury, he will get plenty of playing time and we will share that playing time with Early Mitchell. This is making the best of what is not an ideal situation, but this is a team game and there will be 11 players on the field at any given time. The NT is only one of them.
There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
So you think Cody should start over Mitchell?
I just want to understand what your agreeing with him about.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
oh, you think his dad is stronger than mine...
Well I suggest you have your mom call his dad next time she needs her mayonnaise jar opened;)
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
btw... thanks for the new sig Rip
“There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck.” by Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011 12:55 PDT
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
But the wrath of SB is upon you!
Why is SB dominating this conversation, anyway?
Now I get it...
Shaun Cody is your dad! Damn, I’m sorry. No, I’m really, really sorry.
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
yes, I said "Since you say in your supposed rebuttal that Mitchell is clearly better than Cody"
in my reply above. My point is, which conclusion from my 4000 word post do you disagree with then? If it’s that I said Mitchell saved the day, then we’re arguing semantics. Here’s what I said exactly in the post:
“I think putting Earl Mitchell in for Shaun Cody at NT had a lot to do with Smith making the play”
And here’s what you said in your rebuttal:
“12. Double teamed, good job pushing it back, leaves Smith one on one with LT. In interview after game Smith said he simply guessed play action on that play to beat LT.”
See what I’m saying? Is it that I said Cody is waaay worse than Mitchell and you think I put too many aaa’s in there or something like that? I simply said I think swapping Mitchell for Cody at that juncture helped bring about the results that occurred. What was wrong about that?
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
crickets...
chirp chirp
"Ignorance is bliss. Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -Stephen Colbert
So you are 12
Now that explains things.
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 25, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions
You decided to hurl insults with your original post and you're still at it I see
Admit it. Cody is your daddy.
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
I don't know.
codysurdaddy doesn’t really have that zazz to it…
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
...
" I think putting Earl Mitchell in for Shaun Cody at NT had a lot to do with Smith making the play. The first eight or nine plays saw Cody pushed around by the Saints’ center, Olin Kreutz (he even pancaked Cody on the sixth play of the game with ease)."
I clearly stated that I disagree with your premise that Cody was completely useless “Maybe Cody’s poor play caused a glitch in the NFL matrix and Wade had no choice but to make the switch.” and that Mitchell was the difference.
Cody got beat a few times, and won a few times. I simply disagree with your assessment of play 6. As the play is snapped #85 (playing FB) takes a step right just the same as Ingram. As they see Cody/Kruetz 3 yards deep they go left. You could argue that it was a counter of some type, but that’s pretty rare without a backside lineman pulling.
I saw Mitchell lose his first 3 plays before the good job on the fumble play. Yes he was double teamed, but I sincerely doubt the Saints said “Mitchell is in the game, time to double the NT”. They were in the redzone running power plays.
“This time, the center was occupied with Mitchell and the LG tried to help him…but fell down (true story).”
On this play you give Mitchell credit for being pushed back into Cushing by the C (who falls down, not the LG), and then being sealed off by said LG. Mitchell ends up on the ground also BTW. You’re not paying attention, clearly. You don’t know which guy fell down, despite them having these new things called numbers and names on their jerseys, so how can I trust anything else you’re “seeing”?
“Is it that I said Cody is waaay worse than Mitchell and you think I put too many aaa’s in there or something like that?”
Its not supported by the evidence you yourself used. That’s my problem. That’s why I broke down each and every play on that drive.
“I simply said I think swapping Mitchell for Cody at that juncture helped bring about the results that occurred. What was wrong about that?”
Maybe, maybe not. Cody won about the same percentage of his plays. Who is to say he wouldn’t have made that play.
My point is beyond simple. I’m not hyping or supporting Cody as anything great in any way. The hyperbolic comments about how horrendous Cody is, made without evidence supporting them, are absurd.
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 25, 2011 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
if your going to throw walls of text up...
please try to write intelligibly. I’m not trying to be a grammar nazi or anything like that, but your stuff is pretty hard to read. I was impressed that you got hyperbolic right.
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
What is his point then?
That my adjectives and adverbs used to criticize Cody were too harsh and I didn’t provide evidence to support my argument? I hope not, because I think I provided plenty of evidence to suggest Mitchell at NT is better than Cody and that Cody sucked Saturday night. I should say the film presented plenty of evidence.
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
So just delete his comment, SB... That seems to work pretty well for you...
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
This one is well over...
…it has at least closed, scabbed over…let us not pick.Got pretty ugly.
"Then as that bitch karma reasserted herself, the trolls wandered off to eat their own boogers and peep through the keyhole at their sisters again and the level of discourse here improved accordingly." by DilloTex on Aug 25, 2011
Really?
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
Careful... If he doesn't like your comment... you'll disappear...
bush-league move
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
Never thought I'd see the day
Although he does have blue in his name.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
I'm still kinda' amazed...
…and the tone in his “debate” is pretty “he who shall not be mentioned” as well
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Aug 25, 2011 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I deleted an earlier comment I made a few minutes after I made it.
I decided it was too harsh and thought better of it. If you lost a comment that was a reply to that, then too bad.
I like the not-so-subtle ref to politics. If you don’t like my liberal views, I suggest you not click on the “Take the jump” link next time.GTFO
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
nothing to do with politics
just a fellow blogger I’m not allowed to mention
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
sorry I misinterpreted your insult
like it matters… Like I said, I suggest you skip my future posts because I’ll be skipping your comments in the future.
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
This whole arguments reminds me of a scene from a Harry Potter movie.
“Boys!” [- Hermione in “Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire”]
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson
"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock
Never try to baptize a cat.
by texanslady on Aug 25, 2011 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Not sure how much of it you followed but it doesn't get any better down through the next 30 or so posts.
…not much light banter in there either.
"Then as that bitch karma reasserted herself, the trolls wandered off to eat their own boogers and peep through the keyhole at their sisters again and the level of discourse here improved accordingly." by DilloTex on Aug 25, 2011
Did you figure out to which scene I was referring?
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson
"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock
Never try to baptize a cat.
Absolutely.
But when I went to find a link to the scene, I wound up playing a mix cut with the Defranco family singing, “Heartbeat, It’s a lovebeat”. Should take a while to get that one out of your mind. When I first heard it I thought it was a Berber cover.
/shudders
"Then as that bitch karma reasserted herself, the trolls wandered off to eat their own boogers and peep through the keyhole at their sisters again and the level of discourse here improved accordingly." by DilloTex on Aug 25, 2011
You guys are killing me :-)
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Was this where they were arguing in the Hogwarts dormitory?
Mario Williams will have 2 sacks and 6 tackles against the 49ers
Actually Ron was trying to kiss up to Harry after acting like a complete ass.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson
"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock
Never try to baptize a cat.
Its nice to see such "professionalism"
Its bloggers like you that give good bloggers a bad name and keep them from being able to be credentialed.
I tried to civilly disagree with you. I supported my statement with my evidence. You replied by saying “nuh uh”.
next time you're trying to be civil, try avoiding lines like:
“I don’t understand how the author comes to his conclusions after watching the game again other than its simply Texans fan group think.”
and
“I think Mitchell is obviously the better option going forward, but the "break down" of this particular drive could not have been more wrong.”
You fail at film review as well.
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
Was Danieal Manning burned?
Do you know what cover 2 is? Manning bit on the outside move and got burned. You can see Quin chasing also, as in they have the deep 2. Unless Jackson completely missed the defensive call its his job to release the deep route.
gave up on failing at supporting your other argument?
You really should have read the article before commenting.
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
Its supported just fine, you just can't accept it
I’m done going back and forth like were on the schoolyard. I’m on to read blogs from people who take criticism rather than resent it.
by TexanRudeboy on Aug 25, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It works so much better if you actually read all of my post before commenting.
After reading your comments, I can understand why you were not able to read and comprehend all those words I put in that post. I think other sites like B/R are more your speed. But thanks for stopping by and upping my comment count. I get a 10% bonus when they go over 125!
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
by the way
you’re being completely unreasonable. I understand going after the guy who’s whole post was that we’re a bunch of morons, but to go after a guy who gave a detailed account of why he disagreed with you’re view of things is not what I expect from staff at BRB. Nothing wrong to tell him you disagree with him, but no need for the personal vendetta. The fact that you let a disagreement over a set of plays devolve into “your breakdown sucks” and other childish non-sense is ridiculous.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
by papabear on Aug 25, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
well it did
He ridiculed my original post and suggested I had an agenda to make Cody look bad for the “group think”. He suggested I was less than genuine with my observations, so I think he had it coming. If you don’t agree, that’s fine, but I’m not paid to take it. If you think I’m childish, then I think you’re the kind of person who makes assumptions about things they know nothing about.
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
I think that deleting our comments when we were kidding you about the GTFO thing is pretty childish
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
I explained that above and I'm not going to explain it again
scroll up
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
Nah, but thanks anyway...
I really don’t care…
I think that you’ve got the right as a writer to deal with your blog any way you see fit.
There are those that would really get bent out of shape about perceived censorship and that would run around naked with their hair on fire screaming about it. I don’t really think it’s that big of an issue on a football blog.
If you wanted to retract a poor choice of words, I understand and think that you ought to be able to.
There are many times I wish that I had that luxury myself.
Your interactions with folks that dare to express an opinion that differs from yours needs some work tho.
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Aug 25, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
whatever I'm done
I think you’r reaction was way over the top and not the standard we usually see around here. I understand the other guy was out of place. I was hoping to get everyone to take a step back and have a discussion, but I guess I’m stuck with having you not read my comments.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
by papabear on Aug 25, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
From what I read
Defense lined up for cover 2 but Manning thought it was cover 4 and communicated that to Quin which resulted in the busted coverage and big play. That was on Manning and he said that wont happen again.
Mario Williams will have 2 sacks and 6 tackles against the 49ers
yea, Steph S. posted above
that he said after the game that’s exactly what happened. As I said in my post, I’m less worried if that’s the case. I trust he’s got that under control now and I’m glad it happened now rather than later. If it was a Kjax mistake I would have been more inclined to believe it would be one that would happen again.
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
Cody
Here I go with PFF again…
From a purely neutral POV, 2010 was easily the best of Cody’s career. He’s consistently rated poorly at getting to the QB and stopping the run. In fact, he derives most of his value from simply not committing penalties.
But even at his best (last year), he was still…below average. In 2008 and 2009, he grades out at amongst the worst at his position.
Going forward, Shaun Cody is part of the problem, not the solution. I’m not sure if Mitchell is the answer, but Cody very clearly is not.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Don't going saying Cody sucks omg without evidence!!!!!
oh wait…
"There is nothing in that one preseason game that tells me that Shaun Cody is total suck." Rip Jersey Aug 25, 2011
Didn't know that you were getting paid for this....
puts an entire different slant on it. Not everyone agrees with you. What did you think that this blog was all about?
To be fair
Mitchell was worse than Cody in 2010 with PFF’s numbers. Smaller samlpe size (approximately 500 to 300), but Cody graded out as less bad against the run (-0.5 to -2.6). Mitchell was better as a pass rusher (0 to -2.1)
Mitchell was a rookie and should be expected to improve. I think he’s a better option long term as well.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
Can't deny that
Which is why I wish we had made NT a higher priority in the off-season. /broken record
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Just because something gets repeated doesn't make it any less true.
Maybe if the Texans hear it the magical 18 times they’ll actually learn that lesson.
I’ve really developed planetoid NT lust.
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
This place is so intense right now
“It’s like Daddy just hit Mommy at the dinner table and we are all trying to eat still”
-DC
2011 Crystal Ball
Dorin Dickerson coming out party
Damn you, Peyton Manning. You fucked me more times than I can remember, but now you've crossed the line when you fucked me in fantasy. REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM.
LMAO
Damn!! I can’t believe you just made me laugh at a Dane Cook line……I feel so dirty!
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Yeah, I didn't want to take credit
but I also didn’t want to be associated. Thought it would be safe with initials… Guess I was wrong. :-)
2011 Crystal Ball
Dorin Dickerson coming out party
Damn you, Peyton Manning. You fucked me more times than I can remember, but now you've crossed the line when you fucked me in fantasy. REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Aug 25, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Still Blue
Wow…just….wow.
This is a messageboard blog where people come in and share their opinions on material that can considered, at best, rough observations. As fans, we’re limited to what footage is provided by the networks, so the conclusions we draw from this patchwork footage is considererd pedestrian compared to the guys who have the real film.
When we are relegated to inferior material, its not uncommon for people to see something differently than what you see. If someone shares a differing opinion, don’t take it as a personal attack on your hard work. You’ve made it abundantly clear the effort you put in (repeated posts of your word count) for breaking down the Texans-Saints game. I don’t think anyone is questioning your effort and most of your conclusions, but moreso your so-called acute view of Saun Cody’s performance.
Someone obviously touched a nerve and slapped your pee-pee by offering their own opinion on the matter with pretty compelling evidence. You couldn’t stand for this and touted your conclusions as law. As a BRB author, you should respect everyone’s opinion and view them with an open mind, unless of course they are completely stupid (sup BO$$MAN). TRB brought some heat and your response to the criticism was a tremendous failure, my friend.
In short. Nice melt, buddy.
"There's two kinds of coaches, them that's fired and them that's gonna be fired." ~ Bum Phillips
by H-town Fanatic on Aug 25, 2011 11:04 PM CDT reply actions 9 recs
For what it's worth
I enjoy SB articles and really appreciate the depth. You’re not going to find that dedication other than here. Rec’d for open mindedness. It may suck to copy and past a defense over and over again, but it seems to be the nature of the beast. Agree to disagree…. :-)
2011 Crystal Ball
Dorin Dickerson coming out party
Damn you, Peyton Manning. You fucked me more times than I can remember, but now you've crossed the line when you fucked me in fantasy. REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Aug 26, 2011 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I found myself facing a difficult decision tonight
I was pondering if I should type a long comment explaining how this all went horribly wrong, and that as writer on a blog, SB will have to learn how to take a step back in any discussion/argument…and avoid treating it as a personal attack on his work. Otherwise, after some time that path will simply lead to becoming the next “other” SB.
So instead, I thought I should give a photo essay of today’s events:





If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
by Shake on Aug 25, 2011 11:46 PM CDT reply actions 8 recs
I wouldn't worry about it.
SB and Tim had a chat today. You can see how it ended by checking the staff roll at the bottom of the page.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Aug 26, 2011 12:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are screwing up my laziness
by making me scroll further down than normal
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
When in doubt,
always go with pictures.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: School sucks.
Nice... funny stuff... rec'd
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
I like your style.
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Good God...
I’m out of the house for a day and look what happens. I’m not leaving the house for ANY Texan’s game this year :P
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Aug 26, 2011 3:54 AM CDT reply actions
I'm having the weirdest feeling of deja vu right now.
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: School sucks.
I just hope we don't see the hugeass Sigs anymore.....
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
It's good to have your priorities in order ;-)
"I am in favor of censorship ‐ not against what is supposed to be sexy or dirty, but against what is idiotic." -Jean Renoir
Random fact of the week from the empty void that is my mind: School sucks.
What are you babbling on about?
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-Duke Leto Atreides
If you think of yourselves as helpless and ineffectual, it is certain that you will create a despotic government to be your master. The wise despot, therefore, maintains among his subjects a popular sense that they are helpless and ineffectual.
-Frank Herbert, The Dosadi Experiment
Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic.
-from The Sayings of Muad'Dib by the Princess Irulan
Let us not rail about justice as long as we have arms and the freedom to use them.
-Duke Leto
Power bases are very dangerous because they attract people who are truly insane, people who seek power only for the sake of power.
-Leto
I'm too drunk to taste this chicken.
-Ricky Bobby
Ooby dooby, ooby dooby
Ooby dooby dooby dooby
Dooby dooby do wah do wah do wah
-Roy Orbison
I love you
You love me
We're a happy family
With a great big hug
And a kiss from me to you
Won't you say you love me too?
I love you
You love me
We're best friends
Like friends should be
With a great big hug
And a kiss from me to you
Won't you say you love me too?
-Barney
They out ta get me,
They won't catch me,
I'm fucking innocent,
So you can suck me!
Take that one to heart...
-Axl Rose
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well played, PUD
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Wow
“I’m out of it for a little while and everyone has delusions of grandeur…”
Bummer this didn’t work out better, because I really enjoyed SB’s articles. But it’s the one-on-one where his writing needs a little work. Without the readers, you’re just talking to yourself.
Still, I wish him luck in the future, wherever he lands…
yep, hate that it came to that
The more people we have putting out good Texan related stuff…well the less actual work I do.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
I'm just excited to see a different kind of end for a BRB writer
They used to just disappear after the second post.
by ~Buck on Aug 26, 2011 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
This^
Guns a’ blazing! Unlike others where you don’t even notice that they’re gone until you see them on the back of beer cartons.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I'm starting to think he had a better offer somewhere
COSTANZA: You are looking at the next director of Mets scouting. The only thing
is, I have to get fired from the Yankees first.
SEINFELD: You can do that.
COSTANZA: Of course. But I really wanna leave my mark this time, you know, uh. I
wanna walk away from the Yankees with people saying ‘Wow! Now that guy got
canned!’
by ~Buck on Aug 26, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I understand SB is going on tour
He’s calling it:
“My Violent Torpedo of Self-Destruction / That Total Suck Shaun Cody is Not An Option!”
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I was driving to work last week...
… doing about 60 mph down a two lane highway north of Austin at about 6:45am, so it was early dawn with good lighting. I was about 200 yards behind a line of about 5 cars. I see a blur going across the road from left-to-right and then I see a deer (carcass by this point) cart-wheeling about 8 feet in the air right back in the same direction it had come from, landing about 10 feet off the side of the road. The whole line of cars never even slowed down; that was some stout SUV that took that hit.
As a lover of furry critters (some of them grilled with a little garlic) it was a pretty crappy way to start the day.
I’m left kinda’ feeling that way by the whole meltdown and subsequent ramifications.
However, BRB is like that line of cars… Sad to see it happen, but not slowing down. SB has obvious writing talent. That first piece of his was a work of art and his subsequent off-line writing has maintained a consistently high-level of quality. Hopefully he is young and this just represents one of the painful life-lessons that some of us have to learn. I’ve learned my share of them and am constantly amazed at how many of them I still have to learn.
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
Well did you stop and get some meat?
At least the backstrap
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
I was concerned that showing up at work covered in blood...
…might reinforce some of the conclusions that they are drawing about me.
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
Possibly...
I’m starting to take the “Hey Dexter!” comments personally…
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Aug 26, 2011 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Captain Crunch, the Trix rabbit, Frankenberry, Count Chocula, Tony the Tiger...
They’ve all tasted the business end of my blade.
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
...and don't get me started on Frosted Lucky Charms...
Let’s just say “They’re magically delicious…”
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
true story
I know a guy who got fired for being late to work. He saw a deer get hit and decided to stop skin it out and quarter it up.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
sɐxǝʇɯoɹɟʎɹɹɐq sɐ ןooɔ sɐ ʇsoɯןɐ ɯ,ı
That would be my luck...
…after the police showed up responding to the calls about the blood-spattered man entering the building whistling “Hi Ho! Hi Ho! It’s off to work we go!”
At least he had the groceries covered for a couple of weeks.
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
Being a blogger is not easy
Not in the least. It really is hard work. It’s like being married to a thousand horrible wives. You’re never getting any, but they are going to question all of your conclusions and motivations. Constantly. I don’t know a single blogger who hasn’t had to take a step back and collect themselves for a while.
MY problem is that we lost a fantastic contributor and voice. I sincerely hope he returns.
Mis dos centavos.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 26, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I should add
Didn’t mean to imply y’all are like a thousand horrible wives. That’s only Shake.
It’s the questioning, the back and forth, that can be tough. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with it, and it’s the most productive aspect about blogging rather than the traditional media’s one-way soap-box. It’s an altogether different aspect. And, frankly, it’s what makes your average blogger better than your average traditional media member. We have to learn, up our game, and adjust. If we don’t, we rightly get pilloried for it.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 26, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
... and PUD... don't forget PUD
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
Heh
No, PUD’s more like the snotty nosed next door neighbor kid who still thinks it’s funny to prank knock after you caught him the first three times.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Aug 26, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF?
I thought I was the cool drunk uncle who won’t get a job and lays on your couch all the time eating all the Fritos?
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Guess what
That guy’s not cool.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 26, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Still pissed at your uncle, huh?
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
That bastard used to wipe his boogers on the back side of the couch.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 26, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Pity he wasn't a BESF... they might have filled him up and saved some of your Fritos
"Oh Socrates... Where would we be without you serving as midwife to the birth of our reason?"
- tehGrindCrusher
I know I don't write as much as I would like to.
But I absolutely love people questioning the positions I take. It keeps me on my toes and forces me to make sure that everything I write is based on a solid foundation.
It’s a shame this happened. I thought StillBlue was great and I wish him the best.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 26, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
^ This
It was all setup to be one of the most in-depth discussions yet about a single player on our team, with both sides of the argument well-represented.
And then someone threw explosive diarrhea into the fan.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
It’s a shame this happened. I thought StillBlue was great and I wish him the best.
My SB incident ribbing aside, this is my sentiment exactly.
Yup.
I do it 99% for the comments. I still don’t understand blogs that don’t have a comment feature.
(The other 1% is to get appetizers named after me.)
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I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
nice... rec'd
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
"Does this font make my butt look fat?"
“No, but those Krispy Kreme donuts sure do.”
/pause
“I didn’t say that out loud did I?”
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
What's funny is that I wrote a VY piece for B/R
and the comments in there, while negative, are nothing compared to deflecting some of the bullets I’ve endured here. I know I’ve disagreed with people on here quite a bit in the past, but to completely lose your shit like that is just nuts.
In short, BRB made me stronger.
sniffle I love you guys.
by Mike Kerns on Aug 26, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Even me?
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
That depends... are you going to parade around in the Raiders parking lot in your 5Head jersey?
If so… let the love flow… quickly.
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
YES!
Now I get to tell my mom that someone besides her can love me! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! YOU WERE WRONG!!!!!!
No more Saturday night foot massages for you!
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 27, 2011 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
/hugs
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
/assumed
"Oh Socrates... Where would we be without you serving as midwife to the birth of our reason?"
- tehGrindCrusher
and that's why I will never leave you no matter how much you whine....
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Have you seen me?
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 26, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
/SB'd
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
And a new term is added to the glossary...
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Good Durga I hope not.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
The BRB Glossary 198,475th Edition!
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually...
…there’s no need for a new term. The SB phenomenon is just an instance of a previously identified phenomenon we have designated “/Nutt’d”, so no new entry is required.
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
- tehGrindCrusher
His breakdown?
If you want to see sucky, you should see his break dancing.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot

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Never use a long word where a short one will do.
If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Never use the passive where you can use the active.
Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.
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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 26, 2011 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
So fake, yet so awesome...
I must rule with eye and claw — as the hawk among lesser birds.
-Duke Leto Atreides
by peytonsurdaddy on Aug 26, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
beer cartons?
lulz
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
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