Training Camp Report: August 6th
I went to training camp this morning, as I'm sure most of you all did as well. I had a fairly good seat; I was in the middle of the bleachers, and a few rows up, so I had a good angle on most plays.
Here's my "report:"
Guys who stood out...
DE J.J. Watt - Watt got past his man on just about every running play. His pass rushing looks good too, but shedding blocks is definitely his biggest strength.
DT/DE Damione Lewis - Yes, you read this right, Damione Lewis stood out. I didn't have the best angle on him rushing the passer, but boy did he look good on running plays. He didn't shed blocks like Watt did, but he collapsed the middle. First team RG Mike Brisiel got absolutely bull rushed by Lewis on a toss play to Lewis' side of the field. It wasn't just that one time though. Lewis lived in the backfield on running plays.
CB Brandon Harris - Harris looked really good in both zone and man coverage. In zone, he's got good eyes and quick feet. Scouting reports on him said he was a very versatile player, and he is. He looked good in both the slot and on the outside. He also made a terrific diving interception in the slot against one of the QBs (Can't remember which one).
OG Antoine Caldwell - Caldwell looked really good on running plays. He consistently pushed his man back. If he can work on his technique in pass blocking, he could push Brisiel for the starting RG job.
OLB/DE Mario Williams - Mario looked really fluid rushing the passer on the outside, whether it was standing up or having his hand down. I think he's going to have a career season. Note: Mario and Watt were on the same side on Nickel and Dime situations, with Watt as the DT, and they kicked ass. Good 1-2 punch in the making.
RB Ben Tate - Tate stood out the most out of the offensive players. He had great vision, and exploded through holes. He was on the 2nd team though, with Derrick Ward in Foster's place on the first team.
CB Johnathan Joseph - Joseph's technique in man is nearly flawless. Whether he was pressing or giving a little bit of space, he stuck with his man every time. He switched off of Jacoby and Walter throughout the morning. Can't wait to see him guard 'Dre.
OLB/DE Connor Barwin - Barwin didn't necessarily dominate Duane Brown or Eric Winston, but he looked very explosive. He could have a breakout season playing in a very talented front 7.
NT Shaun Cody - Cody held his own on the running plays. He got some penetration on a few plays, but he was never pushed back that much.
CB Jason Allen - Allen was consistent today, for the most part. Whether it was in zone coverage or man coverage, he was in good position to make plays, and he did. He jumped a comeback route, and picked off Matt Leinart. I wouldn't mind this guy as the #2 CB, but it looks like K-Jax will be the starting #2 on the 15th.
Guys who stood out... In a bad way
OLB Brooks Reed - Reed looked lost and uncomfortable. When he was rushing the passer while standing up, he looked incredibly uncomfortable. He was shifting his feet and didn't know how to explode off the edge like he did in college. He may take a bit more time to develop as an OLB.
CB Roc Carmichael - Roc has good technique and good speed, but sometimes he got burned in man coverage. Undrafted WR Jeff Maehl ran a very nice crossing route, and separated himself from Roc by at least 3 or 4 yards. I wouldn't worry about Roc, but he did have some bad moments this morning.
NT/DT Earl Mitchell - Earl had some good moments today, but he is on this list for one reason: Getting absolutely blown up by Kasey Studdard. It was a running play, and Mitchell lined up on the nose, shading to the left, near Studdard. The center blocked someone else, which left Mitchell and Studdard one-on-one. I'm not sure if I've seen a dominant pancake. Mitchell simply got his ass kicked on that play. The fact that it was Studdard is embarrassing. Let's hope this doesn't happen in the regular season.
LB DeMeco Ryans - Ryans moved well today, but wasn't looking good in man coverage. Ben Tate burned him badly on a wheel route and gained around 30 yards before a DB ran him down. Hopefully he's better in zone.
RG Mike Brisiel - Mike was up and down today, which is strange because he's usually a reliable guy. But today, he was inconsistent. He got blown up by Damione Lewis and J.J. Watt a couple of times, but other than that, he was solid. I'd say it's going to be another close battle between him and Caldwell for the starting RG job.
For the most part, everyone looked good. The OL opened up quite a few holes, and the RBs exploded through them.
Standout player of the day: J.J. Watt - Watt lived in the backfield today, whether it was on running plays or passing plays. Can't wait to see him dominate the Colts rookie OLinemen.
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Yeah expect Reed and Car to struggle.
Good to hear JJ impressing. Tate trying to work himself out of the 4th RB spot right now.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
i was out there too...
but i was sitting in the shade drinking beer near the goalpost. lol did manage to snap a few shots, and since i parked in the teal lot i got to see em’ get carted on and off the field which was pretty sweet. i’ll upload the pics and link em’ in a lil’ while.
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Love it.
Can’t get enough of the training camp reports. Keep showin’ up and writin’ up, guys.
Also...
Mario and Watt were on the same side on Nickel and Dime situations, with Watt as the DT, and they kicked ass. Good 1-2 punch in the making.
That’s probably the scariest combo we’ve ever had on defense. And that’s without even mentioning Barwin’s raw speed on the other side.
It was on the right side.
Going against Winston and Brisiel/Caldwell.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 6, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Welp I'm cnvinced.
I think Colts fans will be shaking in there boots, The more I read the more I’m convinced we have a straight up scary defense. we could have Albert Haynesworth at CB2 and I still think we’d obliterate opposing offenses.
We aren't going to have a great defense.
But I think we’ll have a top 12 or 13 defense, at the very least.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 6, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
agreed but when you account for the sure to come exaggerations of mine
are adjusted defensive rank is a top 5. in all serious though with are schedule this year are defense is gonna look pretty snazzy.
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by chrisd21 on Aug 6, 2011 12:30 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
In other news.
Innegan walks out of Titans camp upset about his contract.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Thought you had to be good to hold out.....
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 6, 2011 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Excellent report
Thanks to everyone ho is able to go to camp and write up reports like this. I trust these a whole lot more than anything on the networks.
I’m pleasantly surprised to hear that Lewis is showing something. I suspect Cody and Mitchell will be effective for us, and Mitchell especially could be very good in pass situations, but we’re going to need someone that can push and play the run well in those games where we’re getting muscled around. As long as we can manage to rotate all of them at the right times we should be fine. And in those situations where we force teams to pass, I can’t wait to see what kind of destruction Watt and Mario cause!
I’m concerned about Meco because he could prove to be more of a liability in coverage, but I’ve been hearing that Sharpton is looking good in the middle. Can anyone confirm this? I’ll fell a lot better knowing he can step in Ryans is giving up too much.
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Sharpton has looked really good.
One of the more impressive players in training camp this year.
I didn’t really pay attention to the linebackers today, only the DL and DBs.
Might stress watching the LBs more the next time I go.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 6, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Great to hear about sharpton.
We need a solid back up who can replace Ryans .
I was there this morning also
These observations are not bad at all. I did think Mitchell Did pretty good though – but I was often eyeing the field through the viewfinder of the camera and I don’t thing I saw him get owned by Studdard.
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Funny thing is I was specifically going to watch Mitchell on that play.
Then I see 64 pancake him badly.
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close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
by bone31crusher on Aug 6, 2011 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions
OK got pics up
You can see them here:
http://www.battleredblog.com/2011/8/6/2349209/more-on-tc-day-6
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mario and watt one same side is awesome
p8un should be worried in game one. Rookie OL against a guy who has his number and a rookie who is already blowing up? I know antonio is on the opposite side in nickel but who is with them? Is it cody? Or are they running a barwin,smith,watt,williams dl in the nickel? Because with that front four, and us playing nickel always against the colts. I see clark getting a lot of passes thrown his way.
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Gotta be Antonio inside...
With Barwin/Reed on the outside.
Here's the depth chart on defense right now:
CB #1 – J-Jo
CB #2 – K-Jax
WLB – Mario
SLB – Barwin
MI – Ryans
MO – Cushing
LDE – Watt
NT – Cody/Mitchell
RDE – Antonio
Nickel package on the DLine is the same in Dime:
LE – Mario
DT – Watt
DT Antonio
RE – Barwin
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Something tells me K-Jax is gonna get bumped out of that #2 spot
Whether it’s by Jason Allen or Brandon Harris
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 7, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Brandon Harris please
Having Jason Allen come off the bench is fine with me, although having a rookie start at CB again might not be the best idea…
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Which is why I think Allen will get the #2 job over Harris
But I think Harris would be great at the nickel
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Aug 8, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanx B31C
and Nash, I figured it was gonna be Antonio with Barwin on the outside. I honestly think the Mario,Watt,Smith,Barwin combo is going to scare the crap out of P8un in week one. Can I start Calling our Front 7 the McGangbang? Because it makes me salivate and some QB will have a heart attack this year!
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Excellent, b31c
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Kidding aside, I’m striving to be a scout, whether it’s for the NBA or for the NFL (understand both games very well; know what to look for), so I thought doing these type of posts and seeing what others have to say would improve my skills.
Also, if you ever feel the need in the future to bump these posts to the front page, you could always do that. Just a suggestion :)
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by bone31crusher on Aug 7, 2011 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Duly noted
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Here's what I think the depth chart on defense will be against the Colts:
CB – Johnathan Joseph
CB – Jason Allen
Nickel CB – Kareem Jackson
Dime CB – Brandon Harris
Quarter CB – Roc Carmichael
FS – Danieal Manning, Sherrick McManis
SS – Glover Quin
SLB – Connor Barwin, Brooks Reed
MI – DeMeco Ryans, Darryl Sharpton
MO – Brian Cushing, Xavier Adibi
WLB – Mario Williams, Jesse Nading
LDE – J.J. Watt, Damione Lewis
NT – Shaun Cody/Earl Mitchell *
RDE – Antonio Smith, Tim Jamison, Damione Lewis
Note: * – Either could start
I expect to see Brice McCain and possibly Sherrick McManis cut.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
My only concern with your line up
Is that Cushing did NOT look like someone who could play in a week to me – but I am just a regular old guy
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 7, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
You people are getting me too hyped up on Watt
I was already high on the kid, comparing him to Pro Bowler Justin Smith, but man….I’m almost ready to get my 99 jersey
"Lord, beer me strength."
It's hard not to when he's owning our OL.
Our OL is pretty good, too.
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by bone31crusher on Aug 7, 2011 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Everything I'm hearing and reading sounds spot on....
I can’t believe people were criticizing the pick for being a “safe” pick.
"Lord, beer me strength."
It was lunacy from the start.
The Fairley-brigade completely overlooked Watt’s athleticism and college production. I’ve always been a linebacker guy when it comes to defense, but I think Watt is going to turn me into a D-line enthusiast.
Do it. He's going to be here for a very long time to come, I think.
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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I have one on Order
can’t wait to add the Battle Red Watt to my Blue Andre, Blue Mario, White Foster, and Red Cushing!
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Does it?
It looked pretty self explanatory to me.
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 7, 2011 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a giant push-off.
You can see Walter extending his arms.
Besides, a long route like that in the redzone never pans out due to the lack of time the QB usually has.
That was good coverage by Kareem, and he slipped because Walter pushed him.
Reports say Kareem has been burned a few times in camp, but has stayed with his man for the most part. The real concern for me is learning how to play the ball.
On fade routes and deep routes, Kareem usually stayed with his man, but did not know how to play the ball.
I have faith in Vance Joseph to fix his issues.
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by bone31crusher on Aug 7, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
If so, a very little one handed one as his right hand never touches him.
And this isn’t a long time – about 3.5 seconds according to the video. He stayed close at first – but his poor footwork still shows.
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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 7, 2011 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
His footwork was actually pretty poor.
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by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions
it doesn't look like much of a push off...
I mean at least K-jax didn’t fall over when K-dub moved back out into space. I for one have thought Kevin Walter is a better WR than he is given credit for. He is an awesome route runner, yeah he doesn’t have lightning speed but the man can move his feet. He also has good hands. I think Kareem just got beat by a veteran WR who knows how to lose a young CB… now let Jo Jo run that with K-dub I bet we see a completely different play. Though I still think Kevin gets enough room to make the catch.
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Exactly.
K-Dub is one of the better route runners in the NFL. That drill they did in the redzone played to his strength. He’s got the footwork, size, and technique all down. Why is route running is flawless.
Wouldn’t put this on K-Jax being bad, but K-Dub being good.
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by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
A legitimate CB
wouldn’t be struggling with falling down on K-dubs first cut (Before he breaks open for space). I know Walter is a really good route runner but he did not have to work very hard to make Jackson look foolish.
I mean Walter was wide wide wide open on a really short route that didn’t take very long to develop.
If he hadn’t been so bad last year I don’t think people would be jumping on him AS much, but he was Real Bad™ last year and this TC he’s currently having isn’t giving many hope that he can bounce back from last year.
I still think you aren't giving Walter enough credit.
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by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm a big Walter fan...
But nearly every team in the league has a couple of receivers capable of either making a cut like that or winning out in a jump-ball situation. It’s not going to get any easier once Kareem gets to the regular season.
I've always thought Walter was a solid #2 guy
But I’m pretty sure Seyi Ajirotutu has pulled off a similar move in game against this guy.
Those types of "push offs" are standard operating procedure in the NFL
That’s not gonna draw a flag so Kareem better get used to it.
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This wouldn't have happened
If we have a legit WR2
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
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