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Notes on Sunday's Training Camp, Now With 100% More Andre Johnson!

Football is king in Texas.  I've known this axiom of life in Texas since I was a little boy.  But sometimes, it still floors me when I see just how popular the sport is here.  For instance, this morning, at an hour that I would NEVER be awake at under normal circumstances, more than 4,000 people showed up for today's open training camp.  To watch practice.  At the risk of sounding like Allen Iverson here, we are talking about practice. When we're not watching training camp, we're arguing about how our college football teams will fare this season; if not college ball, then we watch high school football.  Football is a three-day weekend in Houston, an excellent obsession of the highest order.

People packed into the bleachers like sardines...sardines that would be subjected to yet another scorching August morning.  But it's football.  Never mind the heat, never mind the awful music (more on that in a minute) playing on the loudspeaker, never mind two 300-pound guys in tank tops sitting next to you pretending to know what they're talking about; our collective obsession must be fed.

With that out of the way, allow me to contribute to your football fix, after the jump.

What?  You didn't think I would do ALL the work here, did you?

Star-divide

1.  Having Kareem Jackson cover Andre Johnson (who, in case you didn't read the title, was back in camp today after a dislocated finger) in 11-on-11 drills is almost unfair to Kareem Jackson.  Schaub launched a pretty, though a bit underthrown, pass to Johnson, who leaped up over Jackson to make the grab.  Jackson flailed his arms in a desperate attempt to break up the pass. 

2.  Invest in a J.J. Watt jersey.  He's going to be starting for the Texans for a very long time.  During defensive line drills, he was moving like his feet were on fire and the only way to put out the fire was more cowbell to race around an imaginary offensive line (in the form of a large hoop on the ground) and hit the arm of an imaginary quarterback (the coach's arm).  He also knocked down a pass at the line of scrimmage.  As I mentioned in a previous post by some unknown, yet devastatingly handsome, writer, Watt bats down a lot of passes like that, and I, for one, really look forward to seeing the incredulous look on Peyton Manning's face when Watt slaps down pass after pass...that is when he's not putting said quarterback three feet into the ground.

3.  I'm warning the Texans organization right now, if they ever, and I mean ever, play "Friday" by Rebecca Black on the loudspeaker again, I will start a riot in the bleachers, and there isn't a jury in the world that would convict me for it, either.

4.  Ben Tate did not participate in today's practice, due to tightness in his hamstring.  Thankfully, Anna Megan Raley was nowhere nearby to tweet about it, and all carts in the area were burned to prevent a second panic by Mike Kerns a concerned Texans fanbase.

5.  Jacoby Jones had as good a catching percentage as Andre Johnson, today.  No, I can't believe I wrote that either.  But it's true.  Jones caught everything thrown his way, including a couple of deep bombs in heavy coverage.  I know it's only practice, but could it be that, with how he finished last season and these last couple of days in camp, Jones may have finally put it together?  I think I need to lie down.

6.  Danieal Manning picked off a desperate throw by Matt Leinart in the end zone today.  I got a warm, fuzzy feeling when I saw that we had a safety that could make plays on the ball, let alone interceptions.  Then Troy Nolan picked off a pass by Matt Schaub; and I started wondering if I had wandered into the Twilight Zone.

7.  Of the college free agent WRs brought in, I think Jeff Maehl and Derrick Townsel have been the most impressive.  But the best catch of the day has to go to Lester Jean who made an awesome catch while spinning 180 degrees in the end zone for the touchdown.  T.J. Yates was the passer, it was his best pass of the day.

8.  Judging by today's camp, James Casey will not be the starting fullback for this team.  He's getting pushed around by the likes of Xavier Adibi and Vickers is just imposing his will on whatever defender he's matched up against.

Since there is no training camp tomorrow, and I know the nose tackle battle is foremost in your minds, I will have a special post on it tomorrow.

In the meantime, what players/position battles are you interested in reading more about?  I'm kind of freestyling here and I want to know what matters to y'all.  So...have at it!

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Wish I could have made it.

Alarm did not go off.

Definitely be there Tuesday and Wednesday.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 7, 2011 9:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for posting these. The insight is appreciated by those of us who can’t make it out there.

by Stupendous Man on Aug 7, 2011 9:41 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Is water wet?

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 7, 2011 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Harris does.

As for Allen…jury’s still out for me.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly what I'm thinking.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

<blockquote Jacoby Jones had as good a catching percentage as Andre Johnson, today. No, I can’t believe I wrote that either. But it’s true. Jones caught everything thrown his way, including a couple of deep bombs in heavy coverage. I know it’s only practice, but could it be that, with how he finished last season and these last couple of days in camp, Jones may have finally put it together? I think I need to lie down.>

Nice to hear since I’ve been putting my neck on the line for Jacoby. I think his catches may increase to 60 this year.

What I’m interested in though is:

How do Reed/Barwin look like at OLB? Both rushing and in coverage.

Does Demeco look healthy? I know he said a few days ago he’ at 90% and improving.

Quin seems to be really taking his bigger role in the defense seriously how does he look in coverage/run defense?

Which corner stood out if any? I’ve heard McManis was covering well. How was Brandon Harris looking?

Finally how did the young WR’s look like? Dorin separating himself from the guys behind him? How do Toliver, Maehl, and Jean look like?

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 7, 2011 9:52 PM CDT reply actions  

wtf?

Block quote fail.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 7, 2011 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Barwin's has been getting some good pressure, not as good as Watt or Williams, though.

DeMeco’s still a half step slow but he’s getting there.

I haven’t noticed him thus far, not that that’s necessarily a bad thing.

Harris has done pretty well the last couple of days. McManis had a couple of nice moments today, but really, Joseph is the man as far as CBs go (obviously).

Dorin made a good catch today. Maehl and Townsel have really impressed me with some of their skills. I’ve yet to see Tolliver make a catch. Don’t know if that’s because I missed it or they simply haven’t passed to him, but I’ve not seen much of him to give a good answer. Jean, like I said, had the best catch of the day with that spinning reception.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love reading everything so far about Watt....

If I ever can scrape together the time, I may even write about Watt….cause the guy’s got what it takes to be a stud 3-4 DE.

As for Jacoby….his catch percentage was the highest of all Texans WRs last year. His drop rate was also the highest, but the guy can catch.

Good stuff. Love reading the reports from a first hand source who also makes Mike Kerns-Tate jokes

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by TexansDC on Aug 7, 2011 9:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Thx for the report, UT!

Good stuff

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by Rip Jersey on Aug 7, 2011 10:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Still uncovered.

The thoughtless bastard.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame

Kareem Jackson.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Aug 8, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does jello tan?

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by TexansForever on Aug 7, 2011 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

That make me chuckle

and I can’t stop

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 7, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

he gets us to the playoffs

and he can walk the field nude for all I care.

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 8, 2011 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

not even if we win the superbowl is that an option!

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Aug 8, 2011 6:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Liar

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by UofTOrange on Aug 8, 2011 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bullshit

If we win the Super Bowl, I’ll apply the sunscreen to his nether-regions.

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by MDC on Aug 8, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Horrifying image to be sure.

But a SB win…I’d risk the image.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 8, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

2 Questions

How did Glover Quin look, and is T.J. Yates worth keeping around?

I’ll be heading to the next 3 practices with a couple friends. Should be fun.

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by .Bonzo on Aug 7, 2011 10:11 PM CDT reply actions  

T.J. is pretty much locked in as the #3 QB

He could develop into a nice QB down the line

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 7, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's the next Alex Brink

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

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by Jordann on Aug 8, 2011 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

or B.J. Symons....

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by buckaroo_banzai on Aug 8, 2011 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quin hasn't really stood out to me thus far.

Yates we’re pretty much committed to, I think. Despite that, he’s making the typical rookie mistakes but, like I said, he did make that pretty pass to Lester Jean today.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

GQ hasn't really stood out at all.

Doesn’t mean he’s playing badly though. He’s in the middle right now.

As for Yates, I really like him. He should develop into a solid backup QB.

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close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Love it.

Keep up the good work, folks.

by Nashmeister on Aug 7, 2011 10:15 PM CDT reply actions  

CCBach

How’s Kevin Walter looking?
What about the Oline and TEs?

Who’s stepping up and being the vocal leader on defense?

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by CCBach on Aug 7, 2011 10:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

No idea why I put my name as the subject line.

And THANK YOU!!

You give me a football, and you give me a dream. You give me the game of football and you give me a life long job.

by CCBach on Aug 7, 2011 10:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Not a problem.

Walter’s been steady, making good catches, he’s in pretty good form. OL is pretty much set, even though Watt and Mario are pretty consistently making their lives miserable. Other than that they’re playing well.

Ironically, I haven’t seen a whole lot of tight end play. Daniels is Daniels. I hope he plays better than he did last season, frankly. He wasn’t exactly Mr. Reliability last year as I recall. But Dreessen is making nice catches and getting yards after contact as well.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome that Watt and Mario are making hell for the OL

Just hearing about Mario, I’m excited for the first game. Again, I feel bad for the opposing player that has to block a rushing bull….

by Tony Ung on Aug 7, 2011 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't

But I am not very sympathetic :P

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 7, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

They start with rookies on the OL for the Colts.

Mario and JJ gotta be licking their chops at the thought.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't wait for that first regular season game.

Nonetheless, we have one more week till the first preseason game. I know we probably won’t see much and the game means nothing but still, I’m just ready for some football.

by Tony Ung on Aug 7, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

The rookies may not start

But the Colts don’t have any linemen that scare me per se.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 8, 2011 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, let's see:

Kevin Walter’s routes are still very good, as are his hands.

The OLine has been somewhat inconsistent, especially on running plays. I see too much penetration, particularly from Damione Lewis and J.J. Watt. Eric Winston and Duane Brown have been consistently good, though Mario got past both of them a few times. Mike Brisiel has actually looked pretty poor. His footwork is solid, but his hand placement is poor. When you don’t get the hand placement right, you get bull rushed easily, and he has been. Hopefully he’ll turn it around.

As far as TEs, Joel Dreesen and OD look good. Haven’t seen much of Casey, but I’m sure he’s playing well. Garrett Graham has been running some nice routes, but there’s no room for him on this team, with a very good #2 TE in Dreesen and an All-Pro caliber TE in OD.

I think the guy whose being a leader on defense and has stepped up is Darryl Sharpton. He moves well, and is a great tackler. He’s been taking reps on the 1st team defense as the MO, and he’s been playing very well.

Hope this helped.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
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by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it too early to consider this idea

Trading Garrett Graham for some DL or LB depth?

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by The Night Owl on Aug 8, 2011 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has no value.

Not because he sucks or anything, but because he never plays.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least he remains vaguely healthy.

You look at Anthony Hill the wrong way he breaks his spleen.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 8, 2011 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I find it very odd that Brisiel is getting bull rushed

He’s been the mauler of the OL group the past couple of years, so hopefully he can get back to that.

There’s room for Graham. They’ll either cut Hill (they should) or IR stash him. They’re not gonna let the OD Clone go.

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by TexansDC on Aug 8, 2011 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

The real "mauler" has been Antoine Caldwell.

Have yet to see him get beat on running plays.

He’s been punishing the 2nd team so far. His footwork has significantly improved, and that’s very good because he already had the strength and technique to be a good run blocker.

Hopefully those improvements can translate into his pass blocking.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great to hear about Sharpton

I’m officially claiming the driver’s seat on his bandwagon. I think he has the potential to be a very good player for us, although I’m not sure why he’s backing up Cush and not Meco. Ryans said that Adibi is his back up, so my best guess is because Sharpton has better size and power. Any thoughts on that?

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by Hydroshock on Aug 8, 2011 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've been driving this bandwagon since last year at least a little nit

I like to think of myself as being like Andre.. only lighter.. and minus alot of the athleticism.

by ZipCode4 on Aug 8, 2011 5:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not sure you were EVER a "little boy"

I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter

by AllenOU on Aug 7, 2011 10:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

You make a very accurate point there.

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I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Does DeMeco look as if the ankle is still an issue?

Or should we all stop stressing about training camp week 1? I’m guessing the latter.

by TexanJim on Aug 7, 2011 10:32 PM CDT reply actions  

He's still about a half step slower than he should be, but he's improving.

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I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey UprootedTexan

this is WAY off topic, but you upkeep the BRB Glossary yes? i suggest adding /NUTT’d. i.e. To have an irrational spurt of anger including personal attacks, typically caused by not having blind faith in your team to be great in every conceivable way. also denotes the judgement of articles without reading them.

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 7, 2011 10:33 PM CDT reply actions  

My rule is it has to commonly used among bloggers for it to go into the glossary.

So if it becomes a “household” phrase, I’ll put it in. But I am considering it.

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Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

it was an isolated incident, but i have seen it in a few of the new threads!

perhaps a sacrifice to the “Keeper of the Glossary” is in order?

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 7, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cash is a preferred sacrifice.

Just so you know.

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Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about the hearts of Saints fans?

If so, this should suffice
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDOBejlx7Us

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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 7, 2011 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

But I could use some cash.

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Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't we all?

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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 7, 2011 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Forget whut?

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 7, 2011 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

regardless, It got in.

you know how many of those things I have NEVER seen in my life on these boards? Winstonsaurus? while humorous, i’ve never seen it used. there are more, but my brain is quickly going to sleep on me.

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 8, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

too.lazy.to.click.link

I am

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 8, 2011 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, agreed

Also, I think the Z should make it there somehow.

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by RocketsAstros on Aug 8, 2011 3:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Winstonsaurus is a holdover from DGDB&D

Like Barbaro. When I first wrote the glossary, the terms were still relatively fresh.

Never use a metaphor, simile, or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
Never use a long word where a short one will do.
If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Never use the passive where you can use the active.
Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 8, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some quick questions

How’d Johnathan Joseph and Brandon Harris look today?
And what about Terrence Toliver, did he do anything to impress you?
And how’s Earl Mitchell look at NT?

by Tony Ung on Aug 7, 2011 10:40 PM CDT reply actions  

Joseph actually broke up a pass to Jakespeare today.

It brought a tear to my eye to see a Texans CB do that. Harris had some good coverage today, I thought and he looked great yesterday.

I haven’t seen Toliver do much of anything so far. I’m really underwhelmed by him at the moment.

As for Mitchell, you’ll read about that in tomorrow’s post.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Great to hear that Joseph is doing well and glad that Harris has been doing well also. Something tells me the guy will seriously push for CB2 towards the end of this season, though he’ll start at nickel. And that sucks for Toliver, been hearing the guy has been impressive in TC and to hear him not standing out is kind of a disappointment. Look forward to your Earl Mitchell post.

by Tony Ung on Aug 7, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also good to read about Lawrence Vickers

I don’t think Casey will be our starting FB also. Vickers loves hitting people and like he said in an interview, he’s there to prove that he should get on-field time.

by Tony Ung on Aug 7, 2011 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty much

You don’t sign someone for 3 Mil to just backup an unproven converted FB. That’s just insanity…

by Tony Ung on Aug 8, 2011 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could be wrong

but I have a feeling Vickers will make us forget about Vonta by the end of the season.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 8, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

And I think he’s going to have several plays where he’s going to pop a LB and make the crowd go “ooooooooo”

by Tony Ung on Aug 8, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

fixed

but I have a feeling Vickers will make us forget about Vonta by the end of the season first game.

by MeMongo on Aug 9, 2011 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tolliver didn't practice yesterday

Not sure what the problem was, but he was on the bike and didn’t have pads when I saw him.

by AgTexan on Aug 8, 2011 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Johnathan Joseph looks very good.

He’s very physical with his hands, but he’s not physical enough to get flagged for it. CBs who can do that are the elite ones. It’s what makes Revis such a fantastic CB to along with all of his other attributes. Joseph’s also got good closing speed. He should be a good #1 corner for us.

Brandon Harris has impressed me a lot. His footwork his solid, his eyes are good, and he stays with his man. He’s been beaten a couple of times, but he’s a rookie. The thing that I like his that he’s always puts himself in a position to make a play. He does gamble quite a bit, and that concerns me, especially if he does that in man coverage. I like that he’s aggressive, but at times he’s reckless in his decision making. But, overall, he’s impressed me the most out of the CBs outside of JJo.

Toliver has looked good, for the most part. His routes are solid, and his size is impressive. He’s gotta work on a few areas, but he looks good for an UDFA.

Mitchell has gotten some good penetration throughout camp, but the one play I may not forget is when I was specifically watching Mitchell on the play, and Kasey Studdard absolutely kicked his ass. That can’t happen to NTs on running plays. It was just one play though. The fact that it was Studdard is embarrassing.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like that Harris is aggressive

That’s usually something that’s instinctual as opposed to something taught. A lot of corners can cover well but never really know when to go for the ball. He may be somewhat reckless early in his career but I bet he learns to tone that down quickly.

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by Hydroshock on Aug 8, 2011 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed with hydro on this post

I believe that every team should have at least 1 aggressive corner. I also think that with good safety play, a CB who gambles can turn out to be a stud and create a lot of turnovers.

by Tony Ung on Aug 8, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's embarassing that Studdard is in camp.....

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Aug 8, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks B31C

Agreed that elite CB’s are those that are physical but not too physical at the same time. So far, I’m really happy with that signing. As for Brandon, I remember in his games at the U, what you described about him is on par with what I saw in those games. Yes, he is a bit undersized but because he puts himself in a position to make plays, it makes up for that lack of size. He’s very instinctual and he’s definitely got swagger. I can only hope for the best with Mitchell. It’s a huge gamble but it may turn out well. We’ll have to see.

by Tony Ung on Aug 8, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully a lot of them against our AFC North opponents this season

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by The Night Owl on Aug 8, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn, reply fail

How the hell I do this?

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by The Night Owl on Aug 8, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great job and descriptions

I do think it is typically Texans Fandom that so many folks are excited and asking so many Q’s

I didn’t get out there today. The A/c clutch went out on my Taurus. Anyone who has done that job knows it can be a biatch. So I had fun outdoors another way.

Maybe I can get out there Friday.

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 7, 2011 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Look forward to seeing you there.

I ran into LedTexan out there today.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 7, 2011 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's on HoustonTexans.com now dude!

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by Schlauton on Aug 8, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

For some reason it only counted part of the link

It gets you to the right page though – so it is all good

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 8, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It uses the link of the video you first clicked on.

You first clicked on that video so only that link will show.

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by Schlauton on Aug 8, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the coverage UpTex

I wish that the mothership/chron had actual analysis/reporting on training camp as opposed to just reporting quotes and having 2-3 minute videos that don’t say anything. They have such amazing access and their content is drivel.

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by Riott on Aug 8, 2011 3:46 AM CDT reply actions  

On a side note

Barwin looks like hes put on some muscle

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by Riott on Aug 8, 2011 3:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, not really

He’s probably planning on screwing a few QBs this season

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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 8, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Addressed, how exactly?

Do you think we should give him a medal?

by Nashmeister on Aug 8, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who are you?

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Aug 8, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

For somebody who can’t make it to these practices, due to living around the world, I really appreciate getting my addiction fed by any means possible. Keep the updates coming.

by emsman on Aug 8, 2011 5:23 AM CDT reply actions  

Saturday I saw Kareem Jackson at T-Mobile by Reliant across the street from Taget...

The teller told him not to get burnt this year! LMAO I turned around so i wouldnt laugh in his face! LOLOL

by Bee Deezy on Aug 8, 2011 7:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for all the updates

Wish I lived closer :(

Spurs/Texans/Horns...everyone else to the back of the bus.

by benefactor on Aug 8, 2011 7:56 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

a couple of thousands miles away. sigh

by BrotherSalsa on Aug 8, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

two questions for anybody that was out there

1. is brooks reed getting any looks with the the first team d, and where ever his reps may be coming how has he looked thus far… im expecting big things
2. where do you expect maehl at come week 1, is schaub throwing to him at all or is he just getting the usual we have 10 wr’s at camp reps?

if only there were 22 sage rosenfels out there

by gm.in.waiting on Aug 8, 2011 9:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Re: Reed

in one of the previous camp posts someone said Reed was struggling with his footwork because he’s not used to the technique yet. I’m sure that’ll improve with time and coaching but I wouldn’t expect to see him with the first team any time soon. Barwin has that locked up assuming he stays healthy.

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by Hydroshock on Aug 8, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reed has only been getting time with the 2nd team, and for good reason.

His footwork and technique have to be worked out before he plays consistently.

As for Maehl, it’s hard to say. Toliver and Jean have impressed with their size and athleticism, but Maehl is the best route runner of the 3. I’m not quite sure where he fits in.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 8, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think one of them will get placed on the practice squad & the other two will make the team.

If those two & Dickerson can make Jacoby expendable, look for Jacoby to get traded then the third WR to get called up from the PS

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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 8, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

They're not trading Jacoby

They wanted him back for a reason

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 8, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

since ive waited so patiently for dickerson to show out

or even get the chance to, im gonna continue to hope that this is the year… but i watched maehl pretty closely at oregon and the guy looks like brandon stokley 2.0 (2004 stokley). unless its his speed that left him undrafted and fighting for a roster spot i have a hard time believing that he cant be a major piece in our o

if only there were 22 sage rosenfels out there

by gm.in.waiting on Aug 8, 2011 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter

by AllenOU on Aug 8, 2011 11:23 AM CDT reply actions  

how did you manage a blank post?

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by Taco Joe on Aug 8, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm on two hours sleep

It was a pic that failed because I’m an idiot

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by AllenOU on Aug 8, 2011 12:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You are amazing.

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Never use a long word where a short one will do.
If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
Never use the passive where you can use the active.
Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word, or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Aug 8, 2011 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are you doing this Friday, UT?

Wanna get down?

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Aug 8, 2011 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I should ban you for that.

I really should. But as things are, I don’t have anything going on on Friday.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 8, 2011 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

rebecca black is free on friday

I heard her say it on the radio

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by AllenOU on Aug 8, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Took this screenshot -- background from Kubiak's interview at the mothership

Brian Cushing in the background, and I’ll post without further comment:
Photobucket

by JBal on Aug 8, 2011 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I saw that interview.

Cushing looked extremely skinny…..

by Tony Ung on Aug 8, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats not cushing

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by AllenOU on Aug 8, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's someone else being interviewed byu someone with a mic, wearing #56?

I actually thought myself it may not be Cushing though. He looks tiny, especially in the face. Fit, but skinny

by JBal on Aug 8, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

better pictures of cushing

can be found here near the bottom

http://www.battleredblog.com/2011/8/2/2339775/training-camp-day-2

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by nolander on Aug 8, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 8, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

part of it might just the hair

never seen him clean cut

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 8, 2011 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he looks like he's in good shape, no doubt

Just saw that first picture and said “gah!”

Nothing to do with anything, but Mario’s a freakin’ beast

by JBal on Aug 8, 2011 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

He actually used to outweigh most other linebackers by about 10-15 pounds.

So this might not be too bad, especially since we need the ILBs to move well in coverage.

by Olive_Oyl on Aug 8, 2011 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm

Based on those pictures, I guess most of the Texans players looked skinnier. I guess it’s because they weren’t in full pads.

by Tony Ung on Aug 8, 2011 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bad at math

FYI – 1 is infinitely larger than 0. Since there was no Andre, and now there is full Andre, practice now has infinitely more Andre than before.

by Franchise19 on Aug 11, 2011 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

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