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Houston Texans Depth Chart: Observations On The Initial Chart

The first depth chart of your 2011 Houston Texans sits on the Mothership. Granted, the depth chart doesn't hold a lot of weight before the first preseason game, but it provides a starting point nonetheless. Let's leap and take an absurdly early look at some curious listings of note.

 

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- Wide receiver will be a big battle all August long for spots four, five, and the practice squad. Dorin Dickerson sits fourth while Terrance Toliver and Derrick Townsel jockey for position five. Lestar Jean sits seventh but he is in better position than Paul Williams, Jeff Maehl, and Trindon Holliday who find themselves on a logjam on the other side. Given the number of receivers, I do expect to see a release or two soon (before Monday's game? After Monday's game?) to free up more snaps for the legitimate contenders in the weeks to come.

- Garrett Graham is ahead of Anthony "Lives on Injured Reserve" Hill. I said the other day that I believed Graham stuck on the 53-man roster, and this falls in line with that.

- In what has to be a mistake, undrafted rookie Darius Morris is starting at right guard ahead of Mike Brisiel and Antoine Caldwell. If it's not a mistake, then maybe it is a motivational tool for the two veterans who split time at RG last season.

- Ben Kerns Tate? He's fourth on the running back list behind Steve Slaton. Can you tell they want to pump up Slaton's value? I'd be stunned if Speedy Stevie were on the roster come Week One. Of course, we all said the same thing about Rashad Butler, so who really knows?

- Newly signed fullback Lawrence Vickers sits behind everyone's favorite Owl, James Casey.

- Your defensive line starters? J.J. Watt, Shaun Cody, and Antonio Smith while Damione Lewis, Earl Mitchell, and Tim Bulman are your second-team line. Despite this, I expect Mitchell to run with the ones on Monday.

- Connor Barwin is starting ahead of Brooks Reed while Jesse Nading is the back-up to Mario Williams.

- Glover Quin is so good that he is starting at left cornerback and strong safety. Kareem Jackson is unlisted. Jason Allen is your nickel, Brice McCain is in the dime, Sherrick McManis is in the quarter, Brandon Harris is sixth, and Antwaun Molden is counting his remaining days as a Texan. Based on camp reports, I think we will see Harris rocket up the depth chart. New York's not known for its gunslinger attitude, so this may not be a good game for any of these guys to separate themselves from the pack (aside from special team contributions).

- Quintin Demps is ahead of Dominique Barber as back-up SS. Shiloh Keo is your fourth-team free safety, which seems like he's a bit out of position there.

- Brett Hartman is winning the must-see battle at punter over Brad Maynard.

- The number one returner? Trindon Holliday. If he doesn't set the return world on fire, he is gone.

There is a lot to sort out, and that is what makes Monday's game against the New York Jets so intriguing. Your starters will likely see two or three drives of work, but with so much quality depth vying for back-up roles and roster spots, especially among the receivers and defensive backs, it should keep you glued to the TV.

What say you, faithful reader? Anything seem odd about the tentative depth chart so far?

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Townsel above Maehl & Jean?

Casey above Vickers? Morris about Caldwell AND Brisiel?

Either this list has some big time errors or it reeks of Kubespeak.

by Mike Kerns on Aug 9, 2011 8:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Morris

must be a mistake, like the 2xQuin..

Die hard Texan fan from the heart of Denmark!

by zala on Aug 9, 2011 8:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

It HAS to be.

They better not fuck with our OL. Our OL was awesome last year.

by WhiskeyR on Aug 9, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed for the Kubespeak

i remember coaches always doing this..lites a fire under the player that knows they should be the starter and boasts the confidence of the guy thats is penciled in so now both guys are putting that much more effort into practices..

by Mike Ram on Aug 9, 2011 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

You shouldn't HAVE to motivate a guy making millions like that.

Just saying. I don’t understand why these guys aren’t playing their asses off without this type of mind fucking. I guess they are too comfortable? Too full of themselves? I dunno, but in training camp at least, there shouldn’t be motivation issues. Fear has always been MY motivator. Fear of coming out in the middle or back of the pack. Perhaps some of these guys just don’t have enough fear? They are complacent? I don’t know, I guess what I’m not considering is the fact that these are normal every day guys with huge giant muscles and bodies…but they’re still just as brain fucked as the rest of us.

Ok, my rambling rant of the day has concluded. Have a good day everyone!

by Peckerwood on Aug 9, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

And yes, I know...

Not all of them are making millions…but Jeebus, short of the lawyers and others that are making money hand over fist (and on a side note, wtf…how much longer are those dollars going to have any REAL value?) even the low guys on the totem pole are making more than all of us.

by Peckerwood on Aug 9, 2011 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

not everyone is motivated by fear

motivation is slippery. Some people are motivated by rewards or praise, some by status or recognition, others, yes, by fear. The money’s a big one too, and the potential for a big payday on the next contract, but it depends on where a player is in their career. A good coach will likely understand what individual players respond to and use that to motivate them. Getting dropped down the depth chart may very well light a fire under certain people’s ass, but it depends on the individual.

by JBal on Aug 9, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately its just human nature

I see it happen at my job and I’ve even seen it happen to me you do your work you get praised for it you start realizing you are pretty damn good and then you take it a little easy and you are so good at your job that you are still getting it done so you slack off a little more and you are still satisfying your boss next thing you know you have spent three of the six says you work readingand waiting for replies on every single comment on BRB so you realize you have to get back on track or you can’t get it done…. I’ll be waiting for replies haha

by jags52982 on Aug 9, 2011 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Still dont know why GQ is listed as the SS and not the FS

I know Wade uses a “twin safety system” but still. Manning has never played FS so why switch him when we can just keep him at his natural position? I dont understand Morris at RG either.

by Zukywich08 on Aug 9, 2011 8:16 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't think

Townsel is ahead of Jean.. I just think he fits the WR1 position with all the other tall recievers and Townsel fits at WR2, but if they had to choose one of those to cut, I think it would be Townsel…

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by zala on Aug 9, 2011 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

Fun fact

Aside from Townsel and Holliday, every receiver is taller than 6’1’’. It’s going to be a tall receiving corps.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Except for Maehl.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ain't Maehl 6'1"?

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but factor in Holliday and the average drops to 5'2"...

I’m just sayin’…

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by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Has anyone even seen this Morris kid practice yet?

I wouldnt have thought he would even make the roster

by Zukywich08 on Aug 9, 2011 8:19 AM CDT reply actions  

They slip through the cracks every year...

Guys that are NFL starter quality, or even STAR quality…..I don’t know anything about this guy…perhaps he was injury prone his last year in college? No telling.

by Peckerwood on Aug 9, 2011 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Glenn Martinez?

NFL.com lists him as a free agent who wasn’t with a team in 2010.

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by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Perhaps

Some guys showed up to training camp in a state that was not quite what Kubes expected. And this is Kubes way of saying “So help me Durga, if you don’t get your fat ass back in shape, this is what will happen!”

by SubCrim on Aug 9, 2011 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Could be.

It could also be a way to troll anyone outside of the team. The opposition, the media, regular football fans…

Look at us. We’re up in arms, over a meaningless TC depth chart! LOL

by Cut Block on Aug 9, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd

for the non need of scrabble for this years texans

by Mike Ram on Aug 9, 2011 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It is a carryover

from our “it looks like we are a man short” defense from last year….

by BleachBum on Aug 9, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

So Damion Lewis is a DE now?

Wonder why they switched him from DT.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 9:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Depth.

But, remember, we’ll also be playing four linemen in Nickel and Dime packages. They’re apparently attempting to convert him into a “swingman” role.

by Cut Block on Aug 9, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

MANDATORY CREDIT

Bwahhaaahahh!

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Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Aug 9, 2011 9:38 AM CDT reply actions  

The Maehl Man

Here’s hoping Jeff Maehl shows something and at least stays for a couple preseason games!

by jeremytraver1 on Aug 9, 2011 9:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Let's just hope that "Certified Maehl" can deliver...

…and that this isn’t another case of a wasted “check is in the Maehl” or that he turns out to be abysMaehl and suffers a Maehltdown.

"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
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by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just hope that Maehl can deliver on Sundays

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I WAS THERE ON SUNDAY

Townsel and Jean looked impressive with catches. Jean caught one between Jackson and McMannis in the endzone.. Kubiak who was standing 10 feet from me smiled and chuckled. Schaub looked pretty sharp ( so did Lienart)…Dre found gaps in the redzone and so did Daniels. KW and JJ made a couple but either ran out of bounds or was converged on quickly. Slaton and Shorty Holiday each broke a couple and looked solid. Slaton had about the only carry from scrimmage that looked impressive… he still has his quickness. I think the reason the rookie is getting the first team nod on the OL is because Schaub was rushed on a couple of quick passes and both pushes cam from that guard spot.

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by TEXSON on Aug 9, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

^This photo just flopped.

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by Lone Spot on Aug 9, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I like your analysis. While you may think it's useless at this juncture, it does reflect your expectations

Some quick shots of my own.

On Holliday. I am not a fan. He has shown in the past that he doesn’t have hands. You kind of need this skill to be an effective WR and Returner. From what I am hearing, the Texans have a plethora of guys on the roster with this skill. The other thing I have observed is while Holliday has the speed, he does not have the shiftiness that helps a Returner make tacklers miss. Put that all together, and I can’t see any way that the Texans keep him. The best I expect is the Practice Squad and between you and me, I don’t see it.

On the Jets and what to expect from their offense. I suspect they may be looking at things that may not fit their normal strategy. Like all teams, this is a time to find out what you have. They may try to air it out a little bit and this could be a good test for the Texans D-backfield. Let’s see.

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by Rip Jersey on Aug 9, 2011 9:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Holliday

IMO, if Holliday hadn’t of been injured last year and had been able to play the entire camp/preseason, they would have sent him packing, and we wouldn’t be wasting time on him now.

by jeremytraver1 on Aug 9, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Holliday returned a kick for a touchdown on Sunday

I don’t know why, but I’m kind of rooting for the tiny bastard.

by Karsh on Aug 9, 2011 12:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Mighty Mouse approves of this comment...

…and rec’d for “tiny bastard”…

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by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Given that Manning returned a kick for a TD in practice today, I think Holliday’s clock is ticking.

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by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

"He has shown in the past that he doesn’t have hands."

When was this? He didn’t drop a kick-off in week 1 of the 2010 preseason (4 returns, 21 ypr), nor did he drop a punt. He had a good return on the first kickoff of week 2 (28 yds), and he tore ligaments in his thumb on that return. Then he muffed a punt and a kick. If anything, he’s shown that he doesn’t catch the ball well when he has a thumb injury. You have zero evidence that he can’t catch the ball when he’s healthy. Given that and the fact that he’s been clocked at 4.18 in the 40, I think I’d hold off on saying that he shouldn’t be returning kickoffs. (Full disclosure: I don’t like him as a punt returner.)

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by MDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I always thought

his skillset would be better for PR than KR?

But what do I know, I never would have thought Steve Slaton would have worked out at KR. I guess that’s why they don’t pay me to make those decisions.

my Z key can't take another free agent flurry

by texanphil on Aug 9, 2011 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I like him as a KR

because he gets more of a running start. At 5-5, I just don’t think he’s a great option to try to catch punts with bodies around him. Now, on long punts, where there’s a risk that the other team might outkick their coverage? Sure.

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by MDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they are moving the kickoff spot to the 35 yard line

He might be even more dispensable especially since he hasn’t really impressed at WR.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's a very fair point.

If suddenly 85% (or more) of kickoffs are touchbacks, there ain’t a lot of use for a 5-5 WR. (Though LSU did some awesomely creative things with him, my favorite of which was having the offensive line in upright stances, with Holliday right beside the QB. The defense had to hesitate because they couldn’t tell if it was a direct snap, an inside hand-off, or a pass play.)

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by MDC on Aug 9, 2011 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Les Miles was/is just a crazy guy.

He loves to do creative things, they don’t call him the magician for no reason. It was nice to see in college but I wouldn’t want the Texans doing that. We could very well have a dead 5-5 guy

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I NUTT'D your comment

and now that I read it, it makes some sense and is not pure crap.

by WhiskeyR on Aug 9, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad

it’s not the worst comment you’ve ever read on here, nor did it cause you to leave the blog forever.

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by MDC on Aug 9, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kubes criticized his skill as a receiver last year in a manner unusually harsh for him

This was in one of the TC pressers. I think it was mainly his route-running and knowledge of the playbook that was suspect though, more than his hands, though I don’t recall him getting praise for anything really.

by JBal on Aug 9, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Unusually harsh for him

“in public”

From what I hear he makes players cringe when going over “film”

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably true

People act as though Kubiak is a total “aw shucks” guy, but their perception is usually based on his pressers. You can see him on the sideline getting pissed off all the time. He also holds players accountable for their actions (see Arian Foster, Jacoby Jones).

by WhiskeyR on Aug 9, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

In case anybody cares.

Schaub will be on ESPN first take soon.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Skip Bayless

Will probably interrupt with, “Hey Matt I know your offense is good but I just want to say the Philadelphia Eagles are the greatest team in 2011.”

by Biggity B on Aug 9, 2011 10:36 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Bayless hates on the Eagles.He's a Cowturds fan.

He also rides the Patriots nuts for now. He says they won the offseason.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't get it

How can he possibly think adding Haynesworth and Ochocinco are the greatest offseason moves of all time….i hope the pats implode because of these moves

by Biggity B on Aug 9, 2011 10:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Did you here what he said about VY?

When the Titans cut him Skip said VY was the best FA available. He’s been on the VY bandwagon since he came out.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I heard it but

I thought to myself there’s no way he said that, I must have been mistaken. No one is still THAT delusional…..are they?

by Biggity B on Aug 9, 2011 12:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

Its difficult to understand egotistical idiots with no common sense.

by WhiskeyR on Aug 9, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a Cokeboys fan?

Here I thought I could never find another reason to hate Bayless any more than I already did.

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by MDC on Aug 9, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oddly

It does.

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by MDC on Aug 9, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

He covered them during the 90's.

Seriously he’s one of the biggest Cowturds fans I’ve ever seen.

Ask him who he would take in an imaginary draft at WR and he’ll say “Jerry Rice and Randy Moss are good but I’d take Micheal Irvin”. Yes he did say that.

Also he’s a huge OU fan even though he graduated from Vanderbilt.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone who would take Irvin over Rice

should be banned from commenting on sports ever again. I’m not even being hyperbolic; if you are that goddamned retarded, you should forfeit your right to have an opinion on that matter.

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by MDC on Aug 9, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I firmly believe ESPN pays him to troll.

He does nothing but inflame people with his opinions.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

The guy is so full of himself and he’s a terrible commentator. He’s a complete tool.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's why he stuck on a throw away morning show

I only watch First Take when there’s nothing else on

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 9, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude is a jackass

he’s probably only high on VY so people will get off his ass as an OU homer.

old joke : do you know why Tx doesn’t float into the gulf? Because Oklahoma sucks so hard.

by chaserjames on Aug 9, 2011 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

espn pays all their guys to troll

one day people will realize the things they are saying they are saying to get more people to watch. Good journalism is boring to most people.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 9, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is ALWAYS an additional reason to hate him.

Anybody under the age of 60 named Skip should be smashed repeatedly in the face with an iron.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

AMEN!

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 9, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh believe me, I've despised Dip for YEARS now...

…dating back to when I was a fan of the “real” Cowboys… That no-talent hack rode Tom Landry for the last several years of his career, taking pot shots at a man whose boots he was not worthy to loosen.
But much like watching some of the guys that get promoted in the corporate world, logic doesn’t seem to apply.

"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
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by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has Maehl

been taking reps as KR. The guy seems to have decent speed

by ketchuppants7 on Aug 9, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions  

So far, no.

Townsel has however. And didn’t do too badly at it today either.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn they pulled out all the stops for the first depth chart.

Maybe I can find out who their dealers are, cause it has to be some good stuff.

by b0ng on Aug 9, 2011 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

anyone tweeting from practice????

It takes a big man to walk away, but a bigger man to break his freaking jaw!

by USMC_Texas on Aug 9, 2011 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

BigRon281

PHABMK6
NickScurfield

I dunno if UT is or not, but I know those first 3 are.

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by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't have internet on my phone.

So no Twitter from practice for me.

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Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Something that must be said...

Aside from center and maybe a linebacker spot or two, there’s just a ton of quality depth. That’s a testament to how far this team has come.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:38 AM CDT reply actions  

I agree

but you could also throw in some Dline depth as well

by Zukywich08 on Aug 9, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I forgot about NT

but, then again, so have the Texans.

Ba-dum-tch. Thank you! Thank you! I’ll be here all week, folks!

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have nothing real to contribute.

I say Anthony hill should be called, Anthony Over the Hill

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by Schlauton on Aug 9, 2011 10:40 AM CDT reply actions  

Good news everyone
LanceZierlein Lance Zierlein
Owen Daniels looks like he is back in pre-ACL form.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Id rather hear this about Demeco

because we all knew Daniels would be back by now

Hate to beat a dead horse, but meco and cush really REALLY concern me at this point

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by AllenOU on Aug 9, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't remember if it was Ron or Pat D. Starr

but one of them had positive observations about DeMeco.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I need to see live bullets

I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go fuck himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter

by AllenOU on Aug 9, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haven't heard otherwise

but I think he’s playing on Monday. That’ll be a huge watch.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

All this talk I’m getting from TC is nice but nothing is better than seeing with my eyes how these guys look in a game against another team.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

900-1000 yards this year for him.

If he goes the full 16.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Next Monday.On ESPN.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yea I know for us

Im saying like out of the whole NFL?

by Zukywich08 on Aug 9, 2011 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks man

Thursday cant get here fast enough

by Zukywich08 on Aug 9, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know.

Can’t wait for those preseason games. Which somehow seem more appealing right now than ever before.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Seattle/San Diego will be televised as well.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm all tingly.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Prolly fleas... No telling where you cats have been.

"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
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by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 6:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

First of the season is Thursday.

First for Texans is MNF.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glover Quin is so good that he is starting at left cornerback and strong safety.

I lol’d

I am Sancho

by HoustonTransplant on Aug 9, 2011 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Kareem is so bad, he was left off the depth chart

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

A little off subject

but how does the supplemental draft work? Any good players that we might go after?

by Zukywich08 on Aug 9, 2011 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

Not likely

It’s basically for players who didn’t enter the draft & had something happen (i.e. getting kicked off the team) to make them try to enter the NFL. I think it almost like bidding for a player, but you bid with next year’s draft picks. Terrelle Pryor is probably the only guy in this draft, so it’s not likely we’re going after him, but I think someone will give up a third for him (if he’s even eligible for it)

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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

You never know.

Some teams get stupid and give up a high 2nd round pick for a player like Tony Hollings.

D’OH!

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by Seaborn1 on Aug 9, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard Caleb King will be in it as well

how many players normally enter it? And if we have to give up future draft picks I wouldnt do it

by Zukywich08 on Aug 9, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes

If you pick up a player in the supplemental, you forfeit next years “projected” round that the player you pick up is in.

As for how many players normally enter, it can fluctuate. Players who have been booted off the squad or don’t like their current situation usually end up declaring for the supplemental. It’s usually a small amount though.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scurfield
NickScurfield Nick Scurfield
Texans TE Owen Daniels said after practice today that this is the best he has felt since before he tore his ACL in ’09

Have to say it again. OD 900-1000 yards if he goes the full 16. Maybe 10 TD’s to.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 12:17 PM CDT reply actions  

OD is such a vital component to our offense.

Some people just don’t realize how much we missed out when he went down with the ACL injury. I cannot wait to see him on the field during the first regular season game. He’s really underrated.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Completely. I missed him.

by JG25 on Aug 9, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good Ol' Steve

I’m a huge fan of Mr. Slaton, but he obviously doesn’t fit. Kind of slightly off topic from the depth chart, but where do you think he’ll land?

by JG25 on Aug 9, 2011 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Someone will sign him as a 3rd down back.

He’ still got explosion and is a nice receiving threat on passing downs. Just fumble’s to much to be the main RB.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I hope he lands on a team I could stand

Like Iunno… any NFC team almost, or the Chargers or something. I could see him fitting into SD actually… but I don’t want Mario to have to tear his head off in the AFC championship thoguh..

by JG25 on Aug 9, 2011 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll still say St. Louis.

San Francisco also another possibility.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

St. Louis signed Jerious Norwood

so unless he gets injured, there’s no spot for Slaton there

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Norwood's not a speedy guy like Slaton, right?

/getting Norwood mixed up with another back at the moment.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he is

He was Michael Turner’s back up last year, but he didn’t stay healthy

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

StephStradley Stephanie Stradley
Nice to hear @johnson80 saying " @JJWatt is a beast" on sports radio 610. They need that./blockquote>

by steelblue on Aug 9, 2011 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Now it's official.

Not that I didn’t trust our amazing training camp reporters, but that’s high praise coming from one beast to another.

by Nashmeister on Aug 9, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

JJ

Can’t wait to get my Watt jersey… so down.

by JG25 on Aug 9, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not one single bad word on Watt....

That’s what you want from your first round pick…..Good job, Wade!

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

At this rate, I fear J.J. Watt will be to me

What Ben Tate is to Kerns.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

If he plays as well as he's practicing

I think we’re all gonna own 99 jerseys and be busting out Watt puns.

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by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just might get one of those

Also, would like a BRB tee………

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by Rip Jersey on Aug 9, 2011 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holliday Takes A Holiday

Damn….gave away the title already

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by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

beledat rec'd

"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
- tehGrindCrusher

by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1 for boondocks

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

by Joe25 on Aug 9, 2011 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Kareem Jackson ain't lookin real familiar right now

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

mcclain said that he's been getting better everyday and he played well today

he also said that every time kareem jackson goes to the side, johnathan joseph comes over to talk to him

by steelblue on Aug 9, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

You add Vickers in with his 90 overall just replaces Vonta overall

Johnathan Joseph is a 89 and that really helps considering our highest DB is a 80. Still waiting to see chicago team to see what Manning is.

by southpaw70 on Aug 9, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Obviously not the updated rosters

I’ll wait till those are released

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

the rosters will be updated when the game comes out on the 30

and I believe some of the ratings will change before the first game on sept 11

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God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Aug 9, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like these ratings

apparently jacob tamme is an 83 and owen daniels is an 86. I think joel dreesen didn’t get any love

by steelblue on Aug 9, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

did anyone realize

andre is the only wr >80. They always short change kdub he should b an 80 @ least.

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"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Aug 9, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even Madden knows we need a legit #2

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 9, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think what pisses me off most

is that it leads into the argument by non texan fans to say, “you have no receivers other than andre!” oh yeah what about kevin walter? “kevin walters isn’t good otherwise madden wouldn’t put him @ 77!”

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"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Aug 9, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't take madden ratings as truth

but, it does show you how others view our team

"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Aug 9, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

His speed should be a little higher.

And his catching could go up to.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

which would jump him to 80

which I could live with…

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"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Aug 9, 2011 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

And our secondary

JoJo is rated 89. Quite a step above KJax and Allen sitting at 75

UTD whoosh

by Marzindells on Aug 9, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure this depth chart

Was written by Helen Keller.

I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.

by DaGoaT on Aug 9, 2011 1:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Roc Carmichael separated his shoulder.

He was in a sling today.

Don’t know how long he’s out for.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 9, 2011 1:25 PM CDT reply actions  

He told me it isnt that bad, hopes to get snaps on MNF

I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go F*** himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter

by AllenOU on Aug 9, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice.

Good to have a source like you who knows these guys personally.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 9, 2011 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

He angered the football gods for dislocating 'Dre's finger.

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Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

done

I see myself as an entertainer and an Icon. Oh and C finnegan can go F*** himself. @THEREALALLENOU on twitter

by AllenOU on Aug 9, 2011 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nominated.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

remind us

when the voting begins.

by CJ3m on Aug 9, 2011 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

When did Amanda start working for CBS?

"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
- tehGrindCrusher

by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reality? Okay, this is not surprising....

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Aug 9, 2011 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not seeing...

…how they are going to fully utilize her talent for flirting with fat over-the-hill farts to advance her career, but I guess they know best. Heaven knows journalism isn’t a prerequisite.

"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
- tehGrindCrusher

by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy crap, we have to win this!

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Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Consider it done, done and done!

MeMongo for official chairmanship on this! I hand over my Send Leach to the Beach gavel to you!

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Aug 9, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did so earlier but I thought I might as well tell you people that I did.

I need to get my name out there you know!

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by Schlauton on Aug 9, 2011 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just hooked this blog up

Follow me on twitter: @Super_Stud2100

by Antho10000 on Aug 9, 2011 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Booyeah!

Thats one more nomination for Houston’s best blog in 140 characters or less!

by jstid911 on Aug 9, 2011 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Power Rankings are out...

Cowchicks are 15th while Texans are 16th… I call bullshit and site the fact that some of the “voters” didn’t pay attention to the cowpatties or Texans offseason maneuvering.

by Bennyscrap on Aug 9, 2011 2:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I'd prefer that everyone is underestimating us.

We’ve been picked as the surprise team every year and haven’t made the playoffs. Now that everyone is off our bandwagon, it’s time for us to prove them.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

But we usually come in that 13-18 range anyways.

And it’s a coin flip between us and the Cowturds to be honest. We were both equally bad last year on defense.

Although I’d take our offense over the theirs.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Depth chart has been updated

Now showing K-Jax as second starting CB. Still showing Darius Morris as starting RG. Maybe not a mistake after all?

by JP-Houston on Aug 9, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Interesting.

Maybe he’s just been kicking a lot of ass in camp and they wan’t to see if he’s for real of just a TC warrior.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I haven't seen him work with the other starters

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 9, 2011 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Darius Morris

Chuck Norris in disguise. Also, Chuck’s not good at picking out an alias.

"There's a lot that people don't know. Like our names." - Matt Hasselbeck

by HowieC on Aug 9, 2011 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

unrelated but

Steve Smith was carted off the field wth a finger injury… When will the madness end?!

by chaserjames on Aug 9, 2011 3:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Madden 12

has Vonta Leach rated as 91 and (wait for it) Lawrence Vickers rated at 90

Jonathan Joseph is rated at 89

by MghtyPtrck on Aug 9, 2011 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

As far as running backs are concerned...

I think it’ll be Foster starting (obviously), Ward as primary back-up, Tate at #3, Slaton traded, and Chris Oingoboino on the PS.

by BricAM on Aug 9, 2011 6:40 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

rec'd for OingoBoingo

"And I’m sure [Kareem Jackson] would have a wonderful career as a professional interpretive dancer, with all that flapping his arms and falling down."
- tehGrindCrusher

by DilloTex on Aug 9, 2011 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

practice feeds

newbie on brb. been reading post on here for a long time. finally decided to join. so where can i watched the taped practices?

by texansboy4life on Aug 9, 2011 8:23 PM CDT reply actions  

Get in touch with Josh McDaniels or...

i’m pretty sure anyone on the Patriots staff could point you in the right direction

by MghtyPtrck on Aug 9, 2011 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

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