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Texans Training Camp Report: August 9th

After missing Sunday's camp, I was back at it this morning. My seat wasn't the greatest, but I had a decent angle on how things played out.

I payed attention to the defense, mainly because I assume our offense is fine (and because I'm a defense type of guy).

I left after 11 on 11 because I assume the rest is special teams and drills, and that doesn't really do it for me.

Well, here it is:

Star-divide

The Good

DE/DT J.J. Watt - This guy never ceases to impress. The thing that always jumps out is his ability to shed blocks. I remember on a running play, he shed the RG's block, then got past Vickers. Due to that disruption, Derrick Ward had to bounce outside, where he was chased down by LBs. Excellent, excellent camp so far for the 1st round pick.

NT/DT Earl Mitchell - Earl did not get blown up by Kasey Studdard today, so he's now on this list. Earl got great penetration all day. Whether it was getting by his man, or pushing him back, he was causing hell. I think he's going to flourish in this one-gap system.

CBs Brandon Harris/Jason Allen - Both Harris and Allen were solid in coverage today. I remember one play where Leinart was the QB, and Allen and Harris were on the left side of the field, with Harris in the slot. Harris gobbled up Jacoby Jones, and Allen covered up Dorin Dickerson. Leinart was forced to run out of the pocket and run out of bounds. Harris is definitely going to push for playing time. Very smart player.

RB Ben Tate - Tate has had a very good camp. Whether it was bouncing outside, or exploding through holes, he was gaining yards. Ward didn't look that great today, so it should be a good battle for the backup RB job in Pre-Season.

OLB/DE Mario Williams - Mario did his usual thing, which was shedding blocks and putting pressure on the QB. He's going to put up big numbers this year.

QB Matt Schaub - Schauby's play-action fakes are ridiculous. Faked out half the secondary one play and found OD on the outside for a 20 yard gain.

TE Owen Daniels - Speaking of OD, he was great today. Not only did he have the one great catch for 20-25 yards, but he was owning the middle as well. If he stays healthy, this offense will be the best in the NFL.

DE Tim Jamison - When it wasn't J.J. Watt wrecking the right side of the OL, it was Tim Jamison. One play he just burst through Mike Brisiel and got to the RB with ease. He should make the team.

ILB Darryl Sharpton - Sharpton continues to impress. He's shooting gaps and making plays in the backfield. He did get burned though by OD on that 20-25 yard catch.

WR Kevin Walter - K-Dub was on his game today. His route running has to be flawless. He makes it look so easy, and no matter the CB, he was getting open. Hell, he even got past JJo a few times.

WR Andre Johnson - 'Dre was burning fools as usual. AJ ran a comeback route on K-Jax in man coverage and then turned around the opposite way and ran for a TD.

WR Dorin Dickerson - Dorin's route running has improved. Ran a nasty in-and-out route on Brice McCain and schooled him. But, Leinart made a piss poor throw to Dickerson on that play.

OLB Bryan Braman - Has a hell of a motor. Made some plays in the backfield.

The Bad

OG Kasey Studdard - Studdard was his usual self today. He finally remembered that he was Kasey Studdard, and instead of kicking Earl Mitchell's ass, Earl Mitchell kicked his. Earl bull rushed the shit out of him and tackled Derrick Ward in the backfield. I don't know why we still have this guy.

Right side of the first team OL - Whether it was Winston or Caldwell or Brisiel on the right side of the 1st team OL, they were getting their asses kicked, particularly by Watt. Didn't see any problems on pass protection from that side, but they were fairly poor on running plays.

NT Shaun Cody - Cody didn't get abused, but he got pushed back pretty consistently. Never saw any type of penetration or disruption by him, which is a must for a NT. Mitchell's going to win this job in the Pre-Season.

The Ugly

CB Kareem Jackson - K-Jax was absolutely terrible today. AJ burned out him badly on a comeback route, and then Kevin Walter got him on a post route. He better be amazing in zone coverage this year.

CB Brice McCain - I think we've seen the last of Brice McCain, at least until after the Pre-Season. Dorin Dickerson got him on a double move, and Jacoby Jones burned him on a crossing route. This guy just straight up sucks.

RB Steve Slaton - Steve had a nice run early on, but then he fumbled the ball in front of the crowd, and got rightfully booed for it. He's a goner.

I hope these observations helped.

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How did RB Chris Obanaya (spelled wrong) look today?

by b0ng on Aug 9, 2011 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

He looked good.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 9, 2011 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

great post!

how did jacoby jones look? ive been hearing hes looking like he did at the end of last season….

how is he looking in the kr/prgame?

also is dorin dickerson able to tak advantage of his speed?

by Samarth Sulhan on Aug 9, 2011 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

To be fair to Jackson

Twitter blew up when he broke up a pass intended for Andre. So there’s that…haha.

Mario and J.J. are going to hurt someone this year. That’s a deadly combination.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

I did read K-Jax played better.

I had to leave after 11 on 11 though.

Will stay for 7 on 7 and redzone stuff tomorrow.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 9, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just wondering.

Do you need a ticket to get into TC or is it first come first serve?

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

yes

go to the mothership and it will link you to “buy” (they are free) tickets. They have seat assignments, which I hope aren’t enforced, because that would suck. Last year I really enjoyed walking around and watching the individual line drills.

And I HATE that loud crap music they blast at the stands.

by smokehaus on Aug 9, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You need a ticket to get in, which are free at the Mothership.

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by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one excited about Dick

erson. I think he’ll sit at WR4 for awhile but in a yer or two he will make major push to play opposite of andre. I am rooting for this guy 100%

by BC5 on Aug 9, 2011 2:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I see what you did there...

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Aug 9, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol'd at work

thanks for making me look like crazy

by chaserjames on Aug 9, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks for the mental pic. now I need brain bleach.

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Never try to baptize a cat.

by texanslady on Aug 9, 2011 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

now texanslady

did yourmental image include lions literally raping the hyena or just kicking it’s ass?

"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans

by Taco Joe on Aug 9, 2011 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

the rape

"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli

"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson

"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock

Never try to baptize a cat.

by texanslady on Aug 10, 2011 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

....but that's something I would actually like to see

"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds

by papabear on Aug 10, 2011 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

So what I'm getting from these camp reports on K-Jax.....

Is that he’ll make 1 good play out of every 5 or so, but the rest of the time he’s getting burnt like toast in every way imaginable.

I’m sorry but I’m no longer buying the excuses that his issues were all coaching related.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 9, 2011 2:40 PM CDT reply actions  

It is gonna take more than 1 week of coaching to get him up to par…but I agree patience is wearing thin

by SMITHILLIAK on Aug 9, 2011 2:57 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think he’s gonna need at least till week 10 or so b4 any improvement is noticed

by SMITHILLIAK on Aug 9, 2011 2:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hack'd

I apologize for the error. Will not happen aain sir

by SMITHILLIAK on Aug 9, 2011 3:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

he's battlin'

I believe in the guy.

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 9, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a good kid

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 9, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

...

gritty?

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 10, 2011 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

K-Jax isn't white

Wait, has he been hanging out with Sammy Sosa?

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 10, 2011 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I SAID STAY IN CHARACTER!

You should have said “We believe in him, he is battling and we hope to see some things out of him”

We are all important to each other, and because of this we have a purpose. - Daniel Black (Yes, that's me)

by Schlauton on Aug 9, 2011 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

this

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 9, 2011 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doesn't seem to be taking Harris that long

And he’s a rook. Kareem may have had piss ass coaching last year but people need to own up to the fact that the kid is WAY less skilled than he was hyped up to be coming out of college.

NFL ready my ass

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 9, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't stay in character

I agree he was all hype. And he’s only taken a step back last year so hopefully we didn’t waste a first round pick even tho it looks like it right now.

by SMITHILLIAK on Aug 9, 2011 5:06 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

But

Now that we’ve realized after 10 years that we can’t draft for right now hopefully we’ll continue on with our heads out of our asses.

by SMITHILLIAK on Aug 9, 2011 5:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is it too late to trade him for Taylor Mays?

I think Mays is more salvageable than K-Jax

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 9, 2011 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

These kinds of posts are exactly what I want to read about. I think they gotta be bumped to the front page. Keep it up!

UTD whoosh

by Marzindells on Aug 9, 2011 2:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice Work, B31C

Added to the front page.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Aug 9, 2011 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

WATT on the right??

I thought he was playing on the Left with Mario

by ketchuppants7 on Aug 9, 2011 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

Yea I know

I always look at defenses with an offensive players point of view.(habit from high school football) Anyways, doesnt the WOLB on Wade 3-4 rush at the LT most of the time. So Watts on the opposite side of Marop

by ketchuppants7 on Aug 9, 2011 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Technically, yes....

Since Demarcus Ware rushed from the right but I believe it’s a matter of mismatches. I think eventually, we are going to see Mario rush opposite from where ever Watt is positioned since OL’s will try to stack two defenders on Watt’s side. Phillips is probably just positioning Mario behind Watt as a test and to also keep our D unpredictable.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

From what I’ve understood so far, when we’re standing Mario, he will often be given the responsibility to make a pre-snap read, and then choose where to line up based upon his read.

by Cut Block on Aug 9, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks B31C

I was watching the ABC13 special Texans season premiere and saw some video of Brandon covering some guys. He just looks fluid when backpedaling and re-positioning to match up to the receiver, something I don’t see from KJax. Good to know Dorin is catching some people’s eyes. Hopefully he continues to gain and hopefully line opposite of AJ. And finally good to hear that a ILB is doing well. Depth at that position is a must because of all the question marks with the ILB core.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 3:51 PM CDT reply actions  

Re: Harris

I noticed the same thing. He looks very fluid and crisp out of his breaks. Again, something K Jax seems to struggle greatly with. I hate to bag on the kid but he’s really not that good right now and doesn’t need to be penciled in as a starter by default. I think the only reason he’s listed as the #2 is a courtesy to the front office due of his draft position.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 9, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd have to agree with you here

The time off because of the lockout and the lack of skills in man-to-man coverage is really hurting him. I think the coaches need to pull him out of the #2 and let him work his way up. It would be a humbling experience for him and it gives him a chance to rework his skills. And to say it’s only 1 week into camp and he didn’t get good coaching last year is just high optimism. He has to reevaluate himself and become better for him and the organization. In order to do that, the coaches/FO cannot cradle him anymore because there is no excuse to looking worse than a 2nd round rookie.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Comes as no surprise.

Harris was a mid second-rounder in a draft that was absolutely stacked with CB talent. Kareem was a projected mid second-rounder in a pretty weak CB class. Throw Harris and Dowling into that 2009 draft class and they’re probably mid first-rounders.

by Nashmeister on Aug 9, 2011 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of a talented class...

2012 WRs is going to be stacked (barring anyone returning back to school)….. Alshon Jeffrey, Justin Blackmon, Jeff Fuller, Michael Floyd, Ryan Broyles, Greg Childs, Mohamed Sanu…… The last four I mentioned will probably be picked in the second/third round, even though they have first round talent.

by Tony Ung on Aug 9, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

The whole draft seems to be loaded with talent. It’ll be hard for a team not to come up with a few great players, I wonder who the texans will be picking with that 32nd pick.

by BC5 on Aug 9, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

i'm not worried about his #2 status.

Wade has gotten to do anything he wants so far (Thank Durga) and he isn’t going to put KJax in unless he thinks he’s the next best behind JJo. i’m guessing that means he’s not… unless Wade sees something we don’t.

Thank God for football!

by BattleRedHusker on Aug 9, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

In Wade we trust.

"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli

"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson

"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock

Never try to baptize a cat.

by texanslady on Aug 10, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Re: Dorin

You want to see Jacoby Jones push to get better? Hello Dorin!

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Aug 9, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

Love a a good report from traning camp. gonna be there for my first time on friday

by joezsloppy on Aug 9, 2011 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

k-jac

I would expect more from a former 1st round pick, with one full season under his belt. I blame the FO, Whoever it was that made the pick. It is not his fault we took him in the first. But he is performing like a 3rd-5th round rookie. There is no excuse for Harris to be having a better camp than K-Jac

by b4theproffit on Aug 9, 2011 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

He may just not make it

but then again, even Scrabble didn’t start until year 3 and spent time on special teams at first.

KJax has a lot of work to do, and a lot to prove for that 1st round pick.

by MeMongo on Aug 9, 2011 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

TDC

Give up on him, already. He consistently gets burned by undrafted rookies. Allen will be the #2 by Sept. 11, he,also was a former 1st round pick, I believe. Getting burned 3 times in a row, then breaking up one pass is not a good ratio for a CB.
Joseph #1, Allen #2, NFZ #3.

by SpaceCityFan on Aug 9, 2011 6:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Funny you should say that

I’m addressing CB2 in the morning.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Aug 9, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

If K Jax continues to underwhelm

What are the odds he breaks camp as the #2? I know its important for the front office to save face and all but it has to be more important to win right?

by Its Gonna Happen on Aug 9, 2011 4:52 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't think Wade will let that happen

The front office may want to save face but I don’t think that matters to our new DC. I can’t believe he would start someone that is going to be a liability to the team.

I hope either Jackson makes a miraculous leap to respectability or Wade demotes him. Whichever comes first.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 9, 2011 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Option #3

We trade him away for Taylor Mays so we have more safety depth. At least Mays has shown he can do a few things right

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 10, 2011 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

It would be nice to add more quality depth at safety but I don't see it happening

They aren’t going to give up on Jackson any time soon.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 10, 2011 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kubiak knows

everything is on the line this season. There is no way he (and Wade) start a guy who is inferior to his backup for the sake of appearances—or for any other reason. If K-Jac is not the 2nd best outside corner on this team by the Colts game, he will not start.

by knave64 on Aug 9, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lance Z seems to favor Allen for the #2 starter

and Kubiak said, via Scurfield:

NickScurfield Nick Scurfield
Texans coach Gary Kubiak said this afternoon “there’s absolutely no doubt” that CB Jason Allen could push for a starting spot

by WhiskeyR on Aug 9, 2011 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I guess I don't need to post anything today.

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Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 5:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Oh, and rec'd!

Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.

Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

HA!

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 9, 2011 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

What pass deflection. K-Jac deflected a pass against Andre??? PROVE IT!

"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli

"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson

"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock

Never try to baptize a cat.

by texanslady on Aug 9, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know what they say about blind squirrels?

…..even Dillo can catch one of those!

I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.

by Rip Jersey on Aug 9, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

You people need to stop booing Slaton!

We’re never going to get anything for him in a trade if you people don’t cheer no matter what he does.

by SubCrim on Aug 9, 2011 5:49 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

booing your own players always seems so stupid to me

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 9, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only for lack of trying.

I can’t come up with a Texans’ example, but with the ‘stros, I’ll boo Carlos Lee all day long; yet I feel compelled to cheer for a guy like J.R. Towles.

by Nashmeister on Aug 9, 2011 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think its classless

pointless, and stupid unless the dude is Michael Vick or a rapist, or a lazy bum. Booing them does nothing but make you look stupid.

You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view--until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.

by nolander on Aug 10, 2011 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

In your eyes maybe

Although I don’t do it myself, I for one believe a paying fan has the right to boo whoever he/she chooses. And if I did decide to do it, I certainly wouldn’t give a shit what you or anyone else thought.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 10, 2011 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Correction

I did boo David Carr, and I’m completely unapologetic about it.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Aug 10, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was at practice today.

How can I load up pics?

My attitude is like a virgin......I dont give a fuck!

by The Abrego on Aug 9, 2011 7:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope he can lead Foster to another Pro Bowl

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid

by The Night Owl on Aug 10, 2011 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great job with the post

I think I have said since the end of last season that Jason Allen would beat out Kareem

"All our lives, we’re taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover."-Arian Foster

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by Barryfromtexas on Aug 9, 2011 9:10 PM CDT reply actions  

how far in advance are tickets available?

i tried to get a ticket for friday but no luck. does anyone know if im doing something wrong?

- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Aug 9, 2011 10:03 PM CDT reply actions  

You might be too late.

Got mine a week or two ago.

"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.

by bone31crusher on Aug 9, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I got mine the day they went "on sale."

A couple of weeks ago. You can find out which days are available on the Mothership.

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Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.

I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!

Football is war by other means. - Carl von Clausewitz...sorta.

by UprootedTexan on Aug 9, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

i did and it said wednesday and friday were still available.

maybe i cant get them since its so late at night. might only be open during the day.

- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.

"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers

by NoSafetiesNeeded on Aug 10, 2011 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kareem should in no way start...

Every day I was at training camp last week, he was constantly being burned. I think I saw him make one decent play all week. I feel bad for him, but I think it would be best if he never saw the playing field next year. Harris seems to be out performing him everyday.

by Whitney Parks on Aug 10, 2011 10:37 AM CDT reply actions  

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