34-7? Sounds About Right.
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 9:30 AM CDT
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PrintOf all the things to be critical of after the 34-7 defeat of the Colts, I find the "Gary Kubiak didn't shove their faces in their own feces and run up the score because 35-3!" argument the most confounding. Yet, there is a rather sizable contingent of the fan-base upset the Texans didn't run up the score, claiming it shows "weakness" on Kubiak's part. Obviously, I couldn't disagree more, and after the jump, I'm going to lay out my arguments about why Kubiak played the second half dead-on perfectly.
First of all, let's break down the play-calling to start the second half offensively. From Yahoo!:
1st-10, HOU20 11:54 B. Tate rushed to the left for 2 yard gain
2nd-8, HOU22 11:20 M. Schaub passed to A. Johnson to the left for 6 yard gain
3rd-2, HOU28 10:47 M. Schaub passed to J. Casey to the right for 13 yard gain
1st-10, HOU41 10:00 B. Tate rushed to the left for 5 yard gain
2nd-5, HOU46 9:22 B. Tate rushed to the left for no gain
3rd-5, HOU46 8:40 M. Schaub incomplete pass to the left
4th-5, HOU46 8:23 B. Hartmann punt, touchback
Three passes, three rushes. Balanced. If Kubiak/Rick Dennison would've called for four passes and two rushes, there would've been clamoring to run the ball more. This, however, was hardly a conservative second half opening drive, especially since we were up 34-0 at the time. Next drive:
1st-10, HOU20 5:30 S. Slaton rushed to the left for 13 yard gain
1st-10, HOU33 4:54 M. Schaub passed to S. Slaton down the middle for 6 yard gain
2nd-4, HOU39 4:54 Houston committed 5 yard penalty
2nd-9, HOU34 3:46 S. Slaton rushed to the left for 1 yard loss
3rd-10, HOU33 3:03 M. Schaub passed to J. Jones down the middle for 25 yard gain
1st-10, IND42 2:17 B. Tate rushed to the left for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, IND39 1:34 M. Schaub passed to J. Jones down the middle for 8 yard gain
1st-10, IND31 0:57 M. Schaub rushed to the left for 3 yard gain
2nd-7, IND28 0:22 B. Tate rushed to the right for 18 yard gain
4th Quarter
Houston continued
1st-10, IND10 15:00 B. Tate rushed to the right for 1 yard gain
2nd-9, IND9 14:33 M. Schaub incomplete pass down the middle
3rd-9, IND9 14:17 G. Brackett intercepted M. Schaub for 27 yards
Conservative! Where's the jack-booted knife to the throat like in a Steven Seagal movie with Chuck Norris dressed as a ninja Nazi with freaking lasers???
Sarcasm aside, that's an 11 play drive, burning 6:15 off the clock, as your JUGGERNAUT moved the ball, in fairly easy fashion, 71 yards. In addition, that's five rushes and six passes while we're up 34-0. Conservative? No, that's ball control and balanced while you're up big, burning clock (which is your primary concern heading into the 4th quarter), and you're making smart plays. Of course, Matt Schaub kinda, sorta, and completely made a poor decision throwing the pick to Gary Brackett (though, to be fair to Schaub, there was a second defender between he and Slaton. Wait, that's not fair at all. I'm just being a jerk now. And why am I still in this parenthetical? I have no idea. Women are like beer.). Next possession, STILL up 34-0 after Adam Vinatieri missed a field goal.
1st-10, HOU27 10:27 B. Tate rushed to the left for 4 yard loss. B. Tate fumbled. P. Angerer recovered fumble and returned for 10 yard
Oops. Of course, Kubiak's play-calling could've been more aggressive. We could've gone for a big play to really stick it to them there Colts. Something like this, perhaps? GO FOR THE THROAT!!! And it was finally when we got the ball back after the Colts scored their touchdown, with 9:17 left in the game, your JUGGERNAUT up 34-7, and the Colts with a lesser chance to win than I have with Allison Brie, did Kubiak and Dennison finally go fo' realz conservative:
1st-10, HOU20 9:17 B. Tate rushed to the right for 2 yard loss
2nd-12, HOU18 8:32 B. Tate rushed to the right for 2 yard gain
3rd-10, HOU20 7:49 B. Tate rushed to the left for 6 yard gain
4th-4, HOU26 6:57 B. Hartmann punt, no return
I do hope it's OK your Texans burned out the clock on their last drive:
1st-10, HOU16 4:49 B. Tate rushed to the left for 12 yard gain
1st-10, HOU28 4:05 B. Tate rushed to the left for 4 yard gain
2nd-6, HOU32 3:21 B. Tate rushed to the left for 3 yard gain
3rd-3, HOU35 2:39 B. Tate rushed to the left for 5 yard gain
1st-10, HOU40 2:00 M. Schaub rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
2nd-11, HOU39 1:17 M. Schaub rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
3rd-12, HOU38 0:38 M. Schaub rushed up the middle for 1 yard loss
Before the final, game-ending drive, the Texans called passing plays nine times and ran the ball 11. Conservative play-calling? Not so much. Intelligent play-calling? Sweet old Korean lady? Yup.
Looking beyond the basic play-calling, though, there are additional reasons why it wasn't a swell idea to run up the score. First of all, do we really need to expose Andre Johnson to more hits? By this point in the game, Kubiak already knew that Kevin Walter was injured, and there was absolutely no need to expose GOAT to additional risk, though he did tally a catch early in the third quarter.
Most importantly, would it have been a good idea to antagonize the Colts by running up the score? Are these not professional athletes who don't need additional locker-room fodder to take out on us the next time around? Fact is, this isn't Steve Spurrier-esque college ball we're talking about here, where running up the score means something. We were able to rotate players on both sides of the ball, keeping our starters fresh for when they're needed most later in the season. From the beginning, it was blindingly clear the Colts would struggle to move the ball.
For all the criticisms of Kubiak over the years, the not "twisting the knife" conspiracy while we were up 34-0 confuses me. Theoretically, if Schaub doesn't throw the gimme pick, we're up 41-0. If Ben Tate doesn't cough up the ball a little later, there's no reason to believe we don't once again march down the field, if the previous drives were an indicator.
When you're up 34-0, it's the time to make smart decisions, not unnecessarily take chances. Kudos to Gary Kubiak for calling a well-balanced, intelligent game.
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"And why am I still in this parenthetical? "
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by MDC on Sep 12, 2011 9:33 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Yup... I luled
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re: Exposing Andre to more hits when the game is in hand, see, e.g., @ Carolina 2007, for why this could be a bad thing.
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David Anderson more likely
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
T.J. Housherdaddy?
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Sep 12, 2011 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I guess there will always be haters!!
“run the ball MOAR”
“Pass the ball MOAR”
I believe teh Schaub did get a little careless with his last pick. Otherwise, probably would have been 41-0
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
And if that TD had happened
I doubt anyone would be bitching about the second half
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Then you obviously don't pay attention to the crowd that hangs out here...
SOMEONE will ALWAYS find SOMETHING to criticize about:
1) Kubiak
2) Smith
3) McNair
4) Schaub
Bank on it.
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by DilloTex on Sep 12, 2011 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
blow me
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More like owing a refund
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How good are you in dealing with disappointment?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Texan's fan... Hellooo?
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That's almost a prerequisite of being a Texans fan
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by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
Steve McNair was a horrible person...
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Not sure if that's a serious reply.
But Dillo was referring to Bob McNair.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I'm never serious...
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You shut your mouth
Dorothy McNair was a saint!
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i just think it's learning HOW to play with a lead.
hopefully we will get plenty of practice.
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by chrisd21 on Sep 12, 2011 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, the Colts were struggling out there, but they will correct some things
and the Texans play them again. Why set yourself up for revenge and bad blood? They will improve as the season goes on. Collins will get more comfortable. The team will figure out their weaknesses all over the field. They will be better next time. Kubiak was perfect in the 2nd half. The turnovers are what kept the score close, IMO. But, you know what? That’s fine with me. If we are going to play sloppy, I would rather have it be when there’s a big lead. Next time, there may not be a big lead and that is when I don’t want the old Texans errors appearing.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Although, it would have been nice to see Kubiak light up a cigar with about 10 minutes to go and insert Matt Leinart.....
hahahaha!
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by Rip Jersey on Sep 12, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Or T.J. Yates
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed to either...
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Next time.... next time
I hope Kubiak learns from this…..
/takes another two cents from Dillo
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bah
BIG slap in the face to the Colts at that point. Almost as bad as running up the score. Putting Slaton in there was pretty bad as well (Although he was effectively the #2 dude).
Could easily be called getting some work in and also protecting your QB1 from needless injury
But, yes, slap in the face, too. But, the Colts put themselves in that position and if that is what they would call it, then too bad.
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I suspect 34-7 left a pretty bad taste in their mouth,
so they’ll be looking for revenge in week 16 regardless. We just have to keep improving also.
Here's to hoping JJ Watt was our last top 20 draft pick for a while
by Marzindells on Sep 12, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly.
The notion that the Colts would play harder next time if the Texans had scored more in the second half is silly to me.
I’d think going down 34-0 (one of the worst first half’s in Colts HISTORY) would leave a bad taste in their mouth and leave plenty of motivation for the next game. If the team doesn’t quit by then.
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Well, sure.
But it’s not in the same class as “They ran the score up on us because they’re such aholes.”
This was more “They beat the snot out of us, we’d like to get even.”
That’s a whole different thing.
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Really?
We came put in the 3rd quarter running the offense like normal. Colts players could take that as “wow the aholes are still trying to score on us even though this game is basically over”.
These guys are professionals.. If they expect the opposing team to “take it easy” in a blowout they aren’t very strong mentally. If you don’t want a team scoring more points on you stop them. Which by the way the Colts did getting an INT in the redzone to stop what would have been another scoring drive.
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I agree with you in principle
But I think my problem, during the game, was that it looked like that “same ol’ Texans” coming out flat after the half. And then, as I stated yesterday, Tate’s fumble gave me flashbacks to Rosencoptor.
In other words, fairly recent history caused me to doubt it was actually intentional.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 9:51 AM CDT reply actions
I don't get that line of thought
The Texans were a better second half team offensively last year, so how is it the “same ol’ Texans”? It’s hard to move the ball in the NFL. You will rarely ever see a game where one team consistently moves the ball throughout the whole game. It’s not like there were a bunch of three and out.
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by papabear on Sep 12, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I never said it was based in logic.
Just need some time to get comfortable with this team getting comfortable with a lead and being able to maintain it. ;)
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
At least you're brave enough to admit the truth...
I’m sure plenty of people felt the same way John. I did. Didn’t we have this chat yesterday?
Civilly, too!
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
We can have friendly disagreements.
The vitriol is reserved for Philly fans. ;)
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
And apparently cowturd fans
Last night anyways
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
As I admitted being raised in Dallas
I will admit having grown up a cowboys fan (which should explain the Philly comment, I got to see them every year), but I am recovering quite well from that time in my life.
Unfortunately, ALL of both sides of the family are huge cowboy’s fans.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
I offer my remorse for your position
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by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Pretty much.
I like the fact that the Texans are a class act, but given the very real times that they have had a lead and blown it, it was hard to see during the game that they were mostly playing clock management during the second half. Let’s face it, if you’ve been with this team the whole time, you’ve seen some pretty interesting ways of losing.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
when asked if they rattled Kerry Collins
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Great football quote
That’s what it’s all about. Collins was only taking the place of the Manning tackling dummy….
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They should have pulled out all the starters
In the 4th. Put in Lienhart and bring out some beers and folding chairs for Schaub, Tate, and Johnson. Great way to start the season!
by Merrell Michael on Sep 12, 2011 9:57 AM CDT reply actions 9 recs
Welcome, Merrell!
I completely agree with you. Several second stringers saw a lot of snaps in the second half (Bryant Johnson, Graham, Sharpton, Jamison), but I would’ve liked for Leinart to see some PT in the last couple of drives.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't have minded Leinart getting in there to hand the ball off a few times
Generally, I really liked the way they rotated in back ups in the second half. I noticed on one drive early in the third quarter we had only a few starters in the game. The Colts moved the ball a little and more starters came on to the field to kill the drive and keep the Colts from getting any momentum.
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When you’re 2nd or 3rd QB gets in there and we have an insurmountable lead I think they should let him run a normal offense. It’s not “running the score up” if you have 2nd teamers. How can a team get mad at the other team if the 2nd string QB torches the 1st string D? Embarrassing? Yes. Angry? No.
But they lost the 2nd Half!!
We’ve only won one half of football this season!!
Seriously though, that was almost too good yesterday. Bring on the Dolphins!
My personal favorite was watching Mario abuse Dallas Clark for his two sacks. Any coach from here on out that tries to just use a tight end on Mario should have their head examined, after their QB.
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by Austin Bob_Ford on Sep 12, 2011 10:03 AM CDT reply actions
This just in
Fans are dumb.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
by DaGoaT on Sep 12, 2011 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Why do you think it's called "fandom?"
fan+dumb
fandom
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HAAAA!!! /wags
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Early PFF numbers are intriguing.
They credit Watt with five QB pressures, and Mario with eight. That is a frightening side of the line.
On another note, Cody and Mitchell played a combined 26 snaps. Chalk that up as one of the reasons NT is a fairly inconsequential position on this defense.
//rushes off to PFF//
I’m sorry, but that’s just ridonkulous. 8? 5? HAHAHA!!!
The rankings also verified what I saw with Barwin, who had a pretty bad game.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow
just wow
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't believe it
Mario is a washed up DE forced into an OLB role that doesn’t fit his skillset.
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by Jordann on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't totally buy that
Of the Colts 15 runs, 7 went up the middle, and 5 went left or right guard. Only one of those - Carter’s 4Q run for 3 yards - was on third down (when the team was in the nickel package). The rest were 1st/2nd down, and the Colts were pretty clearly targeting the weak spot in the run D (and averaging 5 yards/carry in the first half on those runs). Yet, despite all of these runs coming at the NT, only Mitchell made even one tackle. Cody graded out at -1.6 in run defense.
Point being, against a team that doesn’t fall apart so quickly and can therefore continue to run, the number of snaps with a NT on the field will undoubtedly go up, and the lack of decent run defense by our current NTs will be a problem.
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So Mario....2 sacks, 2 hits, and 8 pressures and Collins dropped back 34 times it seems....
That’s not too shabby at all.
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You forgot the forced fumble
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by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
He caused Collins to fumble the ball
I’m pretty sure he impacted the QB on that one
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by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I sure thought intentional grounding counted as a sack
It should, credited to the nearest defender. Hell its a loss of down penalty. Call it what it is.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great 2nd half analysis BFD
The offense had a chance to run the score up with the long time eating drive. As stated above one more score and the Haters would have been feed their woopass goodness and would now sleeping in their beds fat dumb and happy. I am glad Kubs is coaching rather than the haters.
The clock management was excellent the 2nd half. Time of possession is the battle the Texans won this half & will keep doing so throughout the season. With the Int & Fumble it will give the coaches something to harp on to improve the offense.
The D was impressive but we can be burned on screens as seen last night. The coaches & Players still have some work to do. But overall this is the best D we have ever fielded.
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Also...
Credit to whomever said it yesterday, but we really didn’t seem to do anything remotely exotic except for a pair of safety blitzes. I don’t think Wade showed much yesterday.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
are you saying that was a vanilla defense?
or yes it was vanilla but it was like Bluebell vanilla instead of some junk they try to sell at a school cafeteria (a la Frank Bush Vanilla)?
=) just wondering. I loved the whole game — all four quarters.
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
It was French Vanilla with a dash of cinnamon
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by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
HA!
No caramel sauce AT ALL.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
This is true
And Mario only rushed from the outside
never the middle
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I saw one stunt
One.
@BRF: Yes, a vanilla 3-4 that got Mario 8 pressures and Watt 5.
I…I need a moment.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
that has a lot to do with us trying to use Clark alone on Mario
Clark’s only weakness is that he’s an average to subpar blocker for a TE.
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That's the point of a 3-4
Getting the OLB lined up on the TE. Creating pass rushing mismatches.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
yeah but I'm saying is that Clark is not the guy to do it if we're holding the TE to block
that should be more a capable TE like Brody Eldridge.
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Even then there isn't a TE in this league that can consistently block Mario.
His presence alone alters the player personnel and formations offenses will be able to use.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
sure there is
it’s just those TE/FB hybrids that aren’t a real pass catching threat. They are specialists and if they’re getting playing time it is just one less target on the field. Williams is going to impact the game in one way or another if he forces teams to line up a TE to block him.
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I've always thought that about Mario
Sometimes production doesn’t show up in numbers. If your opponents do planning around you, then you personally may not put up the numbers, but you are contributing just the same.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinda like when teams stop kicking to Devin Hester in his rookie year
The consequence was that they gave the Bears better field position instead of taking the risk of him running it back for a TD. They’re game planning around how to stop one player & it affects the rest of their plans
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Revis, Asomoghua (sp?), Ware
all kinds of defensive guys in the game that impact the game outside of the numbers. Mario is one of them.
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Which is where his size comes in.
I doubt there are many TE’s in this league that weigh even close to 285 which makes him a physical mismatch in terms of pure power. Than add his freakish athletic ability and you have a guy who you can’t trust a TE to block. At least not consistently.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
would THOR
be one of those tight ends? who could block Mario?
or the qualifying part of comment would be “blocking Mario consistently”?
of course THOR is now a Fullback but still. He’s the human swiss army knife — actually making me think we’re really lucky to have him on OUR team.
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
not sure who THOR is but I was thinking of guys like Lynch
who are FB or TE depending on which offensive scheme they play in.
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haha sorry
THOR = The Hero of Rice
aka James Casey.
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
And I don't hold his going to Rice against him.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions
A triple major at a top scholastic university
is nothing to hold against anyone. Hence his awesomeness.
Here's to hoping JJ Watt was our last top 20 draft pick for a while
by Marzindells on Sep 12, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
and we'll forever hold that against you...
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I'm betting that Johathan Fosburgh wasn't around for that.....
just sayin’…. that was a long time ago. I went to UMass in 77 and Dr J was a forgotten memory there, already. Know what I mean?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
You're right.
I was a wee little kid back then.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 13, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
/sighs
/Reaches for Geritol bottle.
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damn show-off
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im sorry, if u line mario and leach up and have them bulldoze into eachother, mario wins that.
leach would prolly need to cut block. there is no blockin tight end/fb who can constantly block mario. hell lt’s cant constantly block the guy.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
lt's=left tackles
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions
In the Texans O-scheme, Thor/Mario collisions would be commonplace
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Nah
Casey is a decent blocker, but he’s giving up 40 pounds to Mario. Casey is also pretty strong, but Mario is not even human. It’s like asking if a Lincoln Continental could consistently block an 18-wheeler.
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Yes, the object is to slow the 18-wheeler down and allow the QB a second or two
I saw Casey knock a few LBs on their keester yesterday pas the LOS. Solid blocks and they went down easily. Casey has it is all I can say about that and those LBs are no Mario.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
If you are asking him to slow Mario on a couple plays
he could probably do that. But the LBs he dropped were not coming at him full-tilt like Mario would be.
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That is correct
He was moving and they seemed to be backpedaling. But, knocking them on their ass is exactly that, and he will be getting a lot of pats on the back when they watch tape for those
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LOL ok
=) thanks for explaining.
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Texans2011=where dreams take wing....g.bush
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
did he really say that?
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~~ Fuzion
by BattleRedFan on Sep 13, 2011 6:44 AM CDT up reply actions
ya. i got the will ferrel stand up where he's acting like george bush and he keeps makin fun of him for sayin it. pretty funny shit.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 13, 2011 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
YES...
Lord he’s going to be a handful for teams this year. Someone said he’s the biggest OLB in the history of the game yesterday. And as stupidly athletic as any that have ever put on spikes maybe.
stealing your sig sir.
lol
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Smile and grin at the change all around me.. Pick up my guitar and play..
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aha!
now I’m starting to get it.
That’s the point of a 3-4
Getting the OLB lined up on the TE. Creating pass rushing mismatches.
Thank you for explaining that! And actually the Clark vs Mario mismatch is an excellent example. haha! the light goes on in my brain now.
I never understood the “mismatch” idea before now.
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Soo..
How often in practice do we get a Mario vs Thor matchup?
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
dunno =)
sounds interesting if it really happens.
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~~ Fuzion
by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the point might be, and this is not pointing at the Colts specifically
You can’t block Mario with a TE. At least not a pass-catching specialist TE.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
ok so it's not that a vanilla defense is inherently bad
so long as it’s getting the job done.
I remember how y’all used to just wretch about Bush’s vanilla defense. It feels like we have about 80% of the defensive players that we had last year. But this new “vanilla” scheme fits us just fine so far.
PLUS we’ve got many more players healthy — thank God! I imagine any defense would have been hobbled by how many players we lost to injury or inactivity (like Brian Cushing and Duane Brown).
I’m still SO glad we got Wade Phillips to be our defensive coordinator since he knows how to evaluate talent and then USE the talent he has.
=) in any case, thanks for clarifying.
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~~ Fuzion
by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
It only gets less Vanilla from here on out...
Perhaps next week we will see some praline added. Or perhaps a bit of strawberry syrup? Or maybe some cool whip with almonds.
Game tape will do wonders for showing them how they are progressing.
Nah, my guess is they add more cinnamon, but keep it pretty French Vanilla
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Save the fancy stuff for the Super Bowl. ;)
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Or at least the playoffs
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I LIKE the Super Bowl idea
=)
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Errr, well, good point, Counselor
To me, it’s like the difference between Bluebell Homemade Vanilla and 10-year old freezer burned generic vanilla made from soy milk.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
My all time favorite.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
I just finish the last of a half gallon right out of the carton during the game yesterday
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I'm thinking...
That we have lots of fat guys on this blog :D hehe the food talk is enough to make anyone go grab a turkey leg and a beer and go sit in front of the tube and watch DVR’d football in slow-mo. And this isn’t where people start putting in their stats and saying “I’m fucking built like an NFL CB”…nobody really cares, I’m just joking OK? SO SHUT UP!!!! :D
I could kick any know NFL Nose Tackles ASS!!!
…on the see-saw
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Lol...
Fat people are funny :D I should put on a few more pounds so I can be funny too!
Agreed Marine...
The Texans were abused a bit by a shitty running back. Granted they were so far down he didn’t get the ball very much, but Addai isn’t Chris Johnson or a Jones-Drew. And surprisingly Hassleback had a good game. I’m not trying to be a negative fan, but if our front 7 doesn’t get a consistent pass rush…there could be some high scoring shoot outs like last year.
Addai is far from a shitty running back
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Not very far
if he’s not a shitty RB, he lives next door to wherever the shitty RBs live.
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by MDC on Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think its a duplex
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- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Yes, just an average duplex with not lot of frills
Definitely not a builder’s model duplex…..
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
And that's not in Houston
Here's to hoping JJ Watt was our last top 20 draft pick for a while
by Marzindells on Sep 12, 2011 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
"Far"
Being…what? 2 inches? He’s a shitty running back bro. :D
he's averaged 4+ yards a carry for his career
is close to if not the best pass catching back in the league and is a great blocker. Just because he isn’t putting up 1200 yards a season doesn’t make him a bad running back. He’s just not your traditional version. He’s a passer’s RB.
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Hasselback did not have a good game
Decent stat line? Yes. Good game? Nooo
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Sep 12, 2011 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Did anyone notice if Mario dropped into coverage at all?
I think Dallas Clark was covering Mario, instead of it being the other way around.
Here's to hoping JJ Watt was our last top 20 draft pick for a while
I can't say I saw it
and I predicted it would happen
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
PFF says thrice.
Such a liability. He only apparently gets to the QB about four times for every time he drops into coverage.
by Nashmeister on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Does that mean he gets to the QB four times when he drops?
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Sep 12, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
WE DIDN'T SCORE 100 POINTS!!!11!!!1
THE TEXANS ARE SOFT! THEY HAVE NO KILLER INSTINCT!
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
by Joe25 on Sep 12, 2011 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Wow a D that was the bottom of the barrel, add Wade and watch the D go nuts. The Offense looked like they were on track as usual. Let the haters do the hate thing and the rest of us can laugh as Kubs and wade make these guys the division champs.
Playing a Manning-less Colts team helps
I think this year is going to shape up a lot like 2009 as far as the QBs we face. Brees, Rapelisburger, Flacco (whom I like), Freeman, Ryan, are easily the highest quality. The rest? Not so much.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok bro...
Let this be the last time I hear anyone on this blog say “Manning-less”. Not sure why but it’s kinda pissing me off. We smashed them in every facet of the game, not just defensively owning them passing wise. For all anyone knows the Texans would have smashed Manning even more had he been in the game…caused more fumbles, more contact during passes resulting in interceptions, etc etc. We both know our guys didn’t have the killer instinct like they would have if Manning were in there.
HA!
I hear ya, man. Personally, I believe it’s an important aspect. Manning, by himself, is probably worth 5 to 7 wins, which is utterly ridiculous. I did like the match-up even with Manning, as well.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Two things that probably don't happen with Manning...
The fumbled snap. That’s pretty rare to begin with.
The intentional grounding.
Of course, #1 above is probably what really put the game away.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
True...
Those two probably don’t happen. But Peyton is a brave pocket QB. He will stand in there until the last millisecond. Which would leave him more susceptible to having his throwing arm smacked while in motion. Not to mention sacks obviously. There is a possibility that this team is the perfect combination to defeat the Colts. Sick pass rushing, clock eating ball carriers, and Jacoby Jones’ mean face. He’s scary looking ain’t he?
Yeah...
But I think the Texans have been “on the verge” for a while now. And I think the Texans could sweep the Colts this year WITH Manning. Short of Manning they are a rather weak team. O-Line, run D, rushing the ball, pass D…and there ST sucks too. Not sure how the Texans could manage an L against this team to be honest with you.
This Texans team is not the same Texans team we have ever seen before
I would like to clarify your statement, if I may. They have been on the verge all preseason. I won’t dare go back any further, because this is just a different team. Your thoughts?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
It may very well be a different team in many respects
But we are the same fans. And given that we had a pretty good start just last season at 1-0, the same we are now, I don’t think its unreasonable to be a little nervous, while still enjoying what happened yesterday.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
especially being that the Texans...
Still haven’t played a real game yet. We suck John. We should just keep our mouths shut :D We’re gonna make the rest of them hate us for our negative nancy shit.
Oh, so it's you and Jonathan Fosburgh against the rest of us....
You are cautious, kinda Kubiak-esque cautious, while we are what, Rex Ryan brash?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Them some fine looking feet ya' got there Rip...
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- MDC
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Yes, exactly Rip...
You are all gung-ho footloving and I’m Kubiak’s younger and better looking brother.
Well, don't forget, there's a lot of us on the bandwagon....
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Well then I guess the foot-porn industry...
Is about to get more popular…I think I will open a site and get in on that.
Different Defense...
And I think that’s what puts them over the top. And I think they have been on the VERGE for much longer than just the pre-season. I have said it all off-season…had the Texans pulled out wins vs the Ravens, Jets, et al, they would have been a playoff team and so fucking battle tested that other teams would have been shitting themselves. With just a LITTLE more…they could have been a very scary team. Their record did not indicate how good of a team we had. It indicated that the teams nuts still had not dropped, but that says nothing of talent and grit on the offensive side of the ball.
And we might have kept Frank Bush and not had the benefit of Wade Phillips in this past draft
and, instead of selecting JJ Watt, we would have Prince! Okay, you need to open your eyes to that this is not the same team.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Good point...
Well said, nicely argued. We could be in a fast sinking boat this year.
I had to go to the pretzel hold, I know, but bringing in Frank Bush gets me a lot of submissions
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Speaking of Frank Bush
Does anyone have a comment on how the BESF’s LBs did yesterday?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
They sucked...
Just a guess, I have no idea really. If I were a betting man though…
They struggled with the run.
But that probably had more to do with their D-line getting pushed around and missing I think 2 starters. The whole unit did play better in the second half.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Yes, it does.
That’s like saying “It’s for the children!”…kinda fucked at that point.
In so many different ways
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- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
I wasn't aware that vanilla had that many different flavors...
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
There's Homemade & French Vanilla
But it’s a great base to add stuff to, like cinnamon, Oreos, Cinnamon Toast Crunch, & much more
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Cinnamon Toast Crunch...?
Color me intrigued.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Great combo for when you're out of milk
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 13, 2011 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Manningless
But they were Manningless. And, they played like it. I’m sure if they weren’t Manninless, the Texans would have played a lot more nickel. So, the Texans D-scheme was changed as a result of the Colts being Manningless. I don’t know how anyone can think being Manninless didn’t impact this game.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
You sir suck monkey balls.
Shriveled old monkey balls that have been covered in monkey shit. :D
/real LOL
nicely done
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Yes, while bfd is obviously the one kissing monkey scrotum
Rip tells it like it is….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
it did
and the colts offense were totally bamboozled by having to go to a huddle too.
Peyton Manning is a part of the very fiber of that organization.
They’re going to have to teach Kerry Collins how to run the offense without a huddle or learn how to huddle. My guess is , path of least resistance is “learn how to huddle”
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, great point
I heard that the Colts players didn’t know where to go sometimes, LOS or huddle, plus the snap count by Collins changed for the Colts players. I expect details like this to get ironed out. Look for a much better Colts team next time.
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much better but likely still mediocre at best
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ouch . . . just ouch
much better but likely still mediocre at best
is this brutal and scathing honesty about the Colts? or are you saying that Manning is SUCH a magician on the field that no other QB could hope to rival his work with the same exact team composition?
I had to double check that you really are a Colts fan ;-). I think I’m just stunned at the concept of a Colts team being mediocre at best. It does not compute.
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by BattleRedFan on Sep 12, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions
in this case manning shoulda prolly been league MVP for the last 5 or 6 years. he'd definitly b responsible for his teams success more than any other player.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
True but that's really an indictment against the GM as well.
A guy like Painter who’s been there for years and you have so little trust in him that you pull a 36 year old QB out of retirement to start your season opener 2 weeks before the season.
The defense has rarely been good and their personnel moves (mainly on defense and the O-line) have been awful.
Manning has excelled for sure (even though they have been feeding him 1st talent on offense for years) and is the reason they are even relevant but people have been calling this debacle we now know as the Manning-less Colts for years.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
ur argument is good,real good. it also helps prove my point.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
well put it this way...
the man has made a billion straight starts. Why invest heavily in a backup QB when you’re fairly certain he’s never going to be used. Are you going to have the same confidence in your team if Schaub goes down as you would without him. The way the game is played anymore, if your elite starter goes down you’re going to struggle.
As for the debacle that is the Manningless Colts, I wouldn’t call them a debacle. They’ll still win 6 or so games because of their schedule and if the OL grows at all behind 3 rookie/first year starters they’ll be better than that. This year’s Colts are just an unknown currently. I wouldn’t sleep on them though. The odds are they suck, but if a few things come together just right they’ll still compete for the division.
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Wow... you had me until "...compete for the division."
We’ll agree to disagree there.
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we have a pretty week schedule outside of you guys
and the Ravens, Saints, Patriots. If the offense is half as competent as it was under Manning, 9-10 wins isn’t unheard of. Just HIGHLY unlikely.
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they only won 10 games WITH manning las year. i THINK 6 wins is almost best case scenerio.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
remains to b seen
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I feel a lot better about having Matt Leinart behind Schaub than Collins or Painter behind Manning
So it’s not really a fair comparison. We did invest in a back up QB, and a rookie 3rd stringer that has played a similar system in college. The reason? If Schaub goes down we still have a shot. A much better shot than if we have to go out and sign an over the hill statue of a QB that has to learn our complex system in just 2 weeks. At least we won’t have to re-write the entire script if the unfortunate happens.
That’s why it’s important to invest in your backups.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
but the point is Manning has never ever ever had an injury
and was well on his way to being fine for the season until a setback in the last weekend of the offseason. So why would you invest in that roster spot that isn’t likely to be used when there are other glaring weaknesses on the team. Would you rather try and fill a back-up QB position or a starting offensive lineman? That’s the position the Colts were in. They went OL and it bit them when Manning regressed at the last minute.
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Eggs/baskets...
They gambled and lost.
Not much more in-depth analysis required than that.
Painter is a joke and they knew that…
Not buying insurance is irresponsible…
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"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
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by DilloTex on Sep 12, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just don't know where that insurance was supposed to come from
the FAs weren’t that great and there was nothing in the draft. If it makes you feel better The Colts were trying to coax Collins out of retirement for over a month before he agreed to.
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Once again I've miscommunicated...
…if I’ve left the impression that I could POSSIBLY feel any better right now.
It’s not my team that shat the bed on this one.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
theres been plenty of at least competent backups in free agency in the last couple years. thats crap
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions
well if they drafted a lil better. u might b able to afford to grab a quality backup mid rounds who u can groom. they were cocky thats all.they gambled and lost.
we’ve never made the playoffs and we’ve just about always had a decent backup.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
And he's how old now??
Seriously, not having a quality back up behind an aging QB who had already had neck surgery before is negligent, regardless of whatever twisted logic you choose to apply to the argument. Your front office gambled that he would be healthy enough to play, but it’s an even bigger gamble assuming he wouldn’t get hurt again at some point in his aging career.
Bottom line….your team didn’t have a contingency plan in place and it back fired. The End.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Packers drafted Rodgers in a similar situation with a QB who never seemed to go down.
Colts could have drafted a guy like that. Sure he might not touch the field but with Manning getting older and older you have to make that move for the future. Texans may have made a move kinda like that with Yates even. Schaub’s contract will be up in 2013 and he’s not getting any younger.
Just saying if you ride a guy so long and don’t bother to at least get a developmental QB you set yourself up for failure. It’s sad that the Colts have had Painter for a few seasons yet went with a QB who had been there only 2 weeks when Manning couldn’t go.
And the Colts really have issues on defense. They can’t stop the run at all and their pass defense is average at best. I have a hard time thinking they could beat the Jags or the Titans if the run defense will be like that all year. Along with the entire NFC South. Offense might come along but I think they’d had been competitive if Painter had played yesterday. Or at least been a little more capable on offense.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I agree on Painter
They didn’t even give him a chance. At least he’s been in the system for a couple of years. I suppose they’d still have to water it down some, but Collins had NO previous knowledge of the offense. To ask a guy to come out of retirement and open the season against a division rival with such short time to learn the plays is kinda negligent if you ask me. What does Collins offer that Painter doesn’t in that situation? A stronger arm?
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Nekkid pictures of the GM's wife?
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
more rounded and capable QB
Painter has had the last 2 years to earn that spot and he’s done nothing of the sort. I root like crazy for the guy cause he’s from just down the road but damn… he’s not an every day NFL QB.
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Painter is no good
they wouldn’t have been any better because Collins at least has a good accurate arm. Painter would have been just as rushed but thrown three picks in the process.
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well he's hidden a pretty bad O-Line for the last two to three years
unless they improve it doesn’t matter what available QB is back there he’s going to get killed. I don’t expect the OL to be good enough this year for any other QB but Manning or Brady. Thus the offense is going to struggle and the Colts will be mediocre. If Manning is back during the season they’ll be a playoff caliber team again.
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he tells every olineman who to block before every snap. they got spoiled i guess. if u didnt appreciate who good manning was before, u cant deny now
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions
3 new guys on the line this year as well
gonna take some time
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tru
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 13, 2011 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Next time?
Next week or in week 16? I should HOPE they would be better in week 16…then again, the Texans will have mastered the 3-4 and our running back situation won’t be so confused…and maybe we’ll have found a jewel or two from the draft class or PS.
uh no
I guarantee you that there is 0 possibility of your D holding the Colts to only 7 points with Manning.
by metal_militia on Sep 12, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
ya, they should have scored 17 yesterday. if u add in the manning 8.5 points that he adds and they score 26 points at best.we win.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
well if we're playing that what if game
then the Texans don’t get the ball on the Colts 15 twice. So then we win!
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ur right, what if is kinda stupid. get well soon manning.i want his ass back there gettin rocked anyways.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now to be serious
would I love to see the Texans drop 40 points on the colts sure, but I would gladly take a 34-7 win over anyone. There was no need to risk injuring anyone try run up the score in game we knew we won by the end of the second quarter.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Completely Agree
I could already hear the “ZOMG we scored zero points in the second half, they still only play one half!!!!!!” complaints coming before the game even ended. I do not get that train of thought, but then again most of the fans who say stuff like that don’t tend to be the easiest to understand I guess. Why give a division rival a reason to head hunt your players the next time you meet?
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care that we didn't score in the 2nd half. We didn't need to
We scored enough in the 1st half & the Colts didn’t score until the 4th quarter. I’ll take that every game. As long as it doesn’t look like the other team is making a comeback, it’s not a concern. The defense did their job & the Texans won the game. In the end, that’s all I care about
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
bandwagon fans are ridiculously stupid. I hope we lose the next two games.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
grrrrrrrrr...
Who are you and what have you done with Jordann?
/sllllooowly backs under bed
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
It's just fun to see people come and go
and most of them should go hide in a bunker and never come out.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
DreKeem!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
What has happened to him? He was posting like a madman, then *poof
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Some people...
I don’t get it. You realize that these same fans that wanted to see perfection for 4 quarters are only responding to the last decade of broken hearts right? How is that bandwagon? I was one of the fans that wanted to see a little something more in the 2nd half. And call ME bandwagon and I’ll murder ya and carve the Texans emblem on your chest, then skin ya and make a ball cap out of it. Teasing of course but i’m as die hard as anyone. I don’t want a reason to doubt. I’m tired of doubting and wondering “When will the Texans disappoint me…here it comes…HERE IT COMES…there, they did it again.” That’s not justification for running up the score though. Logically I get it. I understand why Kubiak did what he did. But the negative results, the interception and fumble, were very reminiscent of…well, the Texans. Yet another reason to fear that the Texans will break my heart yet again.
I know you understand, and my rambling could have been cut short long before now, but hold off on all of the “bandwagon” accusations. Remember which team we’re all rooting for. Let a winning culture be created in Houston and then start slinging the rightful bandwagon shit when those that haven’t been here suddenly appear as die hard Texans fans. :D
What I DON'T understand PW...
… is how a fan that has watched in misery for 10 years and that has SEEN miserable performance up close and personal, cannot acknowledge the significant difference in this team and sit back and enjoy such a total domination without chewing on the guy that helped assemble the team from a pile of scraps and with NO money for the first three years.
Kubiak MUST deliver this year… So far, he has… happy, happy, joy, joy. Period.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Sep 12, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, Dillo, how can you tell other fans how to be fans?
We are all fans in our own way. I am ecstatic right now. I see the faults, but it’s okay for now. Let the coaches do the worrying. They see the tape and they teach the players. I hope they fix those mistakes. For me, though, I’m enjoying this!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Sep 12, 2011 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My comment was no more telling people how to be fans...
…than the tone of the article.
People can choose to be miserable if they like.
And I can choose to disagree and voice that disagreement.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Nice spin...
but calling someone a “bandwagon” fan isn’t about being miserable. Should you define “bandwagon fan” I’m certain that you would not find the word “miserable” in it. I’m just saying bro, take offense if you like, couldn’t give a monkeys fart really. Still love ya though. /hugz :D
I'm not taking offense, PW...
…I’m as nervous as anyone…
As someone else pointed out we started strong last year too…
2-0 going into the Cowcraps game.
That game will be the Saints this year.
Still plenty to prove. I’m just savoring the over-all perceived improvement. You are welcome to experience the ride in any way you choose.
/hugs right back
/wag of the tail
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Yeah...
That was my thinking…I want to see how we respond in the Saints game. As long as they don’t get their asses handed to them I really don’t have a problem with a 2-1 record (and it’s stupid to look past Miami by the way….fans might, but the Texans won’t. Kubiak won’t let it happen.)…
Yeah, my theoretical schedule results...
…actually look pretty average to bleak through the front half of the season… We need to win the expected ones because I expect real tests from:
NO
Pitt
Balt
Atl
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
We'll see...
Atlanta and Shitsburgh looked like CRAP. And NO Defense didn’t look so hot either. I think we could win all of those games.
I'm discounting most of the first couple of week's games for evaluation purposes...
…because of the weirdness of the off-season. I think that the good teams will smooth their edges and play up to form by the time we get to them.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Hopefully not before we face them...
Our offense and Defense seems to be playing at a pretty high level already. Shit…did I just jinx us?
Exactly
Thx for clarifying your thoughts more thoroughly.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
As I said yesterday Dillo...
This is nothing more than the 5th pre-season game in my view. The Colts as they stand aren’t even close to competing. IF this team were to not progress I could see them easily going 0-16. I’m not going to dance for joy in beating such a crappy team. Could be that the Texans are that great, but I will hold off on that sort of optimism. I can’t help it man! I can’t allow myself to get too excited. This team has to prove to me that it’s for REAL before I will go down that road.
Yes, even with Manning, the Colts regularly go winless in preseason
This was just an extension of their preseason due to being Manninless and other circumstances….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Manninglessness was a factor...
The absence of Manning was definitely felt throughout the game.
I think if Manning hadn’t been absent that the game would have been more competitive for the full four quarters.
However, I think that Manning’s absence will be more of a factor when we play them next time.
Manning being absent that is….
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
its called blooding the army. u get the troops out there and let them get sum easy kills to get their confidence up and skills honed. boxers do it too.gives us time to get better at defense
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Why are you offended by the comment?
Are you a bandwagon fan? You seem like it because you’re responding towards my criticism directed at bandwagon fans. Did I mention your handle on my post? I think not.
There have been fans that went through thick and thin with this team. From the Crappersly era to what we have going on now. But most of the fans that are coming out of the woodwork, especially after fuck-stomping the Colts are criticizing the team for not running up the score. I never specifically mentioned that the people on these boards are the ones that I’m bitching about, i’m talking about bandwagon fans in general. The same ones that came out after the first 2 wins last season, and left after we got fuck-stomped by the Giants.
If you’re not one of them, then you’re not one of them.
So tell me Peckerwood, how would you justify running up the score in the second half after injuring your star wide receiver? Or how can you claim decent sportsmanship after running up the score against a team that’s already clearly been beaten?
We saw exactly what we needed in the second half where the team is up by 34-0 in the first game of the season. And if you didn’t think that the Texans playing ball-control to perfections isn’t something of an improvement, then I shall keep my opinions to myself and choose to converse with people that are worth conversing with.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Sep 12, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Also
Because I love y’all the way a man loves a cold beer on a hot Christmas morning….
I ventured to the Comicle to see if Pancakes was taking credit for Mario’s performance yesterday, and I made the horrible mistake of reading the comments there.
Don’t go. It did the equivalent to my brain of eating lead paint chips and chasing them with gasoline.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
bastard...
Telling me “don’t do it” is like throwing a pork chop at a fat kid. I’m gonna eat it.
Mmmmm... grilled with a little BBQ sauce...
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
I've been to the John Deere Open in Illinois and their specialty is pork chops sandwiches
It’s a real treat if you ever get up that way
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Pork Chop wrapped in bacon, dipped in beer batter & deep fried
Now we’re really talking
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Why tell you when I can show you?
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Sep 12, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Damn, that looks good
Just needs some bacon to be Epic Meal Time worthy
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
/crunches on apple
/whimpers
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
What did I tell you about those apples?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
/reading from script
“That they are delicious and healthy and full of fiber and vitamins while being low in calories and saturated fats…”
Oh no… that was my wife
YOU said…
Slather that bitch in butter, stuff it with cheddar cheese, brown sugar and cinnamon, wrap it in bacon, batter it in beer batter /chocolate chip waffle dough, deep fry it and then serve it with a variety of dipping sauces including: chocolate, ranch dressing, and queso…
…or something like that… I may have embellished while day-dreaming about it all weekend long. My bad.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Yes, one thing you need to remember
It’s not about how many years you live, it’s about how much you enjoyed the years you were here
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't get this big eatin' celery...
…and I hope to continue to enjoy the occasional “splurge”, so this place is a gold-mine of ideas.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Wait is this 1308???
If it is, I love that place. Great food there.
After discovering this place
I successfully weaned myself off of the only thing I read the Comical for, and only online at that. I haven’t ventured in in a few of weeks, and I don’t want a relapse.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Although Steph's blog is worthy of looks.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson
"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock
Never try to baptize a cat.
Steph and Lance for sure
Those two are teh awesome.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Sep 12, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
...or awkward discussions about the family tree / post
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Sep 12, 2011 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Even if I read Comicle stuff
I avoid the comments section, same for Yahoo, ESPN, and any other big site….I’ve been burnt by stupidity far too often.
"Lord, beer me strength."
I glanced at Pancake's sports page article and would you believe?
I don’t think I saw any mention of Mario Williams.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
local news media is just going to suck no matter where
The Arizona Republic is infuriating to me as a Diamondbacks fan.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
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Yeah
Especially if it’s still managed by the pre-Internet Old Guard. Ugh.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Old Fart Bastards!!!!
IBM Greenbar readin’- 80 column card punchin’ – JCL writing BASTARDS!!!
/looks in mirror
Oh… wait…
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Real programmers
write machine code and optimize instructions based on the position the drum will be in.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
oooo... nice
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Here, go chew on a bone
If you’ve never read this:
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I had not read that...
Fascinating… Thanks.
As someone who spent many hours trying to reverse-engineer other people’s code (albeit COBOL…) I sympathize with his struggles in trying to work out what Mel was doing.
At some point we discovered that “elegant” and “maintainable” were not necessarily synonymous…
Great read.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
What's even better..
All indications are that that is a true story.
Taken from Rixstep:
Mel Kaye is the principal author of many of the programming manuals of the Royal McBee Computer Corporation including the LPG-30. Ed Nather is a former professor of astronomy at the University of Austin Texas and former directory of the Whole Earth Telescope.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 12, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
rivals.com message boards
are of that type. Old people and the internet piss me off.
-Contributing Writer at The Crimson Quarry.
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I know! Right!?!
bastards…
bastards is what they are…
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
those are the kind of people that say stats are retarded and refuse to allow someone to claim
a rookie/freshman is going to be good until they’ve played at least one game. It floors me how many people out there say “we’ll just have to see” on a freshman all american (trending to my basketball side of the internet now).
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I got tired of Rivals when
Michigan fans were saying Tate Forcier was the next Joe Montana.
"Lord, beer me strength."
just can't help it
it is like reading the Comical. You know it’s going to be bad but it makes you feel smarter than everyone else so you read it anyway.
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you must be getting it mixed up with the WSJ....
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
no I mean the comments are so bad that it makes you feel like a genius
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Piss poor commentary at the bottom of Comicle articles
Is like a car wreck. Sure, we regret it later, but how can we look away?
by brightshinies on Sep 12, 2011 11:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Look! Look! The train's going to crash!
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http://www.battleredblog.com
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Am I the only one
Who has Miami winning tonight
@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd
by AllenOU on Sep 12, 2011 11:38 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
NOPEEEE!!!
Ive always had a random, illogical love for the fins… sooo go MIAMI!!!!
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
by Carter Liles on Sep 12, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Going for the Rex Grossman "Fuck It, I'm Going Deep" Award tonight, huh?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
yes i am
i was 13-1 on my pickem for the first 14 games, but the one i lost was also my survivor pool pick. SO FUCK YOU KANSAS CITY
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Wow...
Nice job…this has been a crazy week, I’m surprised anyone did that well.
Kansas City will be lucky to win 6 games this season
Team has looked awful since August…..fighting at camp, bad preseason, no Weis, and Ryan Fitzpatrick torches you for 4 TDs?
"Lord, beer me strength."
I hope so
because after their shellacking yesterday I have more confidence in penciling them in as a W for the Colts.
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Just found out they Lost Eric Berry for the year with a torn ACL.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Wow! I was about to take him in our FF draft when someone right in front of me took him before I could get my grubby hands on him
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I took him right before the game in my league...
And started him in place of Beason. Both went down with season-ending injuries in week one. This is why I don’t play fantasy footballs.
Man, that sux
I loved watching Berry play last year.
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With syrup.
I blew several picks
A couple of reaches, but I thought some of them were obvious – but no, they weren’t
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If Henne plays well.
They will win. But of course its Henne and I really don’t like him. Just way to inconsistent.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Great article.
I mean we killed em. Plain and simple. Turnovers will happen, but we still destroyed them.
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
LOVE the sack count tally
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Kerry Collins NFL Passer Rating as compared to his Total QBR per BSPN
NFL Passer Rating* – 82.3
Total QBR – 2.3
- - Does not account for sacks or fumbles
By the QBR, Collins was the worst QB yesterday
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
that's bull because Roethlisberger accounted for 5 turnovers yesterday
Collins may have been second worse but any QB that accounts for 5 turnovers is the worst.
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I think Rothlisberger was the 2nd worst
I think he was somewhere between 8-11 on the QBR scale
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 12, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
he was
but I’m just pointing out that the fact he wasn’t the worst shows that the metric is still flawed.
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Agree
Collins didn’t set the world on fire, but he still made some good throws and still has that damn good arm.
Rapelisburger poured gasoline on the joint, set it on fire, then pissed on it in a vain attempt to put it out. If he wasn’t the worst, the metric is broken.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Can someone tell me why...
everytime Collins targeted Reggie Wayne it looked like Karjax was covering him? And – everytime Collins targeted Pierre Garcon it looked like JJo was covering him? Was this a function of play calling, defensive scheme, or coaching strategy? Anyone?
As for the scoring in the game, it was very evident we had this game won at half-time and Kubiak still called a normal 3rd quarter for the most part. Agree 100% with this post.
I know!
I guess they considered Collie/Garcon the bigger threat…Kjax on Wayne was a mismatch.
And honestly...
I didn’t even know Collie played until my brother said “yeah, I saw him on the field.” He was shut out.
PFF
Has KJax with 4 total targets allowing 2 catches, which is about what I remembered. On the two incompletions, KJax had Wayne – dare I say (Dare! Dare!) – well covered.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
My guess
Some schemes have CBs playing a side of the field as opposed to always following a team’s #1 WR. It could be that or they felt like Garcon has better deep speed than Wayne, and we all know Jackson’s biggest con is supposedly deep speed.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Yeah Colts move their WR's around.
Kareem played on the offenses left the whole game just like last year. That’s why JJow was on Garcon on that deep pass and Kareem was on Wayne a lot it seemed. I can’t remember the corners switching sides though.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
good god... its a freakin script
“not to sound like a jerk…
but they should have scored at least 2 more touchdowns in the 2nd half. i know, they were up 34-0 at half, something i am extremely impressed with- and i saw that killer instinct of stepping on the throat and keeping it there in the 2nd quarter. but they should have added to the pain in the 2nd half. during the bal/pit game, bal went for 2 up 27-7. not saying we should have gone for 2, but i want to see the dagger put into the colts and any other team that we do this type of damage to. the texans want respect? run the score up whenever you can and damage the opposing team’s soul. until we actually have a playoff season, thats the only way to get respect- beat the living crap out of people. and they did a pretty decent job of it today."
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OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
by Carter Liles on Sep 12, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
*sigh*
It shames me that we have fans like this.
I predicted 38-16 in this game.
Not too far off but I was really hoping for 2 safeties in the 2nd half! :-) I’m very proud of our Texans and hope it continues next week in Miami.
FYI
I’m a dwarf. And I have a mentally handicapped brother. And I’m half black/Mexican/jew/Indian (both kinds) and white (Caucasian and Asian) . And gay. So almost anything you say will offend me and I will sue. So there.
Just throwing that out there so you guys will know to be nice to me always and never offend me.
by Peckerwood on Sep 12, 2011 12:20 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
So you're saying you're Jordann?
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 12, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
His cousin, yes.
Might be anyway, my mother was a hooker.
had lots of bastards...me included...
Oh yeah, I don’t have a father either.
Immaculate conception????
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I do believe you've cracked it, sir...
Kudos…
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Wait..
This isn’t green?
oh, but making it green may offend him :P
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions
One last thing to note
At least we didn’t hear anything about someone getting into Reliant Stadium with a taser. The same however could not be said at Metlife Stadium
http://deadspin.com/5839180/metlife-stadium-911-brawl-at-cowboysjets-game-includes-fan+on+fan-tasering
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
a-flipping-mazing
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
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Wait a second...
Women are like beer
The darker the better?
by TexansPride on Sep 12, 2011 1:49 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Maybe once opened
You gotta use em up quick or they go bad?
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the laugh!
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Shaun Cody
I just wanted to note that when he recovered that fumble he was in the Colts backfield!
Yeah, it surprised me too.
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
Yes, but if he hadn't been there...
37 other Texans would have been right there to hop on the fumble. Remember, you’re required by law to give a disclaimer after every positive mention of Cody.
Earl Mitchell probably would have run that back for a touchdown.
i think u missed the point...he was in THE BACKFIELD.
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Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
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And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Zing!
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Mario actually WAS right there to get it.
Cody just fell down first.
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ur right. watt coulda got it too prolly. he's sayin in order to be in a position to get the fumble recovery, he (cody) had to make a pretty good play to get back there first.
Im looking for divine and a lttle intervention
And birds dont fly without my permission
Im prolly in the sky, flyin with the fishes
Or maybe in the ocean, swimmin with the pigeons
See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne
And if you want problem Bit#h, i want the same thang
by F-BombTheJets on Sep 12, 2011 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, I agree.
I was just pointing out that Nash’s sarcastic comment wasn’t all that far-fetched.
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BS you just don't like it when others disagree with you
and they are right – Mario wasn’t there – Cody was…..get over it.
Goodness
You are truly the king of revisionist history.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 13, 2011 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
YAY!
Obvious troll is obvious!
Also, Mario WAS there. But, hey, the one play all day where Cody did something positive, he lucked out and fell on the ball ahead of a guy who had a great game. YOUR ARGUMENT IS VERY CONVINCING.
(Note: the all caps part above is sarcasm.)
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by MDC on Sep 13, 2011 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
'sNutty I tell ya'!
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Give credit where
credit is due – why all this OMG sentiment? It was after all a team effort for that fumble recovery. All of the D worked for it. Just like the Watt recovery on the next play.
Well I expected it
We won 34-7 and it still took them 47 minutes to even show Texans highlight’s on NFL Primetime. This morning all the talk was about what are the Colts going to do without Manning witch again I fully expected the only person that gave any credit to Houston was Eric Mangini oh and Jeff Saturday also said he didnt think even if Manning was back there it still woulnt of made a diffrence Kudos to you Saturday. Still would like to see more people give credit to our team but I know thats not going to happen till we beat teams like NO and Pitt.
Yep, just give a few more weeks and we'll see if your desire for more kudos is warranted
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Nearly everyone in the media has already dubbed the Texans the South champions.
But really this blowout was somewhat expected. Unless you were “that guy”.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Watching Skip Bayless makes excuses for Tony Uh-Oh always makes me laugh.
But yeah only guy who seemed to willing to give credit to the Texans this morning for kicking ass in all three phases of the game was Eric Mangini.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Skip Bayless pisses me off
Like Leonhard (I belive thats who pushed Witten out of bounds) dosent lift weights either. I mean C’mon dude I would like to see your sorry ass get out there and do better. What a dickweed.
Yeah he pretty called Leonhard a pushover.
But it was all in an effort to try and defend Romo. He’s a huge Cowboys homer and one of Romo’s staunchest defenders. Of course deflecting the fact that he fumbled on the 1 yard line.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
It was funny when Mangini was trying to give credit to the Texans for the Colts looking so bad
Skip sounded shocked the offense was able to operate so smoothly without Foster. He was sure the Texans offense would crumble without him.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I could have sworn he threw that pass to Revis
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 13, 2011 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Just a straight up stupid play.
Safety help on top ALONG with one of the top 2 CB defending also? Romo basically thought Revis was his receiver, not Dez Bryant. Boned headed play by Romo.
Hate to be a Homer but the way they played yesterday
I think we have a real legit chance of beating both NO and Pitt. Before this season started I was worried about the Miami game just because they dont have a win against us yet. But we destroy them next week.
Well if their defense plays like that I'll bump up our chances.
I still have us losing in NO but winning a close one at home over the Steelers.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
our chances incrase even further
seeing how Pitts played at Baltimore week 1. New Orleans imo is the first true test of our revamped D.
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/looks around to see who else noticed
“Hey, that picture caption is FUNNY!”
“Cheese eating surrender, Monkey…” Right?
What? Everybody else got the joke and moved on?
/awkward
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lulz
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 12, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Would triple rec this if I could
Once for the great article, which I agree with 100% BTW, and once each for The Monty Python and Archer links.
Triple win!
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With syrup.
Breakdown of the game by PFF:
Absurd stat:
Pressuring Collins was always going to be crucial for the Texans and they never let him settle. 3 sacks, 5 hits and 21 pressures were pivotal in their victory.
Collins dropped back 34 times, so… Yea. As I said, absurd.
Wow.
So that’d be what 86% of dropbacks were at worst pressured?
What I’m wondering is: how much talent is really on this defense? Aside from the obvious candidates, it might be more than we think. Also, now we can have an offense draft pick, right?
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As much as we thought, I'd reckon.
We’ve gone from being worst-in-the-league at three positions (CB, FS, WLB) and below average at three others (DT, DT, SS) to really only having two below-average players on defense (DT and CB2). We easily have more game-changing players than weaknesses now, and that’s a pretty good feeling.
by Nashmeister on Sep 12, 2011 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless there's a planetoid NT that Wade wants
Also I’d be very happy to draft Alshon Jeffrey or Dwight Jones from UNC
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 13, 2011 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions
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