Ask The Phinsider
Greetings from the Phinsider! It's that time of year again where our Miami Dolphins are getting prepared to face the bane of their NFL existence, your Houston Texans. After our Week 1 games, I'm sure that people have a bunch of questions for both teams.
So I thought I would drop by and give you guys a chance to ask the Dolphins fans any questions you may have before our two teams meet on Sunday. So if you want to know what the hell happened with our defense on Monday night, or what's going on with Chad Henne, or what my favorite breakfast cereal is (it's Lucky Charms), then here is your chance to do it.
I'm looking forward to your questions and either myself or some other Dolphins fans will be around to answer them as best we can. Here's to a good and injury free game!
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This is a surprise
Is there a game this Sunday? I hadn’t noticed. We’re kind of busy reveling in the win over the Colts. Okay. Wow! I wasn’t prepared for this.
Tell us about the Dolphins, please. I am ignorant.
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He meant...
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Tell us more about the defense
There was a recent discussion here about if your defense is really that bad, or if its more a result of Tom Brady. What are the opinions of the Miami faithful? Is your secondary not as good as thought? How do you think your ILBs will be against a more traditional running attack?
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i can't answer for the phinsider but,
Didn’t the Dolphins lose a CB as a result of the Patriots game? What is that all about and what will we see as a result of that?
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by Rip Jersey on Sep 14, 2011 8:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Benny Sapp
he gave up the 99 yard TD and a short TD both to Welker. Easy to see why he got cut.
Will Allen was resigned to replace him. He is a far superior player and a much more experienced vet. Overall and upgrade at the nickel.
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Vontae sat out for a bit with cramps,
but he came back in later. We did cut Benny Sapp yesterday, who was one of the 2 guys that got abused by Brady.
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Sean Smith was out a little bit with cramps as well.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
There was an awful lot of cramping league wide this week.
I’m chalking that up to the shortened off season for now.
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by Shake on Sep 14, 2011 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wait ... I thought Reggie made it through without cramps.
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But Vygina... well, he whines whether he's cramping or not
He’s just so unpredictable like a….
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No ... they were just out of shape and Brady ran them ragged in hurry up for 60 minutes ....
So embarrassing … you would think we would have a home field advantage in our home stadium….. We don’t have frozen tundra like other places at the end of the season, but those games in Miami at the beginning of the season are supposed to be where we can wear down other teams…
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Ok I'll take a stab at this
First, we have to understand how the Patriots offense works. Brady goes into the huddle and tentatively calls a play but the mainly calls a personnel formation. At the line of scrimmage Brady makes the read and 9 times out of 10 will find the best matchup and throw that way. This was happening all Monday night. When our corners were suffering from cramps and such, Brady immediately threw to our 4th sting corner covering Branch. The starting corners of Smith and Davis actually held up pretty well when on the wideouts (85 had 1 catch). The problem came in bad match-ups against slot receivers and TEs. Belicheat and Brady will immediately go after what they perceive to be the weakest point in the armor. This Pats O burned the Packers, Bears, Steelers, and Jets last year. Theses are all very good Ds, but this Patriots spread and chip away at you style is tough to counter.
Now onto the Dolphins D. This is actually a good defense. Brady was so afraid of our D-Line that he was constantly calling plays to the sidelines to quickly wear them out (it worked, but Nate Solder was holding Cam Wake all night and never got flagged). When playing against a more traditional offense they are pretty potent. Expect the blitz early and often. With walters out expect slanting coverage to AJ. Most faithful feel the D will bounce back. The secondary just got much better by brining back Will Allen. Most fans were shocked when he was cut and Benny Sapp was kept. ILBs are good against the run as is OLB Misi at setting the edge. Our run D is built around the NT Paul Soliai and DE Randy Starks. Not really afraid of the texans run game but Daniels and Casey, if used properly, could give the Fins problems.
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Expect a lot of OD and Thor
Yes, the Dolphins have a good D-line and they are tough to run on. Should be a good battle at the LOS. The Texans O-line is working pretty good right now and they are very good with assignments. I can’t point to any one player as being so outstanding and noteworthy, but they play well as a unit. I think Kubiak-Dennison will use the pass early to set up the run. And they might do that with TE and HB passes. One of their goals this season is to come out faster. I’m looking for them to push that game-plan.
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Which is a very scary prospect.
It appears after Monday night that we still haven’t solved our problems with stopping TEs or guys over the middle. I can definitely see Owen Daniels having a big game. But they may stick an extra guy back in coverage to try and counter that, but that may depend on whether Foster is going to be playing or not.
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It really won't matter if Foster plays or not
Our O-Line opens so many holes that Ben Tate & even Steve Slaton could be serviceable in Foster’s place. Remember the Texans had over 160 yards rushing last week without Foster
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Lets be honest though,
that yardage was against a terrible Colts D that is built primary for passing offenses.
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True
But we can pass or run pretty efficiently & we have plenty of weapons. Load up against the run, we’ll beat you with the long bomb to Andre. Double cover Andre, we have plenty of TEs to throw to & you can’t cover them all
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Even doubling AJ
with single coverage on the #2 WO, that still leaves 8 other defenders. This D has the confidence to leave the starting CBs almost by themselves. Not quite as simple as you make it seem to be.
Landry Jonesing
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Oh reeeeaaallyyy......
This D has the confidence to leave the starting CBs almost by themselves.
How’d that work out for you Monday?
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by TexansForever on Sep 14, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually pretty well
this guy by the name of Ochocinco had only one catch… What killed us as the TEs and some cramping to our starting CBs. The starting CBs preformed pretty well.
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And we have plenty of TEs that they probably can't cover
and Ochocinco is no Andre Johnson
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Ocho didn't see the field much
I didn’t see the whole game but I saw Branch lined up at wide a lot and was burning his defender constantly.
According to PFF
Just 18 snaps, which I think would be a 1/4 of all of NE’s offensive plays.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions
How many times was he actually targeted though?
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Three targets
One reception.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
bro
ocho cinco is not even in the same league as aj and yall know it and also if foster is back our run game is better than the patriots so pick you’re poison
get it while the gettins good!!!
Quite frankly
Our run game is better than the patriots even without foster.
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by Mookazoid on Sep 14, 2011 3:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't underestimate the Patriots running attack.
It’s very successful, but I think it’s also a product of wide open spaces made available by the passing attack.
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But he just hands the ball off.
Anyone can do that
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Thats not entirely genuine
Ocho only played 19 snaps and was thrown to 4 times and had 1 reception for 14 yards. He is still learning the offense. I recall Vontae being burned for 46 yds on the opening drive by the pats 5th receiver Matt Slater. Slater later dropped another deep bomb in the 4th quarter after he had his guy beat clean. Hernandez; a TE also burned smith for a deep pass.
Let's do the math
In a 3-4, you’re usually rushing 5, which leaves 6 to cover. We keep a TE in to help with protection, & that still leaves 4 receiving options. Double cover Andre, & that leaves you with 4 to cover. Keep one over the top to cover the deep pass & you have 3 on 3 man in man coverage. My bets are that those three would be the RB, Casey, & Owen Daniels. Daniels could be lined up in the slot & Casey could motion anywhere. Somewhere in there will be a mismatch that Schaub will exploit
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Dolphins run a hybrid 3-4
if rushing 5 it will be what we consider an all out blitz. Phins normally drop Cam Wake in as a DE and run a 4-3 scheme when they want to generate some pass rush. So even then that leaves 7 guys out in coverage.
Again this is just assuming man coverage most of the time. Phins use zones fairly often.
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Zone coverage? Why didn't you say so?
Andre & our TEs love tearing up zone coverage
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah as in man with safety zones over the top (ie. cover one, cover two, cover three)
All you guys just throw out everything and focus on one small thing.
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Unless your corners are named Revis, Asomugha, or Rodgers-Cromartie & your safeties are named Reed or Polamalu
We’re not scared of your secondary
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
if the texans coaches feel that way then i expect to see lots of passing then…
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No, you'll see lots of everything
Kubiak likes to establish the run
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
but thats what they're expecting...
So, like last year, I expect this to be our passing week.
Schaub’s line: 28-40 357 3-1*
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The Texans lit up some good Defense last year...
Unless you truly believe that the Fins are as solid as a Baltimore or NYJ (Defensively), don’t be stunned if they put 30 plus on you. All of this theoretical talk is just that. This guy covers that guy, this scheme beats this scheme, the fact is that we have 4 of the most difficult guys to cover in this league. Daniels, Foster, Casey and of course Andre. If all four of them are on the field at the same time, be concerned. Someone WILL be open and unless Schaub is playing like he did in the second half against Indy (in which the sense of urgency was completely snuffed out), I wouldn’t expect all of this talk about how good the Fins D is to be proved this coming Sunday.
The ONLY question is whether or not the Texans D can stop the Dolphins offense. The Texans will score, that’s what they do. There offense was built to crush any defensive scheme. There are just too many weapons there.
With Bush back there almost exclusively, I think the Fins will be in for a long day. The Texans will overpower the Fins in every aspect of the game.
Teams with good RB’s are the ones that scare me. Those will be some tough games to pull out. The Dolphins though, no. Not for a second.
by Peckerwood on Sep 14, 2011 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Foster is a good receiver?
Never heard that before.
Also, how good is Casey? Due to lack of stats, i’d have to say that he’s very athletic but raw.
This team only has three established receivers: Johnson, Daniels and Walter. And I think Walter is going to be out this game. That leaves two guys.
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Foster is usually the #3 receiving option behind Andre & Daniels
But Casey may get more targets as the season progresses
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by The Night Owl on Sep 17, 2011 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Foster is a great receiver.
He was second in catches and first in receiving yards among NFL running backs last season. Overlooking him as a legitimate receiving threat would be an enormous mistake.
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I personally think we are better than the Jets defensively...
We have a pass rush … and they don’t… Revis is overrated by the loud mouth and we have proven time and time again on the phinsider that while everyone says he is left one on one to cover the other team’s number 1 receiver that rarely ever happens. David Harris is a big mouth, but he isn’t really that good at the game of football. Both Karlos Dansby and Kevin Burnett are better than he is. Our D-line is the deepest in the entire NFL, which is one of the reasons that Brady went to the no huddle in the first place. If you do not run hurry up against us the whole game, do not expect to get the same result the Patriots got. If you guys come into this game expecting us to be a weak defense and expecting us not to be able to cover TEs you might get shocked.
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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 6:51 AM CDT up reply actions
The last time Sean Smith covered Andre Johnson...
It was Smith’s rookie season. Once they moved him to cover Andre, Andre had 3 catches for 40 yards. If you told me he could replicate those numbers on the best WR in the league.. I would take that every single time.
We have had a little bit of miscommunication so far because we brought in a new ILB to compliment Karlos Dansby this year. Both Dansby and Burnett are known for their ability to cover TEs. I think the combination of the hurry up offense along with the lack of time playing together caused the Patriots to be able to take advantage of them a bit…. but don’t just expect that they are dumb enough to let that happen again this week.
You can bet that the defense that you saw on MNF will be nothing like the defense that you will see this week. A really really good defense was embarrassed last week at home on MNF. Expect them to come out with a desire to show just how good they can be this week. Do not expect you will run all over us, pass all over us… You might be disapointed.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 6:58 AM CDT up reply actions
well score on them too lol i think 27 on the jets last year and 30 on the ravens how many points did we put up on oakland??? the way i see it were gonna score regardless the real question is are they gonna score j jo on marshall is the pivotal matchup i believe
get it while the gettins good!!!
23 on San Diego...
And remember, this is with a very crappy Defense. Constantly playing from behind will make chokers out of anyone. You can’t win them all, and in the NFL, that’s a sin. A late pick and you’re labeled. A goal line fumble, and you’re labeled. Rightly so? Perhaps…but there has to be something said about them being under huge amounts of pressure to score on every stinking possession. And yes, I realize that every team tries to score on every possession. But do they HAVE to score? Do they have ANY confidence that their own Defense can pull out a stop to even things out? The Texans didn’t have that. Constant pressure to score is what the Texans had. Given the likelihood of the Texans D being improved…I expect a much more relaxed Matt Schaub behind center. And that bodes trouble for any team they face.
Also not to mention, if Freeney & Mathis couldn't do much against our O-Line
What makes you think Wake can get pressure on Schaub?
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Wake has lots of help on the D-Line. The interior of the Dolphins D line is better than the Colts DTs. The other D-linemen are capable of getting to the QB as well. Not saying that it will be a sack fest, but they are capable of getting to the QB.
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And that's where the PA Rollout comes in handy
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the rollouts may be limited
Obviously freeing up Foster to cutback more, but I can’t see another team just letting Schaub have that much time.
I’d take my chances v. the run and go after the PA rollout if I were playing us.
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Taylor went down with an injury Sunday
Was it serious or will he be ready to go this week? If he’s out then I’d say your edge pass rush is significantly weaker.
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Jason Taylor will be playing.
He actually made it back out on the field later in the game for a couple more plays. But they kept him out most of it as a precaution. But from what we are hearing is that it was nothing serious and he will be good to go on Sunday.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Uuuhhhh,
when did he call a game vs Houston practice? I don’t recall him ever saying that.
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Taylor isn't what he used to be
He’s just not a big difference maker at this point in his career.
by OldJetsFanatic on Sep 15, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
not 8 guys left to cover though
a corner and a safety on Andre, another corner on Jacoby Jones, 3 down linemen and 2 pass rushing linebackers, another linebacker to cover the running back out of the backfield. That leaves you with 1 safety and 1 linebacker left. Can your safety cover Owen Daniels? Can your remaining linebacker cover James Casey? Its kinda death by a thousand stabs. Andre draws attention down the field and you are vulnerable to the 10 yard hitch over the middle to Daniels or the 5 yard out to Casey. Besides Andre has been known to beat a double team to the ball on occasion……
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
please refer to my comment above
I know you guys are new to the 3-4 but you dont always rush the D-line and the 2 OLBs. In the case that we do, you are right, but we rarely blitz like that.
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Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
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Then that means Schaub will have a lot of time to throw & your defense can't cover for that long
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow dude
every single one of your comments is just that the Phins can do nothing and the Texans will always get the perfect play call and blocking assignments.
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Well, they didn't show much against New England's offense
How am I supposed to take them seriously? They allowed over 600 yards
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
The Fins had a top 10 defense last season
I think there’s plenty of reason to believe it’s a solid defense.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, & we had an absolutely craptacular defense last year
Yet I don’t remember anyone going for over 600 total yards on us
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
that’s worth at least 3000 yards against a real QB.
by Bobbythegreat on Sep 14, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
I know it was bad.
that should have never happened.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
not totally bad
we got them thinking Tebow is the future, as long as they think that the Broncos will never be a contender. Hell the fans are still chanting for him to play. Is his popularity religion related?
I think it's largely due to his play in college.
1st round QB who won a ton of games in the SEC and won championships.
They got a taste of him last year and now want to see him full time. He’s not the first or last QB to have excessive hype.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
But we don't have the same defense this year
& apparently neither do the Dolphins
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
This QB is considered the next great superstar in the NFL & will lead his team to a division title
Who is Cam Newton, Alex?
Correct!!
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
OK ... let me clarify....
The Pats O-line was given a free pass to hold almost the whole game last week. With the best QB in the league out, it stands to reason that they don’t want to see the 2nd best QB in the league go down also. I am just throwing things out there because if you go back and watch the broadcast Chucky mentions how good Nate Solder (the rookie) is doing against Cam Wake. In every single play Solder has handfuls of jersey, or is tackling Wake.
While the Patriots and Tom Brady have the entire league under their spell, the Texans do not. Do not expect to have the refs allowing the things that went on last week to stand this week.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions
One guy saw Solde robviously holding Wake at least 7 times.
and he still got a sack.
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I understand you could rush only 4
but you guys yourself said you gave Brady all day to throw because of this lack of pressure. I think our oline is arguably better than NEs, so I think it is plausible you will have to send more guys to get pressure on Schaub.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Yes, the Patriots O-line was playing without some starters
And, they suffered an injury during the game and still were able to block.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
There were a lot of holding calls
that were not called
and since we only have 1 true pass rusher negating/cheating him really negates our pass rush. Our D-line was just not prepared for the speed of the new england defense, but at a slower pace they are as good as anyone.
Aaron Hernandez and da gronk are going to be the best 2 tight ends we see all season
Owen Daniels is very good but not as good as those 2.
It was honestly an outlier of a game and Schaub and company aren’t going to put up those numbers, it’s just not going to happen.
The defense will (this being the worst case scenario) play a much better game (a much better game being like 400 yards as opposed to 600)
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Hold up there....
Owen Daniels pre-injury > any TE out there (blatant homerism warning, but I don’t think I’m off by that much)
Owen Daniels post injury < than most TE’s
Owen Daniels of 2011 = Owen Daniels pre-injury.
Again, pick your poison….double team AJ and you still have to account for Foster, Casey, and OD and possibly JJ….single cover AJ and he will flat out pwn just about any CB in the league.
Just my $.02
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Where are you guys getting all this rushing five all the time stuff?
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because they couldnt get pressure on Brady as it was
So how will they get through our oline, which I consider better than NEs, with 3 or 4?
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I just mean in general
3-4 does not automatically mean that a team is rushing 5. Most 3-4’s will “normally” send a 4 man rush just like a 3-4. You just don’t know where the fourth one was coming from (unless you are playing us because you know it will be Mario 95% of the time)
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by papabear on Sep 14, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I welcome 4 rushers
Matt can literally pitch a tent in the pocket with only 4 rushers.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
suck balls might be a little strong
he did struggle with speed rushers though. Wake could give him problems. If the run game works(i think it will) we could use the play action and bootleg to help slow down the pass rush like we did against the Colts (assuming we can stay out of third and long)
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Suck balls might be a little strong.
You’re right. Sucking balls takes longer than it took for Winston to give up those sacks.
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Classic case of a handful of bad plays sticking out
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Winston can struggle against speed guys, but overall still had a solid year. Just maybe not as dominant as we thought he would be.
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Wake, though is very disruptive.
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I wouldn't judge Miami's D on one game
Miami still returned 10 of 11 starters (1 starter was hurt last week and a few were hurt throughout the game) and it was a top 10 defense last year.
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And we're not even mentioning Jacoby here...
If Jacoby breaks loose of the Corner on a deep route now the safety has to come over to assist or risk a long completion. He’s usually just a distraction though :D Too many weapons, Fins fans can try to comfort themselves with all of their schemes and this guy covering that guy, and this guy being damn good and getting pressure and blah blah blah, but I promise you, the Texans have lit up better defenses. Console yourselves all you like, but it’s gonna be ugly come Sunday at 3 pm.
Well, okay
What about the Dolphins D? It is in transition, if you ask me. They cut a CB and brought in a new CB who wasn’t even playing. Are they going to field that guy this weekend? If they do, I would say that is a place for the Texans to exploit this week.
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This D is not in transition
Will Allen (the new CB) has been with the team for 3 years (minimum, may be more, dont really remember right now). He was with the team all preseason and was off the roster for about a week. He is familiar with the D and shouldn’t miss a beat. He will see time at nickel corner. Will Allen is an experienced vet and has been one of the better nickel corners the last couple of years.
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I know you guys think your d is good, but you gave up OVER SIX HUNDRED YARDS of offense.
It may have been an aberration, but it certainly does not point to the D being “good”.
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by TexansForever on Sep 14, 2011 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
The only thing that I will point out
is that a majority of those yards came against our 3rd and 4th corners, plus 99 yards was on the 1 play where Welker, for some ungodly reason, was matched up in single coverage with a safety. One of those 2 corners that got torched has been released and was replaced with Will Allen, a vet who has been a very good corner for many years for us.
Will that help or fix the problem? I can’t say for sure. I hope so, because if it doesn’t that means we are in for some big trouble if either Davis or Smith get hurt.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't expect the Phins to give up that kind of yardage again.
I do think that perhaps the fans have overrated the defense a bit.
The 99 yard thing I am willing to toss out because how often does THAT happen, but that still puts us over 500 yards of offense.
Either way, I expect the Phins D to play better on Sunday. Should be a great game.
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by TexansForever on Sep 14, 2011 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
True, I will give you that.
Now, ok, I can see where we may have overrated the D a little bit, but we had the 6th overall defense last year, and kept almost all of our starters. We had reason to be confident in our defense. Did we let it go to our head a little bit? Maybe, but we didn’t see anything during the preseason either that made us think there would be a drop off in production.
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One game doesn't define a unit
Otherwise we could’ve said the Houston offense wasn’t very good because of how they performed at Tennessee last year.
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I feel the dolphins do have a good d but a top 10 d vs a top 10 o its gonna be a good matchup but the texans o is more balanced than the pats shaub aint no brady but welker aint no johnson and ellis aint no foster I think the telling match up will be the phins o vs our d cus were gonna put up points can yall keep up
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oh you forgot the "no capitalization"...
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Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 14, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Look at what Derrick Ward's production last year behind the same line
Derrick Ward’s nickname around here is the Glacier…and he still averaged 6.3 YPC last year spelling Foster. Tate is a much more explosive runner than Ward is and the fact he handled his pass blocking duties well last week means he’s likely to see carries this week.
Foster’s vision, patience, and explosiveness just takes our running game from very good to scary good.
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by papabear on Sep 14, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
too much stock is put into Foster imo
Foster, Ward, Tate, it doesn’t really matter, the work is all done by the oline and the back makes his one cut and goes. The backs are fairly interchangeable imo so if Foster sits there won’t be a change to the running game.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Right, it shouldn't change
I wonder how much we’ll see Slaton this week. I still think they would like to trade him, so I can see him getting some time on the field and be productive, then coming out. Too much time gives him opportunity to lose trade value, IMO, twisted however it is.
But, Foster and Tate should dominate. Ward, I think is out for the week. But, adding Foster this week will be sweet.
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trippin
bro you’re trippin if foster would have carried last week he would have put up ridiculous numbers tate is good but foster is an all pro wait till he gets in the game you will see the differance the o line is great but foster is a special talent by the end of the year he will be regarded as the best back in the game and the most complete
get it while the gettins good!!!
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Lol well played sir
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by JLeeNino on Sep 14, 2011 1:39 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I think its rather
the opposite. The running game success is built around our offensive line. Foster is talented but the drop off to Ward and Tate is not that great imo. Its all about vision, they just have to see the hole and make their cut. I’m not gonna get over excited after one season and say he’s a special talent. A special talent is AP who can do it season after season regardless of the passing game. So I’ll wait to see how Foster does this year.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
I do think there is a drop off
They all fit the system very well though. Ward reads his blocks well and runs hard, but he’s not scaring anyone with his raw athletic ability. Even with that he still averaged 6+ yards per carry, so your point about the line is correct. Foster is a class above those guys for now though (need to see more from Tate).
Like I said earlier, our running game without Foster is still very good. With him it can be scary.
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I still contend
that Wards long runs are the product of great blocking by our WRs last year, based on the eye test at least
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IMO
I say from what I’ve seen so far, Foster and Tate are on the same level and Ward and Slaton a level a little below them. Even so, there should only be a couple of teams in the league who can consistently stop our run game.
Tate has a long way to go to be on the same level as the NFL rushing champ
He looks good so far but we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves
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Ok I'll give you that.
I’m speaking strictly based on his ONE game as a 100+ yard per game rusher. What was Arian’s per game rushing average last year? A little over 100 yards per game? That’s why “right now” I think they are they same caliber backs for our offense.
You can say he is as good as or better than Bush
Since they share the same number of 100 yd games
But that would be insulting Tate
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 14, 2011 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions
After one game against the same Colts defense on opening day last year
Foster’s rushing average was 231 yards
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Ok I'll put it another way IMO.
To me it looks like Foster and Tate both have excellent vision. Foster is more elusive and Tate has more power. On the 2nd level Slaton is a speed demon with good hands (catching-wise) but has a rough history of coughing up the ball. Ward has sub-standard vision but a lot of strength. I’ve seen him hit a 2-inch hole when he could have cut outside for at least 5 yards before being touched. I’ve also seen him move a pile 3 yards. We will need to see a lot more from Tate to see if I’m right about him but, barring injuries, I think he’ll have a very successful career. However, if Foster continues to perform like he did last year, Tate’s career performance will be with another team for the most part – but we could get quality trades/draft picks for him.
The drop-off against Indy is minor, sure.
The difference with Foster is that he has the vision to find the holes (which are few and far between) against teams like Baltimore and New York. Miami, by all accounts, should have a pretty beefy run defense. It’s games like that when you need somebody who can grind out tough yards. Tate has big play potential, but I doubt he’s as good as Foster at eliminating those negative and no-gain plays.
sadly
there is no basis for comparison as Foster is the only one to have run behind a fully healthy offensive line for opponents such as who you mentioned. I still contention that our blocking system is the major factor.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Agree about Foster's vision
His elusiveness is amazing as well. But from what I see, both Ward and Tate are more capable of “moving the pile”. Just a little different style of running.
I think Tate just needs to settle in.
Towards the end of the game Sunday I noticed he seemed to be finding the seams better.
Just my $.02
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I dunno if we have Hernandez and Grok ability
but we have 4 quality pass catching TEs in Daniels, Dreessen, Casey, and Graham. Since Casey is playing fullback, we always have at least 2 pass catching TEs in the game.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Yep, motioning Casey to the line has to be giving opposing Ds fits right now!
How do you play that except to assign a S to him, and now that opens it up for someone else to find a seam and break away.
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I think Dreesen will get in the act as well
Maybe it’s time to break out that 3TE Offense that we’ve been talking about
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Absolutely, not enough space here to describe all the Texans options
Heck, with Walter down for the week, I’m pushing to see more Garrett Graham! I would like to see them line all the TEs up, no joke! They can all catch passes! The MNF game showed the Dolphins might have a weakness there. I say let’s exploit it.
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3 TE offense is already being used if you think about it
We saw against Indy OD and Dreessen on the field together, and since Casey is at fullback, its effectively 3 TEs in the game quite a bit.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
We haven't seen the overstacked 3TE set with Andre on the weakside yet
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Shudders in delight at this vision.
And I’m sure opposing DC’s are shuddering in terror at the same vision. lulz
Just my $.02
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If not “afraid” of the Texans’ run game, you should probably go ahead and give it consideration.
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by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions
This remains to be seen. Without our leader on D, it might have taken a step backward until someone takes on the role.
Now onto the Dolphins D. This is actually a good defense.
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Well, here's my take.
I don’t necessarily think that our D is as bad as it seemed on Monday. The biggest part of the fiasco was the fact that we could generate no pass rush at all. And as you guys have seen often with Manning, if you give a QB the calibre of Tom Brady 6-8 seconds in the pocket to throw (which he had almost all night), he will just pick you apart. Our starting corners, Vontae Davis and Sean Smith, played really well and kept their guys, Ochocinco and Deion Branch, pretty quiet. Branch got a few catches when Davis sat out some plays with cramps, but mostly Brady picked on Nolan Carrol and Benny Sapp, who mercifully got released, all night.
Another big factor was that Brady was using a no huddle and not giving our guys time to substitute, and it wore them down. They showed that they were obviously not prepared fror that and it came back to bite them. And I think one of the biggest factors was that they seemed to be stunned that they could not get any kind of pressure on Brady at all and they didn’t know what to do.
Overall, I think they will have a better showing when they are not going up against one of the best teams in the league with one of the best passing games, but they also aren’t going to get a break this week going against Houston’s high powered offense. I would expect to see one of our starting corners stuck on Andre Johnson all game, with the other one or Will Allen following Owen Daniels around.
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You do realize that the Texans try to get to the line quickly & snap the ball most of the time with 15 seconds or so still left on the play clock
So if Brady was tiring you them out, expect more of the same from Schaub & the Texans
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions
This is true
I heard Winston talking about just that point yesterday on the radio. The play comes to the huddle and it’s called right away. They break and lineup and snap it with time on the clock. That is there “system,” you are correct.
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...Schaub is good and all
but did you just really compare him and the Texans to Brady and the Pats?…
No team in the league is capable of running a Pats style O that effectively. The texans O is far more traditional so even in a hurry up the Phins will keep up. You somehow assume that the fins cant play hurry up d or play against a 2 minute drill, fatal mistake.
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So, you're saying because the Texans are not the Patriots, then checkmate Dolphins?
I don’t know about that. I would say the Dolphins haven’t proven anything, yet, is what I would say. They have good players and good system, good coaches, but they didn’t show last Monday night. What is it about them that you think they will do differently? Granted, Schaub is not Brady. Their games are totally different. The Texans do things to give Schaub different angles and protection with rollouts and play-action. Personally, I think this opens it up better for Schaub. What can the Dolphins do on D to counteract that? I haven’t seen any D that can counteract that, yet.
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Where did I ever make that claim?
What I said is that do not assume the Texans can do exactly what Brady and the Pats can do.
I would say the Dolphins haven’t proven anything, yet, is what I would say
And beating on a colts team without Peyton proves something for the Texans?
What can the Dolphins do on D to counteract that? I haven’t seen any D that can counteract that, yet./blockquote>
By this logic, the Texans will go undefeated as long as Schaub is QB…
It seems to me that you are guilty of the very thing you are accusing me of. What I said is that you cannot expect similar results from different teams.
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Not sure what point you are trying to make
My statement about the Dolphins not proving anything yet; are you refuting that? Not sure. You make a great spectacle reply post with the use of quote-blocks, though. Kudos to you for that!
And, you definitely put words into my mouth by putting your statement in with my quote, saying that the Texans will go undefeated with Schaub as QB.
Yes, it seems that you have regressed this conversation from what seemed like an intelligent conversation to a certain level of immaturity here.
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last attempt here because there is no point arguing with someone that cannot reason
The point I am making is that you can make no assumptions after one week.
You make the claim that the dolphins haven’t proven anything, which I agree with, but conversely, the texans haven’t proven anything after one week either.
You then ask why I believe differently. Well, even after two blow out losses to the Pats last year we still posted the number 6 overall D in the league. This is not subjective opinion but statistical fact. Seeing how the D is still intact it is safe to assume that they should still be within the range of the better defenses in the league.
I never put words in your mouth but read exactly what you wrote. You then asked what the Dolphins D could do to counteract the Texans and Schaub and that you have yet to see a D that can counteract that. Well you said that no D has been able to counter the Texans, ergo, the offense cannot be stopped. If the offense cannot be stopped, they will score lots of points and as the old adage goes, the easiest way to win is to score more points than the other guy.
Then you attempt to attack my maturity and try to insult me for a typographical error which in itself seems immature.
Anything you would like me to clear up?
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Yes
I stand by my previous comments. I think your style of reply is immature and confrontational and you are taking this all to personally.
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You insult me by calling me immature and mocking me so therefore i'm confrontational?
I still go back and answer each one of your questions but I’m wrong. You then just dismiss all my remarks and just say you are right.
wow man i have tried to be nice but you are making a good claim of being a total ass
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I'm reading your comments to other posters and more of the same
Wow dude. Every single one of your comments is just that the Phins can do nothing and the Texans will always get the perfect play call and blocking assignments.
Why are you here?
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Phin, your willingness to come on here and offer an opponent's perspective is appreciated.
It will be an interesting game to see played out on Sunday.
From your comments, I think that you, like the rest of the NFL underestimate the Texan’s offense and (with GOOD reason) the Texan’s defense.
We’ve played the Manningless Colts and this week we’ll play the Manningless Phins and I fully expect the same outcome, but that is why they play the games.
As you say, here’s hoping for no injuries.
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by DilloTex on Sep 14, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I respect the hell out of the Texans O
a team that can pass and run that effectively in the NFL today is a rarity. Funny enough, that 2009 yeah the fins had the same problem, O was good but D terrible. I dont know if you recall the Phins Texans games specifically but the texans came out scoring like crazy. The Dolphins O actually mounted a comeback in the 4th quarter that fell short. I can totally understand the frustration of a great team that gets let down on one side of the ball.
I also need to warn that there may be some growing pains on the D with this new system. In the Jets preseason game, they went right after Mario Williams and he looked confused and out of position. I think he will pick up the position just fine but it will take some time. Also the lack of a classic NT is a pretty severe hit to a 3-4 team.
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I agree that there will be growing pains on defense,
but there was one play where Mario Williams looked out of position during the Jets game, and that was on a play when he had outside contain and forced the running back inside. I’ll admit that he’s looked tentative (specifically, it looks like he takes a stutter step once the ball is snapped), but he really hasn’t looked out of place.
As for the NT issue, I agree, sort of. We’ve heard repeatedly from Wade Phillips that he doesn’t need a planetoid NT for this defense to work. I still think this defense would be better with a big NT, but it’s not required. My understanding is that a classic NT is a pretty severe hit to a “classic” 3-4 team. Wade runs a modified 3-4 that mitigates the need for a big NT.
Not trying to be argumentative for the sake of being argumentative, so I apologize if that’s how this post comes across.
by Tailgate Andy on Sep 14, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions
A 3-4 takes on a ton of different looks
and it is true that lots of 3-4 teams get around without a classic NT, look at the Cowgirls. For example, on pass rushing downs the phins take out the NT and put in a DE. There are ways of making due without them, but having those big space eaters is a pretty nice commodity sometimes.
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Wade Phillips has promoted that his NT needs to be able to shoot the gaps
He doesn’t need a 2 gap NT. We repeat that around here a lot….but plenty of us don’t really buy it. Like the meth head who tells himself he doesn’t really have a problem, but deep down we know we’re probably lying to ourselves.
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64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
I think that's basically where I'm at.
I’m of the opinion that this D would be better with a big NT, but I’m so starved for good defensive play, that at this point, I’ll believe anything Wade Phillips tells me.
by Tailgate Andy on Sep 14, 2011 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Except that our O, unlike Indy's, isn't built around Manning.
Your D will have a much harder time defending our O. Especially with Thomas back. He gives us the ability to run up the middle.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Really?
Do we need to act like this?
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shouldn't be this way. Not sure why that guy is here.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Sorry, Rip
Not picking on you. I saw two of the assholiest comments I’ve ever seen on this blog this morning (they are gone, now), and, as when the kids fight, in the aftermath, I want a little peace. Me projecting my desires.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
I feel like it is going to end up
just like after the Kansas city game last year.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
I'm still waiting on that guy to show back up
after the league didn’t issue a letter saying that the one deep Andre catch was OPI. I have been holding my breath for a really long time now.
by Bobbythegreat on Sep 14, 2011 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions
You're not dead yet!
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Wow...
I saw two of the assholiest comments I’ve ever seen on this blog this morning
THAT is a statement… Now the curiosity is going to drive me nuts…
You are not a nice man…
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Lo siento mucho
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
No prob... It's good to be protected from oneself at times.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
well if you speak in spanish
Then I’m going to speak in french…and you have no way to stop that
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
Can he not come and share thoughts?
or are you the one who is IMMATURE and can’t have a conversation with an opponent?
by SpaceCityFan on Sep 14, 2011 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is that directed at me?
sorry these comment threads get crazy long and hard to follow
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
no
he’s backing up your right to come here and share your thoughts. Pretty sure BFD was doing the same thing.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
lol thanks
it just gets dizzying looking at all these stacked comments. I had no idea what that was in response to.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
click on the "up" icon to see direct parent in hierarchy
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
/spins propeller on beanie
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Thank You!
I never knew about that Up button. It’s like it was invisible to me until you said that and then all of a sudden it appeared! Seriously, I appreciate that because I’ve struggled at times in threads like these to know what a comment was in response to.
by OldJetsFanatic on Sep 15, 2011 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions
It took someone else mentioning it for me to see it as well...
…and my reaction was the same as yours… Pay it forward.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Deal!
And Go Texans! I hope you crush the life out of the Dolphins this weekend!
by OldJetsFanatic on Sep 15, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Look
If you took anything I said as attempting to insult you, I apologize. It was never intended to do so. The reason I left was because I was sitting in the middle of class, trust me I would have preferred to continue to talk about football.
Referring to the block quote comment that sparked all this, that was not an attack or me getting angry. I am a firm believer in the Socratic method, so when I am having a discussion or debate I pose questions in order to draw out the logic behind an argument, this is in fact one of the most fundamental techniques of Socratic reasoning. So when I presented those questions it was to show what conclusions you could draw. In my subsequent post (that was deleted for some arbitrary belief that some though it uncivil), I just stated that in expanding what you had said what logical conclusions could be drawn. I even started that post with my thesis that no assumptions could be made after only one week.
In regards to the comment to Night Owl, that was made in frustration that he continued to believe a 3-4 Defense requires you to rush 5. It is very difficult to discuss something with someone when the two understandings are very different. After repeated attempts to clarify that it I just ended in in that comment.
To the mod below (I believe it is bigfatdrunk) I did not intend to insult anyone here or cause trouble. I believe that if you go back and look at my comments objectively, you can see that they are not just rants but an actual though out argument. Now in calling you a total ass, yes that was me upset. You called me immature and confrontational when I was presenting an argument in my preferred style. I took that comment as someone that simply could not be reasoned with and even entitled my comment to that effect.
Again, if you misunderstood my discussion style, I’m sorry. I am simply here to discuss two football teams, something I do on most of the other sites without incident. I hope you can see my point on this and understand that there was no ill will but maybe just a misunderstanding in the development of a debate.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
That's fine. Thank you for the explanation and apology.
I hope you stay around and discuss that game. There are a lot of great conversationalists here.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
scoring points was never the problem
stopping the other guy from scoring was always our problem. Will Henne freeze up in the red zone under Wade’s blitz scheme? Throwing for 400+ yards is improvement for him, but he clammed up in the red zone when he needed to make the throw.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
keep in mind
The Texans are 5-0 against Miami. Our offense may not be Brady’s, but it been more than enough the last 5 games running.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
I know that
and most of miami does as well. The problem is that it has been 2 years since these teams have played and a lot of things have changed for both teams since then.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
We played in 2009
I agree things change which is why I had questions about your defense, because our offense is much the same as 2009, just with a better running game.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
You meant to say
… just with a running game.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 14, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
that’s a statistic that is completely meaningless to this game. What happened in a game last season is a pretty poor indicator of what will happen the next year with the turnover most NFL teams see. I could care less what happened when these two teams played years ago.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
most teams turnover 10-15% of their roster.
A team that is rebuilding does more.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Phinatics
the problem with your retort was, We know exactly what our offense can do. We have the exact same guys starting this year as we did last year minus Vonta who was replaced by a serious back field threat and good blocker in his own right James “THoR” Casey. Our Offense is one of the most balanced, and scariest to hit the field in a VERY LONG TIME! The patriots run game is not even close the the Texans, and we have as many if not more receiving threats than the Patriots. I personally believe we have a better offense than NE. My perfect end to the season will be a NE Texans Playoff game in a war of attrition.
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
The only difference between our offense & the Pats
The Pats have no qualms about running up the score
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, Brady is elite and Schaub has yet to reach that level
Schaub has elite players around him, though. The styles differ. Brady literally dictates games. Schaub, I would say, runs the offense, but always stays within it. Brady goes way outside the box. When Brady is on it is scary what he can do.
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Basically if the Texans get a big enough lead, they'll just try to run the clock out
Which is why we only won by 27 points instead of 51
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Personally, I think that's the smarter method
I think there’s a lot of danger in leaving stars in the game when you’ve put one away. Of course, being a Jets fan we are rarely in that situation as start every game sodamn slow!
by OldJetsFanatic on Sep 15, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I dont doubt the Texans O
I am probably one of a few people that knows who James Casey is. I said that in my first comment. That hybrid FB/TE combo that is coming up now is dangerous.
Now a better O than NE? That I very highly debatable, and this isn’t a slight against the Texans, but just tons of respect for NE. I agree that all the Texans players are more talented than the NE roster but talent alone isn’t enough. Bill Belicheat gets production out of everyone. Its not skill players that make NE dangerous, it is that fact that they use all of their players to their maximum potential that is scary.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
That, and he has a ton of gamefilm on everybody

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Now THAT'S funny
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
by Christopher H on Sep 14, 2011 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I would buy that shirt... rec'd
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Texans ranked #2 behind NE in overall offense effectiveness
according to Football Outsiders last year. It’s a tough start for Miami, you’ll see possibly the two best offenses in the NFL your first two weeks.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
But at the same time
They get it done early and can improve their Defense for the rest of the year, and they get to play NE one more time.
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
I actually did my own studying for it...
And found Houston as #2. Not to be too biased, but I preferred mine to FBO because it eliminated bias from the performance of defense and special teams.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Here is the link too...
http://www.thephinsider.com/2011/8/30/2393412/offensive-production-ratings
Not surprisingly, Houston was #2 behind New England.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Yes, but what about if you are missing Walter?
(Texans fan went to the Phinsider and told us he was going to be out)
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Walter may be the #2 WR, but he's really the #4 receiving option
Be prepared to see more TEs or more of Jacoby Jones instead
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 17, 2011 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions
No, I did not realize this.
You do realize that the Texans try to get to the line quickly & snap the ball most of the time with 15 seconds or so still left on the play clock
I don’t get to see very many Texans games, so I’m not very familiar with their playstyle, and honestly, many of their players not named Schaub, Johnson, Daniels, Williams, or Foster.
Now, I expect the Dolphins to be working on their conditioning to try and reduce the amount of fatigue and cramping that they had on Monday, but we will have to see how effective it will be.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
The O-Line is No Name.
Yet ranked either #2 or #3 as a group.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Twitter - xiane1
The Dreamshake
Again, I'll ask.
Due to him being virtually invisible on the stat sheet; is he just a athletic freak that hasn’tput it all together yet?
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
He's like Charles Clay for us
Except he’s been in the NFL for 3 years and is their #3 TE and #2 FB. He’s the same type of FB/TE player as Clay and has similar speed and build, but he lacks blocking skills. So far he has 17 receptions in 32 career games.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Except more
He can play TE, FB, HB, WR, & if he stayed at Rice, he would have been the starting QB. They used him in a bunch of Wildcat plays at Rice. Offensively, he’s a jack of all trades, a human Swiss Army knife, & Kubiak will use him in whatever way he can think of.
From his Wikipedia page
After retiring from baseball Casey chose to play college football at Rice University. As a freshman in 2007 Casey started four of 12 games recording 46 receptions for 585 yards and four touchdowns. He also had 144 rushing yards on 45 carries and five touchdowns as a running back and completed two of seven passes for 32 yards and an interception as a quarterback. He also played seven different positions in a game against Southern Mississippi.
As a sophomore in 2008 Casey started all 13 games at tight end earning third-team All-American and first-team All-Conference USA honors. He finished the season setting a single-season school record for receptions with 111 for 1,329 yards and 12 touchdowns. He also added 241 rushing yards on 57 carries and six touchdowns and completed two of five passes for five yards.
Let’s just say you probably wish you had him instead of wasting a draft pick on Pat White
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 17, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, boo. Clay can do all of that plus play QB.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
opps, missed that last part.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
He's played them
But it doesn’t mean he’s NFL caliber at all of them. I wouldn’t expect to see him at any position other than TE and FB.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
would you please leave 85 out of this he is over the hill
covering branch and ochocinco should be done week in and out. welker torched you guys before the 99 yard catch. hernandez and gronk owned you up the middle. Please stop!!
by Texansfan82 on Sep 14, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
He torched Benny Sapp...
Who WAS our nickel corner and IS no longer on our team.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions
and our backup FS, who is still starting. Bet he got an ass chewing and won't look for the INT when he's
5 yards out of position.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
From a phins perspective
To be honest, I think it was a combination. Tom Brady picked apart our defense like it was nothing. The hurry-up killed us, I mean we couldn’t even get players off the field in time resulting in wasted time outs and penalties. I hate to say it because, well I am a die hard phins fan but, yes Tom Brady is that good. On the other side, we sucked monday night, no other way to put it. Line backers were getting burned by TE’s (which is why we brought in Kevin Burnett), secondary was about 3 steps too late on every read. Our corners were cramping up in the third quarter which is a bad sign. We were not conditioned nor ready for what the pats were gunna throw at us. Our secondary is good i believe, the problem is they are young. Not one of them has been a starter for 3+years now, so it is still a learning experience. About your running attack, I am worried about our missed tackles, we couldn’t wrap up benjarvus or danny woodhead, what the hell are we gunna do if arian and ben are running down our throats. I think the dolphins D will come out strong this week after getting nationally humiliated on monday. I believe this game will come down to our offense and how productive we can be against a pretty damn good defense. On a side note, I know every phins fan will be celebrating on every blown coverage or missed play by Jason Allen. Goodluck to yall and hopefully no injuries!
by phinsfanatic on Sep 16, 2011 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
No one really went crazy
but we recognized the assets of having a homerun threat out of the backfield. We all recognize that he isn’t an every down back, but interestingly, against the patriots he averaged about 5 yards per completion. Short passes to Bush was kind of a substitute for a lacking power running game. We didn’t see much of a run game from either the Pats of the Fins on Monday but expect them to run it more on Sunday. So far there are no indications of using Bush on special teams which is kind of a head scratcher.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
what is the deal with Thomas
why has he been so disappointing? Is it a skill factor or just a mental factor?
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
he is injured right now
so not even sure if he will play sunday. Thomas has been streaky in the preseason. His biggest knock is that he isn’t physical enough for a guy his size. I think he is starting to pick it up, but it is concerning that the phins brought in Larry Johnson and are looking for another RB.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
Are you worried about the lack of a power running set on the goal line?
It looked like an obvious weakness in the game plan against the Pats. When they got down on the goal line they couldn’t power it in so the drive stalled there. What is your current FB situation?
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I don't know if any power running set can overpower that D-Line set NE has.
Haynesworth, Wilfork, and whoever that other guy is that looked bigger than Haynesworth.
Yeah, Belichick was smart to rotate them in & out to keep them fresh
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
But you gotta at least be able to make them think you can line up and run it to keep them honest. The Phins were only using single back sets so there was never really any threat there.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
the fade on fourth and goal at the 1/2 yard line just blew me away
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
As it did to all of us.
I personally was screaming at my TV that if they were going to go with a fade, why at least not throw it to Marshall who has the size to take advantage of it.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
28 "Phinsider Feud" Points
If you are going to go for it on fourth I love the fade
….on third down. Fourth down just put your head down and get it.
"If my hips had pockets, I wouldn't wear pants at all." @NotBurtReynolds
64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
Or quick slant it
Don’t go with a corner fade route that at best has a 50/50 chance of success.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
you and me both...
just so sad
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
This was really frustrating for Fins fans
We have been so accustomed to having a power run game that being on the goalline and not powering it up the middle was just strange. I hate when play calling gets to fancy down there. The lack of that power runner is very concerning.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
I know they were getting old but the Brown/Williams combo was brutal
I thought for sure they would at least keep Brown. I think he still has gas in the tank and could have been a good compliment to Bush.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
mixed feelings
I think ( as a very biased phins fan) that we put in our time with both those guys, and they gave us a ton back, but if you look at or records over the years we were not going anywhere. We needed a face lift, hence the new OC and new coaches for each position. We needed some new faces to turn this team around. I still love ronnie and ricky for everything they’ve done, but at the end of the day I really believe the Bush/Thomas/Clay 3 headed monster will be superior. The 3 and 1’s and goaline opportunities were lost because Daniel Thomas and Charles Clay (our 2 big backs) were injured, thus leaving reggie and Lex hilliard (and Larry Johnson who has been on the team a little over a week) in the backfield. Im not saying the game would have been different but I think we would have created a lot more opportunities for ourselves if we had both backs healthy.
by phinsfanatic on Sep 16, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I get that
Sometimes if a team’s potential seems to keep stalling out around the mediocre mark a change is needed. We’ve been there for a few seasons now, and most of us will argue that we’re still there until we prove we can become a true playoff team. A lot of us were questioning a complete coaching change from the top down, but at the very least a major shake up was needed on the defensive side of the ball. Luckily we were able to significantly improve that situation so our expectations and anticipation are high for this season.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
I really can't explain that one at all...
We do have Lex Hilliard and Larry Johnson, both of whom can do power running. I really hope we go back and re-evaluate that. I know we want to put more on Henne’s shoulders, but why would we throw a fade to Hartline over handing the ball to either of those guys on the goal line?
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 7:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Thomas coming back from injury in week 2 should fix this.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Bush is an extra WR who can on occasion run between the tackles...
If we use him that way it will be a really good matchup problem for most teams. I do hope that we get some production from our other RBs in short yardage and goal line situations. We could have scored 2 more TDs(and been a lot closer to winning that game) if we did that effectively on MNF.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 7:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Another question
We saw what Mario Williams did to Dallas Clark, is Fasano a good blocker, or do you have another blocking TE that will be on the field alot?
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Fasano is one of the best blocking TE in the league (statistically proven)
Dallas Clark is a glorified WR. Though Fasano is good, they wont leave him one on one against Williams.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
true
Dallas Clark is a glorified WR.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
A few years ago...
Football Outsiders even ranked him with WRs instead of TEs based on usage.
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well thats good
Since we got that mammoth nose tackle this offseason, that should create some nice holes for The Honey Badger and Antonio to get through.
Oh wait…
my Z key can't take another free agent flurry
lol, just need some patience
our NT, paul soliai, took 4 years before he developed into anything decent. NT is the hardest position to fill in a 3-4 D.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
and he was absolutely dreadful the year before...
We were all calling for the phins to draft a NT in the first round. They had all but replaced him, and if our starting DE didn’t go down that year, Starks would have been our starting NT that year instead of Soliai. Now Soliai is a franchise NT.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
hey ... didn't you hear??
We have the best CB tandem in the league.. that’s what I am going to say.
I hope they were embarrassed by their performance last week. CRAMPS?? Are you kidding me?
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Our starting corners played very well last week. Before the cramps.
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Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
This should be a good game.
Henne will face a pass rush this time, so no 400 yard game.
That said, our run D is suspect and I expect alot of screens and draw from Miami.
Should be a fun game and I suspect it will the toughest game the two teams have played yet in this series.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
I would definitely look for a lot of screens and draws.
One thing Monday definitely showed us is that while Reggie Bush is wanting to show that he can be an every down back, he is definitely not a back who should be running between the tackles. I would expect us to use him a lot to the outside where he can make the most use of his explosiveness. The key will be to get him into space and let him do what he does best.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Hopefully a reunion or two with Mario...
Here’s hopin’…
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Dear Texans
I hope you like check downs to Reggie Bush in space.
Love,
Dolphins
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Dear Swimming-Mammalian-Americans,
Bring it.
Love,
Mario
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- MDC
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Dear Dolphins
Reggie Bush has only lasted one 16 game season in his career playing a part time role. Please be sure he updates his medical next of kin form.
Not giving a shit,
Honey Badger
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Dear Reggie
Watch your neck
The Silent Assassin,
Antonio Smith
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Henne faced plenty of pass rush as well as many dropped passes
Henne is a very good quarterback.
He’s basically matt schaub with more upside.
His only flaw (INT) is really blown out of proportion. He basically has had to carry the team which leads to having to force those passes, he also has really not had a running game ever, he was basically the unluckiest qb in the league last year with 1 dropped int.
We can’t run the ball at all, Henne will probably be the #1 fantasy qb by years end.
The only Chad Henne supporter left.
Ehh, BB likes to give you exotic blitz packages. Henne actually did well picking them up and hurting the
Pats. Henne was actually among the top QBsd against pressure last year. His weakness last year was the D sitting back and not letting a WR get open after 5 seconds. I don’t think the Texans corners are going to be able to do that on Marshall, Hartline and Bess.
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Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Bumped To Front Page
Thanks, Chupathingy.
Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...
Chup leaving the daunting task of responding to these comments
I cant put more time into this.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
What's it like having a real nose tackle?
#nosetacklelust
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
I gotta say it's pretty nice.
We were really worried about Soliai at first because he hadn’t played all that great until his contract year. But he was pretty strong in the pre-season and looks far better than he did a couple of years ago. If he can continue with this level of play, we probably won’t have to address the nose tackle position for a while.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
O-line
how good is it and who/or where is the weak spot?
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
This is a simple one.
The left side is great. The right side sucks balls.
We got Jake Long at LT, who is phenominal. Richie Incognito at LG, who although had a couple of holding calls against him on Monday, is a pretty good guard. Mike Pouncey at C, who is our 1st round pick and so far looks to be doing very well at center, for the most part he help his own fairly well against Wilfork and Haynesworth. He could still use some work obviously, but he just seems to be getting better.
On the right side we have Vernon Carey at RG, who used to be our old RT. But he was battling injuries and was starting to decline, especially against speed rushers. And at RT we have Marc Columbo, former Cowboy who I think is worse at RT than Carey. The term most often used to describe Colombo is a “revolving door”.
So if you guys attack the right side, you will probably be able to get a good amount of pressure on Henne.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions
Sounds like that's where Watt & Mario will be coming from
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Mario and Barwin flip based on the formation
They might put him and watt on a certain side in a pass rush package though
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Curious
Has Incognito had any “anger” problems since getting there?
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Surprisingly no.
I live in St. Louis, so I got to see all that when he was with the Rams. And I was totally against the Dolphins signing him. But he seems to have gotten it under control, I don’t think he has had a single personal foul penalty since he signed with us.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
"I live in St. Louis"
Dude, I’m sorry.
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by MDC on Sep 14, 2011 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Things I saw coming from a mile away for $1000, please, Alex.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Just like John Holmes in 3D!
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by MDC on Sep 14, 2011 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Zing!
BLARGH!
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Doubling damning coming from someone exiled to Arkansas...
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Kidnapped and held against his will in Arkanas, actually
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Potayto potahto...
That daughter of yours sound entertaining tho… But I just can imagine someone taking on an imaginary persona… oh… wait…
/wags sheepishly
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- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
What I CAN'T do apparently is TYPE...
c/sound/sounds
c/just can/just can’t
/putting fingers into a time-out until they can just come out here and behave themselves
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- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Second the St. Louis comment
Best night I ever had in St. Louis was hooking up with a girl from Texas. My “line” that night was something along the lines of “this town sucks doesn’t it?”
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I got too much to think about
Whatever.
I grew up here and don’t have a problem with it. Just because it isn’t a huge city doesn’t mean it’s bad. And most the time I’ve seen that the people who bash on it haven’t seen the better parts of the city.
Just my opinion though. Everyone has their own tastes.
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just playing around
Any city that i’m forced to go to repeatedly for work will become hated. That’s where most of my distaste for St. Louis comes from. No matter where you’re from there’s no place like home.
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64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
I lived there for three years for law school
and I hated the place. Then again, I moved there from Kansas City, which I really liked, so that probably explains my bias.
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Loved Incognito coming out of coolege
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64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
Long is just awesome, contender for the best LT in the NFL.
You want to send him our way? We have Magic Beans for you. Long’s problem seems to be that the QB he’s protecting isn’t worthy of his abilities.
I think you’ll find the Texans defensive pressure a far different thing from the past. You have to understand we’re all fairly cynical regarding supposed “changes” and “improvements” regarding the defense here, and yet, we’re almost giddy. The D looks genuinely dangerous.
There was a lot of blame tossed at Kerry Collins last week, but I think one of the turnovers wasn’t his fault. The entire o-line collapsed into him while he was dropping back, he tried to secure the ball and didn’t have the time to do it. That the Texans front caused that is just stunning to me.
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I think I have also heard "turnstile" quite frequently...
I will also coin the term "bullfighter" He puts down quite a few "Ole" blocks….
Hopefully you Texans can appreciate the reference.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I have also heard "turnstile" quite frequently...
I will also coin the term “bullfighter” He puts down quite a few “Ole” blocks….
Hopefully you Texans can appreciate the reference.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I think I have also heard "turnstile" quite frequently...
I will also coin the term “bullfighter” He puts down quite a few “Ole” blocks….
Hopefully you Texans can appreciate the reference.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions
east coast
OU’d
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
I think he was trying to get the formatting down.
But I’m confused why he posted a third time after he got the formatting right in the second reply…
by Tailgate Andy on Sep 15, 2011 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
I replied to the wrong person....lol
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions
My question is
was the fanbase angry that the Dolphins didn’t go out and acquire a RB in the offseason?
they got Bush
not an every down RB, but still a RB.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
I would call him
a kick return guy and occasional WR, he isn’t a RB.
by Bobbythegreat on Sep 14, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
"they got Bush"
/does a jig
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Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
We have Johnson and Bush in the same backfield!!!
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
LOL
They did get a RB. Reggie Bush.
Ha ha! See what I did there? Man I’m hilarious.
Seriously though, we wanted to get faster and more explosive on offense, which is the main reason they went for Reggie. They drafted Daniel Thomas to be the power back, which may have been at least partially influenced by the lockout and them not knowing if they would be able to sign Ronnie or Ricky back. So as for now, we will have to wait and see if this will work out or if we will have to make a big change. But I would at least say that since they re-signed Larry Johnson and are working out other veteran backs they probably aren’t happy with the running game.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
ba-dum-TSSSS!
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- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
LOL
Hey, it’s all I got right now.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
really wanted to see
Ronnie leaving via FA and Ricky becoming the feature back there. I think he still has quite a bit left in the tank.
We were honestly sick of power running ...
We got way too much of it the past few years…. If we can sprinkle some of it in there here and there we will be perfectly balanced. Whether it comes from Larry Johnson or Lex Hilliard we don’t really care. But we want to see more passing than we did the past few years. I loved what we did on offense last game minus the lack of power running at the goal line.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
The Texans are undeafeted against the Dolphins
Even from when the Texans weren’t particularly good. Why do you think they’ve always had the Fins number?
by BricAM on Sep 14, 2011 11:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I really wish I had an answer for that.
Then I could tell the Dolphins FO so they could fix it and probably get paid a nice chunk of money. Believe me, we are painfully aware that we have never beaten you. I think you guys are right behind the Jets and the Pats as the team that we most want to beat. Just so we can prove that we can.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't mean that as an insult.
I have a lot of respect for your organization as a whole and I hope yall come back and have a great season (after starting 0-2 of course :) )
by BricAM on Sep 14, 2011 11:57 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Well here goes...
2003— Dave Wannstedt
2006— Nick Saban(6-10 record that year)
2007— Cam Cameron(1-15 record.. thanks Cam)
2008— rebuilding season. We made the playoffs that year, but don’t be fooled, we were a really bad team that year and we got eliminated(insert humiliated) in the first round of the playoffs and didn’t even look like we belonged.
2009— No Defense… thank you Paul Pasqualoni…. thank you so much…
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:21 AM CDT up reply actions
We may have had a few mediocre to bad years in there too though
I chalk it up to coincidence, personally
Yall missing channig crowder yet?
also saw jason taylor get hurt, is he ok will he be playing this sunday? I know you guys love that wake kid and rightfully so you should, but i can bet we will run to his side alot.
I would say that they definitely miss having Channing around.
With all the communication problems they had in the game, Crowder and his ability to read plays and be the field general was very obvious.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Phins brought him back this week as stated above
Our football, who art in Houston, Texans be thy name. Thy wins will come, this will be done at Reliant and on the road. Give us this year our winning season, and forgive us for our penalties, as we forgive those who false start against us. And lead us not into overtime but deliver us a Superbowl !! ~TheNightOwl
by SteelBlueUSMC on Sep 14, 2011 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Correct RIP...I FAILED
Our football, who art in Houston, Texans be thy name. Thy wins will come, this will be done at Reliant and on the road. Give us this year our winning season, and forgive us for our penalties, as we forgive those who false start against us. And lead us not into overtime but deliver us a Superbowl !! ~TheNightOwl
by SteelBlueUSMC on Sep 14, 2011 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Happens to the best of us
believe it or not, I have even been wrong once.
by Bobbythegreat on Sep 14, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
I thought I was wrong one time
….but it turns out I was mistaken
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82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
by papabear on Sep 14, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You remember it distinctly....
you were sitting in your highchair and…..
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
They brought back Will Allen
We have Jason Allen
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Shame JA went to you guys. He was finally coming into his own in MIA.
Led the NFL in INTs while he was in South Beach.
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Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Not in the slightest.
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Dude...
You can’t do sarcasm boxes in titles. I could only imagine it was sarcasm. The real question is do you regret having Jason Allen on your roster yet?
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Considering the alternative?
…regret is such a strong word. I think we lament that he’s probably our best options at #2.
I also think we’re willing to live with it for now considering the horrific fiery train wreck that was the 2010 Texans secondary.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
I'm so sorry.
Let’s pray for an upgrade in 2012. I’ll also pray he ends up being the Jets #2 CB because that’d make it so much fun for the AFC East clubs.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
yeah ... like a hole in the head....
I was pleasantly surprised to turn on the TV last year and see him get torched by Santonio Holmes to let the Jets pull out a win… you guys should have won that game. Jason Allen the first round pick that keeps giving—→ crap
How he can actually manage to hurt the Dolphins from another division… that is some talent…
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions
it was Braylon Edwards actually
and it was mostly due to the safety not getting over. That safety is no longer employed.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
A Jet is a Jet... they all look the same to me.... lol
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 7:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Despite Henne's numbers would you say he had a good game?
He left two TD’s to Marshall on the field IMO.
Also who would you lay the blame on for the Dolphins going 2/14 on 3rd down and stalling on offense after the first drive in the game?
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Overall we think Henne had a good game.
Of course, much of that is based off his performance last year which left a lot to be desired. He showed a lot of improvement though, which has many of us hopeful. The failed TDs to Marshall I don’t really have an answer for except miscommunication between the 2 and good coverage from the Pats.
I would have to say that the blame can be equally shared by Henne, the OC Brian Daboll, and coach Tony Sparano. Henne for trying to force the ball to Marshall in situations he shouldn’t have. Daboll for not calling more plays to Davone Bess who is awesome at 3rd down conversions. And Sparano for making the call to get rid of fullback Lousaka Polite, who was almost perfect in 3rd and 4th down conversions the last 2 years.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 14, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions
How do you think Henne handled the blitz?
It looked like he got rattled a few times when the Patriots came at him.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
For the most part, I think he handled it ok.
Most of the times that I saw where he looked a little rattled was when the blitz came from the right side and it came faster than he expected. As I mentioned above, that is the biggest weak spot on the Miami O-line.
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Umm.
good great.
He made a few mistakes, but those were few and far in between. the TD to MArshall on the slant should have been caught. I don’t remember the other one. Henne was the leading offensive player in all areas except for receiving TDs, catches and receiving yards. Henne was only the 4th QB in history to pass for 400+ yards and rush for 50+ yards. He also generated 3 TDs and no turnovers.
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Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
What did y'all think about dropping Jason Allen?
I know I’ve been very unimpressed by him, though I think I’m in the minority with that opinion.
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Oh, right.
Oops.
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
We really don't miss him at all.
He never lived up to what he could do and we pretty much consider him a bust. We don’t regret getting rid of him in the slightest, and if anything, look forward to hopefully being able to abuse him the way he let other teams abuse him when he played for us.
LOL
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With that knowledge
I will cry myself to sleep tonight. Thanks!
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Wait... in the minority?
You can’t find anyone in Miami that was ever impressed with him. He was pretty good on special teams, but his failures on defense more than made up for any success he had on the ST unit.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
It's more a matter of comparing him to our other CB's
Compared to Kareem Jackson, Jason Allen has been at least average. He’s given up some plays, but he’s also made a few.
by Tailgate Andy on Sep 14, 2011 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
What Andy said
It’s like being the tallest midget or the skinniest kid in fat camp. Except I still don’t think Allen is even average, but he makes the occasional pick, and that’s something!
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I'd say he's average
He’s much better than the crap we had at CB last season other than Quin
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Not to mention I believe he led the team in interceptions. Perspective matters a lot
If I’m not mistaken, the quote was…….
Jason Allen got 3 INTs for the Dolphins & got waived. Allen got 3 INTs for the Texans & got praisedI’m pretty sure by anybody’s standards, 6 INTs in a season is a pretty good year for a DB
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions
The 3 ints with the Phins all came against Favre
he lost us more games than passes he picked off.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
Again, he was still an upgrade over what we had behind Quin
However it seems that Kareem may have begun to catch up to him. I believe Allen & Kareem have been rotating at CB2 so far. I think Kareem is better in zone whereas Allen seems to be better in man coverage
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Interceptions without context can be misleading
Deangelo hall had a ton of interceptions last year too, but he also allowed the fifth highest catch % in the league. Not all interceptions are created equal is what I’m saying. They all help the team, but I won’t give a guy as much credit for tipped pass or poorly thrown ball that falls into his arms as I will for one where the CB breaks on the ball to beat the WR to it.
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Will Henne & the offense have any match ups against the Texans D that you feel will be Exploited?
And is there anything that our Defense does that causes miss matches against the Phins Offense?
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"is there anything that our Defense does that causes miss matches"
Has Mario Williams on the roster.
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... as long as he whispers "Yes sir, I AM your bitch..." as Mario walks by
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/squeals like little girl
/falls to the turf
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/offers Mario a LOVELY Heisman Trophy replica
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by DilloTex on Sep 14, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Mario's arm
Is the equivalent of running into a tree at 60 MPH with no airbags
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Death by Mario

My poor attempt at Paint shop.
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by SteelBlueUSMC on Sep 14, 2011 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
If you put that design on a t-shirt, I would buy one. Just sayin’…
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Awwww, you read my post.
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by UprootedTexan on Sep 14, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
It was a great mental image UT. Had to do something with it.
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by SteelBlueUSMC on Sep 14, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
lulz
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by SteelBlueUSMC on Sep 14, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Mario Williams will be an exciting matchup as far as how they gameplan against each other.
Mario Williams will be matched up against Jake Long and as great a pass rusher Williams is, that is not aneasy task. After all, Long is considered the best LT in the NFL. I expect the Texans to move Williams around and possibly try to line him up the left side against Marc Colombo. I also expect Miami to use Anthony Fasano, a very good blocking TE, often on the right side to provide assistance for Colombo to block Williams.
If Williams is matched up against Long, they’ll probably leave him on an island. Long has often faced the game’s best pass rushers, including Julius Peppers, Jared Allen, and Dwight Freeney without assistance. I don’t expect Miami to provide him help this time.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
in base sets Mario and Barwin (other OLB) typically will line up based on formation
Both tackles can expect to see plenty of Mario depending on situation. You will see him in plenty of different spots.
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Yep, that is what I am expecting.
Miami will employ a few ways to counter him I’m sure. If Fasano is on his side, he could go into a straight into the flats or Miami may use Bush for a quick pass out of the backfield. Of course, they could just keep Fasano in to help Colombo double Williams.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Expect some stunts
We’re pretty good at it and it’ll shift the rush to the inside away from Long.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Of course
I think that is the goal for a lot of the teams in trying to get away from Long. It’ll still be interesting to see how Mario does. I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets a sack, but I would be surprised if it came against Long. I don’t expect him to wreak havoc on Henne though.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Our FB, Hilliard has also done well against rush LBers, but not at the level of Mario.
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Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
One's the best
The other’s the second best. I don’t know which one goes where.
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Oops
I realized I left off Long versus Thomas.
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That was always hotly debated
But a lot have given Long the nod because he is as much a grinder in the running game as he is an anchor in pass protection. You really can’t go wrong with Long or Thomas.
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- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
If only we could get Joe Thomas to play RT for us.
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That just wouldn't be fair
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
In order to pay for both of them,
You’d have the worst interior line.
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So we would have our interior O-Line from last year with the best OTs in the league...
kind of a flat point there
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
Jake Long and Joe Thomas are basically 1A and 1B. Tough call. Phins fans will always go for Long, but Thomas is very good. Considering that Long has less help on the O-Line I will give him the nod. The Browns have Alex Mack and Steinbach helping Thomas out.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
As a Michigan fan, I must point out...
that Long beat Thomas for the Big Ten Offensive Lineman of the Year Award in 2006, when Thomas was a senior and Long was a junior. (Long won it the following year, too.)
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But was he part of the great Michigan team that beat App. State?
….oh wait, they lost that game. I forgot
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I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
by papabear on Sep 15, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs

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by MDC on Sep 15, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
foiled again by SBN's policy to not allow me to rec my own post
cause I enjoyed the shit out of that one.
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I got too much to think about
I LOL'd
But, seriously, I’ll stab you.
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Let me goo that for you, pb
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And an insurance rec
“Just in case”
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 15, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm stealing this for later use by the way...
…just so ya’ know.
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Somebody green this...
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- MDC
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Im now friends with Tony Sporanos, daughters best friend.
We watched the game on Monday together.
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
Just gonna softball it in like that?
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
It seemed as convenient, and relevant a time as any to post this...
so yes. yes i am.
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
by Carter Liles on Sep 14, 2011 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
HA!
I’ll be nice…for a change. :-)
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this some kind of a Kevin Bacon reference that I'm missing?
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someone would have to tell me
who kevin Bacon is. Although he has a great name!
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
by Carter Liles on Sep 14, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
He's Johnny Pork Rinds' older brother...
Their sister Virgina Ham is well known throughout the south…
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by DilloTex on Sep 14, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
keep in mind I'm 18
None of these names mean anything to me.
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
by Carter Liles on Sep 14, 2011 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions
ohhh. Animal house guyy.
Yeah i recognize the Face. Never been good with actors/ singers names
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
by Carter Liles on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
F!@#$
Am I really getting this old?*
*not BFD old. Just regular old
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64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
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I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
by papabear on Sep 14, 2011 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
/knows the feeling
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- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
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you DO know there was a Footloose..
before this awful remake comes out later this year, right? BTW I can’t believe they made almost a shot-for-shot remake of Footloose. Totally uncalled for.
Mario 2011 Opposing QB Shart count: 3
by Austin Bob_Ford on Sep 14, 2011 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just more Evidence
That with very few exceptions, Hollywood ran out of new movie ideas many years ago.
If the Treasury Secretary doesn't have to pay taxes, then why do I?
yeah it was but..
Hollywood really did run out of ideas…..
They are making movies out of Rock em Sock em and Battleships….
Mousetrap
Would be more exciting
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 14, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm still waiting for them to announce
the next “big summer blockbuster”: Hungry Hungry Hippos.
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Actually,
that might make a pretty decent horror/gore movie.
An innocent family from the Northeast goes on a peaceful African safari, when all of a sudden…
HUNGRY HUNGRY HIPPOS! They’re hungry for blood!
by Tailgate Andy on Sep 14, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
When is a movie based on Candyland coming out? ;)
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Never try to baptize a cat.
Ooohhhh,
what about Chutes and Ladders?
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We're thinking along the same lines... I thought of that one too but you beat me to it.
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Wasn't That called Alien?
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 14, 2011 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrFTR9fucr8
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Okay, the reference was too obscure... here...
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Thank you for that Dillo, made my evening.
Especially since I most the Assholiest comments.
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Oops, you dropped something there
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by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Heh
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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 14, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Another question
With Ronnie Brown gone have yall completely abandoned the Wildcat offense? Or do you have others than can run it aa well as he did?
by BricAM on Sep 14, 2011 12:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
I'm hoping it is dead
But we do have the personnel for it. Daniel Thomas, Miami’s rookie RB, was a QB in JuCo and ran out of the Wildcat for the Wildcats. He didn’t play in week one so I’m not sure if they intend to run it once or more per game, or if it’ll be a play they’ll use on rare occasions. I am sure they have Wildcat plays though. Henning and Brown may be gone, but Daboll ran it with Cribbs in Cleveland and Thomas at least has passing experience.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
NickScurfield Nick Scurfield
RB Arian Foster (hamstring) returned to practice today. Kubiak said he took a normal Wed load for a starter. “Everything was positive.”
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Great news.
Hopefully he’s ready to wreak some havoc on Sunday.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Sep 14, 2011 1:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I want to see an MRI before I say he is ready....
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Sep 14, 2011 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
So does John Clayton, MD
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by MDC on Sep 14, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Man! How did you get all those recs and I didn't get a one!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Sep 14, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Media bias.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Bolstered by historical greatness.
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...and "journalistic integrity"
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Sep 14, 2011 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's not get crazy here.
I’m a journalist like Scott is a real person.
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DYSWIDT?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Sep 14, 2011 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Y,ISWYDT.
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by MDC on Sep 14, 2011 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec whores...
I know… Pot… Kettle…
Move along…
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Sep 15, 2011 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
REC'D!
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by MDC on Sep 15, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
/wags... recs right back...
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see a copyright
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not on the picture, so it's fair game
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 16, 2011 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I love that...
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Because this is a blog and I’m an argumentative bastard." - tehGrindCrusher
Someone called me?
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Foster will have 100+ yd game with 5 rec for 60 yds.
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by SteelBlueUSMC on Sep 14, 2011 1:25 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
As a "guest" here, I was noticing a lot of that
not that all my fellow phins fans are behaving like saints
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
We're a very strange bunch.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I appreciate that, of course. I try to live up to my name
I noticed two additional things though.
1) There are some very articulate knowledgable fans here. Great to hear their opinions
2) Some people here (not everyone of course) take these “diplomatic mission” posts as an opportuinity to trash talk as opposed to listen and learn. Not to say some of our folks didn’t go overboard as well, but I had very little interest in taking part this time because of it.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I think it has served to increase my interest in the game, though...
Whereas before I was just rooting for my Texans to win…
Now that all the trash has been talked about them, I REALLY want ’em to win. Convincingly. Emphatically. In Belicheatean fashion.
Should add some spice to the game.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
whatever works for you.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I no know either!
You have to sift through dirt just to find gold.
There are some fans out there that don’t understand the purpose of these kinds of posts, but most of us here are very cordial when it comes to getting to know the opponent. It’s informative to me, to the the most of us. So we try to make the most out of it.
Hope the few of them don’t ruin your experience in diz here blog. I tend to avoid those posters, so should you.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
I will follow your advice
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
i say he hops right back on that bike
200+ just like last season in his first game out of the gates
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
So how do you guys feel about Daniel Thomas?
obviously Reggie isn’t a between the tackles guy, so you think Thomas can pick up the slack?
Reggie looks fine running between the tackles
He won’t wear defenses down like that, but it looks like he has the vision, agility, and toughness to do it. Thomas is much more of a power back with some nimble feet, but until he plays and does it, you can never really know if he will pick up the slack.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Aww,
Still in denial. Give it 5 more years, then call me for a shoulder to cry on.
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Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
by Jon Banks on Sep 14, 2011 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Or just use Reggie's... it should be detached and in a cardboard box by then
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Sep 14, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Insert
Notsureifserious.jpg here
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 14, 2011 8:21 PM CDT up reply actions
about yalls d
yes yall had the number 6 d last year which is some what of a misqued stat it only counts total yards you still gave up 20.6 pts a game yes we gave up 26 but this is a new year and as far as the eye can see we looked good and yall looked bad… just sayin
by Steelbluecurtain on Sep 14, 2011 2:23 PM CDT reply actions
It's all a matter of perception.
You can say we looked bad, we can also say that it was also against Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, 2 people who know our team better than anybody that’s not a Dolphin.
You can also say that your D looked good, but we could say that it was also against a Colts offense that did not have Peyton Manning, whom that entire offense is built for specifically.
Regardless of how you want to spin words, one game does not define how a team is going to be for the year. If it was, we should go ahead and pencil the Bills in for deep into the playoffs and the Steelers as one of the worst teams in the league.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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Just my opinion, but I think you guys are arguing about the wrong thing
In my mind, even if we assume your defense is good, our offense was #3 or #4 last year, depending on what yardstick you use. The offense is primarily intact from last year, with the “addition” of Owen Daniels and Tate, who were both out most or all of last season. So I think it is a pretty good indication we will be good again this year. The thing is, the league rules are set up to favor the offenses. So all things being equal, the offense generally wins. Case in point is Brady vs. you guys last week, NO vs GB where both have really good defenses but gave up a bunch of points. So, I think, odds are, our offense will be successful, even if your defense is as good as you say.
I think the real question is how our defense stacks up against your offense. Our defense had a major makeover over the off-season, and like you say, one game doesn’t necessarily provide all the answers. I will say that having watched our defense in the pre-season and against Indy, that I strongly believe that last Sunday wasnt a fluke. In every aspect of the defense, attitude, strategy (coaching), and personnel, I see marked improvement. Basically players are now in the right spots to make plays. I thought your offense did well, but frankly, I wasn’t impressed with the Patriot defense. I did not see them put up the kind of pressure I think you should expect from us this weekend.
So my question to you is…how do you see your offense stacking up against our defense? What do you feel are the weak points you can attack?
by BleachBum on Sep 14, 2011 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, first off let me preface this
by saying that I did not see any Texans games during the preseason and I did not watch their game this past Sunday either. So all I have to base any of my comments on are from either what I have read (here and elsewhere) or from highlights that I have seen.
That being said, we have put work into making our offense faster and more explosive. The most obvious of these is Reggie Bush. Also, we drafted a receiver by the name of Clyde Gates who is a burner, I think he ran a 4.3 40 at the Combine (I would have to double check the exact time). He has shown in the pre-season that he was fairly easily able to get past defenders and pull away from them. But he is still a little raw and hadn’t really had time to develop a chemistry with Henne yet. He could be very dangerous once that happens however.
As far as the exact matchup, I know you guys signed Jonathan Joseph, but I’m not sure who your other corner is. We played Joseph last year when he was with the Bengals and we didn’t have much trouble from him, but sometimes a change of scenery and coordinator can make a huge difference, so I’m not going to guarantee that he won’t be a factor, but personally, I like our chances if he’s matched up on Marshall.
But to sum it up, if our O-line can get it together and give Henne a little bit of protection, I like the way our offense can work against your defense (to the best of my knowledge) and they should be able to keep up with you. However, if the O-line continues to act like a sieve and just let rushers through, we could be in for a long game as we would have to rush throws, which can easily lead to mistakes.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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4.31 40 time...
He also mentioned that he had a pulled hamstring that day.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I couldn’t remember the exact time on his 40. I just knew it was a 4.3 something.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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You're being very hypocritical Bleach and Steel
you said that your offense was #3 or 4 last year and that you added players to bolster last year’s offense. But then when we say we brought back 10 of 11 starters and upgraded our ILB spot and also have our first round pick Odrick coming back this year after only playing one game we’re wrong because it was last year’s team.
We got beat by a 14-2 team with an improved offense. You guys won against a team that has no Peyton Manning and is in the Luck sweepstakes. The Steelers, the defending AFC champs, had 7 turnovers last game and got killed by the Ravens? Are people saying they are horrible? No. They we’re just out-prepared and out-coached. Just like us.
The game will be a lot closer than you guys think. I think it can go either way, but the blind homerism over here is crazy. If you guys want to go by last week so much then our offense will be ranked #2 and yours will be #13. What, is it only one week now? And we will go from the 6th ranked defense to 32nd and you guys will be ranked 5th. Is that correct? To you guys probably. All I’m saying is don’t have full judgement over one game.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
I think the point they didn't articulate well...
Was that, while last year both these teams excelled in certain aspects of the game, this is a new season and the Dolphins’ defense bombed (granted, it was only one game). The Texans’ offense has a longer track record of success so there isn’t much concern there among the fan base.
Not that I necessarily agree with that argument. Everything is relative. I do thinks the Texans will win the the game this Sunday but that has more to do with the fact that I have very little faith in Chad Henne to be a legitimate NFL QB and Reggie Bush to be an every-down back. There is definitely some offensive talent on that roster, I just don’t think it’s enough to overcome the liabilities presented by Henne and Bush.
That said, Houston’s is a defense currently in transition and it’d be silly of us to not expect growing pains. Guys like Brandon Marshall and Davone Bess can exacerbate those pains and, as much as I dislike him as a running back, Bush can make crazy things happen if he gets the ball in space or on a screen. While I still don’t think this defense will get it’s first real test until next weekend against the Saints, this game should gives us a good idea about where we stand in that transition.
As far as the “blind homerism” generalization, that’s not really the case here. We’re routinely disrespected as a franchise (for good reason, don’t get me wrong) so I think some people get defensive when what we deem are the obvious strengths of this team (basically, the offense) get questioned. In my experience, most of the regular posters here are rather level-headed, if not a bit pessimistic.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
by Synchysi on Sep 14, 2011 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ZhkLUcKT8
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
there are tons of homers here
The Pats fans last week were way more receptive to discussion.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
Well you completely misrepresented what I said
In my very first sentence I said “…even if we assume your defense is good..” and last sentence of first paragraph “…even if your defense is as good as you say.” In other words, I am not questioning your defense AT ALL. I have no idea where you got that from. My conclusion/opinion here was that it didnt matter because the rules are set up to favor the offenses in the NFL. I think there are quite a few examples of good defenses not being able to stop good offenses.
I went on to say that the real question should be about our defense, which has greatly changed since last year. And here I said “…one game doesnt necessarily provide all the answers.” How is that going by last week so much??? To be honest, I think you fall into that category when you say Indy is in the Luck sweepstakes. I dont think we know that yet after one game. Maybe they are that bad, or maybe we are that good, or maybe it is something in between. It is hard to say just yet.
by BleachBum on Sep 15, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
this sunday ought to be fun!
Put all the speculation to rest.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
perception is reality brother welcome to the show
like i said its a new year so i personally throwing out all of last years stats i only bring them up because " we had a top 10 d last year" is pretty much the main argument that i have read granted brady and the pats o are i guess you could maybe say pretty good (joke) yes we kicked the crap out of the colts but our first team d kicked the crap out of every one we played in the preseason granted it the preseason but the first team is the first team.. but all words aside we will see sunday
by Steelbluecurtain on Sep 14, 2011 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but at the same time
our first team d also kicked the crap out of the teams we played in the pre-season too. But you wouldn’t think that based off of what you saw Monday night. I put less stock into what happens during the pre-season than I do for last season. Mainly because most of the first teamers are vets who aren’t really fighting for a job, they are mainly playing just for reps and are trying not to get injured. Plus teams don’t want to give things away to opponents during the pre-season, so they don’t play the same way as they do during the regular season.
"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue
I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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agreed
preseason stock is worse than the dow but i still say last year was last year.. also i have to say your tag saying is pretty damn funny…Why don’t you put that in a memo and entitle it ‘Shit I Already Know’!" – Sarge from Red vs. Blue
GO TEXANS
by Steelbluecurtain on Sep 14, 2011 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Jason Taylor said
" Defensively we didn’t cover anybody. We didn’t rush worth a darn, didn’t tackle very well. We still had a chance to be in the game."
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 14, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
there was a lot of holding, IMO.
We’ll see if it was the holding or just Wake isn’t the best pass rusher in the league anymore.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
The 20.6 PPG also included a poor ST unit and INTs/fumbles returned for TDs.
Our D was stout.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
When points come from offense and special teams
The defense can’t be held accountable. That’s like me blaming Schaub for Houston’s poor defense last year.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
trust me, you can blame anyone for anything here, lol
for eg.:
Schaub scores too fast and the defense has no time to rest up.
LOL, that was kinda the way it was
for us on Monday. The offense would either score really quickly or couldn’t sustain a drive so the defense had to come right back out without time to catch their breath.
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I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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Schaub gave up points to check the ravens game so did ST also check the ravens game
im not holding your d entirely accountable but your team did give up those points just like my team gave up 26
by Steelbluecurtain on Sep 14, 2011 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but our D didn't give up a lot of points last year.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Taitors at the Chronicle??? Say it ain't so!!!
Yeah…I have confidence that they’ll be ready. My buddy is a reporter for the Houston Chronicle, and, secretly (lol), a fellow phins fan. He says it looks scary good. Really fast. They’re practicing rolling in subs during hurry up and all that. It’ll be interesting to watch. And, it’s gonna hit 102 degrees here today….same yesterday….so the heat won’t be much of an advantage.
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TRAITORS TOO!
Though taters are delicious.
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by TexansForever on Sep 14, 2011 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions
They should do their homework
Schaub’s one of the most accurate passers in NFL history.
"Lord, beer me strength."
to the BRBers
does anyone have stats on j jo vs marshall
by Steelbluecurtain on Sep 14, 2011 4:05 PM CDT reply actions
You'd probably have to PFF it
but you’d also have to consider that maybe Joseph didn’t cover Marshall….and that Leon Hall could have.
"Lord, beer me strength."
just curious
how do dolphins fans feel about them cutting that cb sapp was it because he got beat on that 99 yd play??? If so thats tough i mean its not like he got beat by some unproven guys that was brady to welker they have beat alot of corners also it didnt seem like there was any safety help to me it seems like a bad play call mixed with a bad play by the cb I mean if the guy was good enough to make the squad why cut him after one bad game or one bad play.
Do ya’ll think that is the coaching staff passing blame for getting beat onto that one player?
I dont feel like that one player cost ya’ll the game. Just curious to see what phins fans think?>
get it while the gettins good!!!
Sapp was getting beat all night
not just on that 99 yarder. There was a safety that actually blew the containment on that play as well.
I think the coaching staff outsmarted itself in keeping Sapp and cutting Will Allen. Sapp came in last year and as 50/50. There were injury concerns with Will Allen and that is pretty much a death sentence on the phins. There is no doubt that Allen, when healthy, is a lot better than Sapp. This coaching staff requires absolute responsibility. Last year our ST coordiator was canned in the middle of the year. If you do not preform you are gone, no excuses, no sympathy.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
because they didn't offer Harbaugh enough money
zing
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
^^THIS^^
We have been told by our owner that he was not going to see Harbaugh for that reason…
if he tells us that it must be true
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Lol
you may think that is a new question, but dolfans ask that every Sunday.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
Seems to be a theme there in Florida
Jags fans must be asking themselves the same thing about Jack Del Rio
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I am also hoping that Reshad Jones loses the starting spot to Clemmons this week ...
He missed on a few of those… I would rather have the safe CB than the hit or miss big play CB personally..
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions
All this talk about Mario
Yeah, the Dolphins have to game plan around him. Maybe they even neutralize him for the most part. I have a feeling you’ll have a hard time doing that and also control Antonio Smith.
Dude is a fucking ninja.
Total fucks given by JJ Watt: 0
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by MDC on Sep 14, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
What is this with you riding on my posts and getting recs?!!!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Think of it like you are dishing out assists.
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by MDC on Sep 14, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Okay, I'm Shaun Cody tripping shoving the center into the RB and your Mario zooming in for the sack-fumble, gotcha....
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I think of it as him being Tom Cruise to your Dustin Hoffman...
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
who??
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions
this^
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
You'll learn about him soon enough
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 17, 2011 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I mean ... I did take a few seconds to look at his career stats....
He must be some sort of ninja because he does not show up on the stat sheet … The most sacks he has ever put up in a year is 5.5. We have a rookie OLB named Koa Misi who had 5 sacks last year, but I wouldn’t dare suggest that you guys are going to have to account for Koa Misi… or even Jason Taylor for that matter ….
When it all comes down to it one of those guys will more than likely line up on Jake Long. He can handle Mario Williams with no help at all. He is hands down the best LT in the league and he regularly shuts out pass rushers.
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions
For someone that's so high on his team's defensive line...
You should know that a lot of what makes them effective (especially in a 3-4) doesn’t show up on the stat sheet.
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We've had one of the league's best DL since 2009.
The only asterisk is when our NT went down in the back end of 2009.
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I'm not saying anything about your defensive line.
I’m just pointing out that judging a defensive lineman by their stats alone is beyond asinine.
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I thought he was judging Casey on his receiving stats?
Also, 43 DL have more opportunities to shoot gaps and make plays.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
The comment thread is about Antonio Smith.
Who played 3-4 in Arizona, then DE opposite of Mario Williams when we signed him before the 2009 season. He also slid inside to DT in passing situations, so his primary job wasn’t always to rush the passer.
The point is, he is an underrated lineman whose contributions don’t always show up in the stat sheet. This will be especially true this season as he plays 3-4 DE/nickle DT almost exclusively.
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Does anyone attend Dolphins games?
From what I watched on DIRECTTV through the years you see alot of bright orange empty seats. Some ticket vendor may have bot them but have to wonder how long that goes on?
Too bad the Texans can’t play the fish every week, last I checked were 5-0 vs the tuna’s.
Carpe Diem
I don't think we are one to talk about stadium attendance
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Our attendance is fine
We are not the earliest arriving crowd (blame it on the excellent tailgating scene), and years of frustration have led to fans often leaving early when things go wrong but overall attendance is fine.
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82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
No kidding
Looked like a Jags game or something.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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I am going to try and make it
To the Raiders game, another team we almost always beat. Saw us play the Bears 2 years ago. Most NFL teams have empty stadiums, its usally ticketmatser/stubhub buying up a pile of tickets that keeps the venues “sold out”.
Carpe Diem
I love me some Lucky Charms...
Diabetes in a box though…but damn they’re good.
They're Magically delisious
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And whole grain according to the ads :P
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 14, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Whole grain?!
Well shit, that’s like losing 30 pounds right there!
/needs to go to grocery store for Lucky Charms
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by UprootedTexan on Sep 14, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Great... now I hear THAT voice in my head...
…over the other 12.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
The Innegan voice?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
by Rip Jersey on Sep 14, 2011 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
No... sounds similar, but...
…the Innegan voice’s dialogue is pretty limited:
“NNNHH!!!”
“OW-OW-OW!!!”
“Yes, Andre, I am your bitch!”
“Please, Andre, don’t hit me again!”
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
by DilloTex on Sep 15, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Chupa!
How ya been man? Nice to see that the Dolphins fanbase is still very welcoming and chatty.
Not sure if this question’s been answered because I killed teh kitties, but what the hell possessed Henne to throw for 400+yds?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
he's a totally different QB this year
he is finally under a new OC that suits HIM. The last one, Dan Henning, was so old that we ran an offense that would’ve been very successful in the 70’s. Henning set up his scheme to Chad Pennington’s strengths, instead of Henne’s. Henne couldn’t even audible at the line. All he could do was call for max protection on a blitz. We were very predictable and slow last year but this year we added excitement and speed to our team, which is helping out Henne.
I also think he threw for 400 yards because:
1. Daniel Thomas, one of our main RBs, was out for an injury.
2. Reggie did well in the beginning but the Pat’s d-line started to dominate us.
3. We were down late in the game.
A lot of us at The Phinsider are excited with Henne and think he can breakout and be a top 15 QB this season. He has all the tools and now has the scheme that fits him. We just need a more balanced attack, which Daniel Thomas will bring.
Henne was also the 5 QB in NFL history to throw for 400+ and have 50+ rushing yards. Steve Young was one of the ones that did it. He looks a lot more mobile than years past and had 59 yards rushing with a rush of 18 yards and a 10 yard rushing TD. That’s something you guys should watch out for on 3rd down.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
He did look very different in that game
He seemed more sure of himself, not hesitating on throws like he used to. I’m glad that he found an OC that suits his needs. He can be a successful QB with the right coaching.
What about all that Orton talk during the off-season, where did that come from?
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
Well the coaches with a shortened offseason had confidence in Henne
but wanted a backup plan because they didn’t truly knew how he looked. They tried to bring in legit competition for Chad and Orton was supposed to be that competition for him. A couple things factored in the deal not being completed:
1) Orton wanted a long term contract insurance and wanted to be a starter
2) Our GM wasn’t willing to pay him that much for that long, when he might only be the backup.
It ended up working out well for us and not so well for the Broncos, who now have fans chanting for Tebow.
I got S + What a Dog's Tail Does.
One of them "Young Guns"
Also from what I remember, your GM didn't want to give up the high draft pick the Broncos wanted
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 14, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
right ... if we had been trying to trade for Brady... or Manning ... I could see it...
But we are talking about KYLE FREAKING ORTON!!
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Be glad you didn't get him
I don’t know if it is their scheme or Orton – but he took forever to make a decision
to add sort of a cheap shot -did he think he was Brady against the Dolphins or what?
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 15, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions
somone is believing the press clippings....
someone should pinch him…. Honey Badger?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Last year CBs would line up on Brandon Marshall and tell him what route he was going to run based on the formation...
For some reason things seem much easier now that CBs don’t know the routes our WRs are going to run….
WEIRD
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Created a similar fanpost at the Phinsider
Feel free to answer questions by the dolpins fans over there when you can
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-Catch 22-
Yes
Daniels and Casey are good weapons but you guys think every one of your TEs is the next Tony Gonzalez. Gronk and Hernandez are good TEs, but more importantly they are in a system that lets them flourish. NE uses wide outs just to take the pressure off the middle of the field, hence Brady’s crazy low amount of interceptions and crazy high completion rate. Its also hard to deny that facts an statistics, Gronk and Hernandez were monsters last year and seem like they will continue to be.
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Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
"more importantly they are in a system that lets them flourish"
Ah, so “way better” = “plays in a better system”? Good to know.
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The fact that you don't even mention Dreesen in there
tells me that you don’t realize how good our TE core is. Dreesen stepped in and put up OD numbers when he went down with an injury. They don’t have to be the next gonzalez to be as good as gronk and hernandez so I don’t get that comment. We also use TEs a lot in our system, hell in our system the TE has more pass catching then the WR2 a lot of the time.
Statistics wise, OD and Dreesen can point to their numbers and say they have matched Gronk and Hernandez, so I"m guessing you didn’t look at their numbers before pimping Gronks and Hernandez’s
by nolander on Sep 15, 2011 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
BUT OD ONLY HAD 471 YARDS!
in 11 games. Not saying the pats don’t have good TEs, but our TE corps can stand tall with any other in the league, and I don’t get why every year other teams still downplay the ability of the Texans TEs.
you can't expect them to
the other fanbases aren’t watching them like you do. Especially anything beyond the starter.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
its their division rival
I’m sure we know more about the Colts of Tits players as well ans would be slanted in judgment.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
This^
most phins fans know just as much about the Jets and Pats as they do the Phins. (Bills dont matter)
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
To be fair, the Chefs don't really matter either.
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They won the division last season
But then again, the Raiders swept that division
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I should further qualify that statement.
The AFC West doesn’t really matter.
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Until they start screwing things up
By beating teams they have no business beating
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions
That's kind of the point of these little exchange programs
Unless you’re one of the chosen teams of BSPN then it’s hard for fans to get the whole picture of what is really going on with other teams. Nobody knows their team better than a bunch of loosers with no life diehard fans that hang around places like this.
It shouldn’t be a my team is teh awesome and you’re a moron because you don’t my teams third TE kind of thing. It should be a “hey, you guys should look out for this guy you’ll never hear the talking heads mention”
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I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
the reason I get fired up
is because yes, thats the point of these, but when we start talking about our TEs the other teams fans go, mah, whatever their not THAT good, when they honestly are.
because they only see the stat lines
OD has been injured and Casey and Graham never put much on the stat line. We know their ability because we watch them in depth. I would expect them to think the NE tight ends are better, they put up big stat lines and get more media attention.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Well, I'll be honest in that
before reading in this thread, outside of Owen Daniels I couldn’t have told you any other TE on the Texans. And it’s mainly for the reason that others have mentioned, they don’t get raved about in the media like other players do. And yes, we tend to know more about the players on our division rivals teams than we do about other teams players. Simply because we see those players much more often. Also, since we don’t have to play the Texans on a regular basis, I don’t really watch many of their games, so I am not all that familiar with your roster.
It’s sort of the standard human perception of things in that a vast majority of people have the mindset of “If they were really that good, everyone would have heard about them.” Now that is obviously a flawed way of thinking because every team has some really good players that are really very good, but don’t get all the attention or buzz because they don’t play for a team based in the north eastern United States and so the national media doesn’t think anyone cares about them.
For example, could you name the player who was the Dolphins fullback the last few years? He was released this offseason, but in his last 2 years in 3rd or 4th down situations with 1-3 yards to go, he only failed to convert 1 of them. He was considered one of the best blocking fullbacks even though he never got much in the way of media talk.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 15, 2011 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
but if you told me he was awesome
I would actually do some research before telling you no way he can’t be good becaause Vonte is the best FB in the league.
Well, I personally am not saying that
your TEs aren’t great, I’m just saying that I haven’t heard much about them and am unfamiliar with how good they are. And for reference, I personally believe that both Gronkowski and Hernandez would just be average if they were not playing in the Patriots offensive system with Tom Brady throwing to them.
I don’t assume anything about a player until I see them play for myself. I will have some impressions based on what I hear from other people, mainly fans for the team they play for, but I don’t make judgements until I’ve had a chance to see them for myself. If my confidence in the abilities of some of our players is coming across as those kind of judgements, I apologize. I am not trying to be derogatory or dismiss the skill of the Texans players, rather I am trying to convey how confident we as Dolphins fans are in the skills and abilities of some of our players.
Oh, and if you were wondering the fullback I was referring to was Lousaka Polite.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 15, 2011 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Lousaka Polite
is a badass name. I have no issues with you oh mighty chupa! There is a line that is hard to walk in all of these discussions, and we can all take a moment to be grateful that none of us are as pompous of asshats as the 49ers fans are. Now THAT was a frustrating ask the XXX.
Speaking of fullbacks, tell your OC not to use Soliai again.
That was the worst blocking as a fullback I have ever seen. I know he is an NT but the guy didn’t bust his head in and blow someone up. He stopped and put out his hands like he was passblocking, you don’t do that as a fullback, especially on the goalline.
.................
Yeah, I don't know about that one.
I understand he wanted to use a big guy to plow the road, but I don’t think Soliai has ever done any kind of run blocking like that.
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yeah, I understand the philosophy behind it.
but first you gotta teach the guy the correct way to block as a fullback. If he can’t do it then don’t use him, you’ll get more production out of a small guy doing it right then you will out of a big guy doing it wrong.
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lol ... yeah .... he really sucked ....
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
They don't put up the yards, so they don't get attention.
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Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
NE top 2 TEs combined for
1109 yards, the Texans top 2 for 989, and thats with our best TE missing 5 games.
by nolander on Sep 15, 2011 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
nice casual omission of the most damning statistic to your argument lol
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
NE was missing Herndo for most of the season as well.
Mercenaries never die. They just go to hell to regroup. - Unknown. I dont always make paradoxes, but when i do, i don't.- Brock Obama. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB.
Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas, D. Avery. Dolphins not pulling their weight: B. Sapp, J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
That New England TEs outscored Houston TEs?
16 TDs by NE and 6 by Houston?
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
I'm sorry that I am not familiar with the ins and outs of the bottom of your depth chart
but that is a pretty unreasonable expectation. I haven’t mentioned any of the phins talented lower depth guys for the reason that I wouldn’t expect you to know them.
Lets play the stats game (which I hate but whatever):
Gronk and Hernandez combined for 87 completions, 1109 yards, and 16 TDs.
Your guys (OD, Dressen, and I will throw in Casey) combined for 82 completions, 1087 yards, and 6 TDs.
Now I’m no mathematician, but the NE guys put up better numbers in every category, and blew the Texans guys away in TDs.
You can claim the injures to Daniels slowed him down, which is fair, but you have to factor in injures because it is a reality of the game. There is also the fact that the NE guys did that in their rookie years, which is incredibly impressive.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
You find that
when your RB leads the league in TD’s it tends to take them away from everyone else.
by Bobbythegreat on Sep 15, 2011 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
is that supposed to be a rebuttal?
we were not talking about the rushing game, but the role of TEs.
This is why I have been getting frustrated with you guys, whenever something just doesn’t go your way you just completely change the rules of the game.
In a prior post I said that the NE system makes their TEs better. That was still taken as a slight against the Texans TEs, but now you use the excuse of the rushing attack. By your argument you must concede that the NE TE corps is superior to the Texan’s.
You guys really need to learn the rules of a discussion.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
I think the difference is in how we're thinking about the discussion
You’re saying that the New England TE’s have better statistics. And you bring up the stats that bear that out.
I think that the original argument was that Houston’s TE’s are as good as New England’s. The easiest way to show that (although it’s not definitive) is to reference stats. When those stats don’t support that argument, we’ve provided an explanation for why the Houston TE’s have fewer touchdowns.
So to recap, both Houston and New England have good TE’s. In terms of yards and catches, they are very statistically similar. If you know of a way to compare how good they are at running routes or blocking, we can compare those as well. Absent that, it seems to be the Texans’ fan position that our TE’s are very good despite not getting as much national attention as Gronkowski and/or Hernandez, and that it is an area that will cause issues for the Dolphins defense.
by Tailgate Andy on Sep 15, 2011 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually what he said is relevant. You're the one getting worked up.
If someone else is hogging the TD’s, and it just so happened to be our RB then your other players don’t get as many.
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Apparently NE TE stats are inflated
based on playing Miami twice a year. :P
you can file this under
trolling for phish
Added side note
I know it doesn’t have anything to do with the TE discussion but it seemed like as good a place as any to point it out.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Oh also,
The texans rushing attack notched 20 rushing TDs last year. NE totaled 19.
Marginally, Texans 20 + 6 = 26. NE 19 + 16 = 35. Even factoring the running game that still puts the Texans at -9 to the Pats. I really dont see your point.
Landry Jonesing
Jared Allen has nightmares of Jake Long.
Ph.D. in Applied Jest Statistics.
The texans RBs accounted for 45 percent of the teams TDs
the NE RBs accounted for 33 percent. You guys really need to learn the rules of logic.
and yes NE scored a ton more points then us
and every other team on the planet. They also had the luxury of not having one of the worst defenses of all time and special teams that didn’t blow, which helps a ton when it comes to field position, which I’ve heard is useful when trying to score points.
Why would we go to our TEs in the end zone
when we had the best running back in the league? That is far from damning. Seriously, why when you have the best RB in the league and one of the best run blocking lines in the league would you take the risk of putting it in the air? When it comes to Daniels, I might not have mentioned it, but he is healthy now, and looks like he is ready to get back to where he was in 2009(when he was the best TE in the league before injuring himself, leading all TEs in TDs and yars IIRC)
Let's also not forget that TDs are one of the most volatile stats year-to-year.
They are questionable at best when making comparisons like this.
Regardless, it actually is silly for us to expect them to know our quality at TE, especially with OD’s injury.
At the same time, summarily dismissing our arguments when we try to bring attention to just how good our TEs are is just asking for an impassioned response. As I said above, people here tend to get defensive when the offensive prowess of this team is questioned considering the track record.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
How many TEs do you guys expect to put on the field at one time??
I don’t care how good your TEs are, in order to get to the 3rd TE you have to either take one of your other TEs out, or you are taking WRs off the field to bring in TEs. I mean, if you guys want to bring out 4 TEs and put Andre Johnson on the sideline.. that would be OK with me. Don’t expect me to lose sleep over that scenario though… just saying…
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Well let's see
Winston used to be a TE, Duane Brown used to be a TE, We have Daniels & Dreesen at TE, Casey is at FB but he’s a converted TE & could still line up at TE, Andre Johnson is as big as a TE, Connor Barwin used to be a TE, etc……
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 18, 2011 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
puns are always in the threads
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 15, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep, not cool.
People in the library saw this and now thinks that I’m a perv.
I mean, maybe I am a perv. But I didn’t want them to find out this way!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Sep 15, 2011 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I have to agree
the best perversions are kept behind closed doors. This is just asking for trouble.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
It happens a lot here.
I’m sorry, BruceStrange. These boys get that syrup in ’em, they get all antsy in their pantsy.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
LMFAO
(… at the fact you think I my real name was actually Bruce…)
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I think that was a Super Troopers reference...
What’s wrong with Bruce as someone’s name?
by Tailgate Andy on Sep 15, 2011 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I admit to missing the super troopers reference (although I love the movie)
but I was actually making a much much wierder joke in response
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
I like this guy
He gets me.
I saw that you missed the reference but understood the strange underlining.
@Andy: License and Registration. Chicken Fucker!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
True story
I almost died laughing at the bearfucker scene
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!
"maybe I am a perv"
Yeah, and MAYBE the sun came up in the East today, maybe the sky is blue, and maybe Andre Johnson is the best WR in football.
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...and MAYBE cat tastes like chicken...
…or so I hear…
/burp
/muffled “meow”
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
Like Chicken?
I thought that was frog that tasted like chicken!
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
FTFY
Andre Johnson Larry Fitzgerald is the best WR in football
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
FTFY
Andre Johnson Larry Fitzgerald Calvin Johnson is the best WR in Football.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
/Andre'd
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 15, 2011 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
If you HAVE to get busted for a pic...
This one is a pretty good one to use.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Let’s leave all the football talk to knowledgeable experts who have played the game, like Matt Millen and Emmitt Smith."
-tehGrindCrusher
I'd prefer a Mila Kunis picture
or a Christina Hendricks one.
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
+1 for Mila Kunis.
Yum.
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Did someone say Christina Hendricks?


Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions
You should be more concerned
with people spotting you in an actual library.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
What do you mean?
think you are a perv?
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 16, 2011 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Late to the party, but I have a couple of questions for any Dolphins fans still nearby
Watching the game Monday night, there was talk of the Dolphins’ offense shifting from being run-oriented to pass-oriented. The acquisition of Reggie Bush as an every down back seems to be an overt vote of confidence for Chad Henne as well. Knowing that a) the Texans defense was mind-numbingly shitty against the pass last year, and b) Phillips’ 3-4 is known to be weak at stopping the run between the tackles, how would you expect the Dolphins offense to come out against the Texans? Balanced attack or will they lean more heavily toward one or the other? What would you prefer to see?
Also, the opposite question, Miami’s defense last year was pretty stout against both the run and the pass according to the rankings. What do you see as the “Achilles heel” if applicable, or what weaknesses if any, should the Texans offense be looking to exploit?
Finally, thanks for coming by and talking football with us, even if it seems to have devolved into an argument about who’s going to win and why. I’ll stop by the other thread as well, but not sure if I’ll be able to post, I had that issue on another SB Nation site.
Well, in my opinion,
I think that they will try and come out with a more balanced attack. Personally, I would prefer them to pass a little more and make more use of Brandon Marshall and Davone Bess. As for running the ball, if they were going to run it in between the tackles, I would prefer them to give the ball to either Lex Hilliard or Larry Johnson in those situations, as they are the power runners. Bush should be used for sweeps and pitches to the outside and as a receiver to let him get into space where he is the most dangerous.
Easily the biggest weakness on the Dolphins defense is going to be covering TEs and RBs going over the middle. That has been a glaring weakness for a few years and as New England proved, still has not been fixed. I fully expect Owen Daniels to have a big day.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 15, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
thanks for the response
The Texans offense relies heavily on the TE’s and RB’s in the passing game, and is quite effective at it, so it may be a long day for you guys if that’s the case.
I know it was preseason, but Reggie Bush ran between the tackles very effectively on us just over a year ago. It’s all in the play design. He’ll never be a power back, nor an every down back, but he’s got the speed to get through a hole quickly if one exists, so don’t completely count him out between the tackles, especially against the Texans.
While I recognize that any NFL team can be dangerous, and any given sunday, and blah blah, but I honestly think last year’s atrocious Texans D could have still shut down the Collins-led Colts we saw last week. With that said, this week will be the first time we’re seeing our new D against a real opponent in a real game, so it should be an interesting game overall, with lots of unknowns going in. Hope you guys have an injury-free game this week, and may you finish 14-2 after an 0-2 start!
P.S. f*** the Patriots AND the Jets
what jbal said
our RBs and TEs combined for over 1500 yards of passing yards last year, and now we are using our FB even more in the passing game on top of it.
The real question mark to me
isn’t whether the Texans will score points, I feel they can put up points on any defense on the league, but how will our defense hold up against your offense. Our D is super unproven, and I don’t know what to expect from your offense.
by nolander on Sep 15, 2011 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well, I won't re-hash the running
game as that has been talked about quite a bit in here already. The only thing that I will mention is that we haven’t really seen much of what Daniel Thomas can do or what (if anything) Larry Johnson has left.
As far as the rest of the offense, there is obviously Brandon Marshall who can be a handful for any corner. He and Henne have been working this offseason on their communication and getting on the same page, and they had a pretty good showing of it last Monday. Despite a couple of drops in the end zone, he still finished with 138 yards.
There is also Davone Bess who is a very reliable and shifty slot receiver. He has tended to be Henne’s go to guy on 3rd downs because of his reliable hands and ability to get the first down. Also across from Marshall is Brian Hartline, who while not spectacular is a pretty solid possession guy. And there is also Clyde Gates. He’s a rookie who we drafted in the 4th round who runs a 4.3 40. He is still a little raw and needs to develop more chemistry with Henne, but so far he has been able to get behind defenders in the secondary pretty easily and could be a big threat if he starts catching more passes.
Aside from that we also have Anthony Fasano at TE, but a lot of the time he is used as a blocker because he is very good at it. But he had a good game on Monday and can put up some good numbers if you discount him.
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Who is your #2?
J Joseph is good and I think will not get beat like a drum I HOPE by B Marshall, but our #2 situation is… icky. I might actually have more faith in our #3s then our #2s.
Officially,
Brian Hartline is listed as #2 on the depth chart. But you will fairly often also see Bess or Gates lining up across from Marshall.
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Bess is way better than Hartline
They should give that dude the rock more often IMO
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
Except Daboll aparently doesn't think so.
Bess only had 3 targets and 2 catches before the 99 yard pass to Welker. It is something to monitor, but he might be getting phased out of the regular O and relegated to a specific role, which makes sense because he’s a role player.
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I think you guys try
and have success using D Thomas up the middle. i think thats our defenses biggest weakness now.
Yup...
MOAR PLANETOIDS!!!
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- MDC
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I think it will depend on how much of a pass rush we get
I think you could describe our (Wade’s) defensive strategy as more of a gambling defense. If we get a good rush consistently, I think we will make big plays. If not, I think we will be prone to giving up big plays. That is what I think will make the game on Sunday interesting. And even though this defense is new for the Texans, Wadehas been running it a long, long time. I think the big questions for the Texans are:
1) Has the team had enough time to fully assimilate the system
2) Do we have the correct personnel to run it
The Texans made a big effort in the draft and free agency to address #2. Only time will tell how good a job they did.
conditioning.... plain and simple...
Also our 3rd and 4th CBs can be taken advantage of. Actually Benny Sapp was our 3rd CB and he is gone now in favor of Will Allen. I thought we should have kept him to begin with but I guess they were worried about his injuries and age. All that was trumped when Sapp sucked. Listening to Miami radio the next day there were tons of puns about how Wes Welker was seen running on I-95 and Sapp was 2 hours behind him, or that he was stiff armed by a girl scout selling cookies ….etc….
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Also ... Cameron Wake doesn't get to the QB too well if you consistently hold him on every play... or tackle him..
Watch the broadcast… especially when Gruden stopped going down on Tom Brady long enough to talk about how well Nate Solder had been doing blocking Wake. How did Solder only get called once for holding??
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 15, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
probably .. but...
They are not likely to give the Texans the same love as they did the Patriots… so they might get more holding calls if they decide they want to hold all game long. The national media does not have quite the same love affair for the Texans that they do for the Patriots.
And Gisele Bundchen better keep an eye on Jon Gruden, he would definitely go down on Brady if given the opportunity…
Prove everyone that said you weren't a franchise QB wrong, Henne. "WE WANT HENNE!!" GO PHINS!! What can I say I am a homer, I have come to terms with that and accepted it. I predict 10-6 and a wildcard berth. Jets got worse this year when they lost Ellis to the Patriots. The Patriots are going to be more solid on defense this year than they have in the past.
by Jason Scott_90 on Sep 18, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, then they will get burned again
You can’t get into shape with 3 practices
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 15, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Why is it that whenever we ddo these question topics
the ones here are always big and us asking a lot of questions and really learning about the other team and the ones on other teams blogs are always small.
I have noticed this several times. I think it’s partly because not a lot of us go over there and no one wants to learn about us.
.................
It's genetic
Ours will always be bigger than theirs. Not nice to bring it up though
TWSS
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 15, 2011 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Could this happen this weekend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKNyfEZh1Mk&feature=player_profilepage
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Wow there a lot of comments that got rec'd
phin_fan is my old account
Fantasy Football Name: Henne Given Sunday
by southfloridamammalsfan on Sep 15, 2011 6:37 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
wouldnt be shocked my comment gets rec'd lol
phin_fan is my old account
Fantasy Football Name: Henne Given Sunday
by southfloridamammalsfan on Sep 15, 2011 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec'd!
We’re broken rec-whores over here. When chupa introduce the term “goo” to us, it became a permanent part of our vocabulary
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
LOL, glad to be remembered for something.
In fact, our new head writer over at the Phinsider is the official Keeper of the Goo Cannon, where the whole thing originated from.
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by Chupathingy on Sep 15, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like Schaub, he doesnt get media attention
That might not be a bad thing though, he can fly under the radar. This guy however….

How he is a starting QB is beyond me
phin_fan is my old account
Fantasy Football Name: Henne Given Sunday
by southfloridamammalsfan on Sep 15, 2011 6:47 PM CDT reply actions
....i had a vision from God to do it.
phin_fan is my old account
Fantasy Football Name: Henne Given Sunday
by southfloridamammalsfan on Sep 15, 2011 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Since you did that, I feel the need to do this

Too much????
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Have to be careful
Don’t want to get Tim’s banhammer hand itchy
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
haha you guys call it ban hammer too?
"My name is Inigo Montoya, you killed my father, prepare to die."
Ain't it called a ban hammer everywhere?
However Tim is pretty benevolent and rarely uses it. He had to use it 3 times this month, & those are the only times I can remember him ever using it. You really have to go over the deep end to get banned here, unlike some other site which we aren’t allowed to mention run by he-who’s-name-shall-not-be-spoken. But I think I’m safe. He wouldn’t ban his Madden champ now, would he? He wouldn’t, wouldn’t he????
/looks for Kevlar helmet & braces for impact
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 15, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
REC'D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is that Jenn Sterger on the bottom?
She’s the only Jet I ever liked.
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Naw,
they are all of Inez Sainz, or however you spell her name.
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Close
Ines Sainz
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 18, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
My opinion:
Your Rushing Attack vs. our front 7: Our LBers should bounce back from last weeks tackling debacle and our DL should play much better on a whole. We should limit Foster because there will be no holes to run through. Our both of our ILBs led
Johnson vs. Smith: Last matchup, Smith got the better of Johnson; limiting Johnson went 3 for 40. But that was only some of the snaps in the 1st half and the 2nd half and Johnson is still Johnson.
Davis vs. Jones: Davis was picked on by Brady until he got cramps. He didn’t allow many completions, but it is something us Phinphans will be monitoring. Jones isn’t that good of a WR, so Davis should be able to almost completely shut him down.
Daniels vs. Dansby: If Bell is on Daniels, this is something Shaub will know to exploit, but I expect Dansby to be on him most of the game. Dansby is our space-eating ILBer and does very well against athletic TEs. Last week was the worst performance he’s ever had as a Dolphin, he had 4+ missed tackles. He is also the most likely defensive player to bounce back from that defensive showing because of last year’s dominance.
Your Other TEs vs. Burnett and Bell: Burnett struggled last game and we don’t know if he will improve. He might have been a one year wonder, or it could have been a bad day. Bell struggles in coverage and I hope we blitz him a lot or put him in zone. Both of these he excels in.
Your OL vs. our pass rush. If Wake returns to form and generates a pass rush or if have to you triple team him; we will be able to dominate in the trenches a game long. Our DL are very good when isolated and Bell and Allen are good blitzers. I personally don’t know if Wake will though.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Hit the post button too soon.
Our rushing attack vs. your front 7: We are getting our bruising RB, Daniel Thomas, back and from comments; it seems like your D is weak up the middle. Our OC will probably take advantage of that. Also, Bush has been running hard while in MIA and so far, if he gets a hole, he’ll give us 10+ yards.
Marshall vs. Joesph: This will be an interesting battle, as I don’t know much about Joesph. Marshall had a field day last monday against a more talented pro bowl CB in McCourtny. Pretty sure he’ll add to that tomorrow.
Hartline vs. Allen: Hartline is the most underrated Dolphin and should win this matchup. Also, watch for Hartline to beat Allen deep. Hartline has the nose for the big play. Hartline is a jack off all trades and will see plenty of ball thrown his way.
Bess vs. Jackson: Bess didn’t see many targets until late in the 4th QTR last game. He might be getting phased out of the O with the edition of Bush and emergence of Hartline. Still, Bess will win this matchup; as good as he is.
Fasano vs. ILBer: From comments your ILBers leave something a lot to be desired. Good thing for you, Fasano is a better blocker than receiver and will be double teaming Williams when Williams is on the right side. Fasano is a good route runner and has very good hands. He is just slower than molasses.
Our other TEs vs. your ILB/S: Clay has impressed all TC long and was frequently beating just about everyone that was put across from him. We are getting him back from injury. I want to see him a lot tomorrow; he has the potential to be as good as Clark. He is nopt a good blocker though. He might do well considering your ILB situation. Yeatman and Shuler (?) will not see significant PT.
Gates vs Texans CB: We are 6 deep at the WR position and I think this game will show it. We should spread the ball out with 5 wide and pick on the Texan’s CB depth deficiencies.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, L. Sheppard, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
You forgot to factor in Casey
Since Walter won’t be playing, expect more 1WR 2TE 2RB sets with Casey motioning everywhere & anywhere, giving 3TE looks at times. I can’t see either of your starting CBs matching up well with our TEs. Also Foster & Tate will factor into the passing game as well, so you have to worry about them coming out of backfield catching passes, not to mention how susceptible your defense is to biting on play action
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 17, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Has Casey progressed a lot? he has been almost no existent in you O so far.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Because he's been buried on the depth chart behind Dreesen & Daniels
Not to mention we had Vonta Leach at FB
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Sep 18, 2011 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
PA? I don't think we will because I think our front 7 will do well against the run.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
Davis or Smith on a TE is not a problem at all.
Especially since Sean Smith is the tallest CB in the NFL, there isn’t a size disadvantage. Since Casey is a weak blocker, Miami could easily bring in Will Allen for a nickel package as well. Both Vontae Davis and Will Allen are very solid run support CBs. I don’t see a nickel package against that set as detrimental to Miami’s defense.
- Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead.
- Defeat isn't bitter if you don't swallow it.
Damn, no replies.
The choices you make dictate the life you lead. -Greydanus. Two roads diverged in a wood, and I - I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference. - Robert Frost. Leading the fighter escort of SU-47s for the Lindley Bandwagon. Leader and Founder of the Ray Ray Armstrong for 2012 Bandwagon "pm striker king"- WZB. Good, cheap FA upgrades out there: Gurode, E. Royster, J. KirkPatrick, K. O'Dowd, D. Thomas. Dolphins not pulling their weight: J. Jerry, I. Alama-Francis, M. Columbo.
I just want to thank the classy fans here for friendly articulate conversation
(those who lacked class on both sides… meh..)
The game is fun for me because of comradarie and good conversation. There are some hilarious people over here, and I had a good time, more on our site than here, but still.
Thanks to the classy and funny texans fans. Good luck this season.
"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!

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