Your Week Two Red Zone Review of Epic Comcastiness: Houston Texans v. Miami Dolphins
by UprootedTexan on Sep 19, 2011 6:01 AM CDT
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PrintThat's right, boys and girls, it's another edition of the Red Zone Review. In this week's episode we...review the Texans' performance in the red zone. Novel idea, ain't it?
But before that, an aside.
In all honesty, Comcast and I haven't always been on the greatest of terms. Not that anybody would go skipping merrily through the park with their local cable provider, tossing flowers as they go off and have a lovely picnic lunch with them or something. At our household we have...well...issues with them. I won't go into detail because it's really not relevant here.
But every week during football season, since I don't get to watch the Texans from the comfort (and soundproofing) of my own home, my wife and I go out to a sports bar to watch football. This bar uses DirecTV to show every game; and normally we don't have any issues with it. But last week, the opening weekend of football season, when you would expect a major (I'm assuming) outfit like DirecTV to have their (expletive) together, it basically wet the bed. Nationally, every single game would play for the same amount of time as the average IQ of a Jersey Shore cast member (30 seconds) before freezing again. Once it froze, each receiver took forever to reload, only to have it freeze again after another 30 seconds. This little exercise in fun and futility lasted until about the middle of the third quarter, once the Texans had the game against the Colts pretty much in hand.
So, as you can imagine, I was fully prepared to do untold, horrifically-painful things to anybody remotely involved with DirecTV using nothing more than a sharpened number two pencil by that point. And then it dawned on me. "UT," I said to myself, because calling myself that publicly would be weird, "you're lucky you have Comcast, which has yet to make you want to excruciating things to people involving school supplies." To which I said, because it would be rude to not respond, "True."
Okay, enough about that, let's look at the red zone stuff. That'll put some smiles on some faces!
1st Quarter
First Red Zone Appearance
After a beautiful 31 yard pass to Jacoby Jones, the Texans were set up nicely to score on their first possession of the game from the Dolphins' eight-yard line. Texans running back Arian Foster, fresh off of returning from an injured hamstring, was determined to make his presence felt today against the Dolphins. He got the handoff from Schaub and swept right until he was pushed out of bounds by Karlos Dansby for a gain of three yards.
On second and goal at the five-yard line, Kubiak calls Foster's name again, this time on a run outside the left tackle. Unfortunately, it's not as effective as he's stopped for no gain, again by Karlos Dansby...curse you Karlos Dansby!
Now it's third and goal, again at the five, Schaub goes back to pass, but the Texans' stellar pass blocking decides it wasn't in the mood to block right then and lets about 72 defenders through to pulverize Schaub. Schaub throws the ball away incomplete.
With fourth and goal, and still five yards away, Kubiak calls in Neil Rackers to kick a 23 yard field goal, which is good after a ricochet off the right upright.
Time Spent in Red Zone: 1:19
End Result: Field Goal
Score: Houston 3 - Miami 0
Second Red Zone Appearance
We return to the red zone, in really short order, about 1:21 after their last appearance, with a pass to Andre Johnson to get them to the Dolphins' 12-yard line and 8:37 left on the clock.
First and 10 at the 12-yard line, Matt Schaub throws a pass which is just off the hands of tight end Owen Daniels and goes incomplete.
It's second and 10, again at the 12, and the Texans are in shotgun formation. Schaub snaps the ball and hands off to Foster who gains six yards after shooting the gap off the right guard's side and is stopped by Ryan Baker.
Third down sees the Texans at the Dolphins' four-yard line and gains a couple of hard-fought yards until he's brought down by Jason Taylor and Yeremiah Bell.
On fourth down, Rackers comes in to kick a 22-yard field goal, putting the Texans up by six.
Time Spent in Red Zone: 1:33
End Result: Field Goal
Score: Houston 6 - Miami 0
2nd Quarter
Third Red Zone Appearance
The defense stepped up when newly-acquired free agent Johnathan Joseph intercepts a poorly-thrown Chad Henne pass at the nine-yard line and returns it to the Dophins six-yard line.
The Texans have a first and goal at the Dolphins' six when Foster takes it to the left off Daniels' side for a couple of yards and brought down by Randy Starks.
With second and goal at the four-yard line, Schaub tosses the ball to Owen Daniels in the end zone for a touchdown!
Time Spent in Red Zone: :44
End Result: Touchdown!
Score: Houston 13 - Miami 3
Fourth Red Zone Appearance
The Texans wouldn't return to the red zone until near the end of the half, when Schaub threw a pretty pass to Joel Dreessen for a nine-yard gain, which landed them at the Dolphins' 15-yard line.
Ben Tate, who came in relief of Foster who reaggravated his hamstring, ran for four yards to the 11 where he was brought down by Karlos Dansby, giving the Texans another first down.
On first and 10, Schaub completed a pass to Andre Johnson which gained all of one yard. He was brought down by Vontae Davis and Jason Taylor.
At second and nine, Schaub passed again, this time to Ben Tate who is brought down behind the line of scrimmage for a loss of three yards.
It was third and 12 at the Dolphins' 13 when Schaub was sacked for a loss of five yards by Cameron Wake.
With time running down and the Texans at fourth and 17 on the 18-yard line, Rackers lined up to successfully kick a 36-yard field goal.
Time Spent in Red Zone: 1:49
End Result: Field Goal
Score: Houston 16 - Miami 3
4th Quarter
Fifth Red Zone Appearance
Once again, the Texans' defense stepped up and forced a turnover on downs, landing the Texans at the Dolphins' 11 with just over two minutes to go.
This series was the Ben Tate show, with first and 10, Ben Tate took the ball off the right guard's side for a gain of a yard.
Then it was second and nine as Tate carried again, this time for a seven-yard gain to the Dolphins' three.
Third down had the Texans needing two yards to get the first down and end the game once and for all. Ben Tate took the ball again off the right guard's side for a gain of one.
Finally it was fourth down with one yard to go. All they needed was a first down, and a single yard to pull it off. Tate runs the ball left and gains that one crucial yard to get the first down.
On first and 10, Matt Schaub takes a knee and loses a yard, but ends the game with a Texans victory!
Time Spent in Red Zone: 2:04
End Result: No score
Score: Houston 23 - Miami 13
Final Results
Number of Trips in Red Zone: 5
Total Amount of Time in Red Zone: 7:29
Average Amount of Time in Red Zone: 1:29
Red Zone Efficiency: 4/5 (80%)
Scores in Red Zone: 2 TD (Daniels, A. Johnson) 3 FG (22, 23, 36)
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Only 4/5? Losers!
But really I’d gladly sacrifice one red zone appearance each week if it meant Schaub kneels it for the victory. (Even if getting that last score would have been great for my fantasy team).
you sick twisted little man
No one cares about ur pro football team! Wait, what…
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Sep 19, 2011 8:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
If you throw out the last drive, when we didn't try to get in
It seems like we weren’t 100%. I mean, a field goal gets you on the board, but it’s still a little like kissing your sister. I kind of like the idea of doing a Red Zone efficiency against possible points. So 4 trips to the Red Zone could have produced 24 points (minus extra points), and we totaled 12 points (again, ignoring the PAT), so our Red Zone efficiency would be 50%.
Does that seem more accurate or is now a good time to shutup?
Now FGs aren't good enough
We are getting spoiled! We are now Patriot fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I don't want to sound ungrateful for the points.
If we score 3 points, and it is enough for the win, I’m happy.
by BrownCrayon on Sep 19, 2011 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
That definitely seems like a better definition of efficiency
Fortunately, it’s not too hard to calculate yourself once he’s laid it all out for us.
Not sure I’d exclude extra points though, I feel like that would still weight FGs too highly, since the extra point is almost guaranteed. Generally, it’s better to score a TD than two FGs, so I think you should include the point after in the calculation.
by ChrisZ on Sep 19, 2011 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What about 2-pt conversions?
Then you would have to calculate it out of 8 points per trip to the Red Zone, and since going for two only happens situationally, it would skew the percentage. What if we went beast mode and dropped 42 points on someone, all TD + PAT, then your Red Zone Efficiency would only be 87.5%? That doesn’t seem very accurate since we went nuts on the other team.
by BrownCrayon on Sep 19, 2011 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
O_o
Schaub goes back to pass, but the Texans’ stellar pass defense decides it wasn’t in the mood to block right then and lets about
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-Catch 22-
He had 2010 Texans Defense on the mind
Or maybe he was trying to blame Cody for teh Schaub getting sacked.
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 19, 2011 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
he meant the oline I'm sure
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by Carter Liles on Sep 19, 2011 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions
Oops, I meant pass blocking.
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by UprootedTexan on Sep 19, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I know, UT
I was just messing with ya. But at least you know that I read the whole post now and not just the tags(I find your lack of tags disturbing).
Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
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-Catch 22-
Math?
5 appearances in the red zone. 4/5 scores. 2 TDs and 3 FGs. Something doesn’t add up here…
Big T33 is right
it should be 1 TD and 3 FGs, 2 TDs and 3 FGs would have made us 5/5 in Red Zone. Andre’s TD should not be counted for this purpose as it was not from Red Zone.
DirecTV
The problems week one must have been Sunday Ticket only. I have DirecTV and had absolutely no problems with the “local” broadcast.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 19, 2011 9:46 AM CDT reply actions
I had no issues with DirecTV local either
Didn’t watch any Sunday Ticket games week one, but it worked fine week 2.
It was Sunday Ticket related.
My broadcast was fine….so long as I kept it on the local channel. The first and second times I switched over to the “free” Sunday Ticket preview resulted in much wailing, gnashing of teeth, and curses upon DirecTV while my receiver reset.
I figured it out after the second receiver reset…and the 20 minutes of lost game time.
I was at a sports bar
and pissed off at sunday ticket because the local games were working and my texans were rocking. I didnt get to see any of the points from week 1 because of it!
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
I had satellite reception issues
but I won’t complain. I got rain – it was worth it.
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 19, 2011 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I was on the road during the game
but I was lucky enough to find a radio station that had the game on. However, I admit I didn’t “see” anything. But it seemed to me that the Dolphins D tightened up a little from the New England game and came to play a little, and it seemed that the air kind of went out of them a little after Andre caught that TD that salted the game away. We started running the ball a lot more freely after that and ran the clock down.
When Andre caught the TD I started freaking out in the car, slamming the horn, started swerving a bit…i’m sure the few peeps around thought I was having a seizure or something. It was epic.
Go Texans!!
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"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
Yep
Their d-line espcially came to play, and they did some nice blitzing. Schaub’s comfort level back there is gonna get him killed if another team gets after him like Miami did. By no means do I wanna go back to David Carr-like nervousness, but he’s gotta feel that pressure quicker.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
Pumped about the win
But slightly more concerned about our team than I was last week. Run D looks to be a problem (which was known) and our pass blocking is beginning to concern me as well. There is no doubt the Dolphin’s D came out there with something to prove and played much better, but Brady had time to sit down and eat a sandwhich last week while Schaub was getting pretty consistent pressure all game long. Also, while Tate looked good again, he is no Foster. I am becoming really concerned now that his hammy is going to be a nagging issue for the entire year. Anyhow, not trying to be Debbie Downer here, just getting some stuff off my chest.
Also
JJo getting injured scares me to death after watching Allen/KJax out there while he was out yesterday. This is not really a new development, but it was definitely enforced yesterday.
True, but...
I thought KJax played well. The PI was tough, but it wasn’t as bad as the announcers claimed. Other than that, I was very pleased with Kareem, though I’m sure I’ll be called a blind idiot because kjax bashing is yet another dead horse here for those with itchy triggers.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
He did play well
and he deserves the Kudos. No matter how “flagrant” the PI was, it was a smart move and possibly saved a TD. There is nothing wrong with an intentional PI if it prevents a score.
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 19, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't think it was flagrant at all.
Every CB grabs a little shirt, and he did it so quickly that there’s always a chance the ref misses it. He still tipped the ball too, so that was nice to see. Overall, I’ve got no problem with that play, except that the ref saw the slight tug.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
If that's a PI
….then they can go ahead and call PI on most of the pass plays around the league. The call wasn’t technically wrong. He put his hand on him and may have had a handfull of jersey, but that’s one of those things that happens a lot without being called. Like holding.
I was more excited to see Jackson stay with a speedy WR on a deep route and make a nice play on the ball. I call that progress, even if he gave a little tug at the jersey.
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I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
So, you're saying people actually use their EYES to evaluate games now...
And not just what other commentors say?? Well, I’ll be dipped in shit…
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
KJ stll lacks the speed to cover fast WRs
He has a long way to go. I haven’t given up on him, however I don’t think he has ever played well enough to validate his round 1 pick, and I am in doubt that he ever will. He doesn’t possess the skill to be a good cover corner, but he could develop those skills over time. Right now, he is only getting time on the field because there is no one other than Joseph who is clearly better. It is a weakness of this team.
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He stayed with Gates pretty good
Of course that was the PI call, but that’s a 4.3 guy. His technique has to be great, but he has the athletic ability to be a good corner. He just doesn’t have a big margin of error.
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64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
He is light years ahead of where he was a year ago; I will say that
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
You also...
Have no clue what you’re talking about, so I take your opinion with a grain of petrified shit.
Bacon tastes good... Pork chops taste good.
I'm just saying.
All I have seen since Miami and Indy is people saying that he looks better than he did last year.
.................
Oh, dang, just saw your comment after I said basically the same
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
JJo's injury concerns me as well.
We looked like a different D without him out there. Could just be coincidental…but I suspect not. They really picked on #30 in his absence.
Yeah Jason Allen was giving Marshall a huge cushion and they took advantage of it.
Somebody got in his ear after he gave up that TD and told him to tuck his jersey in and get up on Marsahll.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Trent Dilfer just said we're a 13-3 team.
On Colin Cowherd.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
I'm as optimistic as the next guy...
but that’s a bit ambitious.
Talent wise maybe.
And if the defense is going to hold teams under 20 I could see that but I’m sticking with 11-5.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Complainers will complain
But the team looked good. Were there problems and issues? Yes
The team won when things weren’t going well. Just let that sink in.
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 19, 2011 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
dead on ^^
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This wasn't a response to you or anyone in particular
I have concerns too. It is when people have the unfounded complaints. Some even found a way to complain about teh Schaub’s perfect bomb to AJ.
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 19, 2011 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions
First time I can remember watching a Texans game at home quietly and not getting upset or worried about the outcome, even during the 3rd qtr. Well, those consecutive sacks on Schaub elicited a $%^#*, but that was it.
The team won when things weren’t going well. Just let that sink in.
Not that the ‘fins are a really lousy team but when you can say that after a N.O., Pitt, or Bal game then I think we can say we definitely turned the corner on let downs and lapses and beat a good team in the crunch. That’s when it will sink in for me and I will be waiting for my playoff tix invoice. Hallelujah!
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Does ben tate remind anyone of julius from “remember the titans”?
by Hstntxns on Sep 19, 2011 10:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I know this is about the Red Zone offense, but...
This was just too cool not to post somewhere.
by Mike Kerns on Sep 19, 2011 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 5 recs
awesome!!!!!
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
by Carter Liles on Sep 19, 2011 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Nice!
Lets relish in this accomplishment until we face Drew Breeeees!
I’m quite sure those totals are due to rise. But we have only allowed 20 points in two games. Also, best in the league. It doesn’t matter who you faced, That is an accomplishment in itself. Not to mention last year’s defense..
by TexansPride on Sep 19, 2011 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
the scary thing on this list...
Tennessee 3rd in defense 4th in pass D. Jax 4th in rushing D…
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by Carter Liles on Sep 19, 2011 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
#1 D in the league?
Have we ever ben able to say that at any point ever?
by BricAM on Sep 19, 2011 11:32 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Those are cool but I put little faith in the statistical rankings.
At LEAST 4 weeks for me until I think they truly represent a team. But the early signs are encouraging.
Just look at the offensive rankings right now.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
After that 3rd and 1 pass to ANDRE JOHNSON
I don’t ever want to hear Kubiak called conservative again!!!
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
That was epic.
Denver-style. I remember when he used to let Plummer air it out in those situations… Nerve-wracking as hell, but so satisfying when it works.
by Nashmeister on Sep 19, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I saw a lot of schaub hate
on twitter? though hasselbeck had the better QBR (Tony Romo is the top in the league if that doesn’t make you go WTF? I dont know what does) Schaub has the better Passer Rating. I enjoyed this game, and I thought kneeling on the one was classy though I would have gone for it just to say maybe next time Miami.
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God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
At that point
You know someone would have been injured, probably in a position we may be a tad thin in at the moment.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 19, 2011 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it is better than the traditional QB rating
…but it is still flawed. Like any other stat is just one tool, or piece of the puzzle.
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I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
who gives a honey badger shit about QBR
The only rating I need is the eye ball rating. Schaub played well with the protection issues he was given yesterday. No issues with him whatsoever in my eyes.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
QBR also doesn't deliver what it's supposed to
Receiver drops a pass or tips it for an INT? Still counts. Yards after the catch? Still counts.
Etc, etc, etc
"Lord, beer me strength."
QBR rating.
Not sure how Hasselbeck was so far and away better than Schaub. Must have been the sacks the Dolphins got.
But it has to be noted the Dolphins defense was better than the Ravens defense in many categories last year. And that Ravens secondary is young and will get exploited. Their #1 pick at CB was hurt in that game to.
Of course QBR doesn’t really account for that.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I agree,
I was making the point that QBR is crap,
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
The Texans fumble and the Dolphins return it for a TD
They do an onside kick and kick a FG to tie the game. The game goes into OT and the Dolphins win the toss and score on their first possession and win the game.
Now do you want to go for it?
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
The thing is, we don't know anything about QBR.
We know in general what it’s meant to measure, but not specifically how. Until we do, there’s no way it can be used as a legitimate tool for comparison.
Passer rating is flawed, yes, but at least we know how it’s flawed because we know the formula. Until ESPN decides to release the QBR formula, I can’t really see anyone buying it as anything more than a gimmick.
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serious question...
after seeing that Ben tate is effective, would it be crazy to cut/trade foster next year?
OFFICIAL MARIO WILLIAMS 2011 SACK COUNT; (2)
yes,
I say we hold on to both. Tate’s contract is not too hefty why not hold on to both, trade slaton for a 4-6 rnd pick. maybe release ward.
"Taco Joe - the beacon of optimism" TexansDC
"Great, you've doomed us all!" - UprootedTexan
God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
"Cut"ting Foster would be a move of Jerruh Jonesian dumbass
Getting a Herschel Walker-esque trade, however… might be worth considering.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Because this is a blog and I’m an argumentative bastard." - tehGrindCrusher
I was only around 10-11 at the time of that trade
But everyone, and I mean everyone, hated Jerruh for that. It wound up being brilliant. And no one ever really liked Jerruh (I assume this is still true to some extent) even after the Super Bowls, probably a lot of which was due to the way he canned Landry.
I used to think I knew what fan hate for the owner was like, then I moved here and saw the high esteem in which people hold Adams.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 19, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
The Walker trade was more Jimmy than Jerruh.
Alcohol is necessary so that a man can have a good opinion of himself, undisturbed by the facts.
They were pretty much considered the same person at the time.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 19, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
But the subsequent fortunes of the team...
…have pretty much dispelled ANY confusion about that point.
Johnson = brains
Jerruh = pocketbook
The Walker trade was Jimmy Johnson all the way all day.
Jerruh is a boob.
Separate and apart from the fact that he is a boob is that he is a snake, as evidenced by the aforementioned handling of the firing of a man of dignity, courage, and intellect that had built the Southern Oklahoma team into the commodity that Jerruh has exploited for his own ego’s sake.
"Suck it, Jim Tressel, you filthy, cheating, unfashionable piece of monkey scrotum."
- MDC
"Because this is a blog and I’m an argumentative bastard." - tehGrindCrusher
Hence the "at the time" remark :)
Johnson did a good enough job building that team that even Switzer won a Super Bowl. Since Johnson left, it has been largely yes-men in the HC spot, or people too hamstrung by Jerruh to be able to accomplish anything. That made my recovery much, much easier when I skipped out on that area.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 19, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Jerruh is a douche
I loved Tom Landry, the man was a class act, one of the last few who showed up in a suit and fedora when everyone else was transitioning to a more casual dress. He built the Cowboys into “America’s Team” and Jerruh has destroyed all of that. The final strand of Cowboy fandom I had was snipped when Jerruh fired Jimmy, then took credit for the Team that Jimmy built. Switzer got a Super Bowl ring, and didn’t have to even work to get it. Troy, Smith, Moose, Novacek, etc. coached themselves. I have promised never to root for the cowboys until Jerruh; dies, retires, or sells the team.
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by Taco Joe on Sep 19, 2011 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
What worries me
It sounds like there is a contingent of fans that are now Texans fans dying to become Puke fans as soon as Jerrah is gone. But you know what? The legacy of Jerrah will outlive all of us, because his progeny will be left in charge!!!
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Meh
There’s people on here with more than one team. I’m more concerned about the ones who still won’t let go of the ex-Oilers.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 19, 2011 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
What?
They are hiding in the closet if that’s the case….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I think most of them still haven’t figured out how to leave chron.com. And the “loss” of VY probably didn’t help their mental state any. I’m sure there will be sightings when the BESF’s are in town.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 19, 2011 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope they come on and post
I would really like to hear what there explanation of the whole situation is. I think we are comparing Cowboy-Texans fans to BESF-Texans fans and if the C-T fans are just waiting for Jerrah to expire to re-declare their allegiance, then I expect that the BESF-Texans fans are waiting for BeezleBud to expire also so they can re-declare themselves BESF fans. I want to talk to them!
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I just dont like
when the BESFs wear their throwbacks…go be the titans, that oil derrick means Houston. Wish the Oiler history stayed here somehow, Warren Moon doesnt belong up there.
by eng on Sep 19, 2011 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not a problem here...
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definitely would love this...
I just feel like his contract next year will be huge, and the slight drop in skills to tate, ward, and a 5th rounder, is worth a first if someone wants a runner THAT badly.
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by Carter Liles on Sep 19, 2011 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
plus the short shelf life of rbs as it is...
he’s been hurt before… but at least you see my concern. right?
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by Carter Liles on Sep 19, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't trade him or cut him.He's still a great back when healthy
What will most likely happen is we’ll resign him for one more year to prove that the first year was not a fluke then if he produces, we’ll ink him to a nice deal. Slaton and Ward are more likely to be cut/traded than Foster.
Maybe it's just my man love for Foster
But I just dont think Tate is on his level, even though he has done really well. I can see the money savings argument, but I just couldn’t do it.
and your right about foster being much better.
Id just trade a 1600 yard rusher for an 1100 yard rusher, and a component nose tackle. Ya know? As sad as it is, you can’t get too attached to running backs in this league.
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by Carter Liles on Sep 19, 2011 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
depth, you gotta have it
We have the best RB depth in the entire league. I think we need to keep it that way.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Yes
RB’s get injured. That’s why they, relative to other positions, don’t get the big bucks in most cases. Neither one is hurting us financially. I don’t think the team trust Slaton (with good reason). If you trade Foster you are down to Tate and Ward. That’s a good tandem, but it’s not going to get you through the season. Once Foster gets healthy (and they should take their time with him) being able to rotate them will keep them both fresh and give us a stronger running game overall. So what if it screws up fantasy football.
Just be happy that we have someone like Tate. Without him losinf Foster could be a disaster. With him it’s not a big deal.
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I got too much to think about
Uh yeah Foster has a hammy issue.
But I still think he’s the better RB comparing him with Tate.
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Not really
Why make a strength a weakness with more than half the season to play? I think foster will be a restricted FA so we can get another year out of him at least. If not there’s always the franchise tag. Try to work out a trade then.
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I'm assuming this is in the offseason
if we can trade him for a 1st rounder and tate has shown he can be the starter and foster is asking for stoopid money, I trade him.
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yea, sorry. I heard someone on the radio ranting to trade him right now so I'm still in that mindset
If I’m right about Foster being a RFA. though, he can ask all he wants. The question is how big of a distraction would he/it be if there’s a holdout.
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I got too much to think about
RFA, means he could still go somewhere else if he is offered enough and the Texans don't match it
I would like to see this happen in a normal year, when the CBA is thankfully intact, and it happens before the draft, so the Texans can react by allowing him to go to the other team and there is time for them to do the same, sign a free agent RB or draft a rookie RB to take his place.
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It still puts us in charge
We can put the high tender on him, which would mean a team would have to give up a first and third round pick (assuming that is the same in new CBA). We can work a trade if we want, or if some team does make an offer they would have to give us a first and third…which would be fine with me.
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64 percent of all the world's statistics are made up right there on the spot
82.4 percent of people believe 'em whether they're accurate statistics or not
I don't know what you believe but I do know there's no doubt
I need another double shot of something 90 proof
I got too much to think about
Yes, there would be veritable compensation
Not a trade, but definitely protection against losing him.
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foster is a GREAT reciever out of the back field
tate hasnt shown that yet.
If foster doesnt play against the saints, tate will have to prove this.
This is how forte killed the saints D
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I really wanted us to go for it instead of kicking that 2nd field goal
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who are some of the still-available 300+lb DTs we can look at?
Kinda want them to sign Damione Lewis to play DT, he seemed a better option than Cody.
They had Lewis playing DE so I don't think they'll bring him in to play DT.
I hope they are looking for a different option though. The middle of the defense got pushed around way to much yesterday.
Then again I doubt there are any DT’s on the market that are much better than what we have. We’d have to get one in a trade if we’re looking for a quality player who could start.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Slaton to KC for a NT?
They could be desperate with Charles going down
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by The Night Owl on Sep 19, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
at this point it probably doesn't matter who they stick back there though.
I also can’t see any team giving up a player for Slaton that can supplant Cody or Mitchell. Wouldn’t mind trading a 3rd rounder for a NT thoguh.
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