An Absurdly Early Look At Defensive Metrics
To say that the Houston Texans had a bad defense last year is like saying that Guinness is a pretty good beer or that Bar Refaeli is a decent looking girl. It's an understatement of epic proportions.
If not for Rusty Smith, the team would have had one of the worst pass defenses in the history of the NFL, and the run defense looked better primarily due to the fact that opposing teams could throw the ball at will. Credit team management, however, for addressing the problem in the off-season by bringing in free agents Danieal Manning and Johnathan Joseph, drafting defense like it was going out of style, and bringing in Wade Phillips to mold the squad into his personal crew of evil doers.
Now, it's very clear that there are still holes in the defense -- if one can call a 301 pound man a hole -- but on first glance, it looks like the team is getting a pretty good return on the off-season investments.
It's still far too early to draw any firm conclusions, but let's go ahead and take a quick glance at that return. After all, what good is a blog if we don't occasionally make grandiose statements based on small sample sizes?
Looking at traditional stats, the Texans currently lead the NFL in total defense (yards allowed), passing yards allowed, and total points allowed. Granted, the team hasn't played any true powerhouse offenses yet, though I believe the Dolphins' offense will surprise this year, but let's compare that to last year.This year, the team has allowed 306 total yards to the Dolphins and 236 to the Colts. Last year, those would have been the second and third best defensive performances of the season -- surpassed only by the Rusty Smith game.
From a passing perspective, the 172 yards given up to Kerry Collins and 153 given up to Chad Henne would have been the third and fourth best performances of last season -- surpassed again by Rusty Smith and also Trent Edwards. At this point it should be noted that both Smith and Edwards were starting their first games for their respective teams. That, and they both suck.
Even more interesting, however, is that the 2011 Texans have surrendered a total of 20 points in the first two games combined. In 2010 there were only two individual games where they gave up fewer points. Want to guess which two those were?
So upon first glance, the Texans off-season moves look like they are paying off. Kerry Collins and Chad Henne probably shouldn't start working on their Hall of Fame speeches just yet, but they are better than Rusty Smith and Trent Edwards.
Now let's look a little deeper. Football Outsiders has not yet updated their metrics to include Week 2, so let's look at Advanced NFL Stats.
In 2010, the Texans' defense ranked dead last in defensive expected points allowed, dead last in expected points allowed per play, dead last in win probability added, 23rd in defensive run expected points added, and dead last in defensive pass expected points added.
You don't really need to understand the details of those metrics to know that the team was really bad.
So far in 2011, though, they rank 3rd, 3rd, 8th, 18th, and 2nd in the same metrics respectively.
I don't have the weekly stats for 2010, but I'm pretty sure the team was never ranked in the top 3 at any point during the season in any pass defense metrics.
Again, it's waaaaay too premature to say that we now have a top ten defense, but it may be fair to say that we are seeing an improvement in defensive play -- specifically in pass defense.
This has become evident in both the metrics and in the expectations for the team.
For example, watching the Dolphins game this past weekend, there were moments -- specifically in the third quarter -- where they were moving the ball extremely well against the Texans' defense. If this had been last year, I would have lowered my head, expected a loss, and drank myself into oblivion. Instead, with our newfangled defense, I watched cautiously, held out a modicum of hope, and then drank myself into oblivion.
That may not be the sign of a dominating defense, but I for one will consider it progress.
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Yes it is early,
Even turnovers are looking much better.
There is just a whole new “feel” to this defense – I enjoy watching it instead of hope for some dumb mistake by the other team. This defense makes things happen.
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
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J.J. Watt celebrates the fact that he never had to play under Frank Bush.
Well, it was an OK post, too. Heh.
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I concur
The caption says it all
by The Original H-Town Stomp on Sep 20, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's to never having read the article.
You had me at the Photo Caption
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This new defense can actually CAUSE turnovers...
I had to go back and make sure that was legal (it is… who knew?).
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I like the term
Take Away More meaning, then turnover.
Apparently, bleach has an act like an asshole effect.
Being Insane I would know, I am a Texans Fan.
Wade Aid pass it around, 3rd helping on the way.
I was going to look at turnovers (or takeaways)
but we actually had a few games last year where we had more takeaways. I’ll keep an eye on that as the season moves on, though.
/adds obligatory Rusty Smith comment
Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.
by Barryfromtexas on Sep 20, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions
/adds obligatory Shaun-Of-The-Dead bash....
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Any word on Johnathan Joseph?
i know it is only tues but was just wondering. When he was in the game i felt good but when i saw 25, and 30 on the outside i was scared.
How are we in t.o. Margin does anyone know
Does anyone know why mario didnt get credit for a sack on the int.grounding by collins? Is a blocked fg a t.o. On downs?
by Hstntxns on Sep 20, 2011 9:12 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
If we hold New Orleans to 20 or under
I’m ready to say that this Defense is legit. IF they hold them.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
I'd call that something of a longshot, frankly.
This is going to be a shootout, methinks.
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by UprootedTexan on Sep 20, 2011 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Its like a flip flop of last year when I watch the defense
This year I get excited when an opposing QB drops back to pass and our pass rush is on. Unfortunately now I curse under my breath when they hand the ball off to the running back.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Ok thanks
Wasn’t to sure, thought I heard then say it was! Well this year doesn’t feel at all like last year. I think with we have not even played close to or best on d fence, wade is holding out and
not showing his hand to the beter teams
by Hstntxns on Sep 20, 2011 9:30 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
The turning point for me was when we were down by 3 points.
and they had the ball. and I didn’t panic. I actually remember realizing that I was not panicking, and noted to myself how strange that was.
Thank God for football!
by BattleRedHusker on Sep 20, 2011 10:19 AM CDT reply actions
MMM.. I don't remember us being down this season... ever...
yet…
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I think someone posted...
that were are the only team in the NFL this year that has not trailed in a game.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 20, 2011 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
That's possible, because I remember I was getting nervous at that point too...
… but still having confidence in our Defense (that big “D” there is the one that we lost last year when all we had was an “efense”…), which was a strange and wonderful feeling.
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NOOOOOOO
Houston at New Orleans, CBS, 1 p.m. ET — Greg Gumbel, Dan Dierdorf
Not Dierdorf, I hope my broadcast comes in spanish.
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Mine comes in mute... thankfully.
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You'll miss Dierdorf's repetitive references to Brees' revitalized career in NO
and how beloved the Saints community loves and has embraced him….
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Deirdork is awful! I've hated him since the 80's.
I gotta say I didn’t think wade phillips could transform that D in that short of time, even though he has done it before, but I’m impressed…JJWatt is the real deal.. Joeseph is a baller..
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah...
I always thought Dierdorf was kinda annoying, don’t know why lots of people love his analysis.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
I miss Gus Johnson
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought he moved to another network...
but still did football, no?
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Actually, I remember reading that he went to FX to do college games.
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Who knows, maybe he decided he'd rather do the college game than the pro game???
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Never try to baptize a cat.
That's probably the case. Go where the money is.
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I'd take Dierdorf
over Gruden any day.
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by CowboyH8ter on Sep 20, 2011 1:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That whole MNF booth is a mess...
Gruden can’t criticize anyone (THIS GUY…THAT GUY). Jaws is a smart guy, just sounds like he has a megaphone attached to his collar. And Tirico is a good straight man but gets a little preachy ala Buck.
Just put Dilfer on everything NFL related. Billick wasn’t bad during the Dallas game. You probably didn’t notice due to your username!
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I can very close to pressing [POST] to a scathing reply that involved you, your relatives, and four-legged farm animals due to your praise of Dilfer. But after a long day of mind numbing work, I came to my senses and realized that I was in fact picturing Tim Hasselbeck in my mind instead of Trent Dilfer. Once that self-induced mental match game hallucination was rectified, I took a deep breath, wrote this reply, and felt much better about your judgment. As you were.
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Funny you mentioned that...
I think Hasselback is not that great at all,and I’m surprised I see him on TV as much as I do. I mean, he’s not terrible, he’s just kinda there. I guess they have to have someone to fill the daytime weekday spots when no one is watching.
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I'm thinking
This will be a much better game than the scheduled SNF game.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 20, 2011 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a given.
To bad for the Colts. Flex scheduling doesn’t take effect until week 11. At least they won’t have to take the beat down against NE on SNF. That will obviously be moved.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
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Just finished watching the game...
I have to say three of Miami’s receptions were great plays by the receivers and not so much piss poor coverage by Jackson or Joseph.
Jason Allen played scared against Marshall. No excuse on that TD…just God awful coverage. I don’t mind so much Allen keeping everything in front of him, but when defending inside the red zone, he has to tighten up on coverage. That can be fixed.
Kareem Jackson played his best game as a Texan. I don’t think that jersey tug on the speedy receiver effected the outcome of the play, but I’m glad he did that instead of getting burned for six.
Brian Cushing is starting to look like the Cushing we came to know and love in 2009. He has been solid thus far. DeMeco, on the other hand, looks rusty and often out of position. It’s odd seeing him miss tackles when his gap assignment was unblocked off the snap. Jury is still out on whether DeMeco can play like he did pre-achilles injury.
I’m not sure what to say about the run defense on Sunday other than going along with what Kubiak said in Monday’s presser. Their game plan was to stop the pass and they did. If that is true then maybe the ILBs were playing a little on their heels and not shooting the gaps as aggressively as they could have if playing the run. Also, I saw a rookie make a rookie mistake when Brooks Reed over-pursued a counter to Thomas and took himself out of the play. Thomas had nothing but daylight on the left side when Reed got bottled up in the middle. This allowed Thomas to break off a twelve yard run. That was definitely not on Cody and neither was DeMeco’s miss tackle at the LOS. If the ILBs do their job on those two plays, then Thomas runs for 90 yards instead of 107. And the 20 yard scramble by Henne was good coverage downfield with no LB spying the QB. You also have to consider Philips was maybe thinking Miami’s running game wasn’t all that great if Bush was their feature back to begin with. When Thomas came in, it changed the dynamic of Miami’s offense as compared to week one, so it was a bit of an unknown whether Miami had it in them to establish a ground game. As the season progresses, I think Philips will have a better grasp on a game plan when unknowns become well known as the game film starts to mount up. I honestly believe if Houston played Miami in week 4 and Daniel Thomas had solidified the starting RB job at that point, then Philips’ game plan would’ve been more balanced. Maybe the Texans D still gives up 306 yards, but I’m thinking 206 would’ve come through the air and 100 on the ground instead of the 153/153 like we saw this week.
Glover Quin continues to impress me with his safety play, although I believe he cheated a little too much on assisting Allen (or was it Joseph or Kareem?) on the long completion over the middle to Bess. I watched the play over and and over and just couldn’t tell if Manning was playing too deep or Quin wasn’t playing more towards the middle of the field.
Obviously this defense begins and ends with our DEs and OLBs. If they continue to play like they have during the first two games (sacks, batted balls, constant pressure, etc.), then I think the rest of the group improves enough to make this unit a top ten defense by season’s end. I think Miami was somewhat of a real test and the Texans’ defense more than passed that test. I’d give their performance in Week 2 a solid B. New Orleans will be the ultimate test and lets just hope the defense can contain and let the offense take care of the rest. Here’s to a 2-0 start.

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by H-town Fanatic on Sep 20, 2011 11:22 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
You pointed out this:
If that is true then maybe the ILBs were playing a little on their heels and not shooting the gaps as aggressively as they could have if playing the run.
And I agree completely. Cushing had a nice game, no doubt, but he was mostly in clean-up duty tackling guys two or three yards off the LoS. DeMeco, on the other hand, looked hesitant all day long, but perhaps that was part of the plan, as well. I saw very few plays where our linebackers shot the gaps, which is a shame, because our D-line did a nice job of closing off their gaps. With more aggressive linebacker play, I think we’d have seen 3-4 more TFLs, and we wouldn’t be complaining about our run defense.
by Nashmeister on Sep 20, 2011 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Difficult to shoot gaps
When you spend most of your time trying not to get run over by a backward skating Sean Cody.
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Hurray for generalizations.
And misspelled player names.
Hurray for missing a good joke.
Google “Sean Cody”. You’ll laugh. I promise.
Blind fandom is all I got left.
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by Lone Spot on Sep 20, 2011 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Was that a laugh?
Blind fandom is all I got left.
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And, might I add:
The plan seemed to work. I didn’t see who was in coverage on Fasano most of the day, but we shut him out, and only gave up two catches to RBs. Perhaps Wade indeed expected a barrage of screen passes to offset his typically aggressive defense and adjusted accordingly.
by Nashmeister on Sep 20, 2011 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was going to mention Fasano's disappearing act.
Apparently, the middle of the field and short routes were covered well which has me thinking the ILBs were not playing the run aggressively. Like I said, this game plan may have revolved around Reggie Bush as a threat outside the tackles and out of the backfield whereas Thomas was definitely a bruiser/in between the tackles kind of guy.
All I know is the plan worked and we won.
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by H-town Fanatic on Sep 20, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah there were several plays where I thought coverage couldn't have been any better for JoJo or any other top CB in the league
One of those “great defense, just better offense” kinda plays. I think the one thing that stands out to me about this defense is how well they play in the red zone. If we continue to limit teams to just FG’s, this team can go a long way especially with the offense we deploy. If we keep the Saints to FG’s, we will win this game because the Saints give up as many points as they score.
yes it is way too early...
Especially considering that Kerry Collins spent a week and a half(?) in training camp for the Colts. This was clear by the lack of chemistry between himself and the offensive line, not to mention lack of protection. I agree that Chad Henne is better than Rusty Smith and Trent Edwards, but in his defense it’s too early to tell how far really. It seems now that the Dolphins have a much more complete team and are able to move the ball. Still, Henne has been wildly inconsistent in his NFL career.
I’d like to hold off judgement until week 6 or so. That gives us a better line to judge from given tough games against the Saints, Steelers, and Ravens. All of which could be tough defensive battles.
That being said, I don’t think the biggest concern is defensive. Last year, the Texans showed some trouble moving the ball and scoring. This year, while not as evident, the same issue has popped up. At one point in the Dolphins game, with the score 16-10, I really thought the Fins could get back into the game. And rightfully so, with better pass protection, they could have.
Wade Phillips is a great defensive coordinator, but I don’t think that’s the problem this year. If, in the next four games, we beat Oakland but lose to New Orleans, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore, then we are 3-3 and essentially back to mediocrity.
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by Brianlamb on Sep 20, 2011 11:50 AM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
That's right
If you want to be considered playoff worthy, you have to be able to beat other playoff worthy teams. NO, Pitt, and Balt fall into that category. Lose all three of those games and the Texans are not playoff worthy. Simple metric.
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Last year, the Texans showed some trouble moving the ball and scoring. This year, while not as evident, the same issue has popped up.
They were the #2 offense in DVOA last year. If you think they “showed trouble” then so did 30 other teams I guess.
And no, I don’t think I would consider the 3-3 start mediocrity when they 3 hardest teams we face al year just happened to be lumped in the beginning like that. It would be disappointing because of our expectations and how well things have started this year, but they could easily start 3-3 and still win 10+ games
by Jason Brown on Sep 20, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what I was thinking. The Texans offense was not the problem last season. It was our pop-warner secondary.
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by H-town Fanatic on Sep 20, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't degrade pop Warner secondaries like that
by SMITHILLIAK on Sep 20, 2011 2:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
At one point in the Dolphins game, with the score 16-10, I really thought the Fins could get back into the game. And rightfully so, with better pass protection, they could have.
Well you could turn that around and say “if the Texans had better pass protection on a couple of those redzone possessions or in the 3rd quarter this game wouldn’t have been close and rightfully so.”
Would, Could, Should but didn’t.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Sep 20, 2011 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think the Texans could have lost but the were just a little bit better
I think there will be plenty of games we win by the skin of our teeth. We saw last year that playing catch-up can only get you so far before time runs out….or Schaub throws a pick. Score fast, early, and control the clock.
Encouraging Henne only passed for 150 yards...
after torching the Pats the week before with 400+ yards and 2 TDs. Sparano had said he wanted to open up the offense this year. Didn’t watch every play but noticed the run gashing by Thomas in the middle of the games. Unfortunately, that was a problem with Phillips in his last year in Dallas, but hopefully Texans can shore that up as the season progresses.
"He’s the boomstick, you know what I mean?" -Ian Kinsler
Run efense definitly is an issue but I was really happy eeing the team handle the Dolphins passing game.
Marshal had 6 catches out of 12 targets. Hartline had 2 catches out of 7 targets and Bess had 2 catches out of 5 targets. Fasano was shut out.
Whatever the Texans were doing in pass defense it worked like a charm. Interested to see how the Saints choose to attack the defense. Brees had a rough outing the last time he faced Wade’s defense. They are trying to get back to that 2009 run game they had now with Pierre and Ingram. Although their run defense has been bad so far through two games.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I'm sure your run D will look all pro against us seeing as how we will probobly not throw another pass all season! lol
You will be able to stack 11 in the box.. Luke couldn’t hit the fucking BIG SHOW with a pass.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't worry I'm sure they will pull the rug out from under McCown at some point this week.
It’s just a matter of before,during, or after the Panthers game.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I can see Gabbard getting into the game...
if Cam and the Panthers start running away with that game. Although that week 1 win might buy McCown some rope.
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Ya we had a hiccup against the Jets.. We are better than that. NO EFFING WAY THEY "START RUNNING AWAY WITH IT"
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions
God I hope so..
I am all for letting Gabbert get his cherry popped sooner than later.. Maybe he can shine next year.. Or even this year..
Can’t be worse than PUKE MAGOWAN.
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't worry
We will have our usual split you guys
by TheDream34 on Sep 20, 2011 1:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
HAHA.. That's all we can hope for as of now..
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
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Not to rain on the parade but we have not played a good team yet.
The Colts are terrible and the Dolphins are too inconsistent to be considered good.
If we can keep the Saints to 17-20 points, I will begin to think this defense may be legitimately a top 10.
Until then, going to stay low key and assume we are middle of the pack at best.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
To expand....the secondary has not been challenged yet.
Collins had not protection and couldn’t pass.
Henne was never that far behind that he had to abandon the run and go strictly pass as was the case in the Patriots game.
This week should be the first real test for the secondary, assuming the Saints O-line holds up.
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by TexansForever on Sep 20, 2011 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree for the most part but
The Dolphins weren’t in a deep hole against the Patriots until late in the 3rd. The couldn’t run with Bush but since the Pats can’t stop the passing game they just let Henne throw it. McCourty couldn’t Handle Marshall. They had no answer for Fasano or Bess either.
Regardless this defensive play is still encouraging. How many times last year did bad teams or bad QB’s rip the defense up? Several times.
And to hold the Saints to under 30 would be special. If we win the Texans will have to give up no more than 24 probably.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I agree that the improvement is dfinitely huge. Loving the aggressivesness on D so far.
I am just reserving judgement on the d until they play a rested, good team.
Remember Miami had a short week and were obviously gassed in the Monday nighter.
The Saints will be a good team, at home fully rested.
If the D can play havoc with them, then we are in business.
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by TexansForever on Sep 20, 2011 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Saints have scored 30+ in both games
I’d consider it a big sign of improvement if the defense held them under 30.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Saints are a tough measuring stick
They can make good defenses look not so good. Even if the Saints do hang 30 on us, I am not sure that means that we won’t end up a top 10 D. I would almost expect this game to be a 27-24 or 31-28 type game.
If you beat the Saints I will say the texans are top 5... They are rolling right now...It will be a true test of your secondary..
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by SALTWATERJAG on Sep 20, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I believe the saints game is winnable
Now for Pittsburgh I truly think that game will be similar to last years debacle against the giants
by TheDream34 on Sep 20, 2011 2:02 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Tough to tell so far...
Steelers looked like absolute shit week 1, and beat up on a Tavarius Jackson-led Seahawks team last week. If this D can get pressure on Ben and score some points, who knows.
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I agree with that
Even with the blowout they should of beat the Seahawks by more than what they did.
Losing to Baltimore and beating the Seahawks tell us one thing for sure......
The Steelers are made of PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!
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by TexansForever on Sep 20, 2011 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I myself dont see us getting blown out in any game this year
I think if we walk away with a 3-1 record hell even a 2-2 split over the next four games we turn the corner win the division and are on our way to the playoffs.
This muh fucka right here
Said it best…here’s to 13-3
by SMITHILLIAK on Sep 20, 2011 2:17 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We could come out of this next four games 1-3...
…having lost to New Orleans, Baltimore and Pittsburg and I’d still give us an even chance at 12-4…
The only other quality opponent after that is Atlanta… and possibly some craziness from CAMolina…
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yeah I saw that earlier today
pretty cool. And yet it still takes 53 min for them to play a Texans highlight.
Haha I'm used to that.
This Saints game will be a huge meter on where this team is.
even though it's early
no one had us ranked very high last season for the defense. I always said if our defense was mediocre last year, ranked in the 20s overall, we would have made the playoffs for sure.
While we have not played anyone good thus far
We also have been doing well w/o the league’s leading rusher from last season. Yes Tate is doing an admirable job filling in, but he is no Arian Foster. Hoping our offense can do what they did to NO in preaseason.
NT Available
Former Vikings defensive tackle Pat Williams has served his suspension while being unsigned.
I think it may be his asking price rather than his age that would drive us away.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
they were looking
at DE and LBs yesterday, Williams is old (oldest defensive player in the NFL) but he has been a force in stopping the run for the last 3 years, wish they would give him a look
did I type that outloud? oops.
The Dolphins Defense is better than the Saints IMHO.
I don’t think the Saints can top our offense.
Only Matt Schaub can stop Matt Schaub.
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