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Drew Brees scans the field to identify Kareem Jackson and the location of his next completion.

Well, there goes the 16-0 season. 

Now that we've all had a few days to reflect on the past weekend's game, hopefully everybody has had a chance to relax and appreciate that one bad fourth quarter does not a season make.

Perhaps Matt Schaub isn't the worst quarterback in the history of mankind.  Sure, he threw a big interception late in the game, but he's also a major reason why the team was in position to win.  If you fault him for that, you have to credit him for the gorgeous touchdown to James Casey.  Maybe he's not the source of all that is bad in the world, like the economy and this

And yes, Mario Williams registered only a single measly tackle and no sacks, but let's not go overboard and label him a bust.  I mean, I realize that we would have been better off drafting Melvin Oliver number one, but as far as mistakes go, can't we at lest agree that this mistake was worse?

I'm not here to be Little Miss Sunshine (which is a totally underrated movie) -- there is plenty of blame to go around for that horrible fourth quarter -- but let's try to take an honest look at the good and bad of Sunday's game.

Star-divide

Because of my ADD, we're going to do this in bullet form.

  • It seems to me that most of the blame is being directed at the offense's performance (or lack thereof) in the red-zone.  While I'm not letting them off the hook, that's essentially saying, "If only the offense could have put up 47 points," which kind of seems to be ignoring the planetoid nose tackle in the room (if only).  The biggest thing that happened during that fourth quarter is that Drew Brees -- who apparently started calling his own plays in the fourth quarter -- realized that he could just throw underneath Kareem Jackson (and the other DBs to a lesser extent) at will, and the Texans defense was unable to adjust.
  • With a few plays aside, the defensive line was unable to make life uncomfortable for Drew Brees.  I didn't track this specifically, but I seem to recall Mario getting a large number of double teams before his knee injury, which means Connor Barwin likely had a lot of one-on-one opportunities.  I haven't yet re-watched the game, though, so I can't say that for certain.  A lot of credit here has to go to the Saints offensive line and to Drew Brees, who was able to shift around enough to avoid the pressure when it was there.  Still, I'd much rather be giving that credit to the Texans' line.
  • The red-zone offense was weak and it's hard to say if it was play calling or execution.  Kubiak says the plays were there to be made, but it appears that the offense was just uncomfortable.  There was one particular play in the second quarter where the Texans were coming off a time out on 3rd and 9 from the 9 and were completely out of synch.  Again, it's hard to say if that's on Kubiak, the receivers, or Schaub, but it's inexcusable when you just had a timeout. 
  • That said, the offense did score 33 points.  That is more production than in any game last year except three:  two 34 point outputs in Week 1 against Indianapolis and Week 17 against Jacksonville, and one 35 point output in Week 6 against Kansas City.  In 2009, the team had three 34 point games, which were the only times they had more output than they did on Sunday.  To say that another way, the 2009 and 2010 Texans, who were ranked second and eleventh in DVOA respectively, only ever put up more points six times combined and never exceeded Sunday's output by more than two points. 
  • On the other hand, the New Orleans Saints have put up 34 points and 30 points in their first two weeks this year against defenses that were ranked second and sixth respectively in defensive DVOA last season.  They had a bit of a down year last year, but this same offense put up over 40 points five times during their Super Bowl campaign of 2009.  This doesn't excuse our defensive performance any more than the previous bullet excuses our red-zone performance, but I just put it here to try to provide some context.
  • I was surprised to see that Advanced NFL Stats had Andre Johnson with a -0.10 win probability added and -1.3 expected points added.  Clearly, he didn't have a bad game, so what gives?  It seems that this is due to Andre's 53% catch rate and 50% success rate (success rate calculates how often he got the necessary yardage).  You have to be careful when applying these stats to receivers because they're so dependent on other players.  For example, Andre is hurt by the last play, the interception, and the play I mentioned earlier coming out of the timeout (which I'm inclined to put on Schaub because he threw the ball when none of the receivers looked ready for a pass), even though he's not really at fault for those plays.  Furthermore, Andre was limited to two catches in the second half.  It seems like New Orleans locked in on Andre and dared anyone else to beat them.  Outside of James Casey and a fluky play to Kevin Walter, nobody stepped up.
  • Speaking of that fluky play, when it happened, I immediately thought to myself that if the Texans win because of that play, people would be coming out of the woodwork saying that they got lucky.  Seeing as this team has lost games due to the Rosencopter and Q-Tip, I'll be damned if I ever apologize for winning on a lucky play.  In fact, I'd say we're due (screw you, Gambler's Fallacy!).  
  • While some will say that we really miss Arian Foster in the red zone, I think the area where we miss him even more is in the passing game.  Ben Tate is just not as reliable catching the ball out of the backfield.  Arian also has an incredible ability to make the first guy tackle air, thus giving him much bigger plays.  It's a part of his game that was completely overlooked last year.  I heard some fantasy head go off recently about how he expects Chris Johnson to still be a top 10 running back, but Arian Foster won't be in the top 15 because of Ben Tate.  I think this element is what gets Foster back on the field the majority of the time and makes him incredibly valuable in both a fantasy and real football sense.
  • Lastly, how about that James Casey?  It's no surprise to Texans fans that he finally showed what he can do in the passing game.  I wouldn't expect 100 yard receiving games each week, but his presence alone now will force defenses to have to cover him, thus making match-ups with other receivers that much more difficult.  When Foster comes back, the Texans will have four players (Andre, OD, Casey, and Foster) that are among the best receivers at their respective position. 

I think that's enough for now.  Ultimately, the team is still damn good (we know that), the offense is still very productive (we know that too), fault for this loss cannot go to one person (we should know that), and the defense is neither as good as they looked in the first two weeks nor as bad as they looked last week (we damn well should know that too).

There are a lot of areas this team needs to improve on, and this last weekend was as good an indication of that as any.  A few weeks ago, we saw predictions that ranged from 9-7 to 13-3, but one thing that all those weeks have in common is that they result in at least a few weekends that end badly. 

Hopefully this becomes one of only a few.

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Soft, luxurious cushions

Although I am normally very reticent to criticize Wade’s decisions, I’m at a loss as to why we stuck with 7-10 yard cushions for the entire second half. It honestly looked like a bunch of college receivers could have beaten us: run a slant to the first down line and look to Drew. Don’t worry, the Texans defenders will be well behind you because they started out so deep.

And on the two 2-point conversions, our vaunted JJo was 4 yards deep and his first steps was BACKWARD. On both of those plays, any decent Div 1 College QB/Receiver combo would have succeeded.

WTF?

Also, we know that the Saints have a very good O Line, so why so little blitzing? Not much surprise that we got so little pressure.

by smokehaus on Sep 27, 2011 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Not getting pressure =/= not blitzing.

Our players simply didn’t win their match-ups at the line of scrimmage.

by Nashmeister on Sep 27, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

^This happened all game

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I counted 7 Blitzes

Only 2 were successful (incomplete pass) On one Cushing was facemasked for a 15 yd penalty against NO.

Other 5: 2 short completions and 3 first downs for NO. Mostly because Brees could wriggle his way out of the situations.

In other situations Brees managed to duck, slide, or fake out rushers to avoid getting sacked at least 4 times.

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

At LEAST 4 times.....

in the fourth quarter alone.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Sep 27, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

One notable blitz

Was the one Brees burned when he threw that TD over Quin to Graham.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's the problem with blitzing Brees

If you don’t get there he’s going to burn you.

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

They didn't resign him because...

…someone else was willing to make him a wealthy man. While it would have been nice to have him, I don’t think we lose that much with Casey back there and we actually probably have an additional real running threat in that scenario.

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome, footie!

Requisite newb rec.

We’ve covered this quite a bit, and from what I’ve seen so far, we’re a better all-around team replacing Vonta with Casey. I mean, would Vonta ever be a threat to put up 25 total yards much less over 100?

On the season, the biggest difference in the run game is replacing Arian Foster with Ben Tate. Tate’s certainly not bad, but he has neither Foster’s vision nor his burst. And, like Vega mentioned, Foster’s ability to catch the ball out of the back-field makes him all that much more superior.

That was a long-winded answer of no, I (personally) don’t feel like losing Leach is hurting the running game.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Newbie Rec.

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by distant_texans_fan on Sep 27, 2011 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Simple solution

Use Vickers inside the 10

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by Hydroshock on Sep 27, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

For his career, he has 33 carries for 87 yards (2.6 ypc) and and no TDs.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please allow me to facepalm myself

Thank you for your patronage.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am not sure he is a better blocker

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Use them both!

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't hurt

Vickers has been a real FB in the league a lot longer than Casey. If we need the extra push then it makes sense to put him in for a few tries. What’s the worst that can happen, we don’t make it in and settle for a FG?

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by Hydroshock on Sep 27, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

According to Kubiak

Casey has work to do to get better in the running game, he didn’t mention blocking in particular, me thinks it might also help if Tate followed his blockers better.

did I type that outloud? oops.

by Chrxtopher on Sep 27, 2011 8:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not the blocking it's the RB.

Texans still don’t have a run over 20 yards yet this year. That’s sacrilege in this offense.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

True, but you don't need a run over 20 inside the red zone

I’m just thinking that maybe Casey isn’t quite the short yardage lead blocker than we need down there. We signed Vickers so we might as well see what he’s got. And from what I’ve seen he’s got pretty good hands, so we won’t be losing anything on the FB pass routes that Casey has been running. If anything it will confuse defenses even more.

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you aren't hitting the big run plays

It a good indication your RB’s aren’t hitting the right holes in the line. Tate is pretty good straight ahead power running but he wears out because of that and doesn’t make tacklers miss like he needs to.

So when you get in the redzone where hitting the right hole is extremely important the run game really stalls out.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 28, 2011 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can buy that

Which is why I think our redzone scoring goes back up with Foster

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

lulz

It’s been one of those days

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by Hydroshock on Sep 27, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

because we're cheap

the 10th most profitable franchise in all of sports yet we don’t atnt to spend a few extra million to keep a top 60 player on the roster :/
I dont wanna hear anything about Casey being capable of filling in for him, just stop it, he’s not Vonta plain and simple
we’re cheap bottom line, and it sucks because mcnair certainly can afford it

Houston errthang.. Rockets-Texans-Dynamo & Longhorn fan.. an Astros fan these days is an oxymoron

by HB23 on Sep 27, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

celery cap?

did I type that outloud? oops.

by Chrxtopher on Sep 27, 2011 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Made by Tupperware™

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

To make the point

Name the play where he would have been the difference.

The problem on a few running plays was that Tate did not follow Casey.

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

No...just no

This is beyond silly. I think we’re the closest to the salary cap in the NFL. Vonta was elite in 2010, but he was not in any other season. And…AND…Foster had a higher YPC in single-back sets.

Vonta a top 60 player? Maybe if the league was only the Texans and Saints.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the RB not the blocking.

Besides Vonta (once again) is overrated.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ill say that

Although Vonta was able to blow up linebackers in the hole, i havent seen a whole lot of those inside the tackle runs called these first few games. That may just be my opinion and i cant give the stats but the backs appear to be running for the tackles instead of dominating the middle of the line. Not sure if im just blinded by our passing offense or if im seeing correctly. What do yall think? Oh and i guess ive got to change my signature now…

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by HolyCrapADecentDefense on Sep 27, 2011 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vonta could not have caught balls out of the backfield

Vonta was a truck for blocking.

Vonta was shit running the ball.

I think Casey is as good blocking. And, he can catch the ball. Short routes. Deep routes.

Casey is an upgrade.

by Kidaster on Sep 27, 2011 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vonta totally makes that TD catch as Casey did

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by RocketsAstros on Sep 28, 2011 7:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Simultaneously rec'ed AND flagged for the egregious introduction of logic

The good news is the defense will get better over the course of the season. The bad news is, today, I wouldn’t call it anywhere near average. We’re getting better, and we’ll hopefully be coming together in the next six weeks or so.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 12:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Not anywhere near average

Might be a little harsh. As was mentioned, the Saints have hung at least 30 on every team they have played thus far this year. Their offense is just THAT good.

by Mumford on Sep 27, 2011 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you consider average to be 15-18 range?

I still think we’re somewhere in the low to mid 20s. But improving!

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the Texans will finish around 15-18. No higher than 14.

But in the 20’s is below average to bad. If the team ends up there than it’s probably only around 8-9 wins. Not enough powerful offenses on the schedule to warrant a ranking that low.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like normalizing

So, if we play a bunch of crappy offenses poorly, we suck. If we play good ones well, we’re awesome. That’s a “me” thing, though.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's funny how

certain pejorative racial slurs are acceptable and some are not.

by Bobbythegreat on Sep 27, 2011 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

I KNOW!!! RIGHT!?!

Just the other day someone was referring to being made to sleep in the doghouse as though it was a BAD thing!?
/humph…

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

/throws chew toy

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.

by Joe25 on Sep 27, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

/runs after it...

/tags it
/logs it
/adds it to stash

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was me

The dog house wouldn’t be so bad if Sonny kissed even remotely as well as my wife does.

did I type that outloud? oops.

by Chrxtopher on Sep 27, 2011 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

But any licking comes bitching free... tradeoffs...

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

/Sonny wags

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta way ALL the options.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Sep 28, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

shhhhh... be vewy, vewy quiet...

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Loud noises!

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
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by Joe25 on Sep 27, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goombah

is a pejorative racial slur for Italians, but it can be freely used in conversation without seeming wrong. However if you used a slur for many other people’s there would be mass outrage.

by Bobbythegreat on Sep 27, 2011 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh

I did not know that.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

S'okay... I keep forgetting that "gyp"ing someone is a slur as well...

We live in a semantic minefield of sensitivities…

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kinda like how everything gives you cancer?

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

...or gets you sued

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a miracle that I survived childhood...

Lawn darts…
Climbing trees…
Riding bicycles with no helmets…
Shooting each other with BB guns…
The horror… The horror…

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

We don’t “do” that to our kids. Well, the helmet thing we do, especially after I got hit a couple years ago. But we allow them to free range quite a bit. It’s what we got to do. We also follow this as much as we can.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I was growing up, we didn't even KNOW what bicycle helmets were.

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by texanslady on Sep 28, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

In fairness...

I gotta’ say that it is probably a good thing that they’ve socialized the wearing of helmets as well as they have. We would have gotten beat up or worse, ridiculed mercilessly if we had worn one of those things when I was a kid. (Unless it was shaped like a WWII army helmet with “Saunders” stenciled across the back… ah Combat… )
Helmets are a good idea for young skulls or even old skulls (with some selective exceptions)

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL
Helmets are a good idea for young skulls or even old skulls (with some selective exceptions)

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by texanslady on Sep 28, 2011 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Don't forget

Bottle rocket and roman candle fights

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

EPIC bottle rocket fight across a lagoon on Lake Lewisville...

About 50 high school kids on each side… It looked like a war zone.
Police arrived… We dispersed…

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by DilloTex on Sep 27, 2011 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rather rapidly too I would guess.

We dispersed

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Sep 28, 2011 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

HTML fail.
We dispersed

/hangs head in shame and slinks away to man cave

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Sep 28, 2011 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why yes, I seem to believe you are correct as a matter of fact!

As I remember it, there was quite some element of rapidity in our egress from that location.

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blame the Japanese.

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by Jon Banks on Sep 27, 2011 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

....

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by Jon Banks on Sep 27, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what I thought he (Vega) was referring to.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

That actually IS what I was referring to

but once I saw what it meant, I figured I’d change it.

by Vega on Sep 27, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had no idea what you meant at first

Several hours after reading it, I had decided you were talking about the reference to Antonio

by JBal on Sep 27, 2011 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

craptacular. Disregard.

meant to hit “cancel”. Well, might as well complete the thought. Thought he might be talking about the reference to Antonio Smith as a “ninja” (which I have heard used as a substitute for the othe N word, though rarely). Turns out that was a different article anyway though, and obviously wasn’t intended as a racial slur in any case.

/accidental digression

by JBal on Sep 27, 2011 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

There was that picture of David Carr

Wearing a t-shirt that said, “Strictly for my ninjas” on it.

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by tehGrindCrusher on Sep 28, 2011 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Early Lead

If the redzone attempts are converted the Texans are up 27-7 in the second quater. Not ridiculous seeing how they were inside the 5 twice.
Yet, the D line had pressure, just not a good collapsing pressure. Pressure form the outside that Brees could step up and then have wide open throwing lanes.
There will not be a lot of teams that can pass the ball around the yard like Brees, he makes the 4th and 5th options viable scorers.
As bad as the D played in the second half, I believe the Offense lost the game, by leaving points on the field.

Apparently, bleach has an act like an asshole effect.
Being Insane I would know, I am a Texans Fan.
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by WreckNTexan on Sep 27, 2011 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Again, I don't want to let the offense off the hook

but we gave up 40 points! Both sides are to blame.

by Vega on Sep 27, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

This game has blame to spare.

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Being Insane I would know, I am a Texans Fan.
"Wade aid has lean in it, just saying"
Wade Aid pass it around, 3rd helping on the way.

by WreckNTexan on Sep 27, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

you sure?

Matt threw a pick that cost us the game. Its his fault

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.

by Joe25 on Sep 27, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

But I still argue

that Mario's total suck was the reason we lost

by Vega on Sep 27, 2011 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

hes a bust

we should trade him and get a real QB

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.

by Joe25 on Sep 27, 2011 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah!

Like Vince Young!

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by Jon Banks on Sep 27, 2011 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

He just wins games.

He's had to deal with a terrible H.C. like Fisher.

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Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.

My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.

by taylorrohrman on Sep 27, 2011 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

You kid, but check this out.....

Out of sheer boredom I decided to see how many people were throwing themselves off the cliff over at the .com message boards and came across this masterpiece of tripe.

Gary Kubiak: Head Coach of the Houston Texans. I’ve never bought that he’s an offensive genius; much less a good head coach (Gary’s mediocre, at best).

Nevertheless, Gary knows two things about NFL quarterbacks: How to find good ones, and how to immaculate every one of them.

Matt Schaub is not an elite quarterback; and I used to think that he could become one. But, now for the True Life Story of Matt Schaub.

By and large, Gary does not believe in letting a quarterback make pre-snap adjustments (audibles) against a defense. Ergo, he does not allow his quarterback to think for himself, thus retarding the mental growth of said quarterback. Instead, Gary will only allow his quarterbacks to audible out of one run play, into another run play…and not a run to a pass, and vice versa.

When Matt Schaub arrived in Houston—only a 4th year player out of Atlanta—I’m sure it became very apparent, very quickly, that he was being groomed into Kubiak’s system, and that was the way it would be from now on. Matt had no other choice. But, hey! It was/is an easy system to buy into. Hell, you’ve got Andre Johnson to throw the ball to, for God’s sake!

Flash forward several years, and based upon Gary’s offensive philosophy of having a primary receiver on every play—as opposed to a true series of progressions—the net result has been that so many plays have been drawn up for Andre Johnson, that any semblance of real progressions has gone out the door. The truth is, Matt Schaub, in Gary’s system, has grown tunnel vision—like a set of muscle memories—throwing to Johnson, whether he’s open or not. Therefore, what we find is never a true analysis of the field, looking anyone who is open; but instead, merely a bunch of hot reads the whole game.

A case in point: after the Texans vs. Saints game, James Casey said on radio that they had drawn up that long pass to him, before the game. It was run to perfection by Schaub and Casey. In other words, Casey was Schaub’s only target on that play, whether the play broke down or not. Yes, more times than not, Schaub has his final dump off to a running back….but that’s about the extent of surveying the whole field.

And that’s why you rarely see Matt Schaub make something out of nothing. He has been conditioned to not think that way. That is not how the offense is run. That’s why you rarely see Schaub on the sideline going over plays, sent down from the booth; because it’s not Schaub’s job to analyze the defense, under Kubiak’s system. Matt’s mind has never received the mental reps needed to become an elite quarterback: to be able to think on his feet, to work the whole field, to become a student of the game, during the actual game.

And that’s why Gary Kubiak was a lifetime back QB up his whole career—yet being analytical enough, under John Elway to know the position backwards and forwards.

The real story of Matt Schaub is not that can’t deliver the Texans to the Promised Land. He can do that without being one of the greatest QBs of all-time. The true story of Matt Schaub is that his natural skill sets were put into the hands of near-sighted backup head coach, who had the best intentions in the world, although surely the road to Hell was paved with them.

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by Hydroshock on Sep 27, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least

It was a semi thought out piece of crap…that’s all I’ve got.

by Mumford on Sep 27, 2011 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever watch "Ancient Aliens?"

They make a pretty compelling argument that ET’s gave early humans weapons as a means to promote natural selection. I almost believed it until I realized I was sane.

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by Hydroshock on Sep 27, 2011 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

lol that show is so much fun to watch.

History Channel eats that stuff up.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I know!

I get a kick out of it, and I’m a pretty open minded guy so I like to hear some of the far out theories they come up with. You gotta admit, there are some pretty weak main stream explanations for some of the shit those ancient civilizations accomplished. It’s refreshing to see people thinking outside the box for a change, even if a few of them are bat shit crazy!

What’s with that dude’s hair?!?

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

So glad you mentioned that guy's hair...

…and he is such a smug prick too…
“Hi, I’m delusional and arrogant about it…”

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

I swear you can see Nazca Line patterns in the wrinkles in his forehead....

"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim." - George Santayana

by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA

Seriously though, those Nazca lines are trippy. They may have a point on that one.

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he has a point...

…on the top of his head… hence the hair.

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wish they would bring back UFO Hunters.

That show was pretty decent

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

That is my favorite guy

on Ancient Aliens!

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by Taco Joe on Sep 28, 2011 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah but that Ancient Aliens meme is pretty funny

Exaggerations of course. I really like the show. It’s an interesting perspective that isn’t 100% BS it actually has enough circumstantial evidence to at least make you wonder.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 28, 2011 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya' know...

…you can’t really argue with the guy, since he has OBVIOUSLY got them tuned in via that antenna hair of his.

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHA

I love those. And I agree, it’s a thought provoking show.

Who’s that other dude that’s a regular in the show? The one that talks….well the best I can describe it is like Thurston Howell. That’s annoying!

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I caught just a small portion.....

of a segment the other night, and was thinking the same thing. Things that make ya go Hmmmm.

Same w/the movie “Knowing”….hmmmmm.

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Sep 28, 2011 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

rec'd for this... nicely done.
I almost believed it until I realized I was sane.

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The HT.com mesages boards made me cry a long time ago.

Even the harshest criticism here is puny in comparison to some of the stuff there.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

How do you immaculate a QB?

Just curious.

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by Xiane on Sep 28, 2011 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

I was wondering the same thing myself

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmmmm...

“inoculate?”
“emasculate?”
“irradiate?”

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't see one bootleg inside the redzone

Why?

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by H-town Fanatic on Sep 28, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

good read, Vega

Prior to the season we all posted our game-by-game picks. I’d imagine most of us had us losing to the Saints (I know I did), including those with very rosy outlooks.

by JBal on Sep 27, 2011 12:46 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

While I fully expected our beloved Texans to lose this game...

…what left me feeling so discouraged was the apparent inability of our avowed Defensive savior change things up in the 4th Quarter. Or stop the blood loss. If we got beat by a good play or good drive by the Saints, I could live with that. But I saw a complete dismantling of our “improved” pass Defense for an entire quarter. I understand the offense and special teams did them no favors, but I still wish I had seen some ability of the Defensive coaching staff to adjust or alter the game plan.

by USMC_JA on Sep 27, 2011 1:06 PM CDT reply actions  

I think part of the problem was that there was little time

Brees started going no huddle in the fourth which makes it hard and our offense had a 3 and out followed by a 3 play drive (the interception). There was the long 9 play drive where they could (should) have made adjustments, but other than that, they didn’t have much time.

by Vega on Sep 27, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

NO scored 23 points in the 4 quarter...

That’s 3 TD drives. I’ll grant you the no huddle drive and that the other two, if memory serves, were short fields via shanked punt and pick. However, we should have seen SOMETHING different from our defense. Clearly, the defensive play calling was not effective and we should have mixed in more heavy blitz packages or other changes.

I’m not quibbling with you, but I was discouraged (maybe appalled) to see no visible effort at adjustments. If I saw markedly different play calling and we still go lit up by Brees and co, then fine. Tip your hats to the Saints and get ready for Pittsburgh. But I saw what looked to my nonprofessional eye to be repetitive coverage and play calling that was ineffective and no effort made to change. THAT is what I am most discouraged about.

by USMC_JA on Sep 27, 2011 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

The scheme was discouraging, no doubt.

At times it was nearly identical to last year’s defense, save for a sack and two TFLs from Watt, picks from Manning and Joseph, and a good game from a healthy DeMeco. In other words: contributions from our new players saved some points, not coaching.

But it always seemed to me that Wade’s defenses get absolutely torched a few times each year (at least, that was the case in Dallas). The positive to that is, even with those 40+ point games, he still manages to usually put together a top-fifteen defense. So we should see a definite bounce-back very soon. This Sunday would be a pretty perfect time for it.

by Nashmeister on Sep 27, 2011 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

There were several different "Schemes" throughout the game

I do think the Defense will be better against Pittsburgh

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

their defense and our sean cody:

The Steelers have the 2nd ranked defense in the NFL, but since the only thing that can stop the Texans offense is the Texans offense, I am not too concerned with this stat. I have one prediction to share at this moment, Sean Cody will get a sack on Sunday, and here is why I think this will happen: Ben will get flushed… not down the toilet, but in fear of his life as JJ, Mario, and Ninja Assasin blow through the line and set sights on causing a fumble, Ben narrowly escapes certain death only to trip over Cody as Cody remains in the fetal position after being driven to the ground by the center.

did I type that outloud? oops.

by Chrxtopher on Sep 27, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see them ranked 7th

And the Texans 10th

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK gotcha

I was looking at over-all

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Steelers defense

no longer scares me. Part of the reason they are 2nd in yards allowed has to be that they played the offensive juggernauts known as the Seahawks and the Manning-less Colts. I expect the Texans to put up 24 points at a minimum.

by Mumford on Sep 28, 2011 7:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I worry about two things

James Harrison and Troy Polamalu. Those two alone are game changes. The best way to neutralize them is a HEAVY dose of Arian Foster.

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have to respectfully disagree

Cody would have to get pushed backwards into the offensive backfield prior to being driven into the ground for it to be a sack.

But I will take your prediction that he will make at least one tackle, 6 yards down field. Again I respectfully disagree that it will be in the fetal position but rather rolling down the field like when you hit a opossum at 75MPH.

by Blitzman46 on Sep 28, 2011 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

You guys are funny.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 28, 2011 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wrecked for flashbacks....

to a bunny rabbit tumbling after being clipped by the differential of my car traveling at 70MPH.

Yes I’m evil.

/re-retires to man cave

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Sep 28, 2011 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree that adjustments should have been made

but I think the fault falls more on the players than on the coaches. I don’t think Wade had much of an opportunity to “coach anyone up” and I think the players needed to realize what was happening.

Kubiak’s comments clearly suggest that the players have the freedom to make those adjustments and they failed to do so.

Now, on the third drive, Wade did have a chance (during the Texans touchdown drive) to coach guys up, so I do fault him on that one.

by Vega on Sep 27, 2011 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting take.

Kind of a chicken and egg argument. I believe the coaches should have recognized the play calling was not working and become more aggressive (it could not get worse, right?), you believe, to an extent, the players should have executed better (excepting the 3rd drive). The truth is probably somewhere in between. Either way, like N-meister said, it felt too much like last year. My Texans induced PTSD was back with a vegence.

Nice write up BTW. I enjoyed it.

by USMC_JA on Sep 27, 2011 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can't remember where I saw analysis, think it was Dilfer...

That said the saints kept them in nickel defense that they knew they could exploit in the 4th qtr.

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by selke99 on Sep 27, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last TD was against base 3-4

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not the line

No defensive line can defend against repeated and 100% effective 7 yard slants and comebacks. The ball was out of Drew’s hands in less than 2 seconds and he had his pick of receivers.

Yes, our rush was not very good (against a great line, let’s remember). But the killing blow was coverage.

by smokehaus on Sep 27, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

It's the Frank Bush Paradox, right?

Secondary 10 yards off the ball, not allowing your pass rush to impact the QB. It really was a flashback of disconnected strategies.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard Kubes say they were supposed to be doing bump and run

On many plays I saw them line up close…then cheat back until there was the old cushion.

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's falling back on old coaching....

one starts getting flustered and falls back on the more ingrained “habits”.

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Sep 27, 2011 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not a big believer in it

But I think we need some electro-shock therapy to help.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cattle prods on the sidelines?

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

We need them pre-snap. Or, maybe, long distance cattle prods? Tazers? Darts?

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Winner winner chicken dinner!

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

With the letters....

CYFR stitched into it.

(Cover Your Fucking Receiver)

Just my $.02
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by txknight on Sep 28, 2011 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

agreed

even with the FA additions, our secondary should still be our D’s weakness.

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

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by Joe25 on Sep 27, 2011 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT

Just a thought, but what if the Colts miss out on Luck and get Landry Jones could we live with that?

and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."

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by Joe25 on Sep 27, 2011 1:17 PM CDT reply actions  

absolutely

lucks better than jones. jones’ ceiling is sam bradford (can make the throws, limited in other areas, etc).

KP

by stanfordkp on Sep 27, 2011 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm really optimistic about this team...

even after this very disappointing game. My points:
 
1 – Offense. I predicted we would win 28-23 (or 24) and never thought we would give up 40 even to the Saints. So I was overly optimistic about where our defense is at this point in the season. However, after 3 quarters, we were up 26-17. Not bad against the Saints in N’Orleans but we just ran out of gas IMO in the 4th as well as being unprepared for the spread formation the Saints brought against us. We were terrible in the red zone although I don’t think we lose this game to anyone else except maybe the Pats and Packers and possibly a couple others. Arian Foster will definitely help although I don’t think Tate will do anything but get better. Matt Schaub had a good (not great) game but he was inconsistent, especially in the 4th quarter, and with a couple of bad passes and the interception, he deserves some of the blame for us not using up clock and not scoring any more.
 
2 – Defense. Again, ran out of gas in the 4th and had no answer for Brees. KarJax was horrible in the 4th after being at least average in the first 3 qtrs. Very disappointed on Joseph as well on both of those 2-point conversions. Looked like he was covering air. WTF. Anyway, Saints and Brees are one of the best offenses in the NFL and still we held them to 17 through 3+ quarters. Not bad for the worst pass defense from last year, if not of all time, as well as for a defense still learning a new scheme. Later this year, this defense will not perform nearly this badly IMO at the end of a game against anyone.
 
3 – Special Teams. I guess we can’t have a return TD every game, although it would be nice. Our coverage was somewhat suspect and our returning less than stellar but we didn’t turn the ball over or make other major mistakes so other than Rackers perfection, I don’t think special teams played that big a factor in this game. The Hartmann shank punt in the 4th certainly didn’t help but even that shouldn’t have made a difference in the game.
 
4 – Coaching. This is what I believe cost us the game. We should have been able to make adjustments in the 4th to better compete against that 5-wide spread offense that killed our defense. We should have had coaches who made our players play tighter on the receivers instead of giving them the cushions they did. I heard both Wade and Gary on sports radio talking about how our pass defenders needed to have more confidence in themselves and how they shouldn’t have been giving the Saints that much cushion. Well, that’s the coaches’ job to adjust and they didn’t do it. Also, Kubiak calling all those pass plays when we were up by 9 and then up by 1. Even with no first downs we could have run 2 to 3 times more time off the clock if we had just run, run, run. The coaches lost us this game IMO.
 
Okay I’m done with my version of venting but as I said in the title I’m very optimistic, still, about the Texans and their chances this year and I think we beat the Steelers this weekend by 10+ at home. Peace!

by Mikus318 on Sep 27, 2011 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Only two things scare me with Pitt

Polamolu

and

5 WR sets

Thats it

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by AllenOU on Sep 27, 2011 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay but...

Roethslisburger (sp) is not Drew Brees; not even close. Also, Steelers O-line is not nearly as good as the Saints O-line. I believe we get a lot more pressure on Ben R. which helps us against their passing game. I also think Wade will make adjustments in our pass defense whether or not Kubiak does anything to help.

by Mikus318 on Sep 27, 2011 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

We were talking about it in the SNF thread

The Steelers o-line has got to be the worst in football right now, and I don’t think it’s close.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

And in related news...

According to Sprint Football Live, the AP is reporting that Tomlin says that they (Steelers) are “not perfect by any stretch.”

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 27, 2011 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes...

not to mention that our defense is going to be out for blood! Can you imagine how “up” for this game the entire team is going to be? Especially the defense? It wouldn’t surprise me to see us blow out the Steelers next weekend.

by Mikus318 on Sep 27, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we can actually tackle Roethlisberger...

This should dramatically inflate our sack numbers. Now, if only we could bring in Indy’s D-line coach to teach our pass-rushers to strip the ball.

by Nashmeister on Sep 27, 2011 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

He’s tough to bring down, but I think we have the players to do it.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Their O-line

has been bad, allowed 9 sacks, 4 of which have resulted in fumbles.
and being under constant pressure has caused 4 int’s and a rb fumble also.

did I type that outloud? oops.

by Chrxtopher on Sep 27, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually that whole front 7 cares me.

With Woodley and Timmons along with Hampton and Harrison. It’s going to be a tough game for the offense. I wonder how the Texans will attack it.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fire Kubiak

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Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.

My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.

by taylorrohrman on Sep 27, 2011 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

FIRE GREGG WILLIAMS

Oops, sorry wrong blog.

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by Jon Banks on Sep 27, 2011 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

awesome

I hate saints fans, but a couple of you are alright!!

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by AllenOU on Sep 27, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha - want to trade?

Straight up – Phillips for Williams!

by Mikus318 on Sep 27, 2011 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fire Frank Bush!

Wait? We did? He wasn’t coaching that 4th quarter defense?!

by anthonymgarcia on Sep 27, 2011 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

The biggest thing is foster in the red zone

tate is fine between the 20s, but once there is less space to work with, he struggles. Foster excels in this area.

Also Harris needs to get some PT, and jackson needs to ride the pine for a week IMO, if for nothing more then to let him know he needs to figure his shit out FAST

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by AllenOU on Sep 27, 2011 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Another awesome aspect of James Casey?

In Yahoo Fantasy, I can start him as either RB or TE… Glorious.

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by Riott on Sep 27, 2011 2:02 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know if this has been said already but

Did Brandon Harris even play last sunday? I might of just missed him but I didn’t see him out on the field.

by Catallac392 on Sep 27, 2011 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Harris has yet to play a defensive snap.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

What do seyi ajirotutu and lance Moore have in common

They’re both no named receivers Kareem Jackson made famous

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Lance Moore has been pretty decent for some time.

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by Xiane on Sep 27, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

the year before their SB win (2008), he was a favorite target of Brees

79 catches and 10 TD’s, close to 1000 yards. He fell off the year after because he was hurt, but I wouldn’t call him a “no name” at all.

by JBal on Sep 27, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah Seyi is a no name but Moore is a Welker type WR.

Underrated but very good.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Not including this year’s numbers, Moore has 22 TD’s in 5 seasons to Welker’s 23 in 6.

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I actually heard a Scrabble apologist this weekend

Something about him needing time to learn a new system, so he may not be productive right away.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 27, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's not all that young, Mr Scrabbles.

Maybe this is the decline? Maybe Philly’s D is worse than Oakland’s in certain respects? Philly’s D has looked really really bad quite often this year, that’ll effect everyone.

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by Xiane on Sep 27, 2011 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fun fact:

Over the past three years, Oakland has ranked 1st, 6th, and 6th in adjusted sack rate. Cincinnati was 30th, 28th, and 31st.

Philly routinely ranks high, as well (they’re actually ranked #1 right now), but the idea that Asomugha was the lone bright spot in a black hole of suck in Oakland isn’t entirely accurate. He had plenty of help from that pass rush. Joseph (and Leon Hall), on the other hand, have really been hung out to dry in coverage recently.

by Nashmeister on Sep 27, 2011 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's an interesting set of stats.

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by Xiane on Sep 28, 2011 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Their safety play is Texans 2010ish

Think they miss Mikell yet?

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by Xiane on Sep 28, 2011 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah the Eagles are trying to use him in zone instead of Man.

How ironic if the Raiders made the playoffs and the Eagles didn’t?

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is very likely

As the way things look now

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Watching that game....

I wonder if the Texans could use another reliable WR. Seemed like Schaub didn’t trust any wideout but Johnson. I know they gave Jones an extension, but he seems only useful on special teams. Walter may be too injured to provide a bigger impact.

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by selke99 on Sep 27, 2011 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

yup

but mcnair’s too cheap

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by HB23 on Sep 27, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree

he should cut jacoby, and walters, and go out and sign t.o. and randy moss. pay them the big bucks and watch this team take off!!!!!

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Sep 27, 2011 7:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Need a space somewhere

Can’t read all teh sarcasm

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

the original message said "he should cut jacoby and walters and sign t.o. and radny moss. pay them the big bucks and watch this team take off!!!!

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Sep 27, 2011 7:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because

It works so well for Jerruh and the Eagles.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Sep 27, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

its why the redskins make the playoffs every year and the pats don't

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Sep 27, 2011 7:26 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Broken record is broken

You need to see where we are against the cap and think about this silliness a little deeper.

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 27, 2011 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

That statement is just stupid

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

/spank

Don’t make BFD have to come back there, ‘cuz he’ll turn this blog RIGHT around.

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why not pass to Johnson?

Did you see Patrick Robinson even close to stopping him? Game plan was to exploit that match up and get the TE’s involved since the Saints struggle to stop them.

The Texans offense attacks the opponents weakness like everybody else. Sometimes we use the WR’s a lot. Sometimes it’s the RB out of the backfield, other times it’s the TE’s making plays.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a beautiful catch...

…and what a beautiful run out of the backfield. I could watch that play over and over (if it didn’t come in a losing effort.)

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

But of course

KUBIAK SUX!!

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

Conserviak!

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

A few observations I had

First

Outside of James Casey and a fluky play to Kevin Walter, nobody stepped up.

I believe Daniels stepped up.

Some other observations:

There actually were several schemes used throughout the game. On 3 long NO pass plays the defense was in the dime or nickle.

There often was different guys covering – various blitzes – the problem is that NO handled everything thrown at them.

Mario dropped back at least 5 times this game. At other times he was more focused on contain than getting to the QB (I think it was what he was coached to do in those situations)

On one play Barwin knocked Sproles down behind the line of scrimmage and Sproles managed to get up and catch a pass for a big first down.

The TD that gave NO 32 was on a 4 man rush play. I think the nickle.

The Go ahead run was against base 3-4 – The initial hole was stuffed. Cushing over pursued and Quin got blocked in the back where he couldn’t make the tackle and actually partially prevented Manning from making the play – maybe a great block from NO’s perspective.

This is probably too long but those are some of my observations.

Mario Williams will have 4 sacks and 1 int by Game 4 of the regular season.

by Barryfromtexas on Sep 27, 2011 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

↫What is this Logic?↬

Fire Kubiak he can't even beat the Saints. what have they done the past two years

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by Taco Joe on Sep 27, 2011 6:51 PM CDT reply actions  

They lost to the Seahawks last year

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 27, 2011 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

18 passes & 3 rushes in the 4th qtr is NOT how you keep Brees on the bench andprotect a lead

Kub panicking as usual and airing it out like Houston was playing catch up, when they actually started the 4th with a 9 point lead and were never behind more than a TD.

He will never, ever learn that Houston almost always loses when Kubiak passes more than he runs.

by SuperSerial on Sep 28, 2011 4:36 AM CDT reply actions  

might be wrong on the being behind part, don’t remember exactly now that I’m thnking about it, but regardless, he is too pass happy. a clock chewing gound offense is your best defense against brees and the like. 18/3 is about as backward ass as it gets.

by SuperSerial on Sep 28, 2011 4:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tate was hurt

Would you have preferred to let Steve Slaton get some carries?

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by bigfatdrunk on Sep 28, 2011 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

The horror... the horror...

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by DilloTex on Sep 28, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

He wasn’t hurt that bad. Slaton did get a couple of carries, but he ran right into his linemen most of the time if I remember correctly.

by SuperSerial on Sep 29, 2011 4:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

That might have to do with Tate wearing out quickly.

When Tate gets into the 11-20 carries range his yards per carry drop from 5.8 to 3.2. Kinda hard to keep the run game going when the only RB is running out of steam. Also his second half yards per carry take a decent drop as well.

As I’ve been saying he’s a good 10 carry back right now but his run style just doesn’t make him a reliable 20+ carry back. At least not until he shows he can keep running as well early in the game as well as late.

Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.

by Ethan Matz on Sep 28, 2011 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good analysis

I tend to agree that he’d be best used as a complimentary to Foster, in the neighborhood of 10-15 touches. That could be a lethal combo.

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by Hydroshock on Sep 28, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

A major point after the Dolphins game...

was that Tate seemed to be stronger at the end of the game than he was at the start. With 11 consecutive carries, it seemed like that to me as well. He injured his leg/ankle slightly against the Saints and that may have had something to do with the play-calling but, as I’ve said before, even with a couple of 3 and outs and punts I believe we take 3 times the amount of time off the clock and most likely win the game.

by Mikus318 on Sep 28, 2011 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

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