Houston Texans Sign RB Chris Ogbonnaya, Six Others To Practice Squad
by TexansDC on Sep 4, 2011 4:56 PM CDT
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PrintPer Houston Chronicle writer John McClain, the Houston Texans have signed the following players to their practice squad:
Running Back Chris Ogbonnaya
Wide Receiver Trindon Holliday
Wide Receiver Jeff Maehl
Guard Andrew Gardner
Center Howard Barbieri
Linebacker Mister Alexander
Safety Shiloh Keo
I imagine that since the Texans also claimed guard Thomas Austin from the New England Patriots that they will waive someone, sign a punter, and that waived player will become the final member of the practice squad. I will throw out the names punter Travis Baltz (who had what Indianapolis fans describe as a good preseason) and cornerback Roc Carmichael. Anyone else want to speculate punters and eighth practice squad member? The comments are yours.
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Dodge Sucks
He was terrible for the Giants.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
Mr. Mister Alexander
they must see something in holliday we dont. Glad Maehl stays as well. we all knew Keo would go to the PS Wade is hoping he didnt make a blunder!
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God blessed Texas, but he has forsaken the Texans
I'm surprised they PS'd Holliday and let Dickerson go
Color me WTF’d
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by TexansDC on Sep 4, 2011 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
at least he could be a kick returner, Slaton can’t even be that and we have him on the 53 man roster for some reason.
by Bobbythegreat on Sep 4, 2011 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Slaton has his fumbling issues
but he’s definitely not devoid of NFL potential. I doubt any team in the league has a better #4 RB.
yeah
I dont understand that move at all
guess thats why I’m sitting on my ass instead of scoutting talent on the football field.
My guess
Is that after this year kick offs will be moved back to the 30, in which case we will need a return specialist, so why not
Artificial Intelligence is no match for Natural Stupidity
Dickerson
has had a year and a pre-season to show he could make the transition from TE to WR. In that time he convinced the coaches that he, in fact, cannot play WR as Kubiak’s offense requires. He’s too light to play TE and, well, we have a plethora of those anyway.
aka quikkag
I'm just more stunned that Holliday earned the practice squad
He’s shown less than Dickerson, IMO.
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I think it's one of those girl parts...
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Could it be ...
… that once again, you are angry at something else, and are looking to take it out on me?
Ever thus to deadbeats
by TimtheEnchanter on Sep 5, 2011 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions
seriously
I don’t understand the disappointment in Dickerson’s release. Avery, Tate, and Houzh are all better options as a #5 receiver than Dickerson. I’d rather slide Maehl in or go back and get Anderson than waste a roster spot on a failed experiment.
I also can’t explain the infatuation with Holliday.
Totally agree regarding Anderson
Reliable hands, not afraid to cross in traffic, and knows the system.
They call it a "Royale with Cheese".
Dickerson is not PS eligible
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Decent PS player in Chris O.
He might develop into a capable #3 back.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Scotter Berry
Berry should be on the Texans practice squad
We could find better talent than Holliday and Oggy for the PS
Keo, too.
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For Samoan
He is awfully small
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
for the first time ever
I’m actually excited about the safety position. go figure.
Strange feelin' ain't it...?
…or to be kinda’ excited to see what our defense can do…
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Really
Is that when the girl twists he….and moves her….. then bends her…..
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
Practice Squad
If you claim a player from another practice squad, does that mean he will be signed to the active roster?
From what I understand, being on a practice squad is a lot like being a free agent.
The main different is that you can practice with the team that signed you to their practice squad.
However, also from what I understand, Holliday shouldn’t be eligible for the practice squad, so take that how you will.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Ya I dont understand Holliday
I think the PS rules are based on the Aztec calender because he spend all last season on the IR which should have made him ineligible.
I wish we could hire coaches without "having grown up in Houston" being a job requirement.
I thought PS is kinda the same as a red shirt in college
Can only do it for one year not including an injured year
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 4, 2011 5:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i guess lestar jean will be on the PS next year then
by Steelbluecurtain on Sep 4, 2011 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Players can’t have already been on a practice squad for two or more years, although a third year on the practice squad is possible if a player’s team has had at least 53 players on the roster during his entire period of employment (players are deemed to have spent a season on the practice squad if they are on it for three of more regular season or postseason games during their first two years and at least one during their third year)
Players can’t have an accrued season of NFL experience (six or more games on a team’s 53-man roster, injured reserve or PUP list), unless they were on the active list (i.e. were dressed to play) for fewer than nine regular season games during their only accrued season(s)
Those rules seem not only contradictory, but inconsistent with what the Texans have reportedly done with the practice squad so far, so I’m rather confused.
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So he accrued a season on IR but was active for less than 9 games
so he’s eligible.
What does that mean for dickerson? Was he active 9 games?
You're right, reading comprehension is evidently not a strength of mine.
As for Dickerson, I’m seeing him active for seven games, but I can’t really find anything concrete.
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I think Dickerson was on the roster the whole season last year
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I am not sure how to check
But I am pretty sure he was on the 53 man roster for the whole season
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Its probaby a moot point anyways
If he were eligible, I imagine they’d have put him on the PS. But apparently given the language above, as long as he dressed for less than 9 games he’d be eligible.
I think that's referring to the 45-man active game-day list.
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Yahoo shows he was active for 7 games
I don’t have any idea how accurate that is
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That should make him eligible if accurate
I have no idea why they’d PS Holliday but not Dickerson? But at any rate, its funny how people get really high on someone like him and think he’s going to light up the world and in reality he’s not even good enough to play in the league.
With that said, I hope he finds himself a team though, hoping the best for him.
I have no idea why they would PS Holliday
period
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope Dickerson does find a home
Maybe he could CFL if no NFL
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Holliday has elite speed, so I can see giving him every opportunity
Oingo Boingo kinda strikes me as a dime-a-dozen guy. The few plays I saw of Keo he decided to dive at the feet of the ballcarrier and make no attempt to tackle with his hands. Maehl looked good. Newton probably goes to the PS if he’s eligable and they put Austin in his place.
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 4, 2011 5:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Newton is a rookie, so of course he's eligible for the PS
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
For some reason
I had him twisted around in my had as Shelley Smith somehow…they’re not the same guy right?
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 4, 2011 6:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I've never seen them in the same room at the same time.
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hmmmm
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Eye-gore!
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Steven Friday should have been on over Alexander.
"Hakeem couldn't kick your ass cuz you were too
close kissin his!"- Sir Charles to Kenny Smith.
Antonio ninja Smith
So they found a dead guy in his pool. Did he use
his samurai sword on the dude?
by bryboy32 on Sep 4, 2011 6:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
A man is dead, how about a little respect, huh?
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by UprootedTexan on Sep 4, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I know
That was outta line. My bad.
by bryboy32 on Sep 4, 2011 7:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Fair enough.
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by UprootedTexan on Sep 4, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I am really wondering about this "party"
I have been to parties where cell phones, car keys and many other accessories were lost/found in a pool, but never a body
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Can teams still sign players off other teams practice squads later in the season.
also since we love TEs alot, why didn’t we just keep DDickerson at his position, Im sure he was slightly stronger/faster than dressen. Rivers?BFD?
too light for TE
And with Casey playing 14 positions TE is one of them – we have plenty
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Depends on their eligibility
Good timing, eh? :-)
With his speed, Dorin simply profiles better as a WR. I do wonder, off what you said, if he could fit into the role we’re expecting from Casey. I just can’t imagine his blocking is sufficient, though.
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His blocking looked pretty good this preseason
It was unfortunately his only strong suit
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I am just saying
That was the only above average play I saw
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions
After that one handed catch last year in pre season i was sooooo pumped up for him
alas the NFL is simply so much about what have you done for me lately. As it should be unfortunately. Sidenote anyone else have issue with E winston being rated a 90 on madden and Duane Brown a 80. Winston gave up a few too many sacks in my eyes
Dickerson looked pretty good in practice
But was really “Meh” in all the games he played.
His biggest contribution was a block on a run when OingoBoingo scored a rushing TD
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions
For all the reasons BRB has said Jacoby shouldn't be a #2
DD could have. In time that is. Fast, strong, blocks well, catches well…just needs to work on getting open.
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 4, 2011 7:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
As fast as he is, if that is a problem
I can see why he isn’t on an NFL roster
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Manning
Just heard a report that Manning will need a second surgery and will be out indefinitely.
by slparish2 on Sep 4, 2011 7:27 PM CDT via iPhone app reply actions
If thats a joke
It isn’t funny
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 4, 2011 7:28 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
radio host
Per JMV on his twitter account, an reporter in Indy.
by slparish2 on Sep 4, 2011 7:32 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Im drooling over week one!
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 4, 2011 7:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Saw something in the basement thread
They are pretty upset – so far looks legit
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Too bad they cut Orlovsky
That would have been really fun
by Its Gonna Happen on Sep 4, 2011 7:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
right now
The contract is the least of their worries
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
True, but my point is they probably had a good idea this was coming
Which is why they signed Vodka.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
This isn't his 2nd surgery
It would be his third. On his neck. For a disc problem.
I had an ALIF and discectomy three years ago on L4/L5. Once you start going in and fiddling with this stuff, it’s serious shit. And he wants to play football?
Peyton, you’re one of the greatest QBs in NFL history. This ain’t worth it.
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I agree
Neck surgery stuff is very serious
I would rather see him fine and walking than cripple because he is trying to keep a streak alive
I actually kind of like Manning – even though I hate the Colts – I wish him the best, but dayum!
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Same
I like to think we cancel MDC’s hate out.
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Agreed... I think he's a class act, I just hate having to be his victim twice a year.
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by DilloTex on Sep 4, 2011 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If this is true
Then I really feel for Manning. It’s impossible not to like the guy and he truly is a living legend that we get the pleasure of playing every year. I hope he takes it easy and treats this as the very serious injury that it is.
That being said, there is no excuse for us not to WHOOP THEIR ASS LIKE A RED HEADED STEPCHILD. That goes for all the AFC south.
by YohannDookeyblue on Sep 4, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Pretty much this
Well said.
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Okay, Arian Foster got the same treatment
It’s only fair that Manning gets the same.
CB has been trying to trade P8on to me since the FF draft and he’s been asking for MJD in return. I keep taking MJD out of the equation. Well, this is exactly what I wouldn’t have wanted and I’m glad I didn’t make the trade. Also, hope that MJD can stay on the field, fingers crossed.
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If that's true, I feel like all were are going to here is the reason why we won the division was bc manning is out. Like when the rockets won when jordan was out. Not exactly the same thing but you know what I mean.
by bryboy32 on Sep 4, 2011 7:35 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Winz R Winz
Doesn’t matter
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Yet I don't care
I want the Texans to win the division regardless of excuses of other teams
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Manning SURGERY??
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
You know what time it is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwBk-O1PV2I
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Simultaneously banned and rec'ed
A new record!
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Try this one then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17HPO9HN8OQ&t=55s
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Too Much!
Stooooop!!!
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, you're right, a PB&J won't fill me up. This is more like it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fNbv9QzoQk&hd=1
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions
They use tequila & JD, not vodka
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I had to click didn't I?
I SO understand your simultaneously banned and wrecked now.
/desperately needs eye and brain bleach now.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Speaking of such
I saw frozen P&J sandwiches in Wal-Mart
WTF? Too lazy to make a damned P&J?
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Some lady said she buys those when she travels.
IDK for sure, but they are damn’d good.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
by taylorrohrman on Sep 4, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
dont know what all this hate for holiday is about.
dude is going to shock alot you guys,well atleast i am hoping he will. i can understand the keeping of keo cause wade likes the kid, and wants to give him more time.
I'd rather have Brandon Banks
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
pure speed doesn't equal
automatic success if it did we’d have Usain Bolt as a WR I personally don’t think he’ll amount to any NFL success but if he does “shock” me and does something I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong.
by BC5 on Sep 4, 2011 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Surprised we haven't heard of him trying to sign Bolt multiple times already
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Give him 2 contracts!
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
He has been a dynamic returner at the closest level, though.
There’s some latent football ability there. Let’s hope he discovers it over the course of the next year; I’d love to have a good return game again.
Most don't hate Holliday
He just hasn’t shown any reason to be on an NFL team
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it's nothing personal
He just sucks
/waits for southpaw to lose his mind
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
hahaha
have you seen him at LSU? i hate LSU but he was pretty good, if we could find ways to use him only.
There are no plays
Where we can tape the ball into his hands :)
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions
He reminds me of Jacoby
only he is shorter, has worse hands, and I am afraid one good hit will kill him.
Actually, he doesnt even need to get hit.
Fat Albert only has to sit on him
I think you're old enough...
to remember Willie Gault? He could kinda catch AND he was a legit 6’0. Holliday is 5’5 and has the dropsies. I don’t seem him being successful.
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Willie Gault...4x100 gold medalist. Cat could fly. After playing for the Bears three years he wound up with....
Al Davis in Oakland. Go figger.
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He's a return man who can't return kicks.
Understand now?
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He sorta can
If he can field them
But then he gets his block knocked off
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He spent all of 2010 fumbling
And all of 2011 being too tentative.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
So by 2012
Either we are all dead
Or he finally comes through
Or he gets slow from old age
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
One thing is for sure
Next year, the Texans better address WR in the draft with a 1st or 2nd round pick.
As well as NT in either of those
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions
1/2
that needs to be either the 1st or 2nd round pick. no doubt, wr/nt.
could always use a NT either way.
depth is never a bad thing.
well
where else would you address it? I’m sure there’s a better chance to get better receivers and NT’s that high. That’s all I’m implying. lol, but that’s a year away, I’m far more concerned about this year.
Linemen.
Always. You can’t ever have enough blockers.
true
but it seems our linemen are solid and entrenched in their positions: particularly our tackles. I have a hard time seeing the Texans address the interior line over the defensive line from the transition to the 3-4 in one year. I imagine we spend a first rounder on a DE/DT next season and possibly grab a linemen in the 3rd like they did w/ Winston and Caldwell. Just a thought.
We still need a guard.
Brisiel is injury-prone (and probably more of a product of the system than a quality player), and Caldwell hasn’t stepped up and claimed that spot like we thought he would. I agree that we’re set at the tackle positions (especially because of the Butler re-signing), but I’d feel much more comfortable with a new right guard and a little more depth inside. I don’t think you ever want to go two years in a row without spending a relatively high pick up front. That’s how good teams usually meet their demise.
Disagree
Brisiel is that good, and he’s our ONLY non-true ZBS OL.
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theres a beter chance of getting better anythings that high
lets play the season and see. We might need MLB. Maybe we do need NT. maybe we need a new RT because Winston is in serious decline. Maybe we need a new RT because Briesel finally craps out and Caldwell isn’t good enough. Maybe Wade Smith was a pumbkin. Maybe our OLBs are actually bad. Maybe Mario leaves in FA. Maybe GQ actually isn’t an elite safty. We still might need CBs. A smith might need to be replaced. so on, so forth.
^agreed
we just don’t know. but from the preliminary looks of it…we’re going to need some depth at WR and NT in my opinion.
I could see Mitchell transitioning to DE
He has moves and hands
I didn't do anything wrong!.... and, I won't do it again.
I'm not sure he has the length to take on offensive tackles.
He’s a little short, and a little short on arm length. That’s one of the more important aspects of playing 3-4 DE.
why is that sure exactly?
we are a top 5 offense right now.
by nolander on Sep 4, 2011 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also
We don’t use our WR2 like normal teams do.
Not saying Kubiak wouldn’t adjust, because he’s truly a badass OC, but we just have different expectations for our WR2.
Seriously, I love Kubiak the OC.
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"Seriously, I love Kubiak the OC"
Me too. Shanahan gets most of the credit for those Super Bowls in Denver but Kubiak had a lot to do with that too. The guy really does have a wicked eye for offense.
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by Hydroshock on Sep 4, 2011 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
^This
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:14 PM CDT up reply actions
we need depth
at the position. It’s time to part ways w/ Jacoby. Andre is a super human, but come on, let’s be realistic, it’s the one position where if he were to go down, you’d be scrambling.
so you don't like jacoby
well, I hate to break it to you, but they didn’t just sign him to a 3 year extension because they agree with you. Our TEs get so much work that being a little shallow at WR doesn’t worry me much.
true
but again, it doesn’t mean you don’t look to add quality depth at positions of need on your team. We have depth and quality at the TE position, but we lack it at WR. I do agree w/ BFD about our wr’s being primarily edge blockers and possession type guys first and foremost, but I think a bad*ss #2 wouldn’t be a terrible problem to have.
The same could be said about quality depth at the NT position.
fair enough
we don’t know our most glaring weaknesses at this point. so, i guess time will tell.
I disagree.
I love Andre, but he has missed time before. He missed three games last year and we scored 31, 23 and 34 points in those games (Oakland, Denver and Jacksonville respectively). It would kill me if he missed significant time, but I think we could survive without him. There are plenty of weapons on offense, especially with OD finally healthy again and Casey primed for more PT.
Instead of drafting a receiver with third round or better pick, I’d rather we take a look at the current waiver wire; there are a small handful of receivers with potential out there.
This makes it sound like I think Andre is expendable, but that’s far from the truth. I just don’t think losing him would be as crippling as you seem to be implying.
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we agree to disagree.
there’s a difference b/w a few games and an entire season. we’d get figured out, and there’s noone on our squad who can take over what he does. I say, there’s nothing wrong in using a high pick to find a guy who can fill his shoes. B/c there is noone on our roster at the moment who can.
Injuries are difficult to predict.
By “significant time” I didn’t really mean the entire season, although anything can happen. I just think with a strong running game and the diverse weapons we have in the passing game, Andre is more a luxury than a requirement to make this offense work. Certainly he helps, but there are several teams out there with strong offenses that do it without a superstar receiver (Chargers last year, for example).
I’d love to get a good #2 opposite of Andre, something like what they think JJ can become, I just don’t see it as high a priority as strengthening the offensive line or the defensive front seven. I’m keeping an eye on Donnie Avery because, if healthy, I think he can be a really good slot receiver and I’d love for us to take a flier on him.
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Yes
Old news is old
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Of course it is as I am old
But you should refrain from personal attacks
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry, but I'm laughing.
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Pancakes Reporting:
Texans resigned Brett “The Hitman” Hartmann and waived Jesse Nading.
really?
I find that Odd
Nading was pretty decent in preseason
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
It's official then, Braman is the second string WOLB
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, they cut a Colorado State guy??
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by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions
2 in one year
DAnderson and Nading. very interesting.
4 if you count the UDFA guys
Miller & Pauga
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by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes!
We could sign him for a record 12th time!
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I thought Nading was good in pass rushing, but sometimes the OLB has to cover
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True
But he was playing Mario’s role
Almost never covering
He played well – Then again the source is pancakes – I would like to check again tomorrow to see if it is true
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
That’s…interesting.
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Probably realized Maynard sucked after the Vikings game
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If I were to guess
Shawn Michaels had something to do with it.
by HTown4Eva on Sep 4, 2011 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I like Braman, but Nading is so much more polished.
This move makes no sense, especially since we are a playoff team this year.
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by bone31crusher on Sep 4, 2011 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Can he hit a target?
Throwing between goal posts isn’t that big a deal
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
May not be that impressive to you but..
its an upgrade from Matt Turk… and it’s nice to know your punter isn’t some skinny punk..
by Slightly Obsessed on Sep 4, 2011 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
quite the contrary
dude is freaking ripped. Ok, I’m gonna stop now.
Im not on the THoliday bandwagon either, but why couldn’t you turn him into a wes welker like receiver? Im not saying he can catch like him, but if you drag him down the line, you create a mismatch vs a LB. Im not saying it would work, im just saying it might be worth thinking. Throwing lanes might be a problem but it works for Tom Brady.
by zegion on Sep 4, 2011 8:21 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
And how exactly is Schaub supposed to see him with the O-Line & D-Line between them?
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by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
His ability to play receiver really doesn't concern me.
If the guy could truly become a badass in the return game, roster spots aren’t so valuable that you couldn’t devote one to a guy who is going to net you an extra 5-6 yards of field position on average. The problem is, he apparently has zero confidence at the pro level. He’s gotta find a way to regain that badassery he showed in college.
Have they tried Hypnosis?
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions
ya totally agree with that
After all, we do have a spot or a long snapper. I just don’t see anything from him in a talent perspective to warrant a roster spot period. I guess that’s the thought process of putting him on the ps, b/c his ability to contribute in special teams is worth the gamble i guess.
like i said throwing lanes might be a problem (am in not an LSU fan). I think with his speed he could catch a ball short and continue to run and create plays that way. However he would have to justify his existence, roster slots are just way to precious just for him to sit there on special teams only.
yet
we have a long snapper. and Dreesen could’ve done it.
which leads me to believe
they’re not adverse to keeping a pure special teamer. I’d prefer it to be honest: it’d save JJ’s health and Manning’s. There’s value in that.
yea i dont know what the love of keeping weeks.
i mean he has done his job but pretty sure any of the guys on the roster could do it too.
LS
Long snapping is a skill. hes got to get the ball back to the kicker/punter/whoever and then block. Im not saying anyone could do it, but im saying that for what ever reason hes managed to keep his job due to his accuracy.
yep
I agree that one of the 2 could do it. As a casey and a dressen fans i would totaly support them doing it to free up a roster slot. but as we say in the military, it is what it is.
thats what the military says too?
damn we have something in common lol. I also wonder if we really are going to keep two fullbacks?
I see no reason to
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The Jags are carrying three.
I prefer to think of us carrying 1.5 fullbacks in anticipation of Kubiak doing some really creative stuff with Casey.
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I agree with that.
I don’t see a reason to carry three TEs as well as James Casey, unless Graham is just that much better of a blocker than the rest.
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GGGGGGGGGGGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“It is what it is” kills me to no end. My old boss used to say that all the time because he was an incompetent piece of shit, and that was his excuse for never-ending failure.
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lulz
Have a cool one and relax :)
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
I really hate that fucker. Total and complete prick.
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I have a (some) Boss(es) like that
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Who's this Sera chick and is she hot?
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Newb rec
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then again the hoodie might jedi fuck the colts into giving him the number one pick.
so he can get luck.
They just got Mallet
Why would they go after Luck?
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by The Night Owl on Sep 4, 2011 8:32 PM CDT up reply actions
quite frankly
I’d trade to get Mallett. He could be a stud in the future.
Mallett is alread considered the heir apparent in NE to Brady
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Then I don't think he could take over for Brady
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i said luck could take over for brady.
what i am saying is that pats have no love for players they can just let them go like it is nothing, which i think they could do with mallet.
Well Mallett is there now and Luck won't be available until next year
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Yes, I saw how you said something about the hoodie mindfing the Colts
Not sure how Merriweather fits back into the picture seeing how the hoodie already cut him out. And, then you said they could trade Mallett to the Cowboys. Somehow you are bringing it back to the Pats somehow getting the Colts 1st round pick? You are thinking the Colts are finishing dead last? And, they want Mallett? Which leaves the Pats with no Mallett for this season. Okay, I think you are twisted on this Southpaw and totally fabricating something that only you are getting. You could be doubled over laughing out loud over this, which is good, at least someone is getting it.
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I thought the random thought was funny as hell... ;- )
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Yes, I saw you LULZing
I thought I added my two cents with the misdirection, but no, no one noticed….. overlooked again.
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LMAO...Jedi Fuck...
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Okay, Chuckiepoo gets part of this, too. He likes the Jedi mfing part. Good....
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Sorry, dude. It's just the image of the hoodie turning slowly toward the camera on the sideline and
we catch just a glimpse of the emperor before he melds back to Belichek.
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Yes, yes, did you see the pics I posted of the two of them the other day?
No, no, of course you didn’t….. the unseen comic, I am….
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Of course I did and rec'd.
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So said Gene Gene the Dancing Machine
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
The only quality thing made in Turkey
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
People need to remember...
Manning’s contract is 5 years.
I don’t think they’re drafting a round 1 quarterback to sit for years.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Here's one for you
With Manning going in for surgery and the Colts most likely wanting a 3rd QB…right now they have Collins and Curtis Painter. They cut Orlovsky, who didn’t look half bad in preseason. Do they bring him back? Or, do they go find someone else?
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Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
by taylorrohrman on Sep 4, 2011 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
damn taylor
your quick trigger makes me laugh like crazy and disturbs me. You were fully prepared with a Brett Favre picture ready to go in seconds. Impressive.
Gracias.
…your lucky I got the right one.
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Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
by taylorrohrman on Sep 4, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
True
But you are still banned.
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Oops.
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Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
by taylorrohrman on Sep 4, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh.
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Most likely resign Dan O.
He is familiar with the offense already.
But i think they’ll stick with Collins and Painter.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
i can hear it now.
" hey Dan, sorry about cutting you. Could please come back and tell us more about Houston’s offense? pretty please."
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Can we all at least agree on this?
I’m elated Todd Haley isn’t our head coach.
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Yeah he may have screwed their season.
Cassel with cracked ribs and their upcoming star TE out with a torn ACL.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
He better!
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Genius move on his part
So they can “be ready”
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Uh people still crying about our #2 WR not putting up sexy numbers?
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Trade Mario!
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
What's weird is that Walter's numbers compare to most #2 WR's in the NFL last season.
I’m not sure why so many people think he’s not a good WR. The fact our offense passing offense has huge contributions from the TE’s and RB’s it’s impressive his numbers were as high as they were last year. Especially with Jacoby getting like 28 more catches compared to his 2009 season.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I know
I wrote an article on it.
The whole #2 receiver thing is pretty stupid
That and the Mario isn’t working out thing is dumb too
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope Mario works out, but if he doesn't and this team goes to the playoffs
Fuck Mario. Let him work it out in therapy.
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I mean
maybe in a statistical sense it’s “stupid,” but it would sure placate the fear that if Andre were to go down, we’d have a competent #1 possibility, or at the very least: depth at the position.
Polain "know nothing" about Manning having another surgery
According to NFL.com
Sorry – can’t paste the URL into the link window w iPad.
They call it a "Royale with Cheese".
Ah, the Sgt Schultz response
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Polian is still trying to figure out how Collins got on the roster....
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No one said he is smart
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
In fact.....
We all know that Manning runs that team anyways. The offensive side of the ball, at least. No question.
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ESPN: No new procedure scheduled for Manning at this time
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6931858/peyton-manning-neck-being-re-evaluated-doctors-sources-say
Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning is being re-evaluated by several doctors because of the slow progress in his rehab from offseason neck surgery, sources familiar with his medical condition told ESPN…
However, the sources said that no new procedure on Manning’s neck is scheduled at this time.
They call it a "Royale with Cheese".
So a sort-of confirmation
Maybe he needs a five head reduction so his neck isn’t strained
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by Barryfromtexas on Sep 4, 2011 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
I know a vet that can do that procedure
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by Rip Jersey on Sep 4, 2011 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're killing me dude...lulz
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Finally, some recognition... and a rec, too!
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Slaton
Ok, we kept Slaton, aside from one good year running, we know he can catch a ball from the backfield. So here are my thoughts on keeping Slaton.
1) We are setting him up for a trade to a non divisional opponent. He would have some value, maybe a 6th round pick or proven but older veteran receiver/lineman/long snapper/ TE. I mean he was a 1,000 yard rusher and there a few teams out there that need one as a back up.
2) Move him to the WR 5 slot. I know hes not a big WR like Kub likes, but he can catch a ball out of the back field and has decent speed. Just dont ask him to pound the ball in the inside, he will fumble it. Its not like WR5 gets that much playing time anyway in our offense. Mostly special teams play. If things go south with our running backs (o please god no) he could fill in there again. Just dont let him be returning anything.
3) hes there because kube has no idea what he wants
Of those, number two is most likely though there is a fourth option.
4) Kubiak is unsure about Foster’s hammy and wants to keep Slaton, who has proven he can succeed in this league, as insurance in case Foster has to miss some time. Once Foster is back healthy, Slaton will be cut loose provided he hasn’t performed exceptionally well. In that case, we may have a very good problem on our hands.
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Yeah i should have thought of 4.
I dont think my second option is all that viable though. I think a combo of #4 and #1 are going to happen. He would have some value as a trade and by keeping him we have insurance on our running backs. Who always seem to get hurt.
I Kinda like the idea of him lining up like a receiver. You tell him he has a chance to make the team in a new capacity, and maybe we can get some new life out of him. Hes faster then Dreesen or Casey but I would say he can’t block like either of them can.
I agree with your take, especially that we don't want Slaton going to a divisional opponent
The Colts RBs suck and Jacksonville has taken injuries to their RBs. There is all likelihood that these two teams will pick him up if released, therefore, that’s why he is still on the team. That’s my 2 cents on Slaton, for what it’s worth.
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This is almost certainly true.
Otherwise, it doesn’t make much sense to have four RBs on the roster. I would imagine Foster is going to miss 3-4 weeks. Or perhaps it’s more of an indicator that our other back-ups also have injury issues.
Also, there’s a fifth possible reason, and I mentioned this in the comments of a training camp recap a few weeks back: Slaton can pick up the blitz. Kubiak is a sucker for RBs who can hold their own in pass protection. So if Kubiak is convinced that Slaton has overcome his fumblitis, it makes sense hang onto the RB who is the best blocker and receiving back on your team.
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