What Ravens Fans Are Saying And Why We Might Be Beating, Not Eating, Crow With Talk Of A Win
by LadyTexans on Jan 11, 2012 8:38 PM CST
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PrintSo, I've been spending some time on Baltimore forums chatting with Ravens fans about our upcoming game. It's interesting to hear what they have to say and I really do enjoy the conversation. For the most part, they're respectful when treated in kind. Of course, I feel there's a sense of tolerance because they feel we don't really have a chance.
In fact, I just made a bet that I'd change my profile pic to me in Ravens gear if we lose on Sunday (they have to wear Texans gear if we win)...though I haven't gotten full acceptance of terms yet. Here is my list of reasons why I felt comfortable making the bet and why, although I feel Ravens fans have reasons to be confident, I think we can/will win. Tell me what you think.
1) Ravens fans keep bringing up the fact that we lost to them in Week 6. Who cares?
- We didn't have Andre Johnson (the best WR and the heart of our team).
- Arian Foster had his worst game ever and will NEVER play that way again.
- We were winning that game until the 3rd quarter when we just tanked.
- Our defense is even more solid now than it was then.
2) Ravens fans view T. J. Yates as a huge liability.
- Yates has gotten us to this game.
- Yates played with a QB rating in the upper 90s last Saturday and seems to thrive under pressure (clutch TD in Cincy?).
- Joe Flacco is a moderate QB, so Yates doesn't need to be a Brady or Brees.
- Our offense can keep the physical and mental pressure off Yates if they bring their "A" game.
3) Ravens fans keep touting statistics and records about playing at home and winning against us.
- Statistics can be used in anyone's favor and records will be broken.
- We're all about breaking records this year.
- As far as statistics go, Flacco is an epic fail when it comes to advancing in the playoffs.
- Stat: We're #2 in defense and they're #3. Sure, we've lost in past years, when our defense was #30.
4) Ravens fans think Ray Rice is better than Arian Foster.
- Foster has rushed for an average of about 7 more yards per game played than Rice (and that isn't including the time he didn't play when Wade was gone and the new guy pulled him, etc.)...despite having to deal with learning 3 new quarterbacks.
- Foster has rushed for .01 (lol) more touchdowns per game played than Rice...once again, despite having to deal with learning 3 new quarterbacks.
- Foster is going to be seeking revenge for his weak play in the Week 6 game against the Ravens.
- Foster moves like a graceful locomotive. Can there be such a thing? He can switch it up and come back in better than Rice. Okay, this is opinion, but many "experts" agree.
- Foster has Tate.
5) Ravens think the home advantage/ bye week rest can't be overcome.
- The pressure on the Ravens is going to be crazy. If they don't make it to/win the Super Bowl this year, it will be seen as a failure. That pressure could break them down and force some mistakes if we keep things close/move ahead.
- We have the momentum of a playoff win to ride.
- We managed to make it through our game with no real injuries, so even though the rest would have been nice, we're okay without it.
6) Ravens fans underestimate the magical element around the Texans this year.
- Texans like being the underdog.
- We have players that seem to come from nowhere and make big plays in key moments (Say Watt, lol?)
- We've been told we can't, but we still DO.
GO TEXANS!
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Very nice.
I was wondering if/when you’d come over and join us :-)
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^This
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by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
I welcome the Ravens fans and the media to continue telling me that the Ravens have a lock on this one
Agreed on a lot of points, especially about the game earlier this season. This Texans team and that Texans team feel streets apart.
It’s also funny how they forget how close that game was…29-14 is smoke and mirrors.
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We had the lead in the fourth quarter after that Jacoby TD.
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Agreed. Hardly a blow out and that game feels like forever ago. And there were also some funky calls in that game. I’m not saying that we lost because of them…I just don’t think it helped our momentum. I hope we can continue to avoid penalties the way we have lately. We’ve definitely improved in that aspect since the beginning of the year.
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line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I also don't think Flacco makes so many miracle throws this time
how many times did he make a great pass moments before being pasted by Barwin?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
That was him in the Jags game
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by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:12 PM CST up reply actions
OU had won 3453953450 games at home
then they played an AWFUL tech team
Ou had won the last 8 bedlam games…… they lost by 34!!!!!!
stats are for losers
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by AllenOU on Jan 11, 2012 2:31 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Awful is being too nice to Tech, our Defense couldn't stop a pop-warner team
"It was like the Alamo!"
Why did you have to bring that up??
That was the one game I chose to go to this year… It was miserable in every way.
Nice assesment...
I hope to see some Ravens fan wearing Texans gear.
How long does the pic have to stay up? And make sure you get that picture saved on your hard drive as soon as you see it…
I've got nothin'...
Thank you sir. We’ve decided on colors and holding signs for one another’s team. I’m definitely hoping to avoid wearing purple. It’s just not my color, lol.
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If you must wear purple... please wear a Barney suit to mock them as hard as possible.
I've got nothin'...
by Bennyscrap on Jan 11, 2012 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Agreed on the Birthday suit.
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by El.Dude on Jan 12, 2012 9:11 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I respect their home record and everything.
But the fact they think a win is all but guaranteed is quite annoying.
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yes
they absolutely deserve to be the favorites. They earned it. If they think that 100 percent we are going out without a fight they can die in a fire.
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by nolander on Jan 11, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I just feel like we don’t get respect from anywhere. TBone is the media darling, but we’re the real story. That’s alright. We’ll be a movie someday, lol.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
fuck respect
its better that the Texans are being doubted, keeps them focused.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
That does seem to work.
If we beat the Ravens though on Sunday, we’re going to be getting a lot of respect.
Nah it will be just like this last win over the Bengals
“That Bengals team made so many mistakes they just gave the game away to that other team they played….the name escapes me but it’s another city in Texas outside of Dallas.”
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Unless we're playing the Patriots
Then it’s game over for us again, despite them not playing well against teams with winning records (zero or one? I know it wasn’t many) and their ABYSMAL defense. Brady also because master happy feet when under pressure.
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
Or the Tebows
If we were to face the Broncos you know who the story will be a bout, and it won’t be us.
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pfft, don't let it bother you
it will feel that much sweeter if we win. I hope their team feels that way too, because over confidence on their part would pretty much guarantee a Texans win.
Its like roulette. They obviously don't understand this.
If red comes up 10 times in a row, the odds of it coming up again remain unchanged, because the past no effect on the future and each roll of the roulette ball is completely independent.
It doesn’t matter if they are 8-0 at home. They still need to go 1-0 this week. 8-0 does not help this.
It doesn’t matter if they won against every rookie QB that has ever entered the stadium. Those players will be watching this game on television.
This is a much different game than any games of the past. They need to worry about this week, because each week right now is its own season.
True but not true
You’re leaving out the human part of this.
Like I said in an earlier thread, I see this game as a coin-flipper. Nobody is going to get blown out in Baltimore, but I don’t feel comfortable guaranteeing a win. This should be a rally good game either way.
Just your average, run of the mill hardcore casual Texans fan.
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Tally ho
and such.
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They're old
I get that with age comes experience, but c’mon. Some of their players can’t play entire games because of their age. I’ll take our young and strong team any day. We’re going to have them for years to come.
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Reed is a shadow of his former self.
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I saw that he has an injured shoulder.
Just seems to me that their safety play can be exploited.
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I still wouldn't underestimate Reed
Tempting fate and playing with fire, there. But Pollard? I’m not sure how they’ve been using him in their scheme, but I’m okay with throwing to whoever he’s covering all day.
by brightshinies on Jan 11, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
I think Pollard has been doing well for the, but good riddance for us.
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Pollard played very well for us in 2009 season
He played with ALOT of heart. And he does magical things like block field goals or extra points — something like that in the 2010 game against the Redskins. Either way, THAT kind of talent can’t be taught.
I’m just happy that the Ravens were able to put Pollard to good use. Our secondary was sucking way too much last season and Frank Bush ran Pollard ragged — or Pollard himself felt it was his job to try to make up for the craptastic secondary performance of the 2010 season.
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by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 5:51 AM CST up reply actions
This is not true
Lewis and Reed are the only “old” guys on D, and they can still impact a game, although they are definitely not the same players they were a few years ago. Our new core players on D are Ngata and Suggs, and plenty of good younger guys who most people don’t know because they get overshadowed.
They still in honeymoon phase with Pollard too.
Hopefully Kubiak finds ways to isolate him in coverage so the Raven fans can see what we saw from him last year.
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He actually made good plays in coverage when we played him earlier this year
but they are a team that has enough depth that they don’t have to put him in the situation where he can e exploited
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Their depth at CB is pretty impressive.
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Very true
and Pollard isn’t used a ton in coverage for us, and when he has been, he’s done better than I expected, after reading up on him when we signed him.
Yeah we're using him as more of a mid range or on the line enforcer which he has excelled at.
We swap in Tom Zbikowski every now and then and it seems like he does more of the coverage duties.
I’m guessing your scheme from last year just didn’t suit a SS like him so he was left to do things he wasn’t made for. He’s been making some plays in Baltimore. I’d probably blame Frank Bush for making him play with his weaknesses rather than using his strengths.
by Roa on Jan 11, 2012 7:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
All safe assumptions.
Frank Bush doesn’t know the first thing about defense. But, also too, Pollard was horrendous in coverage last year.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 11, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Stop talking about Pollard! It will give me nightmares.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
This
It makes me miss him. My mancrush on 31 is well-documented. I know he can’t cover and all of that, but there has to be a place in the Texans secondary for a trained killa.
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With Manning
I bet Pollard would of had a better season, Eugen Wilson was long over due on canning his NFL “Career”
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I been over there too chatting it up with those guys.
One thing they have forgotten about is that their kicker saved their butt. 5 field goals, our defense was better then they think, we just needed to finish them. We had so many shots on Flaco, in which he got lucky. I am sorry i think we got this. Even though ray rice ran over 100yard and flaco three for 300. Flaco did not throw a TD and ray did not run one in. This game is going to be so much better just you wait.
I think
Flacco got very lucky on those 2 passes he threw up for grabs that ended up accounting for more than 1/3 of his total yards in the air. Those were not good passes and could have been picked off or incomplete just as easily as they were caught. If he is counting on that this time, I would bet he would be disappointed.
by Bobbythegreat on Jan 11, 2012 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Finally somebody with some sense.
Yes he did get lucky on thos passes, matter of fact think Barwin might have been there both times. I guess he got the scouting report down though, just throw it up toward kareem side and just know it will be ok.
by southpaw70 on Jan 11, 2012 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I just hope we keep the pressure of Yates so that he doesn’t make any bad hasty decisions. he did that once or twice in Saturday’s game-and the Ravens won’t let him get away with it.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Very nice point. I think they’re so content with how good their defense is, which they are, they’re forgetting ours. Plus they feel that our defense is only ranked higher because of the teams we played.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
thank you
their D is good but i would take ours everyday of the week, and that is with kareem “my bad” jackson.
They have a point. The teams we played weren't.....
Oh wait…didn’t we play their division?
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by TexansForever on Jan 12, 2012 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
Good write up! and rec'd
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I think it is a pretty safe bet if you took the points
I think the game will be within a field goal either way. I see a very physical, low scoring game. Turnovers will probably decide it. What concerns me the most is that Rackers has missed a couple field goals lately. We can’t afford him missing any this coming weekend.
On a side note, I am not nearly as sold on Yates as a lot of people seem to be. I give him a lot of credit for not trying to do more than he is capable of doing, and I think he has the potential to be better than Schaub a couple years down the road, but I dont think he is there yet (nor would I expect him to be there as a rookie).
The main thing I think he is missing at this point is experience. He doesnt yet recognize (at least not quickly enough) where the gaps in the defensive coverages are. Because of that he has missed seeing some wide open receivers or has thrown too late and given the defense time to recover.
by BleachBum on Jan 11, 2012 4:14 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Completely agree with the Rackers comment. You should be able to go into a field goal with confidence. We have to be able to capitalize on those because we know the Ravens will.
He’s a rookie, so unfortunately he is going to miss seeing the big picture. Luckily he has Andre to go for now, as well as Foster. The more chances at someone being open that we can offer him, the better. I think he gets to a point where he’s looking for someone, can’t find them, then gets flustered or takes too much time and gets taken down or throws a ball that could be an easy interception. That can’t happen in Baltimore. He made a couple scary passes on Saturday.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I wouldn't be too concerned about the FG situation.
Billy Cundiff has been playing hurt for weeks (we emergency signed a kicker for week 16) and has uncharacteristically shanked a few kicks he would have hit 10/10 times last year. We’re probably about equal there.
Didn’t know that. Thanks for the info. Who did you sign as your emergency kicker?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
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Shayne Graham. He did well enough, no mistakes or anything.
I believe he was cut again though and Billy is probably healthier with the bye week and time off. Though I’m sure his rhythm is in shambles and that can be bad for some kickers. Could go either way.
After re-watching the week 6 game I remembered:
- Schaub is money on the short crossing routes.
- Schaub is lead-footed.
If TJ can do the first thing as well as Schaub, we’ll score 21 points.
I think Schaub is excellent on short passes, he’s very accurate. I actually think that Yates is more maneuverable than Schaub.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Yates is so much better improvising.
That also lends itself to bad decisions, though.
True. And we can’t afford bad decisions with the Ravens. He only made a couple mistakes/bad passes on Saturday, though. Luckily, the Bengals didn’t capitalize on them. There was one throw that should have been an interception, no doubt.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Hope you guys bury them this weekend.
Flacco is the most over rated QB in the NFL. If he didnt have Rice as his check down, then they probably would’ve drafted another QB by now.
I'll disagree
That would be Sanchize.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 11, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
What ever are you talking about, bfd?
If it weren’t for Schotty, Sanchize would make Drew Brees look modest.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
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by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:18 PM CST up reply actions
damn
i don’t know what overrated means any more. if everyone talks about how bad someone is, is he overrated anymore? sanchez wasn’t very good this year, but who overrates him in the media today? oh well, good luck this week. i’m rooting for you guys to go all the way. cheers
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I think alot has to do with it
Because of BSPN’s east coast bias in the media, as well as your coach preordaining him the Sanchize, which he probably shouldn’t have done. People like to point out his playoff record, but it isn’t that hard when you lead the league in rushing and have the #1 defense in 2009 or 2010 or something like that.
I don’ know, I guess theres this perception out there that he’s really good because of his playoff record or that he’s on the rise because of his incremental improvement each year.
"He was in my way, so I got him out of the way." - Arian Foster
They tired out because our offense wasn’t doing much. Schaub was just getting mauled. Hopefully we can make some long drives this time and wear down the Ravens D instead.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Yeah, our offense didn't do them any favors.
I agree. If we can have some long drives, it’ll help tremendously.
tony romo would like to throw his interception into the ring as well
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
Hey guys, Ravens fan here
just wanted to come over and dispute a few of these things. We are confident in a win this weekend, as any fanbase should be, as I’m sure you guys are. Both of these teams are good on both sides of the ball, and have a legitimate shot at a win.
I’m sure most of you on here are great fans, but we’ve had a few arrogant, obnoxious Texans fans over on our site who want to do nothing but talk trash instead of football (and some good ones as well, including the LadyTexans, who wrote this post).
1) Ravens fans keep bringing up the fact that we lost to them in week 6. Who cares?
It shows prior success head to head, although both teams are different than they were then.
2) Ravens fans view Yates as a huge liability.
Yates has gotten us to this game.
(not really, Schaub did, I don’t think you’d be in the playoffs with Yates starting from day 1, although Yates did a better job than most expected)
3) Ravens fans keep touting statistics and records about playing at home and winning against us.
Statistics can be used in anyone’s favor and records will be broken.
We’re all about breaking records this year.
As far as statistics go, Flacco is an epic fail when it comes to advancing in the playoffs.
Ravens at home have the 3rd best record over the past 10 years and were 8-0 this year, it is a distinct advantage. Flacco is not an “epic fail” in the playoffs, unless you also say every other QB in the NFL is as well, because he’s won 4 playoff games over the past 3 years, how many other QBs can say that?
4) Ravens fans think Rice is better than Foster.
Not really, I’d call it even, neither side would trade one for the other.
5) Ravens think the home advantage/ bye week rest can’t be overcome.
The pressure on the Ravens is going to be crazy. If they don’t make it to/win the Superbowl this year, it will be seen as a failure. That pressure could break them down and force some mistakes if we keep things close/move ahead.
It absolutely can, but it’s just something that is in our favor. As far as pressure, we have a good mix of veterans and youth and solid coaching that get us ready to play in big games. Experience over the past few years helps also.
6) Ravens underestimate the magical element around the Texans this year.
Every fan base can say that, I’m sure Bengals fans were saying that about you guys.
I have always liked the Texans, I like a lot of your players and your style of play. I’ve been waiting for them to overtake the Colts for about 2 or 3 years now. I think you guys have a bright future, and with the Manning situation and the Titans and Jags just plain sucking, you should have the AFC South locked up for the foreseeable future. As far as this Sunday, it will definitely be a hard fought game, a defensive slug-fest that is the way football is meant to be played, but I think the Ravens have the advantage. Just my opinion, feel free to ask any questions about the Ravens and I’ll be glad to answer.
It’s clear on the Beat Down forums that it is believed that Rice is better than Foster. Especially clear on the blog about Rice being the best in the league. I chatted it up with a few people who had no qualms with telling me that Rice is better. Not trying to be rude, just stating.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Here's an example from the Ravens Beat Down:
Foster is a big back and looks a little heavier than his listed 230. He’s not really a break away threat. He can gash you for 10-15 but really not going to rip off a 50 yarder. His long this year is 40. That is good news considering he won’t match Rice’s game breaking ability and we have seen what a huge roll Rice’s 70 yard gallops have done for us and Flacco. We have speed in the LB position (even with Ray) so I don’t expect us losing track of Foster. This game is on Yates. M&T is extremely loud and crazy loud during the playoffs.
by raven on Jan 8, 2012 9:25 AM PST reply actions
“Good news is he won’t match Rice’s game breaking ability.” We’ll see.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Lol to that, but he isn’t the only one. However, as stated below, I agree with how any fan is obviously going to be biased towards there own player.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
"really not going to rip off a 50 yarder"
Didn’t he have one of those Saturday?
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
I know he had a 42 yard run for a TD.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
70 yard screen pass
Where he out ran the Tittles secondary that had angles
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
Recs of 60 yarder vs. Oakland, 78 against Tenn. and 78 against TB.
0.0
Ray Rice is better?
I think he’ll be even better next year. Hope we resign him.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
errrr....re-sign$ ;- )
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
Lol! Yes…re-sign. The other way would be awful. Now Kareem…
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
what's bad about my contract?
/kareem troll face
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I know you're not trying to be rude
You’ve been gracious here and on our site. Every fan is prone to use hyperbole when discussing their players. So when they have a player like Ray Rice, realistically he is top 3 in the league, their bias bumps him up to “he’s the best”. I’m sure you guys say the same about Foster, and honestly, both sides have a right to feel that way, they are definitely 2 of the best in the league.
Well, thank you. And you have been, as well. I agree about the hyperbole. That’s part of sports…loving your team unconditionally. And when you actually have a great player (which both Rice and Foster are), it goes from great to greatest…and there’s always room for subjectivity in evaluating because statistics don’t tell the whole story. It’s about watching what they do and being proud and amazed.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
^^^^^This^^^^
Perfect words. Proud and amazed. Exactly what I was back in the day when I had the pleasure of watching Earl in his prime. I hope I get year after year of feeling the same way about Foster.
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
Eat me, David Stern.
by Christopher H on Jan 12, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
Here it is straight from a Ravens fan:
Ray Rice is better than Foster. I’ll argue it every time. Foster is probably the second or third best in the league and any team would love to have him, but I like Ray Rice. Maybe that is homerism but can you honestly tell me your belief that Foster is better than Rice is based on facts alone?
I really would. I think Foster’s numbers speak well for him…despite having to learn 3 new quarterbacks, and that is never easy. You have to adjust to the way they do things. He also had an injury to deal with. And this is just my subjective comment now, but Foster is an amazing mover. He can see what someone is going to do an avoid it with ease. he cuts in and out, avoids going out of bounds, stiff arms defenders and makes his way by. With this “new” Texans team, he’s going to flourish. he just keeps getting better.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
*and
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Besides the injury all those things can be applied to Ray Rice.
Numbers don’t lie for him either. Ray has had two 2,000 yard seasons including this year.
You can’t apply having to learn 3 new QBs in a month to Rice.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
No but I don't feel like that is all that important. Some chemistry is needed but an NFL quality RB shouldn't have issues with handoffs and pitches.
How about this: Rice has had some pretty lackluster offensive lines to work with. This year everything is starting to click again thanks to the key addition of Bryant McKinnie allowing everyone to play their natural positions but last year they were pretty terrible.
I think chemistry is incredibly important. And I think getting a feel for your teammate and having confidence in what you can do together is key. I do agree that Rice has had his own issues with disrupted chemistry.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Fair enough. There certainly are some plays where chemistry matters, draws/ screens and the like.
For that much we’ve been lucky as Joe and Rice have stayed together and been healthy enough to understand each other quite well.
Ray fits Baltimore, Arian fits Houston
That’s really all there is to it
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Jan 11, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Agree. Our team meshes quite well, as do the Ravens.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
The Human Coke Machine was actually pretty awesome for us when he was here in Houston
not really sure that Lawrence Vickers has been a Human Coke Machine replacement but he and THOR (James Casey) have done well.
I just miss Pollard and Leach ;-(.
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~~ Fuzion
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by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:12 AM CST up reply actions
Vickers
When he does get a block – it is usually a good one.
His problem is he inexplicably goes by a defender like he doesn’t see him to black someone else who wouldn’t even matter in a play. He seems to do this at least 3-4 times a game. On a few occasions, it has been really costly to the Texans.
Casey is by far a better blocker – I really don’t understand how Vickers still gets the starts.
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 8:13 AM CST up reply actions
Came here to say this
Both guys are really being used in ways which play to their strengths very well.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
by OremLK on Jan 11, 2012 11:46 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Foster had 2200 total yards last year (his first full-time year) and 1800 in 13 games this year.
Statistically, neither one is clearly better than the other, IMO. By average per game, Foster is better.
Foster also actually has longer career runs and catches than RR.
He’s a better blocker simply by virtue of his size.
Week 6 was one of Foster’s worst games this season. I absolutely think he’ll outplay RR on Sunday, if we don’t get behind early.
by willieboyd on Jan 11, 2012 8:53 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Foster already promised us he’d never play another game like the one against the Ravens. I believe him. :)
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
He has fumbled like 17 times since then.....
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
I think that’s an exaggeration.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
It is.
I like to use hyperbole for effect :)
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
He has fumbled 6 times
2 were kinda arguable and 2 were barely (and quickly recovered)
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe that is homerism but can you honestly tell me your belief that Foster is better than Rice is based on facts alone?
Facts posted in a fanshot. Have at it with your facts. =P
by willieboyd on Jan 11, 2012 9:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
niiiiiiiicccccce....
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
That fanshot was wreck'd and this post shall be wreck'd as well...
Good job, sir.
I've got nothin'...
Better is very subjective
I think Rice is better in space, but I think Foster has much better vision. Our running schemes are much different. I think the deciding factor for me is Ben Tate. He is better than Ricky Williams and has the straight line speed that Foster does not.
Playoffs in Houston: 18 years in the making.
Whether Ray Rice is better than Foster is irrelevant anyway
since we are dealing with a running game vs a running game. How good they are depends on several factors such as play calls, blocking, O line play, and substitutes. Frankly, I think the Texans have a better running game than the Ravens.
My point is this: If Foster is better than RR, it won’t mean squat if we don’t bring game. Likewise, RR may be better one on one, but you still lose if there is no team punching holes for him.
If you are comparing head to head for shitz and giggles, then I think Foster’s “per play stats” are better.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Is Ray Rice the running back that's about as tall as Halliday and 3 times as heavy?
I remember seeing a SHORT running back for one of the teams we played.
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~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 6:43 AM CST up reply actions
possibly
You may be thinking of Maurice Jones-Drew from Jaguars, but Ray Rice is very similar in size
MJD – 5’ 7" 208lbs
Rice – 5’ 8" 212lbs
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
They both remind me of bowling balls.
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Never try to baptize a cat.
haha! thanks =) I started to wonder if I was really thinking of Maurice Jones-Drew
So I appreciate your research there.
thanks!
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
I'd also call Foster v. Rice even
I think Foster’s a better runner (better vision, just as effective with no FB, can make great moves) but Rice’s a damned good receiver and blocker.
"Lord, beer me strength."
And the difference between them is small
They’re just slightly better at their own things.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Foster runs the screen better than anyone
save for maybe Sproles. This, I think tips the scales to Foster’s favor. If you’re looking at strictly rushing yards, I think Rice has the edge.
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
From a standpoint dealing strictly with screens
I’d have to toss Forte in there somewhere. Chicago finally figured that out last year.
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
Eat me, David Stern.
by Christopher H on Jan 12, 2012 8:30 PM CST up reply actions
I will say
I think your arguments, overall, are quite sound. There’s a reason the Ravens are here and have been. Your defense, especially Ngata, scares the Durga out of me.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
I just hope we can keep Yates protected…and at least keep him from any substantial injuries.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
If he doesn't stay upright
It’ll be a long game in a bad way.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
If they put Ngata on Wade Smith
We’re teh fucked.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Jan 11, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
should play casey studdard instead
he has a mean streak
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
Made me cry a little.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
To be honest, our ability to keep the pressure of Yates is my biggest concern. He’s not experienced enough to deal with constant pressure. He needs time to make plays.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Stack your left side with TE help and hope your right can match up one on one.
In the end Ngata demanding double teams and Suggs tearing into gaps is the biggest threat. We have as much pressure as anyone from the opposite end but Suggs and Ngata are a lights out all pro combo and if you try to spread thin and block everyone they’ll destroy you.
#nosetacklelust
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http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
If any of you have young babies at home I wouldn't ring Ngata for a booty call.
Never know when he’ll have to feed.
so thats how ray ray keeps him fed.
good to know
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Antonio Cromartie is on speed-dial.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Jan 11, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Interesting fact: Our team was the only (or one of the only) teams to be beating the Ravens in the second half.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
and we managed to lose that game?
LOL not convinced that’s reassuring ;-).
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:16 AM CST up reply actions
Well, to be fair…our offense wasn’t doing so well and our D was exhausted. We need some long drives this time to give our D time to rest.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I think the Titans, Jaguars, and Chargers have issue with that statement.
I've got nothin'...
I think it is in reference to games at Baltimore
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 8:14 AM CST up reply actions
I think you may be right...
I've got nothin'...
If Ravens fans want to bring up stats for some things
Bring them up for all things.
Ravens suck at home playoff games – haven’t won a single home playoff game since the Texans have been in existence.
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
They don’t like that stat. I said something about them never advancing to a Superbowl from the playoffs and I was called insensitive and told that we haven’t either. But I only brought it up in the first place because they kept talking about how they never lose at home and we’ve only won one playoff game etc. etc.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
he have never lost
a playoff game at home!!!! nor have we ever lost a playoff game!
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Yates
2) Ravens fans view Yates as a huge liability.
Yates has gotten us to this game.
“(not really, Schaub did, I don’t think you’d be in the playoffs with Yates starting from day 1, although Yates did a better job than most expected)”
While it can be debated who got them to the playoffs, only one of the two was playing last week. If Yates was such a big liability that the Raven fans and the media make him out to be, we wouldnt be in this game, because we wouldnt have won last week.
Is he a rookie with little experience? Yes, but he has shown so far that he is as good as quite a few veteran starters on other teams. Is he elite? No, not yet at least. But he is no worse than say a Trent Dilfer or an Alex Smith. He can manage our Offense. You train for him as a liability, he will suprise you.
If Yates was a liability
Kubiak and the coaches would be getting another QB into practice and starting the game
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I said Yates got us to THIS game…not the playoffs. That was a joint effort. :) Not sure Leinart can really be included though, lol.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I agree
Was trying to quote the baltimore fan rebuttal, but it didnt turn out right.
I get It!
you are just trying to convince us to admit that you guys are the better team and capitulate now, so you don’t have to play us and find out you are wrong.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
its the playoffs.
crazy ish happens all the time. totally NOT outside the realm of possibility that the texans find a way to win this game.
Michael: The feeling that you're feeling is what many of us call...a feeling.
Gob: It's not like envy, or even hungry...
Speaking of crazy ish...
I seem to remember a QB that beat a black and yellow team that he wasn’t supposed to this weekend…
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
It’s a year for upsets…and I was reading an article from the Chronicle about how this year has been very similar to the Oiler’s playoff run with an inexperienced QB (due to injuries) in 1979. It could happen again.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Article
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Ummm…why won’t my link post?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Trying again...
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/01/mcclain-texans-ravens-game-has-a-familiar-ring-to-it/
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
by LadyTexans on Jan 11, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Links don't work in the subject line, by the way
by splanket on Jan 11, 2012 9:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Question for you guys
What’s the latest on the Daniels injury? We’ve been good at slowing down opposing TEs this year, but he’s a good player, and Yates will probably be looking his way a lot, because the Ravens will be looking to take away AJ, and I don’t think either team will have a huge day running the ball.
Good to go!
Head Coach Gary Kubiak
(on TE Owen Daniels’ injury) "Owen does have a hand issue. First off, it’s not going to keep him from playing. He’s fine. He’ll be back on the practice field when we get started on Wednesday. That’s nothing that’s going to hold him back. Still kind of in an evaluation process, but he went back in the game and he will be ready to go. It’s not an issue from that standpoint."
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Thanks
I heard some reports that he would need a cast, which made no sense to me because I also heard he was going to play…and I’m not sure how anyone could catch a football with a cast on.
Good Stuff!!! :)
Baltimore, like Pittsburgh, Indy and the NY Jets, will soon learn that the face of the AFC is changing! It’s long past time for some new blood… and I can’t think of a better time to show them, than right now!
GO TEXANS!!!
"It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America...Molly Ivins"
Agree with new blood needed. Pittsburgh fans, your era is ending. Steelers are out and Deep Blue Steel is in.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
by LadyTexans on Jan 11, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Preach on and hallelujah to that!
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Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 11, 2012 8:59 PM CST up reply actions
/passes hat
/just wants money for booze
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:23 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
AND ALL THE FOLLOWERS OF DURGA SAY
“AAAAAAMMMMMEEEEEENNNNNNNNN!”
I've got nothin'...
Hey, Tim!
IMO, this post should be moved to the front page.
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"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson
"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock
Never try to baptize a cat.
Thanks, texanslady. Love the name, btw. :)
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
okay now get closer to each other.......
/what do you mean its not that kinda site
/but all of the mods play with each other
/fine but next time dont send mixed signals
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 7:38 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
REC'd
For perviness I would have added to these comments!
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Follow @Joeeatstacos
This is now on the front page.
Tim is totally whipped.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
As if that's a bad thing...
/no maso
I've got nothin'...
Flacco is the key. He and Boldin beat us week 6. But if he plays like this:
In seven playoff games, he’s averaged 150 yards passing per game, throwing four touchdowns and seven interceptions.
I think we win.
To hear Ravens fans talk, Flacco has ice in his veins during the playoffs.
They ignore the numbers you posted, which is rather weak of them.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 11, 2012 8:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think they just feel that Flacco has improved this year and that he’s hungry to prove himself. I’m definitely hoping for a repeat of his previous showings though. I don’t think he ended out the season very well.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I just keep looking at the Ravens/Jags game from this season.
I’m hoping Flacco decides to give a repeat of that performance.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 11, 2012 8:57 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Flacco had an unusual showing Week 6. Our D was tired and hit a wall…most of the scoring, as previously mentioned, was from Ravens field goals.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Playoffs are killing me
Week 1: Had to root against Brian Leonard
Week 2: Have to root against Ray Rice
AKA my two favorite players of my first favorite team in football. Prior to ‘02 I didn’t care for the NFL, and Rutgers was all of my football.
I can’t wait to have W’s against both of them though.
Free Earl. Occupy Reliant
by NewJerseyTexansFan on Jan 11, 2012 8:53 PM CST reply actions
I am generally against trolling.
But if the Texans win this game, I will bookmark Baltimore Beat Down and let their anguish sustain me for a few days.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 11, 2012 8:56 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You won’t need to troll. You can just roam Houston and celebrate with the fans that are sure to be out in droves.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I don’t plan on trolling…just reading their comments and grinning maniacally.
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by Stupendous Man on Jan 11, 2012 9:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You mean "lurking" then.
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Never try to baptize a cat.
Texans glasses off for a minute
I never really had a feeling in week 6 that we would win that game. I know it was close in the fourth and then the Ravens pulled away. But thats what the Ravens do. They did what they do and we couldn’t stop it. We didn’t get tired on accident, we got tired because the Ravens ground them down and won it in the fourth. Flacco made a few big throws and they did enough to win. Ravens have never won with style points, they are just consistantly good. Their defense has generally given us fits and if they shut down Foster, which they have shown the ability to do, I have a real problem picking the Texans to win. I understand why they are confident; I would be too.
I feel like our best chance to win is if Bad Flacco shows up and we can get some turnovers. If it just goes straight up toe-to-toe, I can seeing it get very ugly in the second half. I simply think that without some things ‘off the script’ going down, the Ravens are better.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Not true. We are the only team who had a lead on them in the second half this season. And that was with the poor performance by Foster and no Johnson to split the Ravens D.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
They are 12-4
At least four other teams had a lead on them in the second half.
Regardless, I hope your optimism rings true this Sunday. Of course I would love a Texans win this weekend, but if I had action on the game, it would be on Baltimore. Just a bad matchup. That being said, I think if we win this weekend, we will be in the Super Bowl, regardless of if it’s the fightin Tebows or the Patsies.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
If I had action on the game it would be on the Texans to keep it within 9.
I don’t forsee many outcomes where that is not a winning wager.
True
but I was just simplifying win/loss for arguments sake.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
BTW
if you happen to know a guy who knows a guy giving a 9 point spread, let your ol’ buddy JMFC know about it.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
That is insane.
Ravens don’t have the offense to sell that line; it will come down.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Let me qualify—only team that ended up losing to them that had a lead in the second half…and then blew it. Well, Vegas lost quite a bit of money on us this year, so this could be one more time.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
LOL but that's typical Texans fashion from last season
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:26 AM CST up reply actions
On paper, the Ravens are maybe the better team.
But the Steelers were the better team against the Broncos last Sunday. If the Texans are hungry enough, I think they may surprise Baltimore.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 11, 2012 9:01 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
broncos have holy power and divine intervention on their side.
your argument is invalid.
/tebow. just. parts. defenses. like. the. red. sea. and winz. teh. gamezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
We need a relative of Tebow in the pressbox on Sunday.
Hopefully some of his divinity will have rubbed off on them.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 11, 2012 9:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Let’s pool our money and get him a ticket.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
do you not read your bibles
Three part person here, he has the ability to be everywhere.
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 11, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
It's an open stadium
his dad will be watching
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
which himself
which is weird
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 11, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
We have Wade
/good enough
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:26 PM CST up reply actions
Love that man…don’t want him to go. Think he will?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I really do not know
What concerns me, is no one, no place, runs the same defense Wade does – who would replace him?
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
Hopefully nobody from the Falcons staff. And awww, Nosafeties…I’d hug a wade doll too. Doooooooooooon’t leave us. We need you…forever.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Love this.
Let’s do it.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
for now.
/extremely worried we might lose him
/do i pray to tebow, durga, chutulu, or kareem
/crying in the corner
/hugging wade doll
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
Their defense is good, but so is ours. And I think our offense, overall, is better. just depends on how we can protect Yates.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Couple of fun factors
Ravens have only won One home playoff game, granted that year they did win the Super Bowl.
Joe Flacco has 4 TD’s to 7 INTS in his playoff career, while completing only 53% of his passes.
Ray Lewis has been in the league 16 years, you take away that number from TJ Yates and he was in the 4th grade.
The top two remaning defenses will collide this weekend, and many others expect the other defense team (49ers) don’t have enough offense to Candle Stick around with Drew Brees.
The Top two Rushing teams are still alive in the playoffs.
The Texans are undefeated in playoff history
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
Meant this to be a reply. Love it. I think if we can make it past the Ravens, our D and rushing game could make it happen for us.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
...the field as the Saints score yet another touchdown against the 49ers.
Former Thane of Glamis and Cawdor.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 11, 2012 9:21 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
iswydt
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
what does this mean?
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
"I see what you did there."
Former Thane of Glamis and Cawdor.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 12, 2012 5:35 PM CST up reply actions
LOL
The Texans are undefeated in playoff history
I love the sound of that ;-).
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:29 AM CST up reply actions
Rice vs Foster
I know I’m going to come off as trolling or condescending and that is not my intention, but I had to get my point across. Please feel free to disagree or something if I irritate you. ****
I’d personally take Rice.
He puts up better rushing stats despite facing top run D’s. He faced 9 top 15 run D’s this year, compared to Foster only facing 7. Foster in those games vs top 15 run d’s put up 3.6 ypc. Rice put up 4.6 ypc. You guys are arguing that vs Baltimore was Foster’s worst game of his career and he’ll never be that bad again. Umm you guys do realize that A LOT of good RB’s do bad vs us week in an week out. Even when one gets 100 yards, it’s almost always(unless your name is Peyton Hillis) through quantity of runs and not quality ones. It’s not a rarity to do bad, so I don’t get your guys line of thinking there. Rice also led the league by a huge margin in total yards because he is the best receiving back in the NFL. And maybe only half of his receptions are off of 2 yard checkdowns despite popular belief. He runs routes and always seems to make one or two people miss per play. He was 3rd in the entire league in YAC. So combine his rushing vs good D and the inevitable that he’ll beat you through the air, and you get the most dangerous player in the NFL.
His rushing stats aren’t better. Foster leads rushing stats by 7 yards per game played. Foster did so badly against you because Johnson wasn’t around to split up your D.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
But one could also argue
That with our best o-lineman and pro-boll caliber guard, Ben Grubbs out for 6 weeks, the run game was mostly dysfunctional. Only one OLman consistently played in their normal position for the length of Grubbs injury(6 games). Having a good o-line is tough enough, but to swap players around left and right is terrible for the run game. Rice ypc in the 6 weeks Grubbs was out was 3.3. With Grubbs in the lineup was 5.4 ypc. Huge difference. i don’t doubt that not having AJ was critical as well, but I can’t imagine it being as bad as Grubb’s injury.
Johnson is the heart of our team, in addition to being the best at what he does. Not having him is critical, from a mental and physical standpoint.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
yep, sorry Oriolekid,
Lady Texans has the right of it. Andre Johnson is HUGE for our offense.
When we don’t have the deep threat, our running game suffers b/c the defenses don’t have to go double teaming Andre. If you DON’T double team Andre, then don’t say we didn’t warn you ;-).
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:34 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Even Triple Team!
Channing Crowder (Miami): “We were up by 4. It was like 4th and 18 on their own 20. Like they [Texans] had to go like 80 yards with a minute left in the game and we had to know he was getting the ball. We had to triple team.”
Mark Vandermeer (Announcer): “…and caught by Andre Johnson at the 41 yard line, an amazing grab!”
Channing Crowder (Miami): If you can’t triple team a guy, there’s nothing you can do. If you can’t cover that guy with three people, leave him alone. You might as well not cover him period. Might as well try to get lucky and hope he drops it."
@ the 4 min mark in this video (NFL Top 100):
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top100-2011/09000d5d82092a17/Top-100-Andre-Johnson
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
by MeMongo on Jan 13, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
wow! thank you for that link!
just awesome!
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 6:58 AM CST up reply actions
Lady Texans has the right of it. Andre Johnson is HUGE for our offense.
When we don’t have the deep threat, our running game suffers b/c the defenses don’t have to go double teaming Andre. If you DON’T double team Andre, then don’t say we didn’t warn you ;-).
Ray Rice doesn’t have Andre Johnson….ever, not just when he’s out with an injury. Their yards per carry are pretty identical, and I think they are the 2 most complete backs in the league, both teams are lucky to have the guy they have.
=)
both teams are lucky to have the guy they have.
I agree with you completely.
BUT you can’t tell me that the Ravens don’t have some kind of WR or killer TE to keep your running game going smoothly. Admittedly, we’ve burned through the running backs that can’t run behind our offensive line very well. We gave them walking papers so I totally agree with you that Arian Foster is special (So’s Ben Tate for that matter).
I’ll trust you since you’re an avid fan that Ray Rice is awesome in his own way (I won’t know the difference b/c I only have eyes for my Houston, Texans – they’re the only team I give a damn about ;-) * * *).
But I think that what I’ve gleaned from reading BRB and talking to other football fans is that a winning offense is like a well oiled machine. It has alot of moving parts. The way the Texans win is when their offense is balanced (like a see-saw might be) – and offers threats not just downfield in the passing game but also threats in the running game.
What I’m getting at is that Arian Foster’s success doesn’t just come from Arian Foster. If the Ravens don’t have some kind of deep threat then it SHOULD be easier for any team to stuff the run. Now if you’re making THAT case — that the Ravens have a negligible passing game then =o wow. That DOES make Ray Rice’s numbers impressive.
But Flacco has to be useful for more than just handing the ball off to Ray Rice ;-). So there must be SOME WRs and TEs there that help make Ray Rice’s job easier. And I can’t forget our beloved Vonta Leach! I went and voted for him tons so that he could go to the beach back in 2010 =). So Ray Rice has Vonta to thank too ;-) just like Arian has Vickers , Casey and the Offensive Line to thank.
I think I heard or read somewhere that the Ravens and the Texans are very similar NOW at least in defense. Maybe we’re similar in offense too?
I’m sure it will be a great game =).
- * * admits that she’s still a Colt McCoy and Jordan Shipley fangirl.
- * *also admits she was a Vince Young fangirl until VY showed his immaturity in the Tenn. stands in 2010
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 14, 2012 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
I heard an interview of Shawn King on SR610
and he did a good job describing some of the factors ’Dre brings to our offense that outway what Schaub can do without ’Dre (sort of settling the “Schaub without ’Dre” vs " ’Dre with TJ" argument). He also was spot on in his review of Flacco, which was far from flattering.
Good stuff!
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
To say that Johnson not playing prevented Foster from going off is short-sighted.
The Ravens are second best rush defense in the league with just over 90 a game. They run a solid scheme and have really good players running it. Will Foster play better than in week 6? Man I hope so. Is he running for a buck fitty? I doubt it
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
To not think that being able to double up on Foster because of no Johnson (who is the best, fact) didn’t allow you to put a block on Foster is foolish. You will be changing your D around to block Johnson and loosens things up for Foster. I guarantee you that your coach is making specific plans just for Johnson. If he isn’t, great for us. It will be a replay of Saturday’s touchdown. Johnson has shaken the rust of and he’s ready to go.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
JMFC is a Texans fan
He’s just being devils advocate/voice of reason
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I still feel that not having AJ changes things inys we can’t even begin to guess at. Devil’s advocate maybe….voice of reason, eh. I think he’s simplified things a bit much.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
by LadyTexans on Jan 11, 2012 9:43 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree. None of our receivers can stretch a defense like 'Dre
and that should open up the running game as it usually does
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
There will be less safety help against the run when we have 'Dre
but the Ravens are pretty stout up front anyhow.
Establishing stretch run plays should be helpful.
Passing to open up the running
I hope this will loosen up their front 7. The bootleg to Dre deep, or Walters second level.
Will be the first play the Texans run
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
We’ve got to pull it off. Yates can get off some passes, but we win with rushing. I’d like to see us come through big on the first drive when we’re fresh. It’d put Yates in a better frame of mind to have some points on the board.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Yates and Andre built some chemistry back when AJ was rehabbing from his first hamstring
so I think you’re right. We WILL pull it off. There’s that “Alright ! I know I can throw to Andre. He’ll catch it every time” sort of familiarity there.
/jedi mind trick
“ignore the passes that Andre missed against the Bengals. they were aberrations in AJ’s body of work”
;-)
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:40 AM CST up reply actions
LOL
bq.I guarantee you that your coach is making specific plans just for Johnson. If he isn’t, great for us.
Just because I disagree with some of your points does not make me a Ravens fan. I’m a shameless Texans homer. But I have a little sense too and realize styles make a fight, and this a bad fight for the Texans.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Glad you’re a Texans fan. :) doesn’t mean I agree with you. I think having Johnson loosens things up for Foster. I think it gives us a chance to wear down their D more. If we can make long drives and give our D time to rest, I think we have a fair shot.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
AGREED!
We are definitely better with Johnson on the field. And our defense is certainly better when they don’t have to play 60+ plays.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
exactly!
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:42 AM CST up reply actions
short sighted?
If AJ is out of the line up, which fearsome reciever is going to send the safeties backpedaling?? Jacoby? Walters? Nobody respected our passing game with AJ out, so they loaded the box. AJ out has a BIG impact on Foster’s performance.
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
by swikky on Jan 12, 2012 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
exactly!
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 6:59 AM CST up reply actions
Funnily...
And no joke, Rice and Foster are right down the line neck and neck. Incredible.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Wow. But hey, that works for me. Tate has been a welcome surprise for sure.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I'm surprised too
but Tate’s right in front….I also think his style might be better suited against Baltimore, but that’s a whole different story
"Lord, beer me strength."
I see what you are doing here
and I like it. Ravens usually cut off the cut back lanes very well due to their size and speed up front and their aggressive linebacker play. I can see where Tate may be the better matchup here.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
by JMFC on Jan 11, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Saw it and nailed it out of the park.
I’m with you, I think a healthy dose of Ben Tate will go a long way on Sunday.
"Lord, beer me strength."
If Tate got around 15 carries this game, it would not upset me at all.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Tate has been sneaky. You kind of forget about him, but he’s done quite a bit for us. He just gets overshadowed by Foster.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I've seemed to notice
They like to run sweeps with Tate.
Ya they will run a Stretch off tackel, yet the majority I remember seeing are sweeps
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
Do they run more sweeps
or does Tate just take them all the way to the edge more often?
I don’t personally know, but from what I’ve noticed, Foster is more likely to take a cutback before the designated hole, whereas Tate is more likely to run where the play is called. In my opinion, this is what makes the duo so much more effective than one would be without the other.
by Tailgate Andy on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 AM CST up reply actions
That’s probably because Foster is a beast at reading the other team’s defense and has the confidence/ability to take another path. Tate may feel more comfortable doing that in time.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I agree, and think it absolutely is because of Foster's vision.
I’m not sure how much you can improve vision. Even if you could, I think that as long as the two of them are in the same backfield, it’s better for Tate and Foster to maintain their current running styles.
by Tailgate Andy on Jan 12, 2012 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
i think tate just likes to hit people.
he knows foster is wearing them down from chasing sideline to sideline so he feels like her can dish out the pain and just keep going. at least from what i’ve seen.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
yeah I remember Tate saying when we drafted him that he wanted to hurt the defenders who TRIED to block him
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 7:01 AM CST up reply actions
Tate is huge in the total running game for the Texans
.
Arian Foster: 1224 yds rushing, 617 yds receiving: 1841 total yards (13 games)
Ben Tate: 942 yds rushing, 98 yds receiving: 1040 total yards
Texans were 58 yards away from having TWO 1,000 yard rushers on the same team in one season
Derrick Ward: 154 yds rushing
Texans Combined Total: 2,320 yds rushing, 715 yds receiving: 3035 total yards
.——-
Ray Rice: 1364 yds rushing, 704 yds receiving: 2068 total yards
Ricky Williams: 444 yds rushing, 83 yds receiving: 527 total yards
Anthony Allen: 8 yds rushing
Ravens Combined Total: 1,816 yds rushing, 787 yds receiving: 2603 total yards
.——
Texans have the edge by 432 total yards from RBs (not inclusive of FBs or QBs)
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
...
F**K Tebow and Vick, T.J.’s 3rd and 14 run was the best QB run this year.
(not inclusive of FBs or QBs)
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Jan 11, 2012 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
THIS was my freaking point above.
this is about a running game vs a running game, not Foster vs Rice
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 2:34 PM CST up reply actions
are y'all talking about "Ben PARTICLES Tate"?
LOL gotta love Spencer Tillman’s invented names for players.
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:45 AM CST up reply actions
?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Replying to Oriolekid
He compares Rice’s 2011 numbers in 16 games to Arians 2011 numbers in 12.5 games (not much playing time versus Dolphins).
Over their careers, Arian averages more yards per rush, more yards per reception and many more touchdowns. Arain also had 2200 total yards last season, Rice has never approached this. Arian also has longer career runs and receptions in almost half the games (half the chances for career highs).
As DC pointed out the yardage adjusted for defenses is almost equal this year. Compare career averages, i guarantee Foster is better.
by willieboyd on Jan 11, 2012 9:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Just saying...
If Foster doesn’t miss three games, he easily outgains Rice in total yards. He led the league in yards from scrimmage last season, when he played in all 16 games.
In terms of rushing, on the season Rice had 1364 rushing yards, to Foster’s 1224. That’s only a 140 yard difference. And Foster missed THREE whole games.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 11, 2012 9:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
lulz
and tweeting about feeding ducks
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
When I read that Andre
it had me laughing for hours
"He was in my way, so I got him out of the way." - Arian Foster
Especially after they asked how Andre answers a duck picture.
He said, I just ignore him. lol
With all the focus on Foster and Andre
I wonder if we come out passing to Jacoby and Casey to get some big plays early. I would love to see a repeat of some of the things Casey was doing out of the FB position before his injury.
I was actually thinking about that to. I’m sure we’re cooking up some surprises and I think we could definitely catch them off guard.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
what if we ran the wish bone against them?
just a thought.
/playing footbaw games on ps3
/imagination running wild
/now to look for some food and pr0n
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Yes! Play out our game on Madden and send Kubiak and Wade your notes! :) Seriously though, what is a wish bone ?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
you line up 5 linemen as usual
the quarterback behind center. you have the full back right behind him. you then put two halfbacks behind but on both sides. so one on the left and one on the right. then on each side of the tackles you put a tight end.
TE LT LG C RG RT TE
QB
FB
HB HB
It’s power running formation. you balance out both sides and the defense doesn’t know which way you are going. you could go left or right but nothing tips your hand. it chews up the clock and wears down the d. i dont know how realistic it is in the nfl but i wouldn’t mind seeing it run once or twice. just to keep them on their toes.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:13 PM CST up reply actions
the site messes up the formating but here is a picture
you can sub the wideout’s for te and vice versa.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions
Ah…thank you. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that…or at least I haven’t recognized it.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
twss
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
What would make it impractical in the NFL?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
honestly im not sure.
my best guess is the speed of the nfl overpowers the play. the old timers around here would know a lot more than i do. they were around back when the play was first drawn up. i think it came out in the 50’s. 1850’s
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:21 PM CST up reply actions
Lol. Would they even know how to use the internet then? Plus, they’d be dead and therefore ghosts. That would add an entirely new difficulty level to computer usage.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
when i say old timers
i mean all of the mods. they are the oldest ones on here with your occasional poster. im 24 so i call anyone over 30 an old timer. they remember the oiler days and i never followed them.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:32 PM CST up reply actions
Lol, are you thrilled that you’re under 30?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I am an old timer
and damned proud of it
…now what was I saying?
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
Gee. Thanks.
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by UprootedTexan on Jan 12, 2012 9:06 AM CST up reply actions
I will beat you to death with my cane ya whippersnapper.
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Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 12, 2012 9:12 AM CST up reply actions
Get off my lawn!
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
by Foster Child on Jan 12, 2012 7:40 PM CST up reply actions
huh? some of us are still alive
(though my wife might argue that) and there are even some older than me who easily remember the stuff they came up with in the 50’s (my time is the 60’s)
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
He said 1850s, lol. Not 1950s. :)
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
professortex is a Civil War prospector
though as he says, his time is more the actual Civil War (1860’s) than leading up to it (1850s).
The wishbone was developed in the late 60's
It started as a formation but through variants has become an offense. It is frequently refered to as the “option offense” nowadays though. Most NFL coaches don’t use it because they think NFL caliber defenses are too good for it to work. It might however be viable as an occasional formation in Kubes offense, because the line can shift one way or the other to look like a a run play and the QB can drop into long pass with the FB and 2 HBs to block
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
the only problem with it is
that if Kubes showed the formation, then the opposing D would know something is up
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
the good thing about that is if the d isnt set they burn a timeout.
if they are then we could audible from a pass to a run or vice versa. like i said it isnt supposed to be a whole new formation we go to constantly. just something we could try one or twice to burn the d.
like when the dolphins used the wildcat for the first time on the pats. it can be successful here and there but not as your basic go to play every single time.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
But there might be time to score with the D laughing and rolling around
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
speed and reflexes of the NFL defensive players usually kills the effectiveness of the wishbone
It works in HS and College because those players are still mastering the craft of playing their role, and only a handful of them have the speed needed to nullify the various options the wishbone can generate.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
That
and gap discipline
If D players stay focused on their responsibility – the option isn’t a big deal
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:45 AM CST up reply actions
yep, speed and gap discipline combined with more effective disguises to coverage and blitz packages
just blows the option plays for offenses in the NFL
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
posted too soon before completing
That’s always the big issue with NFL defenses today, EVERYONE is ridiculously fast.
That also contributes to why so many QBs who look outstanding at the college level can’t cut it in the NFL. Their athletic talent level that once gave them a huge gap over average players, even to just take over a game, becomes equalized by 11 defensive players on the other side with outrageous speed and strength. The overall speed of the game also is compressed and the QB’s mental ability to read, adjust, and react is challenged beyond their comprehension for a season or two in most cases (hence the rookie QB concerns).
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
So true
Where in HS and college there are a few gifted athletes on the team, in pro – they are all the gifted ones
This is why shotgun is the preferred formation for rookie QBs
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
How do y’all think Yates is stacking up then, honestly?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
He has been playing fine
Better than expected
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 1:02 AM CST up reply actions
It's amazing how calm and unshakable he is playing
It is very unusual for a rookie QB. Take a look at Blaine Gabbert as an example of one coming apart under pressure this year (spool up some highlights of the Jacksonville game from NFL Sound FX when Cushing was mic’d up).
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Lol! How have I not seen that before? I’m assuming you’re talking about the reel when he cusses out Cushing?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
yep, and there's also the Browns one where Cushing is mic'd up
and Colt has a horrible day (I felt bad for the guy)
At least Colt McCoy did do one thing nice after the game. He hugged Cushing and said; “You guys make a run, ya hear?”
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Ah just checked, it was a parabolic dish that caught the Gabbert cussing not Cush's mic
that was just the Browns game
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
anyone got time to draw up the diagram of the "shotgun"?
just feeling kind of lazy . . . I could always google it.
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:52 AM CST up reply actions
Shotgun only refers to the position of the quarterback.
It’s when the quarterback lines up 5-10 yards behind the center. You could have a two running back shotgun formation, with two tight ends and one wide receiver in theory, but it’s more commonly used with 3, 4 or 5 wide receivers.
The benefit of the shotgun is that it gets a quarterback away from the line of scrimmage. This prevents him from having to worry about making reads while dropping back in the pocket, and also allows him to start out with a 5-10 yard cushion in case the O-line doesn’t block well.
by Tailgate Andy on Jan 12, 2012 9:46 AM CST up reply actions
would this be the kind of formation where abominably high snaps are ummm -- detrimental?
that sounds way far away. do the Texans really use that formation?
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 7:08 AM CST up reply actions
10 yards might be too far. I can't remember what the actual depth is supposed to be for a QB in the shotgun,
but yes. Shotgun is the formation we were in when Delhomme had the ball snapped over his head during the second Titans game.
by Tailgate Andy on Jan 13, 2012 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
You mean "the run and shoot"?
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 4:27 PM CST up reply actions
I haven't the foggiest clue
Someone up above mentioned a shotgun formation and a wishbone formation. But all we got was a diagram of the wishbone.
=) they say you have to almost know the answer before you can ask the question. I don’t even know enough to formulate a question.
I thought the run and shoot had to do with the mouseketeers? I think my father mentioned Mouse Davis? I really don’t remember. Some popular coach for the Gamblers back in the USFL?
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 7:11 AM CST up reply actions
Coach for the Oilers Jack Pardee?
He ran the “run and shoot” IIRC.
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Never try to baptize a cat.
Run and shoot is not a shotgun offense
And Mouse Davis did use the Run and shoot also
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 PM CST up reply actions
most cool! thank you for the charts
the “smash” and “choice” bits seems exceptionally interesting.
and thank you for the explanations.
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 14, 2012 12:43 AM CST up reply actions
thank you for the explanation
and thank you Lady Texans for asking the same question I was wondering.
=)
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 12, 2012 6:49 AM CST up reply actions
No problem. :) Apparently I need to play some Madden.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
LOL so THAT's how these guys learned it all
cool to know.
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 7:11 AM CST up reply actions
F the Wish bone
You just stack 8 in the box. Plus you need a good qb who can run
Division Champion Houston Texans
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
that's if you run the option with it.
or play action. i was talking about strictly loading up and just pushing your offense down the defenses throat. battle of wills. linemen love to push back when they get the chance. and with the cutblocking that we do i think it would be really effective
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
gah! what is "run the option"?
too much jargon ;-)
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 7:13 AM CST up reply actions
If you watched the LSU/'Bama game
LSU ran “the option” about as bad as I’ve ever seen it attempted.
Essentially it requires a QB who can run the football as if he were a RB. It should require durability, speed, vision, strength and many elements lacking in classic pocket passing QBs (at the NFL level). I say that because it is possible for a thin less athletic QB to succeed in HS and College against slower defenses. In the NFL, they need to be a QB built like Michael Vick, Tim Tebow, or somewhere in between.
In “the option”, the QB and RB run in unison to the outside. As the defense reacts and begin to sweep down the line, the QB has to “sell” that he is going to keep it and cut downfield to get the defenders to bite on him. If they show the bite, he then tosses the ball (lateral) back to the RB who continues the play while the QB soaks the defenders and buy the RB time. If the defenders don’t bite on the QB or the QB tries to sell that he’s going to lateral it to the RB and they track the RB instead, the QB keeps the ball and makes the cut downfield. In other words, the QB has “the option” to keep it or toss it back.
It fails often in the NFL for the same reason we discussed earlier about the “Wishbone”
http://www.battleredblog.com/2012/1/11/2699849/what-ravens-are-saying-and-why-we-might-be-beating-not-eating-crow#88426719
Players in NFL defenses maintain assignment discipline and have far too much speed compared to HS and College level players for “the option” to be very effective.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
awesomeness! thank you so much!
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 5:29 PM CST up reply actions
You really need a big back or Fullback to run the wishbone
At least at the pro level. The big back either gets the ball directly, or he’s blasting out a gap (Wishbone ISO or Blast) for the opposite RB. You’ll see the wishbone every once and a while, but its not about misdirection, its about putting the fullback right over the gap he intends to blow up.
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
which is what i want to do.
i would like to run it with vickers, tate, and casey as the formation with either casey or tate getting the ball.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
ok that sounds like fun to watch
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 7:15 AM CST up reply actions
I love Foster and prefer him to Rice or any other back
But let’s be realistic here, arguing over who is better between Foster, Rice and even Maurice Jones-Drew is like arguing who has the more effective nuclear cruise missile…they all get the job done extremely well and are tops in the league any given Sunday.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
by MeMongo on Jan 11, 2012 9:56 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
gotta wreck this,
pocket hercules is a beast.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
Love MJD and Greg Jones
hate that they play for the Jags.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
This
Foster vs. Rice is like the old Sanders vs. Emitt arguments. They are both insanely awesome at what each is asked to do for their offenses. They are top-tier RBs.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
For the record,
Barry.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Barry behind Cowboys line....
2000 yards, every year.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Plus, the Cowboys had Irvin to take the pressure off Barry.
Barry was basically a one-man offense. That being said, Emmitt was the toughest RB of all time.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Meh
Barry had some talent outside, his lines were always suspect though. Herman Moore was a beast for a few years. Barry’s magnificence was that he would run for 2, 2, -3, 2, 1, and then 74. Cowboys O-lines would just take over games.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Barry Sanders was ridiculous
No man should be able to make that many people miss.
God I miss watching him play on Sundays…curse you, Detroit for squandering him!
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Jan 11, 2012 10:09 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Well it has been fun stopping by.
Good luck Sunday.
I'm sure you will nose around again
Till then
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Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
by WreckNTexan on Jan 11, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
Come on by anytime!
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
So, if we win the toss...
what do you think we’ll do?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Score 7
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
by Antho10000 on Jan 11, 2012 10:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
We want the ball and we're gonna score.
/Hasselbeck’d.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Dear god,
That’s still hilarious. He did still throw a T.D. pass that drive.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Jan 11, 2012 10:57 PM CST up reply actions
to the other team.
but let nots get lost in the details.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 10:58 PM CST up reply actions
Al Harris thought it was an excellent pass
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
BANNED!!
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by UprootedTexan on Jan 11, 2012 11:56 PM CST up reply actions
Kubes will receive,
but he should defer.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Why do you think that?
Just curious. I’m trying to decide what I think.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I always lean toward kicking off first.
If you are losing at the half, you get the ball first. If you are winning, you get to play add-on. People are still milling around at the start of the third, so it’s usually quieter. And I don’t want my defense sitting around for nine minutes if my offense gets a drive going. Those boys are jacked at kickoff and want them on the field tearing shit up. When I was playing, I ALWAYS wanted to be on defense first for that alone. So much nervous energy…
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
That's what we always did
but then again we had a lights out defense that sent two to the NFL along with our QB in those days of old.
Kubiak should consider deferring with the Baltimore crowd being so amped up that they might not hush enough for their first offensive series.
If it’s a tight game as we suspect, that gives Kubiak a chance to make adjustments and script the opening series to maintain or shift the momentum by receiving in the second half.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I lean toward kicking off first as well for the same reasons.
I just don’t like the situation of giving up a score at the end of the half and having to give your opponent the ball again right away. It’s as if you just gave up a score and threw an interception on the first following offensive play.
Kubes, being an offensive mind, probably likes to receive and score right away to deflate the opposing D as well as giving the Defense a wider margin of error, maybe also to encourage more passing so our D can pass rush.
We play better with a lead
but kicking off might give us the best field position to do that if we can force them into a 3 and out and a punt.
agreed. hitting the field 1st on D was the best.
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
Kubes NEVER defers
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Maybe
I just feel like he always receives. IIRC he mentioned something on the radio that he always wants the ball. Some bullshit involving statistics and logic. whatever….
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
I think it's more that the first team gets to set the tone for the game.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
of course.
it was going to be a battle to see how many points the defense could give up and still win the game. i remember last season all we asked for was one or two stops in the entire game. if they did that we had a chance at winning. thats just sad
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
This is also why they're playing so well this year.
A lot of them felt they let the team down last year.
well that plus they have a coach this year who knows what the the hell he's doing ;-)
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~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 7:17 AM CST up reply actions
He is quoted as saying that most of the time the offense gets the ball more series with opening the game receiving
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Anybody have any real info on that?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I couldn't find anything
You will just have to take my word that I heard him say it on local radio as gospel :)
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Except when DeMeco speaks up :P
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
I think you’ve swayed me your way. Where did you play?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Nothing above high school
But if coach would have played me more, we coulda won State—Uncle Rico
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
by JMFC on Jan 11, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
SO MANY REPLY FAILS.
Are we going to have to start calling reply fails “/LadyTexans’d?”
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Do I get a penalty for that? i almost did it again when I was replying to this comment, lol. And I haven’t even been drinking. sigh
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I don't think so, looked like a clean post...
Oh, so you were roughing the passer. Nevermind.
/JeromeBoger’d
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
So glad I decided to join this forum and Baltimore Beat Down. It’s great to chat with other people that are pumped up too. It’s hard for me to focus on anything else right now. I get annoyed when I have to interrupt my perusing of articles and blogs to actually do work…at work, lol.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
AHHH. I love this man so much.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FYADxh1t_E&feature=related
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Interestingly enough,
that line on the bottom ticker contains the most important moment in Texans history.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Beat me to it!
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
I watched that the other day… and the one on Rice. Andre is just such a great person. I didn’t know Rice’s story before, but it’s a heart wrencher.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
My neighbor is a country white dude
But if you close your eyes when talking to him, it is Andre Johnson’s voice. Weird. And completely irrelevant….
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Lol, I love the way Andre talks. And he’s so humble. He’s the best, yet you can hardly get him to take a compliment. But that’s our whole team. They all defer to one another.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Foster has one too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtX-wWip_wI&feature=related
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
IMO, Arian's story is a lot more inspiring than Andre's
but Andre’s tale is more touching.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
It's good.
I know tons of UT (Tennessee) people who can’t believe how consistent he is for us. They’re really bitter about him.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
They should be
He left Tennessee with a fumbling issue and shitty errrrr…..unconventional outlook.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
True. Glad he eneded up with us and had something to prove though.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Andre’s story just shows you what kind of guy he is. You should really check out the one for Rice. It’s sad.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
It is sad. Respect to Ray Lewis for becoming his mentor.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Agreed. Although, I find it ironic that a possible murderer (or accomplice) became the mentor for a guy whose father was murdered. But still, it doesn’t negate Lewis’ talent or being there for Rice.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Ray Lewis talks a great game
He is just so full of his own rhetoric at this point, it’s just silly. He reminds me of Christian Bale in Batman. Stop talking like you are Batman when you are being Bruce Wayne!
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Lol. He’s too old to be Batman or Bruce Wayne.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
In the words of Metallica, it’s “sad, but true.”
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
naw ray lewis is black.
/das raycess
/wasn’t even good enough to be part of the football team in the 3rd movie
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:34 PM CST up reply actions
Wait
Batman isn’t black?
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 11, 2012 11:44 PM CST up reply actions
nope green lantern is.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 1:30 AM CST up reply actions
Batman wants to be. Check out his suit. :)
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
yeah just saw what you meant. i guess he is trying to be black
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 1:42 AM CST up reply actions
I wonder if sports agents pay E:60 to do those peices?
If I ws an agent I would want as many of my clients as possible on those heart-tug mini-biographies.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
I swear I can spell, I just can't type
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
I bet the players get paid, but I agree. Fans eat this stuff up.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
No such thing as bad publicity.
Make them seem like they are regular people, just like you and me with regular people problems, and sit back as regular people who relate to their story go and buy their jersey.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
And that’s what helps to pay for our team. Worth it. I wonder if players get a cut of each jersey that gets sold.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I don't think so.
Its all NFL merchandise and sold as such. I’ve never been a jersey guy. I teach my kid the honor of our family name, so I have issue wearing another man’s name on my back. I’m a fan of the team moreso than any of the individual players.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Unless its Bernard Pollard
That guy is awesome :)
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
That statement put a pain in my heart.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Him not getting re-signed put a pain in mine....
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
Foster not getting a new contract would give me heart failure.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I highly doubt it. Foster is going to get paid big time because earlier in the season, Bob Mcnair told him to prove it again this year and he would take care of the rest.
My guess is we’ll probably see a $9-$11 M/year contract for him. I would say 3-4 year deal
Excellent. I feel much better. All I’ve read is that his contract hadn’t been renewed yet.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
It hasn't been really discussed and Rick Smith has told media he does not talk about contracts during the season.
He is a restricted FA so we can basically match anything that anyone else offers.
I liked Pollard a lot, too.
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
Daniels
Any thoughts on whether Daniels will really be 100%?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
As long as he is out there,
they have to cover him. And thats good enough for me. If Kubes would use Casey like he should be and hasn’t all year, we can compensate for it.
Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...
He most likely won't be 100% but he's still effective even at possibly 80%. Good write up btw.
The only thing I worry about is if he’s going to be less effective at blocking because he’s worried about his hand. He’s really underrated as a blocker in my opinion.
Thank you Tony. I think he’ll play hard. I just don’t want to lose him in the middle of the game and have to change things up with a replacement if we’ve got something good going.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I expect no less from OD.
I hope he doesn’t worsen his injury but if it does come to that, Dressen and Casey have to step their games up. Then again, I think the Ravens will be so cautious of Andre that it’ll open up our TE’s.
I have a football with Dressen’s signature on it…wouldn’t mind seeing him do something special.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
This season all he does is catch TDs!
I saw a stat that 33% of his receptions were for TDs at one point this season.
His final stats: 28 receptions, 353 yards, 6 TDs. That’s a 21% TD ratio.
What a rock star! Our legion of TEs is amazing
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Impressive stats. We have guys all over the place who make great plays. We have our superstars, but it seems like everyone gets their moments to shine.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Just to put my 1/5th dime in
I believe the Texans have nothing to lose. We’ve been beat to hell with injuries and through all that we still managed to win a decisive playoff game. A win here and Houston marches into next week, continuing a miraculous season that defies even Durga himself. Even if we lose we leave this season satisfied with a playoff win and enter into next season with a youthful and healthy team that will become an AFC powerhouse and Super Bowl contender for years to come.
As for the aging Ravens, PK put it best
If the Ravens win it, well, they were supposed to. If they lose it, it’ll be a catastrophe.
Official hype-man of the Flour Bluff Academic Decathlon team
i would like them to keep winning because it feels right.
i believe in this team. gotta keep battling. we can win this game. kubiakism aside i think that the more we win the more mario would like to be a part of this. the more wee continue to play the more he sees how much the city gravitates towards the team. not just that but to know that he is healthy but was ir’d has to get to him. combine that with how we dominated the division and how much depth we have and this looks like a really good place to be in.
plus i think he sees how much the city and teammates appreciated andre for being here during the worst time and never ever wanting to be anywhere else. if he sees how andre dealt with it then im hoping he feels like he belongs here. people would lose their collective minds if mario just went berserk next season and led the team to the lombardi. but that’s just me.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 11, 2012 11:27 PM CST up reply actions
I'm not too fond of the term "battlin'"
I much prefer the Texans to be known as the “zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off”
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by thebluffrat on Jan 11, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
You must watch walking dead. And if you don’t, you should.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Yup I do
I’m glad it’s picking up back in February, something to look forward too on Sundays when football ends
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by thebluffrat on Jan 11, 2012 11:43 PM CST up reply actions
Excellent point-great show. I know it heightens the anticipation to have football season for only part of the year, but I miss it when it’s gone. :(
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
im gonna steal that.
much better phrase to keep me believing in this team on game days.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 1:32 AM CST up reply actions
I'll be mad if we lose but,
There will be no pitchforks or guillotines this time. Everyone really stepped up this year and I for one appreciate it. I think we have great chemistry on the team, and I think we are set for next year.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
If healthy, imagine where our expectations would be right now.
This has been an awesome year. Mad props to the entire organization from the practice squad to the front office.
I want Williams back, even though him being gone has allowed some nice step ups. If we were completely healthy, these discussions about Sunday would be completely different.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
where and when would Brooks Reed play?
would they rotate him in when/if Mario gets winded?
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~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
Completely agree that we could lose on Sunday and call the season a huge win. I think our guys are hungry though. They don’t want to be done with the season, they don’t want this winning feeling to be over…especially because it’s new. I’m sure they’re feeling the energy. It’s all over Htown. When I went out after the game, people were leaning over tables to give high fives to perfect strangers because they were in Texans gear. The replays were on all over the place. We’ve got something special going and these players have so many years ahead of them. Can you imagine if we made something happen with 3rd string QB and no Mario? How formidable would we be next year?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
It's kinda funny how opposite of the Astros the Texans are this season
After the excellent management by Rick Smith, the Texans enter 2012 knowing the sky’s the limit, and that years of dominance will follow.
On the other hand the Astros (or as I like to call them now, the AAstros) enter the abyss of 2012 knowing that after years of awful mismanagement, it will take several seasons before the team is back into playoff form.
The Astros had their best season when the Texans had their worst in ‘05. It seems that the tables have turned this season. It’s a shame that Houston can’t have both teams be good at the same time.
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by thebluffrat on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if the Astros are really going to the American league.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
They are
And I’m not happy. I hate the goddamn DH. And fucking Bud Selig is as evil as Bud Adams, except he wields much more influence and power than Bud Adams could even possibly imagine
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by thebluffrat on Jan 12, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions
On one hand, I feel like a change could only be good for the Astros. On the other hand I hate the American League. Plus, it’s going to put us against some dominant teams. I love that you used the word evil.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
It is just Baseball's machine
manipulating what the Astros can do
I don’t care for it, but complaining won’t do any good
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:06 AM CST up reply actions
I, on the other hand, am thrilled.
I’ll get to watch a team I care about again!
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by UprootedTexan on Jan 12, 2012 12:12 AM CST up reply actions
lol
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:15 AM CST up reply actions
Pretty much this
Because once football season ends, it’s going to be pretty boring here in Houston until the next football season. Rockets need to tank, I’m tired of seeing a mediocre team who’s not good enough to make the playoffs and not bad enough to get a top 5 pick.
They look like they will outright suck this year
To get that top 5 pick.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
wont the al actually improve the astros in the long run?
its a big city, the new owner has money, and the team gets a shit ton of support when they do well. hell even when they suck they have higher attendance avg than the marlins. granted its the marlins but still. and the long run i mean 10 years and on.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 1:35 AM CST up reply actions
I really don't have a problem with what Ravens fans are thinking
They’re fans, and they have the right to be confident. Especially considering it’s their first home playoff game in 5 years and they’re going against a rookie qb. As fans, they have a right to be confident and we have a right to be confident too.
by TheDream34 on Jan 11, 2012 11:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I don’t think anyone here disagrees with that. I think we’re just saying why we think we have as much of a shot as they do.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Dismissing the other team is always a bad idea
We are just pointing that out.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 4:49 PM CST up reply actions
Lol off topic but not really...
I find it funny that I’m on both sides of the “arrogant” fans and underdog fans. I’m here defending the upset, then over at APC, talking about beating the Giants. And though I haven’t kept up with everything going on, I have seen some Giants fans talking about how Packers fans are arrogant, much like the talk is of the Ravens fans here lol.
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With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
by RaY210 on Jan 11, 2012 11:53 PM CST via mobile reply actions
You’re a Packers fan Ray?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Yeah.
Been a fan since the 90s. I live in San Antonio. And for a reason that’s beyond me, as much as I love this place, there’s that damn Cowboys obsession here. So when the Texans came to be, had to root for them for sole purpose of going against my family and most of my friends lol. But over time, they’ve warmed their way into my heart! Lol. But sorry to say, I’m a cheesehead lol
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by RaY210 on Jan 12, 2012 12:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
I have always kinda sorta liked the packers since I was a kid (before I came to hate the cowturds) I liked Boyd Dowler and wore his number in Jr High and HS (though that is way before your time)
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:08 AM CST up reply actions
Lol
Yeah. I’m not as educated on the history of the team as I can be, but in my defense, theres a whole lot of history there lol
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With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
by RaY210 on Jan 12, 2012 12:16 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I understand
http://packershalloffame.com/boyd-dowler/
He was a WR and punter (back when real players had to punt and kick)
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
No worries. You chose the Texans over the Cowboys. That makes you okay in my book. :)
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Lol thanks
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With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
by RaY210 on Jan 12, 2012 12:17 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Packers defense over the last couple of weeks has not looked good.
Then again, I’ve seen an interesting trend lately that the NFC teams have the best offenses while the AFC teams have the best defenses.
I think we’re well rounded (I’ll leave our QB out of the evaluation). I wonder how the whole deal with the Packers coach’s son is going to change things for them. That whole thing is just awful.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Yeah...such a horrible tragedy
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With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
by RaY210 on Jan 12, 2012 12:09 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
It is and don’t even get it. I read an article that said foul play wasn’t suspected and that a security guard heard someone calling for help from the water at around 3am. But, if that’s the case, why didn’t someone help him?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Oh really?
I heard how they didn’t suspect foul play, but I didn’t the security guard part. That’s crazy
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by RaY210 on Jan 12, 2012 12:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Right? It just doesn’t make any sense. I mean…if someone is in the water shouting for help…you do something. Grab a rope, jump in, call 911, throw something that floats. Anything. I guess more details will be released, but that was in an article from yesterday.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Maybe cause he had a bad rep as an ass?
A Brown County judge sentenced Michael Philbin to six months in jail in 2009 after he was convicted of sexually assaulting two young girls and two counts of battery.
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
I heard it happened at his house and that the girls were drunk. It makes you wonder if it really happened or if they went after him because of his celebrity status. I haven’t looked into it, just wondered about it when I heard the first little tidbit about it.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Definitely agree that we are balanced.
As for our QB situation, I think people really underestimate Yates. He’s still a rookie but he’s so calm and poised that in crunch time, he makes the necessary throws. I feel like the future for the Texans is extremely bright and that TJ is a sleeper.
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Concur. I don’t expect him to be perfect. Certainly experience would help us now, but our offense and defense have helped to carry him this far and he hasn’t hurt us. He’s even managed to pull off some really impressive plays and our team respects him. What more could we ask for from a guy who was thrown into these big shoes? I definitely prefer him over Leinart.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I'm all in for naming TJ at least the backup behind Shaub.
Leinart can go and we just draft a new third stringer. His $2 Mil+ contract can go somewhere else.
For sure. Leinart just never delivers. Look at his track record with the Cardinals. Plus, he just seems to have bad luck. He always ends up injured when he has a chance to do something.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
That pretty much sums up his career.
2 broken collar bones in the same place is NOT a good sign.
Collar bone fail.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
should replace that shit with some steal.
i think its the way he lands that makes him prone to failed collarbones. i would still like him here but for a much cheaper price. vet minimum. better options that delhomme and garcia.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 1:38 AM CST up reply actions
We need to teach him how to fall. it’s just like skiing, you have to do it right. I look at Delhomme and Garcia more as mentors for TJ than as actual back ups. And I wasn’t impressed by Delhomme when he stepped in for a bit.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
if falling will make him better then kareem can teach him.
kareem has learned to have all levels of suck and stay healthy.
/secretly hopes kareem can become an all star
/turn your stupid head dummy
/is this what tim felt with his hope for amobi?
/dick joke.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 1:44 AM CST up reply actions
Well, I suppose Kareem would be earning his pay if he was teaching Leinart to fall…and he’d be contributing to our team. I’d say that’s a win. Maybe the newfound success of the Texans will rub off on Kareem…
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Oh yeah...
Hadn’t really thought about that, but you’re right.
*Proud Packers shareholder*
With my last breath, I curse Zoidberg!
by RaY210 on Jan 12, 2012 12:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ravens fans have been nice to me. I just think we have every right to believe that, even though everyone says the odds are stacked against us, there are excellent reasons why we have a good shot at this.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I simply feel we are due for a win against them.
Simply the law of averages. The last 2 times we played them were both close games. This one will go to us.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
It could but i like to think streaks are bound to be broken
Texas. Gods favorite country.
by CoolBreeze3 on Jan 12, 2012 12:18 AM CST up reply actions
I'm really afraid the refs will do that
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I agree that we’re due. We were due for the playoffs and that happened, despite everything. Why not cross this off our list too? I’m ready for a Texans over Ravens win. And if we won this one, it’d overshadow all the losses.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
by LadyTexans on Jan 12, 2012 12:20 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly.
I like to remain cautiously optimistic. While i am aware we are underdogs going into Baltimore, I still feel like we can win this game and should win.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
by CoolBreeze3 on Jan 12, 2012 12:23 AM CST up reply actions
I've been feeling pretty confident about this game.
I just feel that we are going to pull the “upset” then when that does happen, I can’t wait to hear the talk about “the team of destiny”
Nah.
Then it will most likely be the same talk about us against the Pats.
Texas. Gods favorite country.
by CoolBreeze3 on Jan 12, 2012 12:25 AM CST up reply actions
I’d like to see the Broncs take out the Pats. Then we could dethrone the Tbone.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Would love to see Tebow come into our stadium with our ruckus crowd.
We owe him some payback for last year’s loss.
The only way Texans get national coverage
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
Can you imagine him pulling a Dalton and throwing his helmet to the ground in frustration and covering his ears? TBone could pray for silence, but I don’t think it would be answered.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
No it would not be answered because the crowd would get louder.
If the decibels was clocked in at 118 for the Bengals game, I believe that if Tebow comes here, that stadium will probably break the decibel mark where you start to have ear pains (I believe that’s 125 decibels)
I was in the back row by the metal walls. By the fourth quarter I had to alternately clutch my ears and cheer because I was in pain. The sound ricochets off the metal walls and amplifies it.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
2 words
hearing protection
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 12:43 AM CST up reply actions
I made it through the first half without it, and then stuck them in
I brought a box of 50 disposables to the game and offered them around my section and it was empty in 10 seconds.
We were louder than the Atlanta game and I didn’t think that was even possible.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Rightly neighborly of you
to bring extra hearing protection
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 12, 2012 1:03 AM CST up reply actions
twss
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 1:39 AM CST up reply actions
That was nice of you and it was crazy loud. It seemed like we couldn’t get any louder and then you’d see our guys on the field waving us on and somehow we’d manage to make even more noise. What a great feeling—-to be sitting outside the field and still be connected to your players…to feel like your helping.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Guy I work with took his year old son.
WHen he told me that I suggested he go ahead and start saving for a hearing aid….kid is going to be hearing impaired.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 12, 2012 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Ouch, you still have my respect for seeing it through though.
I don’t think my ears had any pains but there were several points where I was trying to communicate with my friends and all I saw was his mouth saying something…
Barry-that’s brilliant. :) Where were you sitting Tony?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Section 601, Row P, seats 15
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Haha awesome, the opposite side of where I sit.
Well, nonetheless, let’s hope we get to host another game in this season. I’m pooped so I’m headed to bed. Gnight everyone and talk to everyone throughout this week until sunday’s matchup
The biggest reason we want Broncos to win though
is we’d get another home game (for the AFC title no less) after beating the Ravens.
No way. A Broncos win in New England means ONE thing and ONE thing ONLY.
God is setting the stage for Tim Tebow to CURBSTOMP Suggs and Flacco for their irreverant comments.
Denver losing is the best thing that could happen to our playoff prospects.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 12, 2012 2:46 PM CST up reply actions
LMAO! But c’mon…you’d rather play the Broncs over the Pats, right? I’d love to see our D (or any other D really) taking TT down. Prayers wouldn’t help him against Bulls on Parade.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I’d love to see our D (or any other D really) taking TT down
Famous last words. Have you not learned by now? DO NOT ANGER THE LORD.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 12, 2012 5:20 PM CST up reply actions
I have no wish to be smitten. I’ve apologized to the Heavens.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Tebus Forgives
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
I'd love it!
The signed Elway helmet in my game-room (acquired between his last two Superbowls) might just start glowing.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Of course. I think any realistic fan understands that the Ravens have many things going for them and that this is going to be a game that requires our best effort. After our performance Saturday though (even if it was only against the Bengals, as many Ravens fans have pointed out), I really feel like we can bring our best game. And it isn’t like the Ravens demolished the Bengals when they played them.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
some interesting quotes here
When Johnson wasn’t healthy enough to practice during his first injury, he caught passes from Yates on a side field to stay in shape. The receiver believes that time together has helped their chemistry now that Yates is starting.
"I didn’t know that I’d be playing with him this season," Johnson said of their early-season workouts. "But it worked out that way. Maybe it was a blessing in disguise."
Johnson knows better than most the quality of the defense they will face on Sunday. He’s followed free safety Ed Reed’s career since the two were teammates at Miami and he’s watched linebacker Ray Lewis, another former Hurricane, play for years. Johnson is close friends with Reed, but the notoriously quiet Johnson said he dislikes playing against him because he cracks jokes constantly.
Houston offensive coordinator Rick Dennison believes Johnson’s presence will help the offense find more success this time around against the Ravens.
"Andre helps us in so many ways," Dennison said. "It makes the defense have somebody else to concern themselves with (because of) his talent. We’re hoping he’ll go out there and make some plays like he did last weekend for us and keep us moving because we’ll need them all."
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Nice. Reminds me of something I heard about how Yates seemed to be constantly looking for Johnson to be open…maybe that’s why. Could help us with some nice passes…handy.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Close Game
Ask Randy Moss and the old Vikings.
When Randy Moss played, there rushing game increased by 50 yards per game. Expect Arian to hit at least a 100 on a good 19 carries. I expect AJ to have the biggest game in his career with 200 yards and 2 TDs with the first play of the offense being a play action bomb to AJ, this time not to thrown to Jacoby but to AJ for a first play TD. This game will be decided in the end of the 3rd quarter. Flacco or Yates will throw a crucial inside the 30 yard line INT/fumble which will cause the game to be loss. I expect this game to be decided by a TD or less. Gonna be a good game. Hope Wade is on the field this week instead of the press box
wade will coach the rest of the games from the box.
his health requires him to do so. he says it makes no difference to him. he knows what needs to be called and has faith that his players can execute.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 12, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions
See? He shouldn’t go to Tampa. The travel would be bad for his health. We can just make him nice and cozy in the box.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Actually, could we just lock him in there and refuse to let him out? We could give him food and water in exchange for plays. And when he does really well, we’ll reward him with luxury items.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
I think I heard somewhere that the folks from Tampa are traveling here to interview Wade.
"My idea of an agreeable person is a person who agrees with me." -- Benjamin Disraeli
"If you really want something in life you have to work for it. Now quiet, they're about to announce the lottery numbers." -- Homer Simpson
"There is no rehab for stupid." -- Chris Rock
Never try to baptize a cat.
They are…I meant he shouldn’t take the job and travel there…permanently. :)
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Fear not.
If we circulate enough pictures of Wade wearing those short shorts from training camp, nobody outside of Kirby Drive will want to hire him for anything.
Former Thane of Glamis and Cawdor.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 12, 2012 5:37 PM CST up reply actions
Didn't read ALL the posts, so this may have been addressed
Lee Evans wasn’t playing the first time we met. Even though he hasn’t done much yet he is a deep threat that to be doubled, which leaves the other burner Torry Smith in single coverage. Boldin is still one of the best over the middle possession receivers in the league. Ravens fans say Joe doesn’t have his chemistry down yet, I think this chemistry thing is just an excuse Ravens fans use when Joe misses wide open receivers. You can’t stack the box or the tight ends will beat you every time over the middle. We may have the most under used pair in the league. Then if you don’t stack the box Rice or Williams follows Leach for a nice gain. The whole Ravens victory hinges on whether Flacco has a game that he has the potential to or just craps the bed. I believe Cundiff is healed, so our kicking game should be fine. We probably have one of the best punters in the league for pinning teams deep in the own end. This playoff run is a determining factor for Flacco’s contract or walking papers, so he might have the biggest incentive to win more than anyone.
by TheShadow on Jan 12, 2012 3:26 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
what at all
has Lee Evans done this season to ever warrant double coverage again in his career? I’m sorry but Lee Evans has been terrible, Torrey Smith is your best WR.
Playoffs in Houston: 18 years in the making.
I still can’t decide who we should have JJ covering. I thought Smith because of Boldin’s knee injury, but maybe it’d be better to have JJ on Boldin and double coverage on Smith.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Smith is faster than anyone on your D. Whoever covers him will need safety help over the top.
daytime commentator. night time ninja.
nah. Watt will just pick 6 it. no safety coverage necessary.
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
Texans would be making a huge mistake
Wade Phillips understands defense. Given this fact, I expect Jonathan Joseph on Anquan Boldin. Why?
1. Previous success can be a precursor of future performance. Boldin owned JJ in the week 6 matchup to the tune of 8 receptions for 132 yards. Strangely, this fact has been left out of the dicussion on both the Baltimore Beatdown and Battle Red Blog.
2.Boldin has the most experience (playoffs and regular season), is the best route runner, has the best football IQ of all the Ravens WR’s (understands what the secondary is doing and site adjust accordingly) and the best hands. The one constant we (fans of both teams) can look forward to….. is Boldin having an impact on this game. Q is healthy and according to my sources is “running well” after having a knee issue.
Boldin owned JJ in the week 6 matchup to the tune of 8 receptions for 132 yards.
This and Houston’s 0-9 on 3rd downs in the second half (especially the Pollard pass break-up on Foster) were the difference in the game IMO.
J Jo was injured that game. Now Boldin is injured...
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
JJo was playing on a twisted ankle.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
Lee Evans opened up the passing lanes for us in thge first Steeler game and drew double coverage.
Even though he didn’t catch any passes he drew double to give the other receivers and tight ends lanes to run in. He is a burner just like Smith, maybe this game will be his breakout game.
The Steelers let the Tebowites throw for 300 yds. We are not the Steelers.
Swat and swim, dip and rip, twist and spin; just do whacha gotta do to light up that QB.
Next !!
/MTV’d
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
Agree with most of this
I wouldn’t expect much from Lee Evans. It would be nice, just being real. I expect Ravens WR’s NOT name Boldin to have the jitters early in the game including, the up to this point, disappointing Lee Evans. I agree, Flacco needs to be in “synch” and “see” the open guy and deliver a strike in rthym and on time. This game, in my mind too, helps me further my evaluation of Flacco as the franchises signal caller……
So who would you put on Smith/Boldin?
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Question on DB coverage
So who would you put on Smith/Boldin?
JJ is an outstanding cover corner. Put JJ on Boldin all over the formation no matter what! If Q goes to the bathroom, JJ should be his escort.
I’d stem and disguise coverages on Torrey Smith with some Cover2, pressman trail 2 technique with the FS over the top, off-man with weak roll coverage (FS rolling to the side of the formation to take Torrey Smith out of the route concepts) etc. Mix it up to take advantage of the lack of experience.
These coverages will cause just enough hesitation in indicisive QB’s to disrupt timing. Most of these concepts and techniques are extremely effective when the OC is very regimented with his schemes. For instance, look for a ton of X-Iso or isolation routes outside the numbers by Cam Cameron instead of incorporating combination routes such as the post-cross combo, the ditch combo where #2 runs a hitch route near the line of scrimmage but outside the numbers and # 1 runs the deep dig, a 15 yard square in pattern and the Dino, double hi-lo post route. Others are stacked releases or bunche sets from the same side of the formation. Just a few great route concepts design to help both the WR’s and QB win the game within the game battle.
by Ravens One on Jan 12, 2012 11:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Baltimore should be favored to win
All the stats are on their side. If I was looking at this dispassionately, I would pick Baltimore to win a close game. I have no problem with people saying the Ravens should win. They should win, given the circumstances. They are at home, they had a better record, they already beat us, we have a 3rd string rookie QB starting. All that said, I am a Texans fan, and I think the Texans find a way to win, logic be damned!
It could go either way
Depending on which Houston team shows up. But if the Texans have their head wrapped right and are focused, the Landfill Rats are goin’ down. I think this is Houston’s game to win or lose.
I won’t say that Baltimore shouldn’t be favored to win. But to say that all the stats are on their side? That’s an exaggeration. Our defense is ranked better, Foster’s stats are beter (check out willieboy’s post that details them even further than I did, Ravens don’t have great plyoff sats when it comes to advancing, and their quarterback’s QB rating leaves much to be desired. Does Baltimore have some great things going for them? Yes. Does having home field advantage prhaps tip the scales in their favor? It certainly helps. That bein said, who really cares about stats? They haven’t mattered to us all season. Although, statistically we win more when we aren’t favored (this year), so perhaps not being the favorite gives us a leg up, lol.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Not sure if this is true, but I’ve heard that if the Ravens get behind, the crowd can turn hostile towards them. If we could get a lead going, it might help us out in that regard.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Difference is that they have an open air stadium...
The crowd noise there isn’t in the same UNIVERSE as in a closed Dome style stadium.
So it will be loud yes, but not Reliant Falcons Game loud.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 12, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
They seem convinced they can stop the running game.
Big Preview of the stopping Foster and Tate by stifling the wide zone run, here.
In fact, the upsets in this round that do happen, don’t look like the Ravens vs. Texans. Instead they resemble games like the Saints vs. 49ers, where a quantifiably great team happens to end up under-seeded.
http://baltimoresportsreport.com/playoffs-preview-weathering-the-wide-zone-run-23655.html
HAHAHA! Has anybody read this article??? It’s a knee slapper, let me tell you. Let me help you out if you haven’t because it’s fairly simple to give you the whole thing in a nutshell. The article says that we only have 1, yes 1, play. And that, as long as the Ravens can stop that 1, yes 1, play that we have…the Ravens will have no problem with us. BC, this is even better, Kubiak only uses the 1, yes 1, play that he learned in the 90s from the broncos coach. HAHAHA! Ridiculous. please, oh please let the coach for theRavens only have made a plan for 1 play. That would be my dream come true.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
That's not entirely true.
The article says that a huge portion of our plays are “based” off of one play. And that’s correct. Inside zone plays and cutbacks work because the defense is working their ass of to cut off the outside zone play. Same thing with bootlegs.
Straight dropback passes aren’t based off of this play, but generally, that’s not where our big plays come from.
by Tailgate Andy on Jan 12, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
Restate: they said if they can block our one play, then we'll crumble
“The key to the zone-blocking running game is one play: the wide zone run. If the Ravens are capable of stopping this one running play the Houston Texans offense should crumble.”
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
What Andy Said still applies
That one play is the base set for a multitude of plays. If they are able to shut down the outside zone, they can then garner an advantage against the bootlegs or inside zone plays.
This takes us out of our strategy, rely on the running of the bulls, and then play action them with that same basic play set up.
If the writer could of completed his thought about how our offense can be a simple scheme, yet still very difficult to stop when the offense is in sync it would of been a better read
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
I just think it’s pretty audacious to say that by stopping one play, we’re beat.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Obviously some reporter figured it all out
and no one from playoff teams like the Steelers, Falcons or Bengals ever noticed.
The perfect response to "who dat?" is "Say Watt?"
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 1:13 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
LOL excellent, Professor ;-)
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 6:33 AM CST up reply actions
Stats
For the last time. The stats are NOT favoring the Ravens.
The Texans average more rush yards, pass yards, total yards, and points than the Ravens.
The Texans pass defense and total yards are less than the Ravens (better).
The only thing the Ravens has over us is the Rush defense which is like 2-4 yards better.
Our offensive stats aren't really applicable.
Most of our stats came when Schaub was our quarterback. When Yates was playing, there were really only two games (Atlanta and Cincy) that we were doing our best to win. The other games, we were either trying to avoid another QB injury, or we just didn’t care, because there was nothing we could do to improve or worsen our seeding for the playoffs.
by Tailgate Andy on Jan 12, 2012 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
That was the regular season.
None of that matters in the postseason.
Former Thane of Glamis and Cawdor.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 12, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
Well.....we may be on an island here.....
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/fp/flashPollResultsState?sportIndex=pollindex&pollId=130965
LOL.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
Probably so, but I don't have the link.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 12, 2012 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I need to find myself a bookie.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
This could be great
If we pull this one out, the whole freaking nation will be set back. LOL
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 12, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
And when we pull out the flask of Ratbird tears to enjoy with our wings on SuperBowl Sunday.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
by TexansForever on Jan 12, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Mmmm….raven wings. Do they taste like chicken? :)
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
Nah. Rattlesnake has a piquant flavor to it.
Raven wings are more heady but with just a touch of mellow smoothness.
Former Thane of Glamis and Cawdor.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 13, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
LOL I love it!
“A handful of people on a leaky boat are going to save the world?”
“Exactly!”
that’s what that map reminds me of ;-)
MORTAL KOMBAT! ;-)
Let the game begin!
Unleash the Krakken!
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 6:36 AM CST up reply actions
The Krakken has a foul stench. Should we have our guys roll around in something awful? I can just imagine the sports casters commenting on why the Ravens keep breaking their lines.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
and still 40%
in Texans picked the Ravens.
They almost got the clean sweep
True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?
LOL that number has dropped since when you looked at it
BUT here’s something funny to note.
that particular poll had 106,648 respondents
when you hover over the various states, you can see how many votes each state contributed to the vote so like Montana had 243 that voted
TEXAS had 10,180 respondents we were easily 10.4% of the entire poll.
states in the northeast were maxing out at like 4,900 respondents
California had 7,000 respondents.
Does anyone doubt that Football IS IN FACT a religion in the state of TEXAS? LOL 1 state = 10% of the nation that bothered to answer the poll. We should have a Superbowl in Texas at least once every 10 years ;-). Preferably once every 5 =D.
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 14, 2012 12:57 AM CST up reply actions
Then we secede.
" I done drew the line. Just like the Alamo. You're either on one side of the
line or the other. I don't want to ever leave Texas again." - Former Houston Oilers coach, Bum Phillips
by LadyTexans on Jan 12, 2012 5:08 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
LOL
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 6:37 AM CST up reply actions
I've heard of him.
Got “Cliffs of Dover” on my iPod. Pretty damn good musician.
Former Thane of Glamis and Cawdor.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 12, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions
You should get the album that song is on, Ah Via Musicom
Excellent album with half instrumentals and half vocals. This is one of the better cds that I own. We had after show passes and were sitting with him in the tour bus talking. What an incredibly nice and humble person.
Why does this feel like interacting with Blogging the Boys during the preseason?
5 rings is the only stat….
no no....BTB is far worse. BTSC is far worse.
I have actually been impressed with the number of BBD peeps that have come, discussed, even homered a bit for their team but have not been very rude at all. A few of us have gone there and pressed their points a bit strongly and a few of theirs have come here and done the same. If you ask me the annoyance level has been really low compared to what I would’ve expected it to be.
"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
Eat me, David Stern.
by Christopher H on Jan 12, 2012 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
speaking of breaking records
Wouldn’t it be nice if we broke our Indy curse feb?
by CJ3m on Jan 13, 2012 11:16 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
that WOULD be awesome and I can see it happening =D
#Texans2011 — Where reality and dreams collide!
~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 13, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
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