Post Game Open Thread: Ravens 20, Texans 13
by bigfatdrunk on Jan 15, 2012 3:26 PM CST
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I think MDC's email says it all:
Can someone who is hopefully more sober and less homicidal throw up a post-game thread? I'm f***ng spent and will likely devolve into something that will get us shut down.
I, personally, feel like this is a game we should've had. But it was also a game that was a microcosm of both our strengths and weaknesses. Still, your 2011 Houston Texans showed muchos huevos to get us to this game, and it's a squad of which I'm proud. GO TEXANS!
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Know too well what it's like to come up short, while missing vital pieces
Great season for the Texans and best of luck in 14 of 16 games next year.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
Jacoby
don’t ever show your face around Houston ever again.
by wiseonekms on Jan 15, 2012 3:23 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
There may finally be someone in Houston who is LESS popular than Beelzebud...
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
Jacoby could be the Bill Buckner of the Texans....
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
I think Juck Facoby
Will replace the Duck Funta mantra around here
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 15, 2012 9:08 PM CST up reply actions
Jacoby proved why he doesn't belong in this league.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
This
Who’s the best FA WR next year? And which will be the best available WR prospects in the draft? If we cut Jacoby, Williams, Vickers, and Kareem can we get a kickass WR and a good corner?
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yes but williams has to come back.
i guarantee this game would have been more lopsided if we had him blowing up the left tackle.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
What's his name from the colts will be available...in the FA
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
wayne?
too expensive
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Garçon and Gonzalez are also FAs
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
but I don't think you want to pay a lot to replace Jacoby with another inconsistent handed WR
Gonzo would come cheap and is really talented, but hasn’t stayed healthy.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
I don't even think about it anymore
when I’m too angry at him to bother with it, I call him Frenchy or Dropalupagus.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Franchise and let him go in my opinion
He’s a great player but I think we can make more gains in other areas with that money.
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you dont let cornerstone players go.
williams is a monster. he might be injured but the man played his ass off everytime he stepped on the field.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
Somebody really, really good is not going to be getting enough snaps
If we keep Williams. This defense is spectacular with or without him. If I have to choose between a very good wide receiver plus a draft pick, and just Williams, I choose the former. I can understand the opposite opinion but that’s where I’m at right now. Maybe my view will change when my anger at Jacoby cools a little.
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We can still sign williams
and then have THE BEST defensive line in all of football, in one hell of a rotation… no way we can afford him if we franchise him… it would be like franchising a QB… that average would be crazy high
you have to give wade the best weapons to win.
mario is that weapon. he designed everything with mario in mind. if you think that those other players put up good numbers mario would do so much better.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
move watt or smith to NT
Move Williams to DE, have best front 7 in league, profit
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Wow, that's an insane comment
that shows zero knowledge of how Wade’s system works even after watching it for 18 games.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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paying top 4-3 DE money for a 3-4 DE
even if Williams instantly beast it up is it better than having him at OLB.(5 sacks 5 games) production to money wise?
by BC5 on Jan 15, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't believe that
Mario can still produce at DE, but with Barwin and Reed getting pressure too.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
we play a "34"
but our lineman have 43 responsibilities
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
What do you expect
from a Falcons lover?
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
LOL rec'd
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
With all due respect...
It’s only insane if you don’t consider the fact that Wade had this exact personnel available and chose not to utilize it in the way you are assuming he will.
It’s also a bit asinine and pompous to assume your opinion is the correct one, simply because you’re the self appointed expert. BC5 should consider himself lawyer’d.
2DH is funny as shit though, so kudos.
becuase by far he is the weakest player in our front 7
and the 2nd worst player on our D after kareem/allen/whoever is starting at cb2
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
wasn't an issue today
Our D held the line.
weak WRs and Jacoby Jones errors cost us this game
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
so?
we can get better without having to use a draft pick. Just hold on to Williams. You really don’t think We can easily improve on cody? Watt can do what cody does in his sleep, and Mario can be an elite DE.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Nope
Many on Twitter (analysts and fans) kept noting how often Cody got his ass kicked.
He was definitely the worst on defense.
"Lord, beer me strength."
we need a WR2 more than a NT
although I’d love to get both
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
We may look at NT in the 2nd round
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Cody actually improved as the season went on
much to my surprise. Mitchell has shown flashes, but is not consistent. It’s an area that could be reasonably upgraded, at least to get some developmental guys for the future. I’d put it at third round tops though
He was certainly less of a liability than in the first few games.
But if we’re fighting for cap room, I’m thinking we can get the same level of production with someone who costs less and has greater upside
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Agreed
It seems like every year the draft has a few 310+ lb’ers who fall to the 4th or 5th round because they are only 2-down run stoppers…which is really all we need since Watt & Smith move inside on passing downs.
I don’t hate Cody but have no problem with going young and cheap there
Shaun Cody is horrible
Have no doubt.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
I'd wouldn't say he's horrible, I'd say he's mediocre
He would be better suited as a backup NT though
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
ricky ran all over his ass today
he is a black hole of suck
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
Runs up the middle weren't our problem.
I’ve heard this since last offseason, but not once did I see us lose a game to it.
First Ravens game.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
True. That was after nine straight 3 and outs by the O.
He was under 4 ypc until the middle of the 4th quarter.
Now that you point it out, I definitely can see it being a possible weakness in a bad-ass defense againt a 49ers style team.
I think D-line depth is needed anyway.
"I haven't seen anything to make me think Shaun Cody is horrible."
Do you watch something else when the defense is on the field?
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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by MDC on Jan 15, 2012 6:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Really what has he cost us?
He’s not great, but the “nose tackle panic” hasn’t exactly proven prophetic.
by willieboyd on Jan 15, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
He's still the weakest spot
in the front seven by a very large margin. He’s not good, and this was covered up by Cushing being a monster, especially through the middle part of the season. As good as the D was this year, you could still make it noticeably better by upgrading that position. I would still say that KJax is the worst player on the D, but Cody is second.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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by MDC on Jan 15, 2012 6:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can agree with that.
IMO any rookie is depth from the 27th spot, though.
I've been masturbating watching our defense this year
Is that wrong?
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 6:45 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
If it is
I don’t wanna be right.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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Damn, that's where I was going
I wanted someone to say “yes”
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 6:47 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Great minds.
And also us.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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all you dudes need help...lol
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
I agree, I'm tired of doing it alone.
Any idea where I could find some of this “help?”
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Nope
I DON’T NEED HELP!
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
They already play inside all the time
in Wades scheme their responsibilities would barely change. Its either dump reed, dump mario, or dump cody. Which would you rather do.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
which scenario?
that watt plays inside all of the time?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
money
we have to cut some dead weight off the DB and WR list to cover our cap for “real” players
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
That's speculation, isn't it?
What’s our cap situation?
$2M
and need to sign:
Brisiel, Mario
and better do something for Foster. He earned it by far!
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
playing time
they can’t all be on the field at one time.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Yeah, I hear that.
I would say Reed hits the bench.
A waste, but keeping guys fresh would benefit this D.
Rotate him in for 20-30 plays.
Dump the person who would take up 1/6th of our entire salary
I really hate to say it, but unless Mario takes a serious hit in his potential salary, I don’t think he should be re-signed.
by Calvinball on Jan 15, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Smith would be much better
as a NT in Wade’s system.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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So you want more penetration at nose and less run-stopping?
I know there’s a run-stuffer camp, but this is a new, and interesting, angle.
I think Smith would give you every bit
as much run stuffing as Cody does and then some. With Mario and Watt as the DEs and Smith at NT, I dare say the run stuffing would be amazing even compared to what it was this year.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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That would be a way to get all 7 on the field.
bfd wrote that Watt played NT in the 3-4 this year, so that may be an option.
Honestly
I’d be fine with any arrangement of Watt-Mario-Smith along the front three. Watt is probably the best fit, but any would work.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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Not to mention
I think Mario would be happy to sign a deal structured like DeMarcus Ware’s, which is pretty cap friendly in the first three years. If he does that, all you need to do is cut a few guys (Leinart, certainly) to have room for both Foster and Myers.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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He doesn't need to renegotiate.
His contract is up. He needs to negotiate a new deal.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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For depth, yeah.
But not particularly early. I mean, you’ve got Reed/Barwin as your starters. Braman seems like he could play there as a rotational guy. And the UDFA often has the kind of tweener that could play that role for Wade.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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Braman has entrenched himself on this team, at the very least, in the valued role of special teams player
anything more than that is cream, at this point. But, the kid has promise.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Already forget we have Brahman in the wings at OLB?
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
MDC is missing his own point
So to speak.
NTs in Wade’s system have 1-gap responsibility. In other words, get the fuck up the field and fuck people up, tackling anybody who might happen to have the ball in the meantime. I think both Smith and Watt could excel in this role. Their primary job is to disrupt, not tie up blockers. When you see Cody make a good play like his one (1, uno) today, it was because he shot the gap and created immediate havoc in the backfield. Now, imagine somebody doing that on a consistent basis.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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This is correct.
The run stuffing is part and parcel of the overall style of play.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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Watt already excels at his role at 3-4 DE
I wouldn’t want to move him. I think you are looking for another special talent, like a Watt, for that NT position. Cody, while adequate, is not a special talent. Finding that special talent, if it is out there and available, I’m sure Wade can identify it.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Dontari Poe or Josh Chapman would be nice
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 16, 2012 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
This^
and have Mario move back to DE.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
I just Want Mario, Brooks, and Connor
all playing
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
him or watt would make me happy
with williams on the outside. I just got tired of typing both names
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I also think him sitting out and watching Reed excel in his position might motivate him
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
no doubt.
no way we just let him walk. He’s supposed to be the cornerstone of our defense. Keeping him is utmost priority.
I think a lot of people underestimate the value in having a rotation keep our D fresh
The Titans have managed to make a lot of players look pretty damn good on their D-Line over the years by rotating and keeping them fresh.
Today we had 58 plays for the D. Instead of having Barwin and Williams in for all 58 of a game like that, we could have all three guys playing 39 a piece (or say 45 for Mario and Connor and 26 for Reed) at 100% ballsout every snap. We’d be even more relentless than we were this year, which would be scary.
With Mario being a beast, you could even extend that to the DE spots as well, and have a 5 man Mario, JJ, Ninja, Reed, Barwin rotation of relentless juggernaut. In this situation, you could even move Mario around to make him super hard to game plan against.
I may need to clean my pants soon.
In the offseason, I’d much rather Smithiak just keep making solid plays like they’ve been doing. If we can get upgrades at NT, CB or WR without breaking the bank? Sure. But the benefit of being as deep as we’ve shown this year is that we don’t have to draft a position. We can afford to pick for value and then make it work on the depth chart.
Shaun Cody might not be awesome, but he’s cheap and allows us to spend that money elsewhere while being good enough to get us by. You gotta have a weakness somewhere with the cap, and Wade has shown he get around it. Its not like the run up the middle is a tremendous part of most NFL offenses these days, so it seems like a good spot to save some money.
by chunky04 on Jan 16, 2012 1:02 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
very eloquently said Chunky.
I should preface this by saying, typically, I’d be all for “trading up” and “breaking the bank” for quality stars in free agency. But, after this season, I must say: NO NEED. We have depth everywhere, even where people think we are “weak.” I don’t see any reason to go look for top end corners. Kareem showed some improvement, so did Allen, and we have a 2nd round pick invested in Brandon Harris, not to mention Brice McCain is awesome in the slot.
As far as Cody, I’ve always been ok with him. And I’m ok with a rotation that will include Earl Mitchell and Tim Jamison as well.
We’re forgetting that Sharpton was also out for the entire season, and Nolan was out late as well. We filled those holes very nicely with Dobbins and Demps. I’m all for keeping Mario. Depth is KEY. And, it’d allow us to draft best players on the board regardless of position: a key if you want to build dynasty-like franchises.
Williams?
Why cut Vickers?
Why cut Kareem?
Cutting Kareem is an obvious decision
So we can find someone better
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Seriously? Where do we find a starter?
Move Quin back?
I'd rather take my chances with Allen starting full time if he comes back for a discount
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I think he's the better cover man, but again I defer to Wade.
Kareem does something to get on the field.
Besides getting picked in the first round, I really don't know what
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:15 PM CST up reply actions
This is a weak reason.
Wade and Gary play bad players to make their drafts look good?
Why does Brisiel play instead of Caldwell? McCain instead of Harris? Foster instead of Tate?
Again, I think we need to be fair.
Kareem improved from last season, and he didn’t look bad today. He’s a #2 corner in his 2nd season. Relax guys. We need to get as much depth on both dline/oline as possible, and we’re back where we need to be. Remember, our division is trash. We can be staples for years to come: DEPTH, DEPTH, DEPTH!!!!
Brisel plays because he earned his spot, & he went to Colorado State
McCain plays because he was better & faster than Harris (and they didn’t want to throw Harris into the fire like Kareem did). Foster plays because Tate blew out his ankle & Foster took full advantage of his opportunity
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
Draft position bias
that is bolstered by the whole “yeah, we passed on other, better guys and this was sort of a reach, but we really do believe that he can play” lie.
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I still think it's bullshit.
He’s our best all-around option at CB, it’s as simple as that.
Oh yeah.
Wade has not stock in Kareem. He’s a Frank Bush pick.
That's true.
But I think Gary and (especially) Rick Smith have stock in Kareem because of what was passed up in picking him.
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He wasn't as good as Jason Allen this year.
And it wasn’t particularly close. The only thing that hid the disparity is that each played about half the time.
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According to what?
Secondary play is almost impossible to grade without knowing the assignments.
I also think Kareem brings more than Jason Allen in the run game.
by willieboyd on Jan 15, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yet Allen is better in coverage
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Your last statement is definitely true.
I base my statement on Allen’s number of passes defended and total interceptions compared to Jackson’s, not to mention teams were not as blatant about throwing at Allen’s man as they were when Jackson was on the field.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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Teams obviously targeted KJ, and with good reason
No idea if anyone even tracks PI penalties per target, but I’d put money on KJ being top 5.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
That's one area he did improve in.
Remember when he used to just reach and grab?
Jackson rarely creates turnovers.
He just doesn’t have a knack for macking a play on the ball. In his last 4 years (2 in college 2 in pros) he has a total of 5 INT’s. He just doesn’t make plays. Jason Allen on the other hand, has 10 INT’s in the last 2 seasons. Jason Allen makes plays, Kareem does not…
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
KJ also, even when in position, fails to look for the ball for some reason
Reminds me a lot of Jacques Reeves
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 7:54 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Kareem is IMO the worst defensive starter.
I do think the perception of him around here is overly negative because of last year and his very visible failures and lack of big plays.
I really can’t get a handle on the CB2 position.
by willieboyd on Jan 15, 2012 8:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Allen's always gotten INTs, even in Miami.
I don’t know why coaches don’t like him (here and Miami) more.
In Miami, that reason was easy
He was a 1st round pick, yet he was stuck behind 3 better CBs. I don’t know what the reason is here
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:07 PM CST up reply actions
I was pretty dejected after the game,
But I feel better after hanging out here for a while.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:12 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Goddamn, why is my phone putting every comment as a random ass reply to something unrelated?
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
happened to me earlier.
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Well, that makes sense
It’s something with the app I think, where if you go to next unread comment, then to the bottom for a new comment, it’s still on the last one you read. Wish I knew how to stop it though
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
quit, or kill, the app.
that’s what I did.
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 15, 2012 9:16 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'm agreeing here.
I think Kareem did what he was supposed to do: IMPROVE. He’s no pro-bowler yet, but he’s young and I think today showed that he is responding heavily to Vance Joseph and Wade’s teaching. Have patience guys, he’s not utter garbage anymore.
Yep, I can't say he played bad.... and, they certainly picked on him today
There were some perfectly thrown balls that fell in.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Vickers misses more blocks than he makes
Several plays it was obvious today
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 15, 2012 6:19 PM CST up reply actions
I didn't see that (not saying it didn't happen).
Why isn’t Casey at FB? That’s my only question to these arm-chair GM discussions (Kareem, Cody, Vickers, Walter, etc.). Why are these guys playing if clear upgrades are available?
i think thor was hurt
otherwise he would have been blocking. Vickers definitely sucked earlier on. i also wonder why tate was not used to smash the ravens d down. he was instead used to pass block.
cody plays because mitchell is too inconsistent. Up until today the defense didn’t suffer from it too much because they adjusted. but the ravens got some really good 3 4 5 yard gains up the middle that could have been prevented with a better player.
walter is good at what he does but he is not a burner. he is great at run blocking.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 6:35 PM CST up reply actions
otherwise he would have been blocking. Vickers definitely sucked earlier on. i also wonder why tate was not used to smash the ravens d down. he was instead used to pass block.
Casey, by everyone’s admission, has been healthy for weeks. Kubes says Vickers is the better blocker. In those words.
the ravens got some really good 3 4 5 yard gains up the middle that could have been prevented with a better player.
This didn’t hurt us.
walter is good at what he does but he is not a burner. he is great at run blocking.
Agreed. He plays a niche position to me, a WR/TE hybrid.
Kareem played pretty damn well
A lot of great coverage. Flacco’s numbers are garbage, and half of his completion were spectacular catches in great coverage.
because you can't upgrade at every position with a salary cap in place.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Of course
That’s why I listed the players we should cut to free up room.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
Not at all
I can’t remember the last time I picked up a Madden game, to be honest.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
we have one of the best corners in the league
and a very tight salary. we cannot do better than Kareem when every team in the league is looking for a decent cornerback.
This is the truth.
Our only hope would be draft and we’ve seen how young CBs are crapshoots.
exactly.
let’s not forget the strides Brice McCain and Jason Allen have made. Not to mention we spent a 2ndr ound pick on Brandon Harris. Corner is not a priority. Kareem played very well today. I’m proud of that guy’s effort. He truly improved as a 2nd year player.
I also think we need to remember
that we played Flacco today, not an elite QB. Who knows what he would play like vs a better QB.
this
is a fair anti-Kareem point. And, hopefully another offseason with Wade and Vance will prove to alleviate our concerns about him.
Fair point
However he DID cover an elite WR.
by Calvin Paquette on Jan 16, 2012 8:57 AM CST up reply actions
Jackson did not play well
sometimes I wonder what game you guys are watching. I will be awaiting the PFF numbers because I’m sure I saw at least 7 passes completed on Jackson.
The Houston Texans: The Ron Paul of the NFL.
He wasn't horrible.
Boldin is an excellent receiver and that Lee Evans catch was unstoppable.
Like someone else said how do you upgrade CB?
Brandon Harris?
"No matter where you go....There you are" - Buckaroo Banzai
by buckaroo_banzai on Jan 15, 2012 3:51 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I know we were all high on Harris before the season stared. But the fact that Harris didn’t play at all this year makes me think he’s probably a bust.
no wade saw what happened with kareem and did not want to ruin him
rookie corners never do well in their first two years.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
Wade didn't want him Kareem'ed
And I’m sure the same was said about McCain…..and he was a fantastic nickel corner this year.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Yeah I'm not saying that Harris doesn't deserve a shot.
But if I had to pick between him and Kareem right now, I’d pick Kareem. He played on one of the best defenses in the league this year. If he was as bad as everyone says he is, this D would have floundered.
sure
but those catches were damn near miracles and had to be perfectly thrown balls. His coverage skills have drastically improved. How long are we going to continually hate on this guy? He’s a #2 corner in his 2nd season. He made the strides we expected, and wasn’t at all the reason we lost. I was impressed by him.
JAcoby plays well sometimes too
This is the problem that we have been talking about. Both Kareem and Jacoby are inconsistent We don’t knojw what we are getting in a game until its too late. These kinds of players cost games. They need to go.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 3:53 PM CST up reply actions
Kareem's young at a notoriously hard position for young guys to play.
Jacoby may have played his last down as a Texan.
and we have no fly zone that we picked up last year
mccain seems to do pretty good these days as a #3 or #4. Kareem gets one more shot next year with Harris threatening to take his job I’m guessing.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
kareem played awful!
What the hell were u guys watching? He was constantly out of position, couldn’t turn his fucking head and didn’t put his hands up until after the ball was there! He and jacoby need to bounce!
by skeezy12 on Jan 15, 2012 4:24 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
He's not great, but cutting him is asinine.
by willieboyd on Jan 15, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
he was not "out of position."
he was in position which made the catches that Boldin and Evans had as “spectacular” as they looked. Be fair for once to Kareem. Not everyone is a Revis or JJoseph.
I agree with this
He has been really tight on his coverage the last half of the season. Especially improved on man to man.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
^THIS^
I saw him make several plays Sunday and as allot of people keep saying, some of the completions were insane catches. And for those saying Allen is “better”, in my opinion he got abused pretty good today as well.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Marquis Colston would be perfect for our offense.
He’s the one FA I hope we go for. If we could resign Mario and Meyers, draft a WR in round 1 or 2, and add some Dline depth, I think we could be one of the overall deepest teams in the league. I think that team would be a legitimate Superbowl team.
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
He'll be too expensive, plus the Saints would pay to keep him
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
Saints have to resign a lot of players, including Brees
Brees is going to get 20 mil +. CArl Nicks is also an all-pro and UFA. They can’t have all three and will probably let Colston walk. 5 mil a year may be in Houston’s range…
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
This.
I do NOT look forward to watching the Saints and Texans offseason resignings.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
when it comes to depth
I think many are also forgetting that we lost Rashard Butler at the beginning of the season, Darryl Sharpton early on, and we will be returning both of them next season. (plus, Casey will be healthy enough to be full-time fullback.) The future is bright guys.
Colston is a fucking beast.
Quietest top wide receiver this side of Andre Johnson. But that’s not a guy you want replacing Jacoby’s role.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
To avoid the nasty hits Brees makes him take?
Seriously, have you seen some of the hits dude has taken?
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Meachem sucks.
Moore is constantly injured. Henderson is old. Colston is a FA and the only good “receiver”. Sproles is fucking awesome, and Graham is the best receiving tight end in the league.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Gronk just choked on his tight end TD record
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
You can do that when you're the only receiver not named Wes Welker and your QB is Tom Brady.
Still fucking awesome though. He’s clearly the best TE since he can block as well as receive.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
I'll take Graham and Gronk.... sounds like a mixed drink
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
because New Orleans is having cap problems
Colston is the most likely not to be resigned.They have to resign Brees and Nicks, They’ll get about 30 mill combined. They have enough threats that they will probably just let him walk.
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
Porter goes bye bye, as does Sedrick ellis, and hopefully Roman Harper.
CAP SOLVED.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
As far as the draft is concerned, Dwight Jones or Nick Toon would be the best fits for the Texans offense
Probably may look at a KR/PR later, or may just keep Demps around & give him that responsibility
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
WalterFootball has us taking Alshon Jeffrey in the first
I’d like us to take Joe Adams in the later rounds. We’ve got a KR in Manning, we need a PR.
by Calvin Paquette on Jan 15, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
We need someone dedicated to KRs.
Using a starter on D isn’t smart.
Quinten Demps?????
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
He was also good on KRs & PRs in Philly his rookie year
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
as long as they don't come from the Jacoby Jones school of running backwards/sideways
Seriously, even when he catches the ball he scares the crap out of me
Jeffrey won't fall that far
Chicago would take him if he does
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:44 PM CST up reply actions
I saw that, but I don't like Jeffrey
He reminds me a little too much of Mike Williams. He looks like he could easily blow up to 260. He also didn’t have evry many big games this year. He had a lot of 2 and 3 catch games this year
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
Nick Toon = Kevin Walter 2.0
I’d like someone a little more dynamic. Jones has some character flags.
Surprising that no one is talking about Kendall Wright. Good hands, breakaway speed, and can handle PR duties.
Kubiak believes in you
What character flags on Jones?
You mean that flyer for a birthday party that ended up not happening at all?
As far as Wright is concerned, no way I spend a 1st round pick on a guy because of his return skills (Ted Ginn Jr. anyone?)
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM CST up reply actions
That's actually not a bad call.
Eddie Royal is a pretty good returner, and really has fallen off the map. With Cutler and even Orton there he was a good WR.
by Calvin Paquette on Jan 16, 2012 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
i think id be more upset
if the Ravens win the SB
by nigeriantexan on Jan 15, 2012 3:23 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Not me
Puts us in a terrific light… they haven’t won in a while, plus they’re not the Patriots or the Packers…
Yeah, I understand, but I have to root against Art Modell on principle.
He’s like a bigger, badder version of Bud Adams.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
No. Modell would have been happy to take their name and colors.
The fans and city blocked that somehow.
They sued for it, IIRC.
If only we could have thought of that when the Oilers were leaving…
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
No. That'd be Clay Bennett.
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by UprootedTexan on Jan 16, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
Patriots are the only ones left I don't hate.
Go Pats!
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
I don't hate the 49ers.
I’m hoping Pats-49ers in the Super Bowl. That way I can be completely apathetic.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
I now hate everything 49ers.
Fuck them. Fuck Alex Smith. Fuck Vernon Davis. And a special fuck you to Malcolm Jenkins for still not learning how to turn your head after 3 fucking years as a corner/safety in the NFL. I hope you leave town with gg.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
I find myself wanting the niner's to win
as much as I hate to say it. can’t stand the thought of the giants in the super bowl.
and I’m a saints fan.
can we just have meteors strike both championship games?
Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.
"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.
by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 15, 2012 9:20 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Go Pats!!
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
You sound like my wife after the game ended.
Former Thane of Glamis and Cawdor.
Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 16, 2012 8:14 PM CST up reply actions
This
I dislike the Giants. I now hate the Ravens.
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
I at least resect the Ravens
At least they admitted that this was not an easy game & gave us the credit we deserved
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
True
Should clarify… “hate” in the same way I hate the Steelers – it’s a team that hurts to lose to, more than a normal loss. Certainly not the same level as, say, the BE-SFs.
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
by 5stringJeff on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
no
HATE THE STEELERS
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 10:03 PM CST up reply actions
No, not even on the same level
I don’t respect the Steelers one bit
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions
The whole "Art Modell" thing makes me view the Ravens as BE-SF North.
I’d root for them if they had a different owner. It’s the same way I view the Thunder in the NBA.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
FUCK OKLAHOMA!
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Despite my better judgment, a manager at Battle Red Blog.
Supreme Galactic Editor of Battle Red Onion.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now where are those pants at?!
by UprootedTexan on Jan 16, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions
Obviously you never watched "Top 5 Reasons You Can't Blame Art Modell For Moving The Browns To Baltimore"
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 10:43 PM CST up reply actions
Yes, the Ravens properly praised their opponent
The fans, that’s another subject.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
i think this game will be great ammo for the future.
we have a young squad and we can only get better from here on out.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:23 PM CST reply actions
btw what time does the plane land?
i wanna shank jacoby before he puts his foot on houston soil
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:24 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Shank is a bit much
I would like to cut him, but a ‘from the roster’ cut, not a ‘with a blade’ cut.
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
You're assuming
that the team let him get on the plane.
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
by Foster Child on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
ravens defense deserves it's props.
they shut us down in the 2nd half.
but i still feel like we left a bunch of points on the field. hopefully that will fuel them into the offseason.
Michael: The feeling that you're feeling is what many of us call...a feeling.
Gob: It's not like envy, or even hungry...
Houston offense moved the ball much better than Ravens did in 2nd half
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
Houston offense moved the ball much better than the Ravens the entire game
Three Ravens fumbles recovered by the Ravens plus Jacoby being a nimrod will result in the score we saw today
Our offense, with a rookie QB, did pretty darn good given the situation
Foster was a beast, and deserves to stay in Houston till he retires, in my opinion. Sign him, maybe we’ll have to let Tate go, but Foster is our man, and key to our success…
They didn't shut the Texans down
The Texans shut the Ravens down, and the Texans beat themselves with errors.
How about I Punch-a-size your face for free! - Rod Farva
by distant_texans_fan on Jan 16, 2012 1:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
This^
IIRC, the loss today can be laid completely at the feet of our rookie QB. Not that that is a bad thing, just sayin’. He made at least 3 throws he had no business even letting out of his hand and maybe 4….and every single one of those three led to Ravens points. And 2 of them were in the endzone.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
In other words....
those were essentially a 28 point turn around. Or did one of those only result in a FG?
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
No home teams have lost yet
when everybody is around and we're swinging for long bombs away, how do we come around to know - man, this really is what it's for?
which just proves
homefield advantage is not over rated
by nigeriantexan on Jan 15, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions
he's RFA right?
they could just slap a high tender on him and put it on the backburner.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
Arian DESERVES it though.
You do not give up HOF caliber, do everything players.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jan 15, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
sure could do that....
But then that best in nfl, team first, dominant player will walk next year or hold out…
by _empty on Jan 15, 2012 7:59 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
He said:
“There’s no excuse, he shouldn’t even be around the ball once that happens, so…” you could see he was swallowing bile.
yes. but it won't be here
WR just went up in priority for the draft
wiki says he's from New Orleans, guess its back there
probably owns a house in houston already thou…
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
I thought this at game time
But I realized the defense is already getting winded enough and that’s why Manning didn’t come out for returns more… who else did we have active who has experience returning punts?
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
yup. jacoby was absolute shit.
hell even shaun cody would have been an improvement at returning punts.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
I think he was giving JJ a chance to redeem himself
He had the potential to return one for a TD. Which would have made up for the bone-headed-ness somewhat.
But now, he is gone. Draft a WR with KR/PR potential, or bring in Trindon Holliday.
And here is a good shot. Caption contest?
How about I Punch-a-size your face for free! - Rod Farva
by distant_texans_fan on Jan 16, 2012 1:43 AM CST up reply actions
I sure hate him a lot less now
but still not blindly chugging the kool aid.
He learned a lot this year about using the offense as a defense. That is the only area I wish he would get better and better at.
We needed a lead going into the 4th.
We had to go away from Foster.
No shame;
All pride. We showed everyone that this team, our franchise, is no longer the joke of the NFL. No one plays better defense than us, no one has a better running back than us. Here’s to a good offseason (ink Foster and Myers for real), and hopefully we can get the small pieces to improve and make it all the way to the big game next year!
God is not on our side because he hates idiots also.
by Meta Sandoval on Jan 15, 2012 3:26 PM CST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
Almost forgot;
No one has a better offensive line than us. Looking at today’s game… holy shit. 130+ rushing yards and no sacks allowed? That line is THE best, bar none, in The League.
God is not on our side because he hates idiots also.
by Meta Sandoval on Jan 15, 2012 3:28 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 10 recs
with schaub we win this game
without tj yates tunnel vision we win this game.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
heck, we might have won this game with Leinart...
Props to Yates for playing as well as he did this season, but it eventually caught up to him…
No way in hell that would happen
Leinart would check down all damn game & Andre probably wouldn’t have gotten one catch
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The way Foster was running his checkdowns, I think we could've won this game
Not that that’s any credit to Leinart. Foster is just a baller.
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by MDC on Jan 15, 2012 6:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
are you asking me or someone else?
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 6:43 PM CST up reply actions
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“How high ARE you?”
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My guess on Matt Leinart's line if he played today
17-32, 85 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 32 checkdowns.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 15, 2012 9:18 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
and NONE of them are in the pro bowl
what a fucking joke
by Calvinball on Jan 15, 2012 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
totally rec'd
this is going completely unnoticed. Not to mention we might have the option of starting Butler at RT next season and kicking Winston inside. Possibly making us stronger and better. #ResignMyers
Winston gets annhilated by speed.
I think kicking Winston inside might be ideal for him if we can find a more athletic right tackle. I think Butler might be that guy.
Plus
Winston still looks good. Yes, he’ll have the occasional bad game, but he, and the entire o-line, looked really damn good today.
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ya,
Ideally I think Winston is a guard (and a damn good one), but the O-line looked nasty, nimble, and extremely effective today. I am giddy thinking about the possibility of returning all 5 starters healthy next season. Kudos to Kubiak on building this juggernaut of an oline.
No, he's definitely a tackle, pretty sure about that
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Butler is no Winston
Might be a good idea in a couple years, but, if IIRC, Butler is older than Winston.
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Same age, basically
A few months apart, I think. They both came out of Miami, both in the 2006 draft, both in the 3rd round.
Your point stands, though – Butler is not some young buck raring to go. If Winston turns in to “just a fat guy”, Butler probably isn’t far behind. OL depth is a concern at the moment.
by Andres_Johnson on Jan 16, 2012 2:19 AM CST up reply actions
Most of all we played until the end.
The Ravens thought they won after we went down by 14. They thought they won when they intercepted, but we made them earn it.
by willieboyd on Jan 15, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Jacoby needs to be cut
and if someone can explain how that last int wasn’t a safety, I’d be much obliged. Four feet down in front of the end zone, clear controls of the ball, goes into the end zone and rolls out of bounds. Safety.
Perera was tweeting about momentum rule
I’ll dig it up
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
Mike Pereira
Reed gets momentum. The ball should be put at the spot of the interception,.
Mike Pereira
Momentum rule. Go on NFL.com and click on the rule book. It is on page 65, rule 11, section 5, exception 2 (b).
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:29 PM CST up reply actions
Yep
If caught within five yards of the goalline, and the player is moving backwards in an effort to get to the ball. Then he is given forward progress at the spot that he gains possession.
PS I miss Mike Pereira.
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by distant_texans_fan on Jan 16, 2012 1:52 AM CST up reply actions
Which makes "forward progress"
an oxymoron in that case
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by Barryfromtexas on Jan 16, 2012 9:17 PM CST up reply actions
Our defense played out of their minds.
We played hard, and made Baltimore earn the win. I’m looking forward to next season, when everybody is healthy this team will be dangerous.
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by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 3:27 PM CST via mobile reply actions 7 recs
You guys were the better team...
if Jacoby Jones had stayed in Houston.
Was rooting for the Texans. Sad ending, man.
It's sad when that my 4 year old niece with a broken leg would have done a better job than JJ
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Im not happy with this season
And I hope the Texans make the changes they need in the off season, and the super bowl should be the goal next season.
If he's available in the 5th or 6th rounds, I'd say yes
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:32 PM CST up reply actions
That is one helluva defense you guys got there in Houston.
Good luck next year and dont be counting out my Titans too early
by infinitystealth on Jan 15, 2012 3:29 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I AM SO FUCKING PROUD OF THIS TEAM...
MINUS JACOBY FUCKING JONES.
TJ did what he could against a stout defense.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jan 15, 2012 3:29 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
agreed.
I’m proud of TJ. He tried to be a hero at the end, but, he can definitely be the future qb. Schaub’ll be back, and he’ll continue to grow. I loved what Yates brought to us this season.
by wiseonekms on Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
Definitely Yates is the QB of the future
However Schaub is the QB for the present
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by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
I would disagree that Yates is the QB of the future.
Yates didn’t have a truly spectacular game all season. His best was the first Cincy game, but even then the completion percentage wasn’t very good. I don’t want a game manager for a QB, I want someone you can depend on when you need to.
Yates has shown hints of having upside beyond what Schaub currently brings
He’ll have to improve a lot to get there, but I think Kubiak can bring it out of him. I’m fine with looking at him as Schaub’s successor whenever Kubes decides he’s ready for it.
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really?
you are gonna decide that after 8 games?
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
8 games with the best O-line in the league
8 games with the best RB in the league
8 games with one of the best defenses in the league
and he barely grazed 300 yards ONCE. I don’t see him being more than a game manager
You know that's really not fair.
He wasn’t even active the first 10 games and he’s had several games already against top 10 defenses. He’s needs coaching and work with the offense but that doesn’t mean he’s going to be little more than a “game manager”.
I really like his potential and poise. I mean not every rookie QB can come in a post Cam Newton like numbers.
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by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
yeah because all mvp qbs go 10-0 and 500 yards in their first 8 games.
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vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
ditto
Yates showed Texans fans something this season. He has some serious potential. If people can’t see that, I don’t know what their expectations are of young qbs. Not realistic obviously.
Yes that's exactly what I demand from Yates
Cripes, guys. Seriously, look at his stats for the games he played. Most games were around a sub-average 50% completion rate for about 150-180 ypg. That really, really isn’t very promising. I cannot see his ceiling being much higher than a Joe Flacco, and no offense to Ravens fans but I think we can do better.
you're not considering the fact that
he was a basketball player his whole life and only played football for the past 4 years. He’s clearly a work in progress. He has certain skills that won’t show on a stat sheet that we have to respect, such as:
1. Mobility (which is a huge plus in this bootleg/playaction offense)
2. Poise (he makes bad plays, but comes back unscathed)
3. He’s still SUPER YOUNG. Plus, consider the fact that Andre wasn’t in a majority of the games he played and you will get a more realistic picture of his upside.
4. He keeps his eyes downfield at all times. Now, this also has a downside that at times he stares down receivers, but, again: ROOKIE. It took Aaron Rodgers nearly 3-4 seasons on the bench before he became what he is today. Many people discounted Alex Smith and Eli, but they look damn good now, don’t they?
Be fair to Yates. He was thrown into an extremely awkward position in an offense that is very sophisticated. He handled himself excellently, and we need to respect his skill set and tools if we want to project him in the future. He’s still very raw, give him a couple of offseasons, and he might surprise the F out of everyone. (except me ) lol
by wiseonekms on Jan 16, 2012 1:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, when you look at his numbers
consider that we’re a run-first offense now. We don’t need our QB to throw for 300 yards/game anymore. Even Schaub was only averaging about 240.
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I think I'm riding shotgun on your TJ bandwagon.
I still say Sundays game was mostly TJ’s fault, but it was all rookie mistakes. A couple more years of good coaching and I think he is going to be a formidable QB. Fuck the “game manager” label. Kubes didn’t use him as a “game manager”….if he had TJ would not have had 5 INT’s Sunday!
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
bro, he was a rookie.
by that logic, Dalton, Matt Ryan, and Bradford are all “game managers with little upside.” He has room to grow no doubt, but he is definitely our future.
he threw three fucking interceptions
at least this will shut people up hoping for a QB competition this off season. Schaub would’ve won this game, no doubt.
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That was a hell of a game and barring opening game jitters, defense played lights out. A 3rd string qb from being behind is hard as hell to overcome. If the coaches stay, this team will be back next year.
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by SOUNDRAIDER on Jan 15, 2012 3:29 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
A lot of Seattleites coming out of the woodwork
I’m not alone!!!
To your point, if everyone stays healthy next year and we address some big needs this year, I think we’re Super Bowl contenders next year.
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by UprootedTexan on Jan 15, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Somewhere, Sage Rosenfels smiles because he knows he is off the hook.
by Flazka on Jan 15, 2012 3:30 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Uh, no he's not.
The Rosencopter will always have a special place in the pits of the stomachs of texans fans everywhere.
TJ didnt shut off his brain, he took some shots and made some errors
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by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but if I had to name the biggest, most costly bonehead play in Texans History..
I’d be talking about Jacoby trying to field that punt.
You may be right.
They’re definitely in the same ballpark
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by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Absolutely
If you put the Texans offense on the field, say at the five yard line, up 3-0 in the first quarter, and you’d see a different game. If we don’t get into a 17-3 hole early in the game, we’d have been able to attack more on defense and taken less chances on offense.
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by distant_texans_fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:06 AM CST up reply actions
Brightside:
Everyone healthy, and another draft + Wade.
We are primed for a REAL Superbowl run.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jan 15, 2012 3:30 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Positives
1. Coaching has tremendously improved from last season.
2. JJ Watt, nuff said.
3. Yates got some valuable playoff experience.
4. As referenced above, the O-line was spectacular all season long.
Negatives
1. Jacoby
2. Jacoby
3. Jacoby.
by wiseonekms on Jan 15, 2012 3:30 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
Rackers wasn't terrible.
that was a solid kick, inches off in the wind. He gets a pass. Turk vomit Hartmann is our punter of the future, undoubtedly.
Respectfully disagree...
When I see NFL kickers routinely hit 55+ yarders with room to spare, I have to take umbrage with our kicker dorking a 50 yarder off the upright. To be in the upper echelon, you have to execute in all facets of the game.
agreed
Rackers was quite good last year, but has demonstrated he doesn’t have the leg strength anymore. We need to be thinking about a new, young kicker that we don’t need to worry about for the next ten years.
Have to respectfully disagree with this. lulz
There are very few NFL kickers “routinely” hitting 55+ yarders….much less with room to spare. I can think of three but only know the teams of two of them….that mutant in Oakland and the Ravens kicker.
Would love to see a list though if anyone has the time. And one attempt a season and making it does not constitute “routine” in my mind.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Let's start with this season.
The following list is the made/missed numbers for the kickers who attempted at least five FGs of 50+ yards:
Sebastian Janikowski (OAK): 7/10 David Akers (SF): 7/9 Phil Dawson (CLE): 7/8 Jason Hanson (DET): 5/7 Nick Novak (SD): 4/7 Rob Bironas (TEN): 6/7 Billy Cundiff (BAL): 1/6 Nick Folk (NYJ): 3/6 Robbie Gould (CHI): 6/6 Graham Gano (WAS): 4/6 Josh Scobee (JAX): 5/6 John Kasay (NO): 2/5 Neil Rackers (HOU): 4/5
A couple things stand out to me:
Jason Hanson is at least 153 years old and is still doing it from distance (long of 51).
Billy Cundiff (the Raves kicker you mentioned) was 27/31 (87.1%) from inside 50. I wouldn’t put him in the same class as Janikowski.
Matt Prater’s absence from this list (3/4) is really surprising considering where he plays. In the win against the Bears, he nailed one from 59 that looked like it would have cleared 70 easily.
Other notables not on this list: Prater, Mason Crosby, Ryan Longwell, Stephen Gostkowski, Lawrence Tynes, Matt Bryant.
In summary, there are definitely quite a few kickers that are making kicks from 50+ at a rate that (probably) exceeds expectations. Does that qualify as routine? Who knows.
I can expand this out to several seasons if you want a broader view (night shift at work gets really really dull…).
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by Synchysi on Jan 16, 2012 8:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks!
Exactly what I was looking for….I didn’t realize there were that many attempting from outside of 50 yards. But I think I still have a valid point, that is only 10 kickers out of 32 teams that are above 50%. Which I would call pretty dang good at that distance. One being our very own Neil Rackers.
I’m not sure if I will say what I am thinking correctly, but the numbers to me do not look “routine” even in the attempts. A total of “only” 10 in a 16 game season at the most? To really pin down the number that might constitute routine would to me of course require trying to breakdown how many are attempted “on average” in a “typical” NFL game, etc, etc. But the eye test to me says that 50+ yard field goals are not something to just take for granted.
And very few kickers are in a class with that mutant Janikowski. lulz
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Well, I put the line at five but there was a decent handful of kickers at three and four attempts as well.
Also note that only two of those kickers played on teams anyone would consider as having an explosive offense: Detroit and New Orleans. There are outliers like Prater (horrible offense, would expect more long attempts) and Crosby (terrific offense), the lack of long range attempts for the latter probably being more a result of just how good his team’s offense was rather than a lack of ability.
Of note, the league average success rate for field goals over 50 yards was 63.6% this season, compared to roughly an 86% success rate on all attempts inside of 50 yards.
Interestingly, the Bengals had a grand total of zero attempts from that distance. No other team had fewer than two.
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Nice follow up.
Still kind of a mixed bag of results isn’t it? Except for the 23% difference in success rate from outside to inside that 50 yards.
Just my $.02
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In appreciation of such fine research.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
ya
but that’s irrelevant b/c Hartmann will be back next season.
Rackers gets no hate
50-yard FG in the cold is hard.
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by TexansDC on Jan 15, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Didn't look like he put his whole leg into it.
It looked like a chip-shot kick with the wind at his back
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by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
No, it was a 50 yarder, but he hit it like a chip shot...
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by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
Oh, I see what you mean
He’s never had a lot of distance though, at least not since he’s been here.
He’s also notorious for playoff misses…
Rackers is still ok
you try kicking a rock 50 yards, ’cause thats what 30 degree temperature turns a football into
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by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
^^THIS^^
I have played soccer and sandlot football and I bruised the shit out of the top of my foot once attempting a punt in 30 degree or less weather as well as trying to clear a soccer ball in the same type weather. It was also wet that day which made it worse. lol
Just my $.02
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You guys definitely outplayed the Ravens
If Schaub haden’t been injured, I bet you’d have been the #1 seed. No doubt you’ll be a frontrunner next season, see you guys next year.
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by Dynamic Dreadlocks on Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Although next seasons schedule will be rough...
AFC -south and NFC North…. Not a shabby bunch.
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
If you want to shank anyone, consider Albert Haynesworth
That sorry mfer wrecked our season. I watched Brady run the sneak and as he lay there with the toe of his foot prone to the ground, heel up I thought about that fat p[hucker jumping on Schaub in a similar position. Nobody got near Brady’s foot on his play which also reminded me how little respect our QB gets. HaynesChokeonaBiscuitandDie didn’t even receive a penalty for his filthy dirty move. So anyway. And it’s true, you can coach up corners in one year if you have the correct coaching staff. These guys were improved by several factors for one reason – better coaching.
Did anyone see the look on Arian Foster's face when he was stalking the sideline?
The chip is growing……man next season he is going to tear up some ass….. So lets strengthen the OL and find two WRs.
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
by TEXSON on Jan 15, 2012 3:32 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
yup
this team will be on a mission next year. i can see them starting to get ready in a week.
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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
also of note, the look on the Ravens cheerleaders faces
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
Those two are bussdowns...he could hit them both right there on the field with their ugly asses!!!
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
LMAO!
they are totally checking out his ass.
damn i want that ass
to get PAID. Rick Smith, get to work !
by nigeriantexan on Jan 15, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions
Is it racist...
To notice the two black chicks staring at his ass?
by GatorTD on Jan 15, 2012 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
both white girls are waiting for him to walk by
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vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Not to mention the non-chalant "fixing" of her hair....
to cover the looking down. lmao
Just my $.02
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What about the white chick staring at his wad?
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
she is trying to play it off.
“What chocolate thunder? I don’t see anything.”
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vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Did someone call me?
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by Foster Child on Jan 15, 2012 8:43 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Ravens Cheerleaders...
“OMG look at that booty!!”
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I think
that’s exactly what we’re going to do. I was pleasantly surprised at Kareem’s coverage today too. He didn’t look lost, and the receiver he was defending had to make an incredible catch along with Flacco having to make a perfect throw. That was good to see out of him. He showed up today.
He did his job
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by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
Ravens fan
Great game guys. You guys gave us a run for our money. Tough Defensive battle and could have went either way. I’m sure this won’t be the last time we will meet in playoffs.
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by AV23 on Jan 15, 2012 3:32 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
Swap for Leach?
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by distant_texans_fan on Jan 16, 2012 2:14 AM CST up reply actions
I love, love Mario Williams, and I know that this can be subject to scrutiny, but
Brooks played AMAZING. He has a great future in this system, and it kind of makes you think twice about paying Mario crazy money. Dont get me wrong, he deserves every penny of his next contract, but he also has a great replacement in Reed. The money will obviously go to Arian, who by the way is godly in this system and he needs to be payed, but Mario should be slapped with a franchise tag IMO, make him earn a longer contract next year.
franchise tag is too much
he deserves a long term deal. i believe the players will see how close they were and get a deal that works for them and the team. it would be dumb to break up such great chemistry.
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vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
if he gets a long term deal, i want there to be incentives for staying healthy and sacks per year.
Make him earn the money, not that he hasnt his whole career. But he should play with a chip on his shoulder with such a viable option behind him
^agreed completely.
I love the crap out of Mario, but I would like to see this too.
Also, I would like to see the Texans invest a late round draft pick on a “scat” back, like a Darren Sproles type. I think a player like that would do us wonders.
wasn't it the Texans who picked up Trindon Holiday?
he’s the last guy as tiny as Sproles I remember getting attention in the draft.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
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by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
we don't need a scat back
we already have excellent #1 and #2 running backs. we need a straight up baller for a wide receiver. Someone who can be #2 for the next three years and move up to #1 when AJ retires. No gimmicks.
agreed
but, man, we could use some explosion on this team. Foster and Tate control the clock and get the nasty yards, but it’d be nice to see Schaub have an option to dump off to a guy who can slither his way for 20 yards ala Sproles.
I believe you are thinking of Foster
You see that one handed grab behind the LOS for a first down? Foster is one of the best open field runners in the game. We don’t need a scat back.
That was an insane catch.
He never did touch it with his other hand.
Just my $.02
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If anything, I think it would just be easier to move Holliday to RB & use him in that role
But that’s only if he’s learned to catch the ball
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"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Again, Dwight Jones or Nick Toon should fit that bill
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Franchise tag is over the allowable limit... He may take a paycut but it will be a longterm deal 9-10yrs.
He will retire a texan
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Back on the weakside
with Brooks Reed rotating in, thats a solid group of olbs
by EI4630 on Jan 15, 2012 3:41 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Reed is starting-caliber.
Either we let go of Williams or we trade Reed for a 1st and a 4th. There’s just no cap room for both Williams and Foster, the way I see it.
you make cap room.
you get rid of cody and mitchell and anyone else who is dead weight. i trust rick smith to make the right moves. he has been consistently good for this team and im not going to start doubting him now
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:46 PM CST up reply actions
u get rid of *JACOBY*
lol. I don’t hate Cody as much as most of you. I think he fits our system and is solid as a nt. I’m thinking we’ll cut Ward, Leinart, Studdard, Jacoby, and restructure many contracts. We might also have to cut good players too, which is a damn shame.
Jacoby?
I have disliked us having Jacoby for 3 years now, and was happy that his contract was up in 2011, thinking we wouldn’t re-sign him. We did, so do you really think we’re going to cut him so early into a new contract? Not defending, really asking the question
I've had time to think about this
after cooling off. You’re right Majestrate, chances are we’re not cutting him, nor trading him. As much as it pains me to say this, he serves a purpose on this team. He’s a #3 receiver that sets edge blocks very nicely and he has good punt return games every now and then. Chances are sub-50% that we cut him, so more than likely he’ll be back…and I guess I’m …….“ok” about that, as “ok” about it as I can be after his disgusting performance this season and this game in particular. ugh….he reminds me of how I felt about Sasha Vujacic on the Lakers. Like…sure you suck and you made mistakes that cost us a ring, but like Sasha, Jacoby serves a purpose, and I don’t want to experiment with special teams/punt returner.
Hey, maybe he can redeem himself like Vujacic and make some big ft’s!!
Yes, yes I do.
Just because he was resigned a year ago doesn’t mean the contract isn’t structured to release him now.
The Houston Texans: The Ron Paul of the NFL.
Get rid of Mitchell and Cody.
So play a two-man line?
yup. green bay runs a 2-4-5
you put your best players on the field.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
why not?
they got a ring. new england runs crazy defense schemes as well
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
not on the back of their defense
at least this year.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 4:10 PM CST up reply actions
Why switch what the Texans do now to something that's high risk high reward?
Texans defense was FAR better than either the Pats or Packers this year so why switch to what they do? Makes no sense.
As I type this GB gives up a long TD…
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
What makes you think Watt can't play inside?
he does it probably on 50 percent of the plays already
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I think that would be outthinking yourself.
Watt’s fine where he is.
What?
But then you’re simply rebuilding the team all over again. You get better by improving the talent in the system you have, not by overhauling a system that is finally coming together
how is this overhauling exactly?
we move one person to a different position and put Williams at DE. 5 of 7 players stay in the same place, and Watts responsibilites barely change at all. In what way it that an overhual?
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Phillips’ system, however, has the linemen-even the nose tackle-playing a one-gap system. At the snap, each of those linemen picks one of his two gaps and shoots through it. He is responsible for anything coming through that gap, with the linebackers responsible for anything coming through an open gap. (We’ll cover the linebackers more in a second.) While Phillips’ scheme does generally use larger DEs similar to what you’d find in the traditional two-gap 3-4 front, his system does not require them. Case in point, while all of Dallas’ DEs this year were over 300 lbs, Luis Castillo played at 290 or less while Phillips was there. Yes, that’s big in a 4-3 DE, but that’s undersized in your traditional 3-4 mold.
Nor does Phillips’ plan require a massive nose tackle. Sure, he will use them when he can get them (again, think San Diego with 340+ lb Jamal Williams), but they are not required because, in Phillips’ scheme, the nose tackle has no more responsibility for eating up blockers than does any other defensive lineman. In fact, one of Dallas’ starting DEs, Igor Olshansky, weighed more than Dallas’ starting NT, Jay Ratliff, who is listed at 6-4/303 (though he is probably closer to 310 these days).
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
Yeah, that doesn't convince me.
If he was best used at NT, Wade would have played him at NT.
by willieboyd on Jan 15, 2012 6:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LETS TAKE OUR #2 RANKED DEFENSE AND CHANGE THE SCHEME TO ONE THAT HAS PROVEN TO BE NOT AS SUCCESSFUL!
PURE WISDOM!
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 10 recs
do you thiink I'm saying move to a 4-3 or something(which again we play a lot of anyways)?
I said lets move Watt to NT and dump cody, not move to a 4-3
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
No kidding
Watt was kicking inside quite a bit, even in 3-4 schemes. Mitchell and Cody saw the bench a ton toward the end of the season, and with good cause!
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Really Watt at nose in the base D?
I missed that. That is very interesting.
that... that was my entire argument
move watt to NT move mario to DE. boom defense is better and we still have all our picks.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
I understand your argument, but I'm not convinced Watt can be good at NT.
Or that he’s best used that way. If Wade has actually done it, it adds a lot of credibility to is feasibility.
hmmm
wasn’t that exactly what Mario DIDN’T want to do before the season began?? I wouldn’t mind it, but iono if that’s what the dude wants.
You didn't NoSaftiesNeeded did.
But you kept the conversation going.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
relax, he thinks he knows better than Wade
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
Add so quick Beefy Guys...People will come here now??? This franchise is a winner!!!
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Ok, maybe? I don't know.
I want Mario, with Reed as a backup to both OLB positions (if he can learn them).
Mario will have to sign something cap friendly
Foster shouldnt hold us hostage, he of all people should understand taking less money to keep a good team. Plus with jacoby gone that should add alittle more room. You need a rotation at old just like on dline, and there wont be many better then Mario, Barwin, Reed
Imagine this
A front 5 of Barwin, Watt, Smith, Mario, Reed on obvious passing downs.
This team's superstars may even restructure their contracts for a superbowl run
They want to play for a winner, and the Texans have proved this year that they can be a PLAYOFF team for years to come, and WILL be Superbowl contenders. There’s no regressing here, we have too much talent, at all levels (save Jumbaco Jones) to not contend for years to come. This is how a DYNASTY IS BUILT gentlemen!
You'd have to trade Mario...
…not enough history on Reed to make him valuable enough to trade
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
thats fine
but barwin more than willing moved over to the strong side and did amazing, so with barwin being interchangeable, reed fit in nicely over on the other side. either way, i am impressed with the defense and we played amazing this year
Mario plays WLB
So what are you saying?
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 15, 2012 6:41 PM CST up reply actions
Things that stood out the most.
QB play.
It wasn’t good enough and I knew it would be the key for a win or a loss. His first INT was one of MANY forced passes today for Yates. 23 of his 35 passes went to two guys which isn’t balanced enough. He missed on to many passes and overall just wasn’t good enough. Lucky really he didn’t have 7 INT’s. Kinda expected to due his experience but it still sucks.
Second was ST. The muffed punt was a huge gaff and if you want to talk hypothetically may have cost us the game but that first INT was just as ugly a gaff. Those two early turnovers cost us the game essentially.
But they made it much further than expected and I can’t really be mad about this loss when we had a rookie at QB. Disappointed yes but we have a great foundation in place and youth all over the team.
Of course first priority is to get Foster a new contract this offseason.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 3:33 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
gotta agree with ya man.
I know I’ve given Schaub a lot of crap, but Yates still needs to grow. I was impressed at his poise, he tried to be a hero when he should’ve just simplified the game, but he’s a rook, it happens.
Next year is looking very encouraging now that: JJ Watt, Brooks Reed, JJo, Manning, and Barwin are entrenched in their positions. We are looking good. I am very proud of our Texans (outside of Jacoby)
My biggest concern is that he has peaked and this is as good as it gets
then we waste time keeping him as a backup when we need a replacement
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Rather premature to say that about a rookie.
I think he has a ton of growth ahead of him. Just needs more time with the offense.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Why would you say he has peaked?
I’ve seen nothing that suggests that….but then I’m not an in depth X and O’s type person either.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
i dont blame him.
but i like the bad taste in their mouths. next year i guarantee they keep their foot on the throats of every team. great teams hit road blocks before they achieve greatness. next year will happen for us.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
yessir
Also consider how hungry Schaub is going to be. Everyone’s been talking about TJ the past 2 months. I bet he’s foaming at the mouth.
Dear Rick Smith
Please for the love of god, get a number 2 receiver, please!!!!!
by TheDream34 on Jan 15, 2012 3:36 PM CST via mobile reply actions 4 recs
It's more than that
WR corps as a whole needs an overhaul.
Nothing really behind Andre.
Gotta cut Jacoby….restructure Walter’s deal and bump him to 3rd. Need a FA WR2 + Drafting at least 1 young guy….maybe 2.
"Lord, beer me strength."
Walter cracks back on lineman in-line. You can't move him to 3rd.
by willieboyd on Jan 15, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
It's really subjective with the lineup as to who is #2 or #3
The WR corp needs someone else who can create space and make plays.
"Lord, beer me strength."
james casey could do that...
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
#2 is owen daniels
not subjective in my eyes. TE schmight end
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
yep.
I was gonna say that. He’s very valuable in the run game.
Also consider Owen was playing w/ a broken hand today….we showed a crap load of resilience. I’m hoping we do address the wr position though. A solid #2 would help out a lot.
This is such bull.
Look at Baltimore. Look at Atlanta. Look at Green Bay. Etc. They all have two serious threats. All this week we had no idea whether we should be more worried about Boldin or Smith. No one who isn’t a Texans fan even knows who JJ or Walter are. They are not threats.
Its about the style of offense
We don’t need a super star #2, but we do need someone better than Fucoby.
The Houston Texans: The Ron Paul of the NFL.
Here DaGoaT goes again....
We had this discussion last draft and what did your WR (Jacoby and Walters) do this season overall…. add the numbers are they as good as a top number 2? Get off it dude!!!
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
It's the QB position and Andre going down.
Our other WRs are fine, except Jacoby (lol).
well our receivers block more than other teams.
and both of those guys arent GREAT, so they complement eachother as much as play better than one another.
Watch Walter motion and block in line. None of those guys except maybe Boldin does that.
Start messing with the line-up and new problems crop up (like Arian’s ypc mysteriously going down).
Well Walter can stay, I got no problem with him
And if he is #2 in title, then good for him. We don’t have a serious #2 receiving threat, and Walter isn’t the answer. Jacoby most definitely isn’t the answer. Daniels is sort of kind of the answer when he’s healthy, but that’s not very reliable.
it sucks to go three wide and only one of them is a legitimate threat
we definitely need a receiver, I just don’t think cutting Walter is the answer. In this offense the tight ends are the de facto #2 anyway
we need a receiver to replace Jacoby
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 4:26 PM CST up reply actions
Don't want to agree
But, I agree. Texans fans know these guys, but who else? Opposing defensive coaches the week that they play the Texans? Not good enough. We need a legit #2 threat besides Andre.
our number 2 is a TE and our number 3 is a RB...
by _empty on Jan 15, 2012 8:31 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
I've always been Proud of the Texans
But I am extra proud today.
I will wear my jerseys, T shirts, and hats with extra pride in the off season.
No one can talk shit about this team anymore.
by SuperSerial on Jan 15, 2012 3:36 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
yup
i will still get my joseph pro bowl jersey.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe Jackoffby... could sign with Baltimore... He was their best player...
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
by TEXSON on Jan 15, 2012 3:37 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Pittsburgh fan here
Just wanted to say congrats on one hell of a season. I moved to houston a few years ago and it’s been a blast watching the Texans really get their team together. I was rooting hard for you guys but it just wasn’t in the cards this year.
Good luck in the off season.
-You're welcome.
by Jux on Jan 15, 2012 3:38 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Thanks. You guys are a class act.
Hope we can meet in the playoffs next year with 2 healthy rosters
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
JJ Watt
is simply astounding. He is playing at a Justin Smith-like level as a rookie! Hopefully he doesn’t have a Cushing-esqe sophomore year and raises his level of play to pure dominance.
God is not on our side because he hates idiots also.
by Meta Sandoval on Jan 15, 2012 3:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions 7 recs
He is testosterone squared!!!!
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
Anybody heard
if there will be a rally for our Texans when they get back?
Super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
most likely. they had a great season.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Harbaugh giving us major major love...
wants everyone to know,especially nationally, that our run game and defense is “As advertised..”
I know TJ could have played better, but Jacoby really put this team in a hole early and they couldn’t get out. This Defense couldn’t have played better and still that wasn’t enough to make up for those early mistakes. Luck was on the side of the Ravens today, and it clearly played a major role in today’s game. These two teams were pretty evenly matched, and it showed. This was a great game. I still love this team and can not wait to start next season when our boys can prove once again that they can play with the big boys and win. Go Texans!
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
by Joe25 on Jan 15, 2012 3:40 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
if they don't cut Jacoby what can we do to MAKE them cut him?
we need to draft a super religious WR to run him out of time or something
I honestly liked the ref work today
a lot of questionable calls, but with 2 physical defenses and run offenses, they let the boys play
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Jan 15, 2012 3:42 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I didn't see a single questionable call.
And I loved that they didn’t throw a flag on the Boldin/Allen scuffle. That one noncall proved to me they were just letting the boys ball it out.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
i hate this fucktard
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
He looks like a goomba from the Mario bros movie.
Yep, I'm a Texans fan... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I filp tables every Sunday. （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
if he had any honor he would have committed hello kitty on the sideline after his fumble
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Fuck him.
Fuck Smithiak if he’s on the team next season.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
That's probably a broken man.
I don’t think he’s mentally tough enough to overcome that shit.
Yea
He’s too out there mentally to overcome.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Thats the same goody kind of look that Romo makes when he screws up....
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:54 PM CST up reply actions
He should not fly home for
a week month year ever
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
by MeMongo on Jan 15, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
y is this not green and red
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
Every time I see this picture it pisses me off a little more
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:19 PM CST up reply actions
Are you high? or is that just Stupidity?
Doin stuff so nasty that you have to do it twice to confirm the level of nasty!!
this is the first ending of the season
when i didnt feel like reaching for a bottle of bleach.
Hahaha...same here.
I’m proud of this team.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 4:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i just want everyone to remember that we got to where we were
with a homeless man’s aaron rodgers. how many teams make it through the season and win their first playoff game with a 5th round pick, 3rd string qb starting? this will be a much better team next year.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:43 PM CST reply actions
Only five rookie QBs in the super bowl era have won a playoff game
And that isn’t an endorsement of TJ Yates. The team around him (aside from Jacoby) is spectacular. Can’t wait to see Schaub leading the team to a super bowl next season.
by Calvinball on Jan 15, 2012 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I love what Rick Smith did this offseason
but paying Jacoby was not one of those amazing moves.
by astrosfan3 on Jan 15, 2012 3:44 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
In all fairness
Jacoby looked good filling in for AJ at the end of last year. I guess he should have seen the signs though.
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 3:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Jacoby did look good earlier in the year when Dre went down....ok, he looked better than he normally does, anyway.
But why pick today took lose your mind?
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
he's not clutch when we need him
he’ s more liability than clutch MOST of the time, and today was just a microscope verification of that
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Well fuck my life
All came down to 4th and 2. Anybody else thing TJ should have run for the first and then proceeded to bomb the endzone? Not enough time? Should we draft another WR to not make it so obvious that we’re gonna throw it to AJ?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 3:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think the hail mary was a bad play call
But it’s over. It is what it is.
It was a great year overall.
btw. DeMeco played amazing today. Best game of the year for him. Good to see him light up ray rice.
I think we can end the Ray Rice vs. Arian Foster debate after that.
Arian Foster it is.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
by steelblue on Jan 15, 2012 3:44 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
Absolutely on both counts
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
PROUD OF MY TEXANS
This was one HELL of a game and one HELL of a season. Our defense is the undisputed BEST in the league. I wanted to win more than anything but I’m holding my head high and knowing that the Pats know they DODGED A SILVER BULLET CALLED THE HOUSTON TEXANS DEFENSE!!! I LOVE THIS TEAM!! GO TEXANS!!!
Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 15, 2012 3:44 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Proud of them, too.
Helluva game by the O and the D. Jacoby Jones fucked it up.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
from a titans fan
awesome Defense awesome running performance, maybe the best i’ve seen all year. great season. congrats on a great year making history.
"you should have seen the look on my fathers face when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist"
by stetix01 on Jan 15, 2012 3:46 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
you guys have gotten scary. get healthy and lookout.
"you should have seen the look on my fathers face when I told him I wanted to be a ventriloquist"
by stetix01 on Jan 15, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
I am wigging out right now waiting for August
Let’s do this.
by SuperSerial on Jan 15, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
Looking forward to the Titans Texans race for the the division. You guys sure surprised everyone this year.
by TheDream34 on Jan 15, 2012 3:50 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Kevin Walter - 8 targets, 2 receptions
we can do better than that. I would draft one WR that can also return punts and sign a top notch free agent WR. KW can be the 4th guy.
Also, Kubiak needs to find a way to get James Casey on the field.
by goingforthecorner on Jan 15, 2012 3:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
I think Ryan Broyles would be good for you guys
of course I love Broyles in general. Sure handed, good routes, quick with return experience.
He just doesn’t have elite WR upside.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
I loved Broyles but then he suffered a season ending knee injury
I’m tempted to go all in on Justin Blackmon
by goingforthecorner on Jan 15, 2012 3:49 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, he's not a late 1st, early 2nd guy
but big upside as a 3rd-4th rounder.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
And given how run-heavy Wisconsin and Iowa are
You better believe I will be pimping Nick Toon and Marvin McNutt hard this offseason.
"Lord, beer me strength."
other than Andre
they kinda suck
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
Word.
Shown a lot today…..Jacoby was a non-factor, Walter had trouble separating on the outside……Bryant Johnson’s just some dude.
They need some youth to develop as well as someone who can make plays. Walter and AJ are the only two worth keeping.
"Lord, beer me strength."
It's called a rookie QB.
We had a top 5 passing offense with these same guys.
Andre played a major role in having a top passing option.
But this season proved that having an Elite WR surrounded by average at best WRs is a problem. especially if that elite WR goes down and/or a back up QB has to play some meaningful snaps.
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
Texans pass offense was pretty solid in the games he missed (with Schaub).
Lets please not forget that this offense with Yates throwing is just not as good as with Schaub throwing. He distributes the ball far better and has much better decision making besides better overall command of it.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Our passing offense the last three years.
#4, #1 and #4.
We could use a replacement for Jacoby (AJ replacement/3rd WR in multiple WR sets), but I don’t see it as a huge problem.
That's what I'm saying.
A bit of an overreaction here because the passing offense with Yates hasn’t really been good since he took over and it’s more about Yates’s shortcomings as to the offenses regression.
Yeah we need at least one new WR but the situation isn’t do or die.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Dwight Jones or Nick Toon in the 1st round would be best
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
we can improve on jj and bryant johnson
and probably walter too. Its that simple.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
OK, let's get more defense
either way we’re improving an area of strength. No glaring holes this offseason, which is awesome by itself.
much easier to get an instant upgrade at WR
then NT and CB.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
oh, I agree with you
my comment was directed at willieboyd. The only other position that takes precedence over upgrading at WR, for me, is O-line. my wish list:
O-line
WR
NT
LB depth
agreed
I would have felt better if Butler hadn’t been lost early. We were one injury away from seeing…who? Derek Newton? I don’t even know. Caldwell is a big dropoff too
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Big difference when Brisiel was on the bench
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:24 PM CST up reply actions
Then again, with a healthy O-line we have Butler and Caldwell backing up
I really don’t mind seeing either of them in the line-up. I don’t think O-line is a huge priority.
we need better depth
it’s rare for an Oline to go a year without injusry, as we did last year, and this year the dropoff to Caldwell was huge. Look at the time Yates had in the pocket today (against a good pass rush), and compare to games where Brisiel was out. Big difference
Yeah we need some depth, for sure
I just wouldn’t want to see a first rounder. A second round pick I can understand if the guy is a stud who happened to fall. Third is what I would like.
ok, second, but not much lower
if we go Oline in second it should be because there’s a great receiver available in the first. And not Dorin Dickerson great either
We need a Speedster. Someone who can get seperation with speed.
Kendall Wright – if he’s there.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jan 15, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
That's what Jacoby is supposed to be. We need someone that's more of a complete player
Dwight Jones or Nick Toon is our best options
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions
thats right, but he rarely gets open and he loses in a contest
plus, he sucks at PR
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions
We can either spend a later pick on a return man or bring back Demps to handle that job
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
No if we get a WR we need a complete WR not a one dimensional player.
Lestar Jean might be that “speedster” when he gets off IR this year and makes the team.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
I don't think he's a speedster, but his size makes him a good receiving option
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
35 passes for Yates.
23 of those went to Andre and Walter. That is just locking in to much by Yates. Andre is great but he forced it to him to much today (15 targets). That first INT was just as bad as the Muffed punt.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
how many targets
did OD have ? I thought they would try to expose Pollard in coverge
by nigeriantexan on Jan 15, 2012 4:30 PM CST up reply actions
Good call. Surprised they didnt do more to isolate Pollard knowing his coverage weakness
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
Un-be-liev-a-ble
I’m trying to get passed my anger and appreciate the amazing season we had. What a shame that one stupid play set the tone for the game. Great defense, the goal line stance reaffirmed my belief in humanity. Go get em next year boys, we’ll be ready!!!
by Reddguitar on Jan 15, 2012 3:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I think we could win the AFC with a healthy team next year.
The key is Schaub staying healthy Foster getting paid and a new OLB if Mario isn’t back.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Highly unlikely that we don't franchise Mario
by goingforthecorner on Jan 15, 2012 3:48 PM CST up reply actions
i honestly believe a lot of guys will restructure their contracts to make a one year run.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
charlie casserly said 22 mill. he might be wrong
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
QB number was 23 last year
I don’t think DE/OLB is that close behind, but it’s almost certainly the 2nd highest F-tag number.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
Not sure what's accurate.
NFL.Com posted an article about franchise tags a few months ago :http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d8247df3a/article/2012-franchise-tag-figures-will-be-down-across-the-board?module=HP11_headline_stack
Which seems to conflict with what ESPN has said.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
But the thing with Mario
Is that his franchise number would be less than 120% of last years salary, so he gets 120% instead, 16.5M
by splanket on Jan 15, 2012 4:00 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
How could Charlie Casserly be wrong?
Especially about personnel moves?
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
the same reason we fired him?
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:17 PM CST up reply actions
It's 16 or 16.5 against the cap
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:01 PM CST up reply actions
$16.5 Mil
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
We can't franchise him
16.5M against a 123M cap is impossible, no two ways around it. Long term deal or he is gone
by splanket on Jan 15, 2012 3:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Well we didnt win but I have to say I am damn proud of this team
Ive never seen a team fight that hard to win a game. This team is going to be nasty next year when back at full strength and with some new draft additions. And hopefully one WR subtraction.
by Biggity B on Jan 15, 2012 3:51 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Also wondering what was up with OD not getting more involved
were the Ravens blanketing him or Yates just not looking for him enough?
by goingforthecorner on Jan 15, 2012 3:51 PM CST reply actions
Easy enough to believe that his hand was an issue
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:52 PM CST up reply actions
I think this draft will be fun because we can finally afford to take BPA...
without risk leaving a gaping chasm in one, or several, spots. I would love to see a WR, NT, or CB, but we can also use better depth at several positions including OL, LB, and Safeties.
"Eat Well, Stay Fit, Die Anyway" - Ancient Chinese Proverb
by Hugh Jarce on Jan 15, 2012 3:54 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Wrong
Never can have enough LB in a 3-4
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
But not as a high a priority as other positions
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Oh of course not
LB depth is mid round priority at best.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Mario, Reed, Barwin, Braman outside
Sharpton, Cushing, Demeco, Dobbins, Alexander inside
anymore and you start cutting guys.
Braman and Alexander are special teamers
They really shouldn’t be on the field for anything other than that.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Thats all thats needed
Depends on Mario but go get a guy who can play inside and out and boom, profit.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Def feel like trading up if there is a top WR available
I still think we need a good corner too
As long as someone videotapes it...
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
i also believe free agents will be interested in this team.
they see how close we are and no one in the division is a threat right now. if manning comes back things change but even then i believe we can still take the division.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 3:54 PM CST reply actions
Like who?
This idea is making me hungry
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
WR2 arguments end
Jacoby Jones + Kevin Walter = FUCKING MISERY and FAILURE
DRAFT TIME BABY!!
Blackmon or Jeffrey trade up! We don’t need volume in the draft, we need a big time WR and a couple of OL depth.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
still disagree about Walter
but the ship has sailed on Jones I believe. Fuck him. Fuck him hard.
Yea Walter still makes big plays
Jacoby makes 1 big play surrounded by multiple drops or fumbles or screw ups
not just that. Walter's a role player, but it's an important role, and he is sure-handed when he needs to be
plus gritty
Sure handed eh?
Who did that last pass bounce off of to end our season?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 4:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
yes, on a Hail Mary in a crowd of purple jerseys
you are correct
That one was even more maddening, imo.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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He didn't even TRY on that last catch
He literally turned away from the ball toward the endzone he was already in. Also he had stone hands early in the game. Not acceptable.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Your assuming his role was as a jumper
its very possible it was designed for him to try and clear some defenders while Fucoby leaped for the ball. The way Walter wasn’t looking for the ball leads me to this conclusion.
The Houston Texans: The Ron Paul of the NFL.
Actually I saw the play in slow mo and he was looking right at the ball with his arms cupped for it when Reed's hand tips it out.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:23 PM CST up reply actions
Blackmon is going top 5
Jeffery and Floyd probably won’t fall far enough either without a sizable tradeup
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Blackmon won't
could see it with Jeffery or Floyd
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I know.
That’s what I’m saying those two are likely to fall. WR just isn’t as valuable high in the 1st.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
assuming nothing big happens
if Blackmon comes off as a headcase in interviews, Floyd gets arrested for alcohol again or Jeffery is fat or slow at the combine they’ll slip significantly.
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
But those things would make them too unattractive to Smithiak
…and Dre would kick their asses daily in the locker room.
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Hard time believe the rams won't take him #2.
The other two yeah maybe but the Texans don’t typically take those type of guys.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Kalil or trading back with someone who wants RGIII are on the table too imo
Choke/Clutch is the fetishization of the small sample size.
"The noble title of "dissident" must be earned rather than claimed; it connotes sacrifice and risk rather than mere disagreement."
—Christopher Hitchens 1949-2011
by shake n bake on Jan 15, 2012 4:06 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah but unlikely.
They already have high round draft picks on their O-line and invested a lot in Bradford already. They just need a playmaker for him on offense at WR.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
we can afford to trade up
we don’t need high volume numbers this time.
WRs are much lower risk to bust than QB or RB
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Fuck it. Lets go deep.
All in for Blackmon
intriguing
I’m not against it but I’d bet any amount of money it doesn’t happen
amended: I Am against it if it goes as far as the Falcons went
I’d go first and third, tops
Oh it wont
Rick Smith is a better GM than I, he will find good players with the picks we have.
It's not that big of a need.
You can find a Victor Cruz or Greg Jennings in later rounds. I’d rather see a better NT taken. That spot could use an upgrade.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
agreed
all skill position players are gambles, but compared to RBs, QBs and CBs…WRs are a pretty good bet.
That must mean that following it is fatal to your franchise...
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
It was for him
I’m not sure how much of that was “Millen can’t scout talent” versus “WR’s are risky” though. Buffalo has also had some bad ones. It’s hard to do analysis on because a significant % of the busts are concentrated to just a few teams giving you a “chicken and the egg” dilemma
True.
On the other hand, Matt Millen is a large-type idiot. The only thing he does worse than run a football team is try to be a color commentator.
I can imagine all the plants dying at his house because he has this toxic touch.
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
lol nice
Millen could kill a cactus
by Jason Brown on Jan 15, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Smithiak wont go for a pure burner....
…they wont go for anyone not big and physical enough to support the running game
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 3:57 PM CST up reply actions
This is correct
whoever they go for will have to be able to block
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
Jacoby "Black Tony Romo" Jones.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Jan 15, 2012 3:57 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
"I don't always play completely terrible"
“but when I do I make sure it costs you the game”
/Dos Equis commercial
The Houston Texans: The Ron Paul of the NFL.
by DaGoaT on Jan 15, 2012 5:19 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I am by no means a Kareem Jackson fan
But why the hell are all Texans fans blaming Kareem. Did Kareem turn the ball over 4 times?
by TheDream34 on Jan 15, 2012 4:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Habit?
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
I don't blame him
he actually had ther best game I can remember from him.
He still sucks though
Yea Torrey Smith had what 1 catch all game with Joseph on him
Kareem still has issues getting his head around
Look at Flacco's numbers, they are garbage
And then keep in mind that he had like four passes that were miracle throws&catches in great coverage. Kareem played a good game, hands down.
he had 3.
Kareem defended 2, and one of the completions was well covered by Kareem, Smith got lucky.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
And Jo Jo shut down Smith today. No big plays, he was a non-factor
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:02 PM CST up reply actions
I think the D line shut down Smith more than Kareem did
but Kareem did play good coverage today.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:32 PM CST up reply actions
this is true...I had a senior moment
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
not blaming him for the game
just stating that he doesn’t need to be playing next season.
The Houston Texans: The Ron Paul of the NFL.
This.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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Houston is realistically Top 2 in AFC in 2012
Even with tougher schedule, they will be at around NE’s level, depending on what they do on defense. PIttsburgh & Baltimore have aging defenses, Cincinnati will still have 2nd-yr QB, Denver is going nowhere with Tebow, and the Chargers kept Norv. And forget about anyone else in the AFC South. The Colts will have a rookie QB, Jags stuck with Gabbart, and the Titans don’t scare anyone. Houston is hosting a Round 2 game next year.
Depends on health again this year
healthy we wouldve been the number 1 seed easily
So who can we look to drop over the off season?
Jacoby?
Leinart?
Anybody else making descent money that we can do without?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 4:09 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Kareem Jackson?
idk what his contract is but he needs to be dropped like a hot potato
KJax - seriously
Between Allen and maybe Harris, we can find someone that can turn their head.
"And now", said Max, "let the wild rumpus start!"
If we cut Kareem, someone will sign him before he hits the practice squad
After this last game, he doesn’t deserve to be cut. It sucks that he got a rookie contract before they were restructured, but I honestly think he’s shown he’s good enough to be a #2 CB next year.
Maybe another year under Wade will bring him up to par
But with signings draftees and hopefully re-signing Super Mario and Foster, we need to make some room
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 4:22 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
KJax has progressed
Is he CB2 worthy? Not most of this year, but late on he played better. Year 3 will be a make or break year.
by Calvin Paquette on Jan 15, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
me thinks that he has become good in coverage
now he needs to work on ball hawking skills.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM CST up reply actions
A full off season will help
I still don’t trust him, but I think we’ll see him here next year. He played his best game when he needed to; those completions against him were just too good to defend.
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
by f22a4bandit on Jan 15, 2012 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
Not eligible.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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btw how long before vince youngz fan boys start talking shit?
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 4:09 PM CST reply actions
I'll listen to them
when VY carries his team VY is carried by his starting QB to the NFC Championship game
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
I'll listen to them
When VY is starting VY has more playoff wins than TJ Yates.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
End of a season, start of something bigger
We had one hell of a year. Defense was stout. Offense was awesome. After losing our #1 WR for half the season, our badass OLB for most of the season, our #1 QB, our # 2 QB and tons of others, we won our division and our first playoff game. Who else did that? No one.
I can’t wait until next year, but I’m damn proud of this team.
Go Texans!!
"And now", said Max, "let the wild rumpus start!"
by Kidaster on Jan 15, 2012 4:11 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
^This
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Jan 15, 2012 4:13 PM CST up reply actions
yup chicago melted down the stretch.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
I think we need to look at a WR in the first round
We have the 26 or 27 pick right now, I could see Kendall Wright or Mohammed Sanu. Wright could replace Jacoby on the punt returns… Cause were gunna cut his ass.
by Chris McC on Jan 15, 2012 4:12 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
We should try and trade up, IMO.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 4:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
If its not a dumb trade like the falcons
than Im all for it.
by Chris McC on Jan 15, 2012 4:15 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
BEST. TRADE. EVAR.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Seriously.
I’m going to miss that guy. Luckily, the Falcons exchanged OCs with the Jags. LOL!
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
They weren't!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. If the Saints can land Spags…sigh…
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Yes.
No chemistry with the team, only knows one play call, has completely unnecessary complex defenses, and calls blitzes irregardless of down and distance and situation. Essentially, he’s the Mike Martz of defensive coordinators.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
There's a good reason many of us here didn't want him pre-Bush
And these are great reasons you’ve enumerated.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
The fact that he turned Shaun Rogers and Franklin into complete and utter shit this year, should speak volumes.
Let’s also not forget Malcolm Jenkins “development” Tracy Porter’s decline, and Roman Harper’s continued employment as a cover man.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
I really want Kendall Wright
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
by Antho10000 on Jan 15, 2012 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We don't really have a deep threat though
by Chris McC on Jan 15, 2012 4:18 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
We don't really have that kind of offense
Need guys who can run crisp routes and create space.
"Lord, beer me strength."
You dont think he can create space?
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Andre is the deep threat
We don’t have someone to keep him from being doubled and tripled every play, though.
We need someone who can replace AJ
Much as I love him, we need depth behind him. Someone who is a deep threat.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, WR is definitely the only area I think we might be a bit light on...
Though the front office will do a whole lot more research than I will.
True, Jacoby can be replaced.
A future #1 and a 3rd WR in multiple WR sets, but Walter is on the field for a reason.
Heres to a great season
Never been more proud o be a Texans fan. Been a helluva ride this season and look forward to being the best team in Texas for many years to come. Thanks for the great season Go Texan!!
by texan fan in cowboyland on Jan 15, 2012 4:12 PM CST reply actions
Watt and Reed.
Both of these guys are going to be a huge part of our defense for a long time.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 4:13 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I love what Dan said about Watt
“he’s going to be a terror in this league for years to come”
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Jan 15, 2012 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
I couldn't believe it when Dan said that,
He was practically cheering for Balitimore all game. What a putz.
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
That was nice to hear, definitely.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 4:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
When the game will be no one knows, but we get our equivalent team from the AFC North at Reliant next season
and our finishing in 1st place and the Ravens in 1st place means we play.
I think. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
It may get primetime regardless based on today's game alone
Hell, it could be a Monday Night game
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
It's Sunday Night Worthy
Early prediction: Houston gets 3 prime time games (Baltimore on Sunday night & Denver & Chicago in Monday nighters) + Thanksgiving in Detroit (it’s Detroit’s year to host AFC team on CBS, and they have HOU & IND on home schedule).
You are correct
Ravens are one of our 8 home opponents.
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
ZOMG
I’m jumping off the bandwagon!
by MaloneyPony on Jan 15, 2012 4:21 PM CST via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Yeah
I don’t think you can do sarcasm font on mobile. MP isn’t like that and is being a silly goose.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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Bye.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Wait till we pull up to the cliff, then jump off
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions
The one thing Yates has over Schaub is athleticism
and he used it on the one great play he made to elude Ngata and find Dre.
Other than that though he didn’t run at all, and I felt they gave him plenty of open room to take off. Would’ve liked to have seen more designed runs.
by goingforthecorner on Jan 15, 2012 4:23 PM CST reply actions
a few escapes for 1st downs would have been sacks for Schaub today
it’s a wash, and may the battle for QB begin
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I think we should wait a season before we consider Weejay a starter over Schuab
Official hype-man of the Flour Bluff Academic Decathlon team
are you kidding me?
the battle ended when this game did. those interceptions were terrible, every single one. Schaub has the job, just as he should. He’s better, hands down.
OK
another season filled with Schaub tossing shit to shoe laces and behind receivers….fucking yay!
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Do we wait and see on Leinart?
Or is he gone?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 4:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
So gone
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
he's #3 or gone depending on contract and trades
but I don’t see anyone trading for him
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Contract
is $3M in 2012. No way we pay that with the cap space that we need to clear for Williams, Foster, and Myers.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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Leinart is history. Thats serious cap money, there.
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
Yay so more TJ overthrows, under thrown check downs and forced passes next year?
Schaub is far and away the better QB right now. 27 PPG with him 17 PPG with Yates nuff said on that.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Truth.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 4:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
recc'd
good god does MeMongo not know what he’s talking about.
I'm not comparing the two anymore
I’m saying Schaub isn’t the answer either. Far too many issues with him since about mid-2020 with arm issues (hidden injury?)
Schaub is better than Yates, but not our long term solution if he can’t get the ball downfield without our receivers having to stall to wait on the pass, shoe lace tosses, etc.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
damn keyboard 2020 = 2010
some speculate Schaub has a rotator cuff injury that hasn’t improved. His arm strength and accuracy has been way down compared to his 2007-2009 seasons.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Hopefully he comes back COMPLETELY healthy and smashes the league
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
would love to see it
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
He has plenty of arm strength but his deep accuracy is lacking a bit.
Which isn’t a big deal because he’s very good with the short/intermediate routes that he gets plenty of big pass plays in.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
????
Go back and watch any game from mid-2010 to before he went out and notice how many times Andre Johnson is deep and alone but slowing down and waiting for the ball to get there….as the defense catches up and tackles him.
Then go back and watch games in 2007-2009 when Schaub hit ’Dre in stride for TDs on the same play.
That’s arm strength issues. Again, some speculate rotator cuff injury undisclosed by Texans.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I say that because I saw Schaub throw some very long passes in games this year.
Like the first Jags game and a hail mary in the ravens game. And he made some real nice deep passes to Andre this year like the two in the Dolphins game.
Not really sure why he and Andre have had issues with the deep pass but it should be noted that offense was different from the one in 2007-2009.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 5:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah there were deep passes.
But like MeMongo said, the eye test says AJ was having to slow down and/or come back for the majority of them.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
I don't see a battle
If Schaub had played today, the Texans win. In a 2-3 with TJ who knows? He definitely looked better than we had a right to expect from a 5th round rookie, but he’s not Schaub
Its Schaubs job to lose now.
Yates grew a lot but still has so much more to improve on. Schaub probably gets us a w today. Every single one of Yates picks were horrible decisions and he zoned in on Johnson way too much.
by Dmo_Htx on Jan 15, 2012 4:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Schaub
like to throw"
- pick six in over time to Ravens to lose games
- shoe lace targets at his WRs
- behind his WRs so they get broken up or killed
We don’t have the QB situation figured out at this point. SUCKS > Schaub > Yates > Delhomme > Leinart > bag of shit
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I would have loved to see TJ get this team to OT.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
oh and Matt Shaub lit up this Ravens D last year.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
didn't we attribute that to terrible route running by Jacoby Jones
Funny how short our memories are.
Schaub was playing as well as any QB before he went down this year.
You sound like a Schaub hater despite him keeping this offense on track this year without Andre for several weeks and a hamstrung Foster early in the year.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 4:45 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm not a Schaub basher, but it's going to be a controversal off season about if he can run again
or like Rothlesburger limp…
no he wasn't, he was limping around completing 10 passes a game for like half of the season
where is this playing as well as any QB in the league stuff coming from?
INT ratio,passer rating, yards, completion percentage, wins, yards per attempt, points per game
You know, stuff that you measure QB’s by.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess he wasn't beating Rodgers, Brees, or Brady in any statistic
hence you’re overstating his success quite a bit.
Well there you have it
All we have to do is pick up Brees. That should be an easy offseason
by Jason Brown on Jan 15, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 8 recs
....
I seriously don’t know how I’d feel about that.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Darn, he was only the fourth best QB in a year where the top 3 all surpassed Marino's records
gosh dern it.
In the most literal sense, yes it was false
But also meaningless towards the point you are trying to make
actually the only point I'm trying to make is he was overstating schaub's success
You are the one’s trying to turn it into something else.
I never said he was tops in the league but he was among the top.
He was playing as well as any of the other QB’s around him statistically when he went down.
But if it’s a big deal for you here: Schaub was a top 10/top 5 QB before he went down this year.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
yeah, it kind of is.
saying he played as well as any of the truly elite QBs is simply wrong. top 10 top/5, OK sure. As good as the top 3, hell to the no he’s not.
So the point above stands.
If you can’t get a top 3, Schaub is your best bet.
Your logic is faulty
You are saying that the Elite QBs are only the top 3 because Schaub is no. 4, and that this is proven by the fact that he isn’t one of the top 3.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:51 PM CST up reply actions
no, i'm saying Schaub isn't as good and has never played as well as Rodgers, Brees, Peyton, or Brady.
it’s really not that complicated guys.
Rec'd for quoting Jules Winnfield
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
I wasn't implying that either. You just found it convient to take the phrase
“among the best” as “he’s on the level of Brees Rodgers etc..”
I don’t see why this is difficult to understand. When you looked back at what he had done through 10 weeks and compared it to the other QB’s in the league he was among the best. You claim that’s false yet it’s not.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
that is logical. guess the wording got me.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:37 PM CST up reply actions
'Dre made Carr look good on stat sheets, even though "mittens" was a disaster
Schaub is a “good” QB, but he’s not ‘great’. His arm strength and accuracy issues littered this blog nearly every game. Again, if he can get back to 2007-2009 ability, he’s “great” and able to move this team to a Superbowl. If he keeps tossing floaters deep, shoe laces mid/short, and behind receivers, then we’ll have issues.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Cool.
Never said he was great though. So not sure what the point of that post was.
Just pointing out he was having one if his best years here ever. On par with his 2009 season for sure.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 6:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm not a Schaub hater nor am I a TJ fanboi
I am VERY frustrated in 2010 and 2011 seasons with watching ‘Dre break deep coverage and then have to stall around and wait for Schaub’s ball to get there, in which time the defense catches up and we end up inside the 10 yardline instead of catching it in stride for a TD which the Schaub of 2007-2009 was able to do.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I've had people on this blog
actually argue that it’s a good thing that Dre has to slow down and get stopped inside the 10 because we get to burn more clock
Yeah some real idiots everywhere it seems. And it's one of the stats that keeps 'Dre down compared to the NFL WRs
but who cares about stats. I’m more concerned with how may FGs we kick after failing to get TDs after ’Dre’s catch, and also the impact of ’Dre being nailed for a stop instead of gliding for a TD
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I was thinking something similar after Mannings' opening return today
It sucks to only get 3pts after a great start to your drive like that
Not a chance.
Schaub will definitely be the starter come September. Who knows how things will shake out after 2013? But that much is certain.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 4:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No QB battle what-so-ever
TJ will humbly don his cap on the sideline, until he’s needed for some clean-up time. Hopefully he learns from all this experience shoved on his plate, and if he sticks around, he will definitely be a sentimental favorite to possibly compete a few years from now.
by SkycatF14 on Jan 15, 2012 4:43 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Competition to sign Foster?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 4:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nope. RFA.
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Thats pretty baller
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Jan 15, 2012 4:34 PM CST up reply actions
Both of those guys are awesome
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Lewis had a LOT of respect for Foster and Houston post game...
… so did the coach and the rest of ’em, understandably so.
I think we are better than NE. Not even close.
Defense + Running game = Bad News for NE. Check their last 2 playoff games.
Only 1 team in the NFL had a Top 5 Defense and Top 5 Offense until Shaub got hurt.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
by steelblue on Jan 15, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
NE is 1 dimensional.
All they have is a passing game. No Defense or Running game.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
oh and Baltimore is better than NE. NE didn't beat a single playoff team this year except the Tebows
just shredding some light on NE. I think they get way too much credit for beating up bad teams.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
I am as big of a Texans' fan as there is...
But, I’m also not wearing Texans’ colored glasses. New England is the class of the field this year. Brady is light years ahead of Yates, Schaub, Flacco, whoever. They’re offense is damn near unstoppable.
I would have Andre and Arian's love-child...I think.
and the NFL right now is all about elite offenses
It seems like you really can not just “get by” but play great with poor defense as long as your offense is that good
San Fransisco's defense kindly disagrees
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:34 PM CST up reply actions
I like that about them
But don’t they seem like more of the exception? I mean you go from Brady/Rodgers/Brees to Alex Smith. That’s a hell of an extreme
duh, they aren't going to trade him
it’s just a hypothetical, we’ve got quite a few more months to ponder what ifs.
Right. But if I COULD trade Mario for Peyton...
…I wouldn’t do it in a million years…
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:46 PM CST up reply actions
Hah. With the titanium alloy chassis...
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:56 PM CST up reply actions
that's stupid.
one missed season and people forget who the best player in the league is. Mario isn’t even the LB, DE, or whatever you want to call it. if you have to trade Kubiaks first born son for Peyton you do it.
See, there's this thing that OC's have called a "system"
Kubes has one, and Peyton has one. And they’re not the same.
Avoid conflict in the huddle is stupid, then?
5 years ago maybe, but now I wouldn;t trade my firstborn puppy for Peyton.
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
Oh he could figure it out, he just wouldn;t agree with it...
…and after what 13 years? and all his success he’s gonna adapt to someone else;s scheme for what 1 or 2 years. No way. NO WAY. That’s Cowboy drama….
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 5:02 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, no way Peyton would want to run the ball well, sit behind the best O-line in football and and have the best WR in football at his disposal along with a top ranked defense
he’s such a diva, that Manning.
You have a penchant for missing the point, friend.
These are live human beings with experiences, and desires, and ideas, and most of all, EGOS. If you think you could plug Manning into someone else’s system at this stage in his career, then you need to turn Madden off for a while and play another game. Happy trolling.
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Peyton wants TOTAL control on the field!
Kubes doesn’t roll that way. It would be oil and water and Peyton would be trying to change plays at the line of scrimmage etc. I predict it would be ugly.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
Toolshed has been trolling as anti-Schaub all year, and is probably a closet Colts fan
Just ignore him.
Hah. You know, that DOES make sense,,,
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions
Think of how much better this defense would be with Mario
I think you add another high caliber WR and Schaub can be elite
Sad thing is...
Mario could have played today, if he wouldn’t have been on IR. Said as much in an interview earlier this week. NFL needs more flexible IR rules, with all the injuries and consequently quicker recoveries these days.
yeah, it's a seriously outdated system.
NFL needs something like the MLB system.
HELL no
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
Mario is a FA
so you can’t trade him. Also, if you tagged him ($22M) and traded for Manning, you’d struggle to afford Foster and certainly couldn’t afford Myers.
So, no, I wouldn’t. And neither would anyone with an ounce of sense.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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LOL
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
What do you get for Schaub?
Either way, the thought of this makes me want to vomit.
- Rivers McCown, From Mom's Basement | Twitter | Football Outsiders | Battle Red Blog
by riversmccown on Jan 15, 2012 9:12 PM CST up reply actions
metal pins they use to hold the bones in place.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
I was rooting for you guys today, it’s always a bitter pill to swallow. hang in there, we’re gonna need a rival for the next 10 years.
we're gonna skate to one song and one song only.
Thanks for the love, good luck
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Jan 15, 2012 4:35 PM CST up reply actions
The Giants fans are killing themselves on their game thread, lmao
The fix is in. Shit I thought we pound on each other too much sometimes.
Can't get over how much I hate Jacoby Jones's being on this team.
He needs to be gone. He cost us a Super Bowl shot.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Ed Reed admitted in the press conference that this would have been a different game with Schaub & Mario
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
Really respect the way the Ravens players and staff are handling themselves
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
I think with just Schaub its a different game
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
and without....Jacoby....ughhh. I hate that mofo
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Think Fox will cut away from the last 16 seconds of the Packers-Giants game to show a Dallas Cowboys end-of-season Spectacular?
Maybe featuring Tony Romo on the beach, and American Idol hopefuls?
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
All this talk of who should stay, who should go...
I will say this, I’m 100% fine with keeping Kubiak and Wade.
by Flazka on Jan 15, 2012 4:45 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
Fine, as long as Jacoby is gone.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
I keep seeing comments about a TJ v. Schaub battle next season...
and without getting into that debate, what do you do if some desparate team with a new coach makes a ridiculous offer for TJ?
It’s basically the Kolb situation. I could see a coach willing to gamble on a young guy with a little bit of experience (plus some playoff action) rather than an unproven rookie…especially if they miss out on Luck/RGIII
If it's ridiculous take it.
Yates’s small body of work would be stupid to trade a high draft pick away for but if someone is willing to do so sure.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Yeah I'm not saying it would be a good decision on their part
But it really wouldn’t surprise me either. There are more teams that need QB’s than there are top ones available in the draft.
IMO if you get an offer you don’t hang onto TJ as the QB of the future, Schaub isn’t exactly old for a QB and you can draft/groom one later
Make the trade
then draft another QB late. Kubiak is the QB whisperer remember
At a glance
I can see about 5 teams who should at least be making inquiries. Possibly more depending on offseason moves
My guess would be
Seattle, Cleveland, Miami off the top of my head. Maybe the Jets too
Washington
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
They would have to trade up for him
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Only team ahead of them that might take RGIII are the Browns.
So maybe.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
True, but Yates would be cheaper
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:06 PM CST up reply actions
I could see that, and you have the Shan connection
I think MIN and JAX should be at least curious but probably won’t because of what they have invested. It wouldn’t be flashy enough for the Jets, they would rather trade their future to move up and grab some overrated player and let the press start hyping him from scratch.
Seattle makes a lot of sense to me
I don't see that happening...
There are plenty of QBs available in the draft; there are a few other back-ups considered to be starting material, such as heir-apparent Matt Flynn… no one will go after TJ with a serious offer.
Ok let's break this down a bit....
Franchise tag on Super Mario is 120% of salary which IS 21 million. So that is not happening. Leinart is gone. Jacoby is gone. With Mario gone it 18 million in space next year. Add in Leinarts 1.5 and jacoby’s 1.2. thats 20.7 million to pay Foster, and upgrade at WR2 and CB2. NT, QB3 and Kicker in the Draft. I think we can do just fine without Mario if he decides not to restructure.
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
This is what I'm thinking
If Mario doesn’t take a SERIOUS hit in salary, I think we’d be better off with that 20 mil in cap space.
From what I've been able to find Mario's cap # this year was about $15mil
If we made it work this year we can probably find a way next year. Not saying that it’s the right move, just that people overlook how high his figure was this year
I'm factoring in
the 18 million he is due as his cap number. 15.6 was his salary this year.
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 5:05 PM CST up reply actions
Right
but my point is it’s only a 2.5 million increase in our cap spending for next year which isn’t much. Jacoby is around $4 mil from what I remember
3.5 guaranteed over 3 years so 1.2 for next year.
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 5:09 PM CST up reply actions
Guaranteed $ isn't total cap figure
If Jacoby is on the roster he receives $10.5 over 3. Our hit from cutting him would likely be less with some different allowances, but the league never really gives us much info on that
thats true
I’m just doing math on the fly so I could always be wrong. You know us Engineers. lol
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
There's doing math on the fly...
and then there’s trying to sort out NFL math. The cap calculations are so ridiculously complex with all sorts of allowances, deductions etc which we aren’t privy to. Us casual fans are just guessing mostly. It’s like trying to figure out how the Eagles kept signing people last offseason…
reason Big Bob hired the NFL contracts guru...
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
what happened to
Lestar Jean and Roc Carmicheal? Both injured correct? There’s Jacoby’s and Kareems replacements right there.
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 5:04 PM CST up reply actions
and replace allen with Harris
there is another 946,000 right there! Good call forgot about Harris
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 5:07 PM CST up reply actions
Allen will be a free agent
I think someone take a flyer on him. I even think we bring him back if he takes a discount. I just hope Kareem is gone
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
Kareem will be here.
Antwan Moulden starts for the Patriots.
I hope Kareem is starting for the Patriots next season as well
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:13 PM CST up reply actions
This
We have so many young CB’s taking up space that they are going to have to see what they have with Harris, McMannis, McCain, Carmichael (not to mention the enigma that is Kareem). You either get a legit starter via FA (which I doubt because of cap restrictions) or replace him internally
and Roc Carmichael?
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
I still think we take a WR in the 1st round
We still need a legit 2nd option at WR. I think Lestar Jean takes Bryant Johnson’s spot if anything
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
True
this is a good option. I would take Toon in the second round. you?
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 5:11 PM CST up reply actions
He won't be there for us unless we trade out of the 1st
Dwight Jones would be my first option, but I would even reach for Toon if Jones is off the board
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions
Jones is a beast
A big physical 6-4 receiver would be a god send to Schaub
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 5:21 PM CST up reply actions
Jones value will skyrocket during the combine
We might have to trade up to get him. I would be fine with that.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Speed wise, he'll probably run between a 4.45 & a 4.53
But with that size & long stride, I’d gladly take him
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
Nope, not if it gets them by the DB, & especially not at 6'4"
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:36 PM CST up reply actions
Hard to cut and run sharp routes.
A “long-strider” label is a negative on scouting reports.
Watch some of his gamefilm
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:47 PM CST up reply actions
Give Smith, Kubes and the rest of the front office credit...
I think they can figure out a way to sign Super Mario to a solid deal, which gives us some wiggle room… you can’t tell me that Mario wasn’t totally itching to play in the playoffs while on the sideline, and can’t wait to do it again next year. Who else would have this good of a team, and the cap space to sign him?
Also very true
But we don’t know whether he is willing to do that or if he wants somebody to show him the money. If his loyalty is hear then it’s a moot point.
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
I think we all missed
Matt today. I know I did.
by bantams28 on Jan 15, 2012 4:49 PM CST via Android app reply actions
Hey Texans fans. Just wanted to come by and congratulate you on your season. You hung with a good team today, a break or two and you win. What you guys accomplished this season with all those injuries is amazing. Next year is going to be scary for the teams on your schedule, no doubt.
Can I get some hot sauce for my doughnut?
by FrankWyt on Jan 15, 2012 4:53 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
I wish the offseason was as fast as it is on Madden
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
exactly
I’ll probably listen to NFL Sirius on Tuesday (have Monday off) but don’t want to… I’m guessing there will be very little talk about the Texans, though I do think they significantly improved their national image this year and even today. They’ll still be underrated though, which will help!
Still haven't finished my season in Madden...
… time to take my undefeated Texans and win the SuperBowl… perhaps foreshadowing for next year? :-)
not me...I need time for my ulcer to heal
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
No way
I need a couple of months away. Feb-March is my offseason.
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
Boldin planting Jason Allen's head into turf makes Yahoo
Can you believe the Ravens didn’t commit one penalty?
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
this drove me crazy
I guess I prefer a game where the refs are asleep than one where they have yellow flag loaded into a gatling gun, but that was pretty unsportsmanlike.
Correction; Didn't get CALLED for one penalty...
"You mean, besides two chicks at the same time?"
by Ezekiel 25 17 on Jan 15, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions
That was BS how that wasn't a personal foul.
Boldin loves to get under an opponents skin. He got under Quin’s skin in the Monday night game.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Quin got him right back though.
I remember him shutting Boldin down when we needed the stops.
by Dmo_Htx on Jan 15, 2012 5:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know.
Allen pretty much tackled him. A flag could’ve gone either way, yet the refs kept ’em in their pockets. I prefer that they just let the boys play.
I come from a soccer ref background and was told several times that a good ref in soccer is one you don’t notice….I feel that applies in any sport though.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
I was screaming about this at the tv...
My wife agreed. You’re really telling me that Baltimore didn’t commit a SINGLE penalty the entire game? I’m throwing the BS flag on that.
Boldin’s egregious personal foul against Allen is only one of many examples.
I would have Andre and Arian's love-child...I think.
Bengal Fan
you guys should be ridiculously proud of this team…they gave everything today and could of won this game….What an awesome team…..I know it hurts…but just look ahead….
"In a battle between patience and power, patience always wins"
by ticalcaldwell on Jan 15, 2012 4:58 PM CST reply actions 11 recs
thanks!
stop by any time, you’ve got class, man.
Thanks Tical
Dalton, Green and Benson are ones to watch next year. Great team.
I don’t know what I can say about the owner without sounding like an ass, though.
Cincy fans have been classy, good luck next season.
Super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
You didn't need to do that.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
by Ethan Matz on Jan 15, 2012 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
A lot of people have been dropping by and exhibiting a lot of class
This guy isn’t one of him. Don’t let him get to you.
oh, he's definitely one of ours...
making a point about Jacoby would be my guess….too soon.
'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert
I think Jacoby made that point himself.
I hate to deprive a man of his livelihood, but I think he needs to be gone.
He'll still have a liveliehood
Just not here, hopefully.
You're breaking my heart, you're tearin' it apart, so f**k you - Harry Nilsson
Saints probably could take him on the cheap
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:23 PM CST up reply actions
Fucking Flagged
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
I dropped a flag
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Hey look at that
I flagged you more times than the refs did the Ravens
Free Earl. Occupy Reliant
by NewJerseyTexansFan on Jan 15, 2012 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
Sometimes I LOL at the Rosencopter video.
But it’s been few years.
"Walter is a quality 2nd receiver. Jacoby is so bad that the two of them together is less than just Walter by himself." -Toolshed1
by RocketsAstros on Jan 16, 2012 6:58 AM CST up reply actions
I am so incredibly proud of these guys.
Best season in franchise history and my favorite. If someone told me TJ Yates would be our quarterback at some point in the season, I wouldn’t expect a playoff appearance, let alone a W. GO TEXANS
Free Earl. Occupy Reliant
by NewJerseyTexansFan on Jan 15, 2012 5:06 PM CST reply actions
By the way,
Sanu, Toon, Blackmon or bust
Free Earl. Occupy Reliant
by NewJerseyTexansFan on Jan 15, 2012 5:11 PM CST reply actions
Just came up w/ 3 on the top of my head.
We NEED a 2 WR. Then we would have the most complete offense in the AFC
Free Earl. Occupy Reliant
by NewJerseyTexansFan on Jan 15, 2012 5:14 PM CST up reply actions
Floyd would be nice
But his problems kills his chances here.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
I like ot having any problem cases on our team
makes them so much easier to root for and respect.
Blackmon will be gone, Floyd has too much baggage (3 DUIs)
Sanu will be a early 2nd round pick. Dwight Jones & Nick Toon are the best options for the Texans, but they have to get them in the 1st round
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
Ok our awesome season is over
Im ready for free agency and drafting, is it March/April yet?
What trade are you talking about?
I couldn’t find anything about us giving up picks next year?
We didn't give up picks from our next draft
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:28 PM CST up reply actions
where do you get 36?....I think we are 29.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
We're at 27
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions
Must be thinking about the conditional 7th we would've gave up for D Mason
But we keep it since he was cut
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Ravens fan here
I can not say enough how impressive your team is. Most teams that get off to that kind of start against us never recover, you guys fought hard all the way and the outcome was never decided until the clock hit 0. I’ve always been somewhat of a Texans fan, but now I’ll be pulling for you all the time, except against the Ravens. You guys are already one of the favorites going into next year, and you have the foundation that can bring multiple rings. Congrats on the season, and on the future, hope we don’t have to see you guys next postseason.
by YeahDonnie on Jan 15, 2012 5:12 PM CST reply actions 12 recs
Thanks man.
I gained a lot of respect for Reed and Harbaugh from their postgame interviews. I hope Reed can go next week.
This is probably his and Ray's last year
I hope not, but gotta be realistic. He’s playing unless his leg is missing.
Thx.
Don’t let us down, Ravens: get Ed his ring.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Thanks, we'll do our best
obviously, as a Ravens fan I want to win, but I want Brady to lose just as bad, I would have been rooting for you guys to go all the way if we lost today.
rightfully so
That was the toughest we’ve been played at home all year, I think. You guys are phenomenal on the lines, and with Foster, Johnson, and your other guys coming back, next year could definitely be your year.
Respectfully...
Hope we do see you guys next postseason, so we can return the favor.
GL against Pats.
I would have Andre and Arian's love-child...I think.
Thanks
You guys are getting a bye next postseason, I just hope we get the 1 and you get the 2, I don’t wanna play you guys in Houston.
Outstanding game
These teams are so similar. Go get the Patriots.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Thank you.
It was a hard fought game. I want to see these two teams meet in the AFC Championship game next year.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 6:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
As long as that game is in Houston
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
naw fuck that.
i would rather the texans go to baltimore and get some payback.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
WOW!
Giants fixin’ to screw Packers out of a repeat.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
I want to see a new champ
Either SF or Baltimore. I hate New England and the Giants won recently
Harbaugh Bowl rematch in the Super Bowl????
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Not necessarily
I wouldnt mind Balt vs. New York or SF vs. NE
This is all the talking heads will talk about all week long
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
Two things
Jacoby should do the honorable thing and commit Seppuku, and anyone who is saying TJ should start over Schaub please stop.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
by Mumford on Jan 15, 2012 5:18 PM CST via iPhone app reply actions
^^This.
Weejay played a great game, considering, but teh Schaub is still The Man.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Nope, TJ played a pretty lousy game, even considering...
He’s a rookie, though, and we’ll forgive him enough to let him stay and apprentice under Schaub for a few more years. Jumbaco Jones, though is NOT a rookie, but made a pop-warner rookie mistake, and he might not survive the shame of it all…
You're not really "considering".
Weejay is a raw-ass rookie, but he led the Texans on an 86-yard touchdown drive against one of the best defenses in the NFL. He damned near was the winning QB on the road in a stadium where no one wins. Give him his props.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
I think TJ could of played a hell of alot better.
by Dmo_Htx on Jan 15, 2012 5:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Full disclosure: I was quite drunk when I wrote this.
Upon further review, TJ was disappointing. We needed more from him. In addition to the picks, he missed AJ on a fade where ’Dre had the DB perfectly blocked out for a touchdown.
My hopes he might be better than Schaub some day took a hit in this game.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Still think he can be better than Schaub.
After listening to Kubes presser, he even made the right decisions against certain coverages, but someone didn’t do the right thing in the middle of the field to freeze Reed. Either that or Reed read it perfectly. But he still should’ve seen the safety cheating that way and thrown it somewhere else…..but that is a rookie mistake.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
I hope he can, because Schaub's lack of durability is now a major issue.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Lack of durability?
I thought we were past this. He played all 16 games in each the past two seasons, and by all accounts would have this year if not for a freak foot injury. He played with a separated shoulder against Jacksonville a couple years ago, and was getting his ass beat this year (see the first Baltimore game) but never missed any time. Hell, in the game in which he broke his foot, he played the vast majority of the second half after suffering the injury.
So please, stop with the injury prone label for Schaub. We were supposed to have gotten past that already.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Sorry to be late for this, but WHAAAT?
Schaub has played >11 games in 2 of 5 seasons with the Texans. Name me another top QB in the league with a durability record that bad.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
I don't consider players that suffer the nature of injuries that Schaub has injury prone.
It’s not a Matt Stafford or Chad Pennington situation where just falling the wrong way results in an injury, where you may start considering that his body is just not built for withstanding the rigors of professional sports.
It’s no real secret that Albert Haynesworth made it his mission to intentionally knock Schaub out of games. Drayton Florence and Jared Allen both took blatant cheap shots at him that kept him out for weeks.
Is he the most durable? Not even close. He didn’t take the beating that David Carr did, and Carr missed less time. But I’m sorry if I don’t consider a QB who’s missed time due to head-hunting defensive players as injury prone. I think it’s an entirely unfair label.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Even if we discount the nature of his injuries in his first two season here...
He played all 16 games in each of the previous two seasons, and the broken foot this year was nothing but a freak accident. Would you still have the same injury concerns if he’d been able to play this season out?
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
You don't think other QBs are subject to the same sort of attacks?
I love Schauby, but he’s brittle.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
I don't claim to know because I don't watch other QBs as much.
I’m sure they are, some more frequently than others. And they get hurt as well without being given the “injury prone” label.
I don’t mean to say Schaub is some ironman of the QB position. I get nervous every time he gets hit, the same as I get nervous every time Foster or Andre get tackled. I just think labeling Schaub as injury prone is unfair.
Maybe I’m making excuses. Maybe I just have a different consideration for what makes a player prone to injury. To me, he’s shaken that stigma.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
i said that earlier.
he should have committed hello kitty on the field right after that play.
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"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 5:30 PM CST up reply actions
That was a tough one to take.
All things considered, though, it was a quality showing and a great season. At the start of the year if you’d said we’d win one playoff game and the division I’d have been thrilled.
I really hope Wade is back next year. He’s the number one guy we need to retain.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Yep.
For now, I’ll settle for one playoff win and a good showing in a loss against a tough team on the road. But next year, we’re going all the way.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 6:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Draft:
While it may not be the most immediate thing, a strong O-line was a HUGE part in what got us to the playoffs. Without a good O-line you can’t run the ball, you don’t have time to pass the ball, and your offense turns to crap. The line is good right now but how long is that gonna last?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 5:32 PM CST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
What is it you're expecting to change?
WR2 still seems like the most pressing need to me.
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I agree its not urgent...yet
Most of the premium OL guys shoulf be gone in the first round but there might still be some quality in the 2nd. If there is a top OL sitting at the bottom of the first though, I wouldn’t be upset if we took him.
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 5:42 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
IF
A top OL guy is sitting there at 26/27 then I say grab him, but if not it’s WR.
Keep in mind that other than Duane Brown our whole OLine is basically late round picks and other teams castoffs. Rick Smith and Kubiak have done a spectacular job at putting together hands down the best Oline in the NFL, and I think we’ll resign Myers and draft Smithiak’s kind of OL guys this next draft to keep the macine oiled and running 200%.
by YohannDookeyblue on Jan 15, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
More depth would be nice
We definitely learned that lesson this year, and were fortunate that Winston and Brown stayed healthy considering all of the other injuries
Thin but damn I do like Jamison
I don’t think he gets nearly enough props for a rotational guy
Not ahead of Smith or Watt
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:48 PM CST up reply actions
I was wondering about that when Antonio disappeared for a while
Could he do it? Sure maybe, Wade seems to believe in him. I just couldn’t see it unless you needed to clear/trade Antonio’s contract for some reason
Antonio would be a BIG trade chip
And may be the only way to afford Mario. Would you rather have Mario or Antonio?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 5:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This won't be popular
But Mario if it was on a long term deal. Lots of OLB rotation + scheme flexibility. You would also probably need to draft a lower level DE for depth and/or see if Mitchell can play there soom (which I think he can on run downs).
Antonio is such a strange cog though, I don’t know who would be interested in him. Doesn’t have the edge speed for a 4-3, and a lot of 3-4 teams don’t play their DE’s like ours. He is more of a gap shooter than clogger that teams like NE/GB/OAK use.
Just sayin'...
It’s never realistic to expect a non-draft pick trade in the NFL. They rarely happen.
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Jamison starting is what we are looking at if a DE goes down.
Basically our starters are set, if we draft for need, it’s backups IMO.
Say we re-sign mario
If Antonio went down, could Brooks move to DE?
Doubtful
He’s a little light and different skill set. You would probably be better moving Mario there or maybe Mitchell
Not in this scheme, he'd be too small at DE
He’ll be a rotational player to give Barwin & Mario rest
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 6:00 PM CST up reply actions
This
I would be that our outside rushers use more energy per play than other positions between sprinting + battling with blockers so there is nothing wrong with keeping them fresh
With Reed stepping up in Mario's place
And Barwin REALLY turning it up this year, the best way to keep everybody on the field is to
A) trade Antonio (big contract off the books) and replace him with Mario. or,
B) slide Watt to NT and have Mario and Antonio as ends with Reed and Barwin starting.
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 6:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Not gonna happen
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
ISWYDT
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
You know, I just barely caught that myself
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
not saying its likely
Just saying that’s the easiest way to keep everybody on the field. A unit of Antonio Watt and Mario, Barwin Cushing Ryans and Reed, and JJ Manning Quin and insert CB2 here…would be tops!
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 6:31 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
We don't need to keep everyone on the field at all times
They need to rotate out to keep fresh
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:24 PM CST up reply actions
y would you want to
trade Antonio??! just for salary issues? um, no. Dude is a Texan.
We could add depth. Maybe replace Wade Smith
But we should be good along the line once we resign Myers.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
we were depleted in the O-line all season. While our starters were relatively healthy,
Most of our backups like Rashad Butler got hurt for the season during camp/pre-season. I think we’ll be fine in the O-line.
And yes. You have to build from inside out. Gotta start with the O/D-lines. Otherwise you end up like the Falcons.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Oh and Duane Brown is a monster.
He neutralized Suggs on his own. Wade Smith, while he has struggled at times this season, did a good job on Haloti Ngata.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
absolutely true
the OL did great today, led by Brown
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
A few words for Jakespeare
“[Thou art] a wretch whose natural gifts are poor.”
-Hamlet
“[Your] brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage.”
-As You Like It
“Go, ye giddy goose”
-Henry IV, part I
More here for all your Jakespeare-insulting needs.
http://www.crawfishboxes.com
The second one cracked me up. Spit Mountain Dew all over my phone…
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 15, 2012 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Thou wouldst eat thy dead vomit up, And howl'st to find it.
Henry IV, part 2.
You're breaking my heart, you're tearin' it apart, so f**k you - Harry Nilsson
damn the giants are destroying the pack.
and they have aaron fucking rodgers
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 5:34 PM CST reply actions
Draft choices
WR:
1. Mohammed Sanu
2. Alshon Jeffrey
3. Kendall Wright
4. Ryan Broyles
5. Patrick Edwards
6. Jeff Fuller
NT:
1. Dontari Poe
2. Jerel Worthy
3. Brandon Thompson
4. Josh Chapman
CB:
1. Dre Kirkpatrick
2. Alfonzo Dennard
3. Janoris Jenkins
4. Chase Minnifield
5. Jayron Hosley
no Blackmon on that WR list?!!!
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Alshon Jeffrey isn't realistic, he'll be gone before we pick
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
Chicago would take him if he falls that far
I can’t see him falling past #15
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
Alshon Jeffrey will be a bust
type in Alshon Jeffrey in google and the first phrase that it auto corrects to is “Alshon Jeffrey fat”. That is not a joke, that is the truth. try it yourself…
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
Rick's gonna need to trade up
and he should this year since we finally have depth in many good places. We don’t need a legion coming off the draft, we need quality
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
This is what I'm thinking
We have legitimate needs. I think we put our eggs into this draft and give up some drafts for next year. Then we make deals with our premium players and make some player trades.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 6:46 PM CST up reply actions
We can trade Jacoby to Tampa Bay
and maybe get a 2nd round pick from them. (hey they signed haynesworth)
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions
why!??!
If this draft proved anything it was that draft picks are EXTREMELY valuable. Depth is very much necessary, and having a “higher pick” is arbitrary. For the most part it is a crap shoot, and there is no way in hell we’re getting Blackmon, so no need to trade up to address the wr#2 need. If anything, I say trade down out of the 1st altogether.
No, we should just stay put & draft either Dwight Jones or Nick Toon at #27
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:25 PM CST up reply actions
i'm fine with that
my point was that there is absolutely no reason to trade up and sacrifice picks. If Jones or Toon are available and we can get them, great, if they are not: trade down and nab some more picks.
Would you really go all Atlanta to get him?
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
You'd have to go more
ATL went from 23 to 11, we’d be going from 26 to 2. Ain’t happening
Julio Jones was picked at 6
Watt was at 11
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
by Antho10000 on Jan 15, 2012 5:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
whoops.
Awkward. Still, trading to 2 takes a hell of a lot more than trading to 6, and trading to 6 already took a hell of a lot
I'm not down for it at all for the record
Unless he fell a little for some reason which won’t happen
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
exactly.
Usually, I’d be all about “trading up,” but this draft proved to me that we know what we’re doing. Stick to the formula, trade down if anything.
uh..we traded up during this last draft for Harris
we traded a 3rd and a 5th to NE for a 2nd.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I see us doing that again in the 2nd if there's a NT we want
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:50 PM CST up reply actions
Him or Josh Chapman would be nice
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:08 PM CST up reply actions
rec'd
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I meant in the 1st round.
lol, trading up and down in rounds 2-7 is cool I guess.
Trading up to the second round is nearly as valuable as the first.
trading into a third is still pretty good, but getting a first or second (especially a high second) is comparable. The only exception would be one of the first 10 of the first round, where you get the cream of the crop.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 16, 2012 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
You left off the two WRs who would be the best fits for the Texans offense
Dwight Jones & Nick Toon
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:41 PM CST up reply actions
Nah, I wouldn't take a chance on him
He seemed too jumpy when that camera fell on him
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
Poe will probably be there in the 2nd
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'd trade up in the 2nd for him
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
Don't like Wade Smith
but I think he played decently enough to justify looking elsewhere in round 1
If DeCastro drops to near us
I’d be cool with that.
4th round is where we should take an OL
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:46 PM CST up reply actions
That's where you get a Wade Smith.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
and Brisel was an undrafted free agent
so that logic isn’t really applicable
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 5:50 PM CST up reply actions
eww
and you get Duane Brown in the 1st round at pick 26
much better! but we need a WR 1st round
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I saw the Ravens O-line and was jealous
They have “the blind side” blocking on their right and Gigantor blocking their blind side. We have Brown (who is great) and Winston who I’ve always thought of as “meh…”
Not saying we need a first rounder on OL, but a second rounder?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 5:56 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Oh
I just credited that to our badassery
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 15, 2012 6:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, we shouldn't spend anything earlier than a 4th on OL
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 6:01 PM CST up reply actions
what if by the grace of god Decastro slips
i’m talking about staging DWI’s drug charges and what ever it takes so that he falls. you pass?
No way he falls that far
Too many other teams are desperate for O-Line help
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 6:10 PM CST up reply actions
Packers heating up.
Uh-oh: Kuhn is hurt.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Looked like a Rackers kick.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
We only have
2 in the region with a third on the way. Yeah everything is heating up a bit and its always good to pray for everyone deployed, but this a huge exaggeration.
"How bout that ride in. I guess that's why they call it sin city."
lol again
An exaggeration. The Helo ships arent to be categorized in the same way as an actual aircraft carrier. They are typically only accompanied by an amphib group and not near what a CSG would be. And really??? A French one.. OH MY now we mean business lol. Take the politics/fear mongering elsewhere this is a place to talk football. Take it from a DoD analyst thats been to the Arabian Gulf, your exaggerating and no one wants to hear it. I bid you good day sir.
"How bout that ride in. I guess that's why they call it sin city."
Gracias, AFTexan
Please, wiz, even though this isn’t technically politics, this isn’t the right place.
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wow...I think the Fleet decided to call his bluff
“We usually don’t repeat our warning, and we warn only once,” Ataollah Salehi was cited as saying by the state-run Fars news agency. “We recommend and emphasize to the American carrier not to return to the Persian Gulf.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2012/01/03/bloomberg_articlesLX8H976K50Y1.DTL#ixzz1jZpx4NHa
for everyone who is suggesting gettting rid of williams,
what do you propose that is REALISTIC (NOT FUCKING MADDEN) that would fit our salary cap and would make sense for the texans and be an even deal?
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 6:13 PM CST reply actions
Well if they don't resign him that would leave us with a good salary cap
and the clouds opened up and God said "I Hate you Texans Fans."
Our Andre, who art from Heaven, hallowed by thy name.
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Canton.
signing contracts and salary caps are not a zero-sum problem
The players do have the ability to negotiate below their value for a number of alternative compensations that do not affect the salary cap. Some will reduce their contract just for the opportunity to go to the SB. Some will take Bob’s word that he’ll make it up to them later (a matter of trust). So there is no way, right now, to objectively figure who can stay or go since we don’t know who is willing to give up what or what the players consider more valuable (ie: a huge contract with another team or a ride to the SB with this team.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:00 PM CST up reply actions
not signing Williams
opens up A LOT of cash for the Pay Foster Campaign!! There’s your deal.
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 15, 2012 8:13 PM CST up reply actions
I still want to sign Williams
But it would be nice to get an injury-free season out of him.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:15 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Ya, selling your truck frees up party money too
doesn’t mean you need to or want to.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions
point is Foster will get paid.
Players understand that you have to flex a little for the money if you want to go to the SB party
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Great point.
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But you can
when you have 5 other trucks parked in the garage.
I have an excursion and four trucks in my garage
the excursion is not the one i would sell, if any of them.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 16, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
Great Season
I just want to be on the record as saying I am so proud of our Houston Texans. And that Foster is better than Ray Rice. Houston was the better team today except on the scoreboard. Bless the Houston Texans.
Congrats on a good season, despite today's ending
I was rooting for the Texans to get to the Super Bowl (and would have been rooting for them to win depending on the opponent!). It was incredible to see the improvement in the defense, and also to watch a 3rd string rookie handle himself like a vet. Good luck next season… I’m a little nervous for my Colts!
by LovinBlue on Jan 15, 2012 6:22 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Thanks, LB
How’s the pregnancy coming along?
(Knows damn well she’ll never see this.)
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Yates should not have been the Playoff QB
Maybe some day Yates will become a NFL QB but he is just a rookie and as a rookie -Yates sucks and I cannot believe Kubiak would not go with an experienced pro QB for the playoffs and the regular season. Houston’s points per game dropped in half once Yates took over. Thanks Kubiak for your hard headiness playing a QB no one would have ever drafted but you. We had two QBs with playoff experience and neither one got a chance – thats idiotic !!
Yates was the right choice
I’d rather have Yates any day than an unpredictable Delhomme and a washed up Garcia
by MaloneyPony on Jan 15, 2012 6:47 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
so let me get this straight?
you wanted two old quarterbacks who have been sitting at home instead of on a team’s roster over a rookie who has been putting in work all season long and who is better than those veterans?
clearly you should be in charge and kubiak should be fired.
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 6:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah just saw he joined today.
i responded to a nobody
- Feeling the five stages of grief since 2002.
"It's either gonna make you a man or a coward. One of the two. I'm a be a man. I ain't never seen a coward, heard a coward, coward not in ma
vocabulary." - Lawrence Vickers
"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 15, 2012 6:51 PM CST up reply actions
You must not have seen Delhomme with the Browns
I trust Kubes to pick a QB, if not necessarily a DC. Never saw Garcia this year, probably with good reason.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 6:49 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
He made the absolute right call
No way do you go into that game playing either one of an old as Methuselah duo of Delhomme and Garcia.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
What?
Whaddya mean,“doesn’t know the playbook”?
He’s been into the playbook since pre-season.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Pretty sure he meant either Delhomme or Garcia
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 7:07 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Wow
I’m gonna flag this purely for cathartic reasons.
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My early hope for the 1st round (after listening to the arguments).
- D-lineman: Someone to push Jamison for time at DE or someone to push Cody and Mitchell at NT.
- WR: Someone to play 3rd WR in multiple WR sets. Hopefully enough upside to groom as future #1.
- CB: I hate to say it, with Kareem and B. Harris still on board, but we can definitely upgrade here.
- Transcendent S: These guys sometimes drop.
- Transcendent OG: Again, they drop.
can't go CB again
look how our last 1st round CB worked out
Better talent evaluators here now may make a difference
Corners in general take a while to develop to their potential too, so we may have guys already on the roster that would be better.
I’m not crazy about starting another rookie corner, but not against drafting one, especially late.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 7:24 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'd rather get another FA CB, who can help JJo teach KJax
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 7:52 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, but a FA CB might prefer us because of where we are going
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:01 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather cut Kareem & give Jason Allen the money we were paying Kareem
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
A million times THIS
CB is not a position where you can draft someone and expect them to start on day one.
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
Unless you're Patrick Peterson
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Patrick Peterson was NOT good this year.
IIRC, he got lit up several times. He had some highlight-reel plays, but he had just as many go against him.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
He was still better than Kareem's rookie year
and didn’t Devin McCourty make the Pro Bowl his rookie year?
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
Jermon Bushrod is a proboweler.
Nuff said.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Pro Bowl?
No idea.
Was McCourty uber-shitty this year? Yes, yes he was. Far worse than Kareem I’d reckon.
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Some guys overachieve their rookie year then never live up to their expectations the rest of their careers
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:42 PM CST up reply actions
"better than Kareem's rookie year" does not make something good.
By your logic, Ryan Leaf was a good QB because he was better than David Carr. And bfd already made my point about McCourty, so I’ll refer you to his post instead.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Heh
I seriously dig your new sig line.
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I wouldn't be shocked to see KJ cut
I know Kubiak has been hyping him up, but I bet he’s traded for a 5th or cut outright. D-Line? I don’t think so. OG or WR would be the way to go for me, but I don’t see Jeffery or Wright lasting to us at 26 and I wouldn’t love to move up in this draft.
Check out The Dream Shake.
by Patrick Harrel on Jan 15, 2012 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
I expect a full report if he does get cut
But I don’t anticipate it either
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 7:27 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'd be pissed
Seriously.
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eeeewaaaaa?
/farnsworth’d
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Stick him at S
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I have some material in the back of my head if I get an hour to write a post
NOT GOING TO LEAVE MY THUNDER HERE! HA!
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ooooh yeah, ok.
I’d be ok with that. Him as a safety or 3rd safety on certain packages would be decent.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
I think the Patriots would do that right about now
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:39 PM CST up reply actions
I just...
I just see a shit-ton of Glover Quin’s skills in Kareem. I do. I mean, shit, I still even see an average CB in his skills. Was he the wrong guy to pick? Probably. Should he be thrown into the scrap heap with Frenchy Reeves? No, not yet.
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But where would you put him?
Realistically, would you want him on the field over Demps or Nolan right now? At least those two can locate the ball in the air
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
But if Kareem already has his head turned...
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Then he'd still be a liability in over the top coverage if the guy got past him
He wouldn’t be able to turn his head back around fast enough to run with the WR. Also, he’d be abused by TEs constantly at safety
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM CST up reply actions
Ball hawking can be taught
he needs to practice. I think JJo is already teaching him how to be a good back. But I think its a slow process with Kareem. Let me use an analogy to demonstrate:
My wife likes ballroom dancing. So, to make her happy, I attend lessons to learn it. I had a lot of trouble because the instructor was trying to teach me too many different aspects of it at the same time. But when the instructor changed to teaching me one part till I got good, then systematically moving on to the next, it was much easier, though slower.
I think this is what they have to do with KJax. They have him covering good now, next they have to teach him to find the ball.
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by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
Nice analogy
I’m probably completely insane thinking KJax can still be salvaged, but I think he can.
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Ya..I also think having JJo has made him more self aware
or what he can and can’t do. He appears to be aware of what a good CB is supposed to look like and is trying to emulate.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
Then I'm right there in the looney bin with ya.
I saw some good play out of him Sunday. I started looking after completions and I actually saw more of Allen’s number than I did KJax. AND, I saw him get his head around a time or two.
Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid
He made big strides this year
he is still below average, but yeah, I still think he can get better. He has shown he can get himself into position, now he just has to learn how to finish.
Watch me all in flames, on a butterfly I ride
This
Or at least make him nickel guy. This whole “cut Kareem” thing is shortsighted. If he was anything other than a 1st rounder, we woulda cut him last year. As it stands, he was victimized by a VERY good WR who just isn’t fast enough to justify JoJo, and a freak catch from a dude who hasn’t been heard from all year. Evans would have caught that over JoJo too, it just happened to be KJax.
Bottom line is, KJax has shown progression over the past two years. He went from Charles Barkley turrible year one to serviceable with some errors year two. The trend, short as it may be, indicated that in year three he very well might make the leap. Drafting CB is an awful idea for next season, especially given that we have two talented CBs who sat out this whole season on the roster. Signing a free-agent when we are hard up on the cap is almost certainly not going to happen, and if it does it will be to fill out the back end of the CB roster.
Bottom line: spend the money on signing our dudes on the roster first, then draft WR2 1st round, Josh Chapman (or similar type) in the 2nd, and we’re talking about how much KJax learned in the offseason (the one he didn’t get with JoJo/Wade) and how it’s a crime he wasn’t taken to the Pro Bowl.
by Calvin Paquette on Jan 16, 2012 8:05 AM CST up reply actions
The Patroits would take him in a heartbeat
He’d still be an upgrade over what they got now, & Belichick could plug Kareem in at safety
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If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt it. He just had a significantly better year than 2010.
I keep hearing it takes CBs a few years to really take off. Look at Devin McCourty. He was so bad, they had to move him to Safety this year. He undeservingly made the probowl last year in 2010 after being on the 2nd worst pass defense in the league.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Scrabble didn't start at CB until his 3rd year. He was limited to special teams until then
Also, what’s going on with Harris? Same thing maybe?
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Possibly
That or he’s in Wade & Vance’s doghouse
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 16, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I can only sum up my feelings with a haiku...
Was an awesome ride
Jacoby screwed the pooch hard
Cant wait for next year
by TexInOrd on Jan 15, 2012 7:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Jacoby must go.
He’s had more chances than he deserves. Replacing him must be a priority in the off-season.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Patrick Edwards would be nice in the late rounds
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
I dont think he's projected to get drafted...
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Even better, he'll be cheaper
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:43 PM CST up reply actions
Not true. UDFAs usually make more than late-round picks.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
What about Greg Childs?
Granted, I’m a Razorback homer, but Childs has the size and catching ability we are looking for. He had a down year after knee surgery, but usually the second year after that surgery is the best. I think he could be snagged in the lower rounds and conceivably play WR2.
by Calvin Paquette on Jan 16, 2012 8:14 AM CST up reply actions
Wonder how Rex Ryan is feeling
Watching the real New York team going to the NFC Championship game, while his fat ass sits at home.
by TheDream34 on Jan 15, 2012 7:11 PM CST via mobile reply actions
He's eating defeet
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Please PLEASE draft Nick Toon or Dwight Jones
I’m so fucking done with Jacoby
Or sign Vincent Jackson
Long shot I know, but one can dream.
by TheDream34 on Jan 15, 2012 7:20 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I'll take Reggie Wayne
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Too expensive on both of those guys
Jones or Toon would be cheaper
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions
maybe he'll take a paycut?
Maybe he wants to hurt the Colts for leaving Manning?
Also, I thought he was retiring?
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Well I didnt get a Texans W for my bday but
my friend, who is sadly a Cowboys fan but I’m trying to convert her to the Texans, got me a Battle Red AJ jersey today very awesome!!
by Biggity B on Jan 15, 2012 7:22 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
If she were straight
she totally would be my girlfriend haha
Classy move...
..for a Cowboys fan. :D jk
Happy Birthday!
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Hey, Happy Birthday!
Mine is next Sunday. I was hoping to be watching the Conference Game with Texans playing.
Still, very happy about this season.
Super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.
Happy birthday, Biggity!
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
I think it was a hard fought game, and some plays bounced the ravens way
Read as “Fuck Jacoby. Fuck Jacoby. Fuck Jacoby. Fuck Jacoby. Fuck Jacoby.”
Every word I read says that
Hell, I picked up a fishing magazine and all I saw on the page was “fuck Jacoby” over and over.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 7:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
It's a new condition called "dystexia"
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 7:36 PM CST via Android app up reply actions 2 recs
Mocking the Draft says we are picking at 26
Consensus here seems to be 27. Which spot is it?
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
damn. thats a sucky spot
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
You do know they didn't lose their 1st round pick right?
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
I believe it's #27
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:39 PM CST up reply actions
Okay, now I see them at #26
I think that’s a good spot to take a WR
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 7:46 PM CST up reply actions
I propose a new rule
for post-game press conferences; if you lost, you cannot go to the Q&A wearing a goofy-ass hat (ex: Rapee McGee and Aaron Rodgers tonight). Foster is allowed to rock his fedora whenever he wants because he pulls the look off completely. These others guys? Notsomuch.
God is not on our side because he hates idiots also.
by Meta Sandoval on Jan 15, 2012 7:33 PM CST via mobile reply actions
report is he was injured (undisclosed)
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Just finished watching the highlights on nfl.com
Besides, Jackassedspeare’s nevermore drop, here’s what stood out to pain my heart a bit further about this loss.
1) Reed’s INT at the end was perfectly thrown to AJ for a TD. Kubes said TJ should have looked off Reed a bit to keep him in CF, and had he done that, we coulda had OT.
2) K-Dub should have caught the hail mary…. off his left arm.
Ah well… Sign Arian, sign Mario, sign LeStar Jean and do it all over again
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
Resign Allen, Cut Jackson, Cut Jacoby
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:24 PM CST up reply actions
I think cutting K-Jax would be an overreaction.
He’s really not as terrible as everyone makes him out to be. I mean, he’s not a shutdown corner, but who at the CB2 spot is?
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Johnathan Joseph was in Cincy
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:26 PM CST up reply actions
I thought Joseph played CB1 in Cincy?
At the least I thought he swapped off.
by Calvin Paquette on Jan 16, 2012 8:18 AM CST up reply actions
Leon Hall was the #1 CB
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 16, 2012 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
cut Jacoby?
clever Jacoby
guillotine Jacoby
CHAINSAW JACOBY!!!!
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
chainsaw that guy
then bury him
then roto-till the dirt for a few months
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Hail Mary was tipped
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
It hit Walter's arm before anyone else tipped it
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
I thought I saw it hit Reed's hand
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
Thats what I saw in game replay...before it hit KW's arm
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 9:45 PM CST up reply actions
either way
I’m sure K-Dub is going to have restless sleep because of it. He seems to me like he’s the type of guy to hold on to something like that.
really heart wrenching
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
2012
Mario stays and we pay whatever Foster wants. With a healthy squad we are a superbowl favorite. Our Defense is sick, we took the Ravens to the brink in Baltimore with our 3rd string 5th round rookie QB. Not a damn thing to be ashamed of. Foster was an animal today. If Schaub isn’t hurt; we win by 2 tds easily. Team looks solid for next year. With that said; losing always sucks, but these guys now know how shitty playoff defeat tastes.
by Ceaster909 on Jan 15, 2012 8:27 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Remind me again
How do we bring back both Foster and Mary O’?
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Cut Jacoby, offer Foster his pay over more years
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:29 PM CST up reply actions
Leinart will go too, thats several million
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:31 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
True, combine Leinart & Jacoby's pay & give that to Foster over more years, throw a big bonus on top of it
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
Him too
We can always bring back that rookie FB from Colorado State we had this preseason
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
Vickers didn't do a whole lot to make his case
I think we could get someone who isn’t a huge drop off
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
especially with a pair of you know....
fucking hands
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
can he return punts too?
we’re missing “fucking hands” over in that role as well
- and #12 jerseys available to anyone with:
“brains” and “fucking hands”
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
odd, the format machine decided to edit my post in an odd way
ok I’ll spell it out then….
NUMBER 47 and NUMBER 12
why does “#47” show up as “1.” ?
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
You offer Mario a contract fro 5.5 mil guaranteed for 3 years,
then you offer Foster a contract for 7.5 mil for 2 years, both with a large bonus
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
I'd say 3-4 years for both
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
thats fine, but if you offer 2 years, then you give them to walk if they don't get an increase in 2 years
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM CST up reply actions
in otherwords, shorter contracts favor the player.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:36 PM CST up reply actions
frontloaded
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
right
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:38 PM CST up reply actions
That may be
But often players want longer contracts
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions
yes...some want longer, but when you are dealing with promise money
you want to be able to walk if the other party doesn’t deliver.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
both of those amounts fit into what Mario got paid this past year (13 mil)
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
So why would he take it instead of going to a team that will pay him more?
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:35 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
same reason matt Shaub dropped his to 5.5 mil
and AJ dropped his to 7.5 mil.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
paycut "per year" is the working variable here
that is what affects the salary cap
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions
Yes
It means more up front and a smaller cap hit if I understand correctly.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:39 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Probably bonus money.
It’s prorated over the length of the contract.
this, or Bob took em aside and said I'll take care of you later...trust me.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:45 PM CST up reply actions
throughout the NFL
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions
nice! make $13M for 5 games and walking around on the sidelines in sweats
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
2 years!?
Any less than four is no bueno for a premiere back with a buncha tread on the tires
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 8:34 PM CST up reply actions
According to memory, the NFL salary cap rarely causes problems keeping talent.
So, I think this worry is unfounded.
this is correct
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
I'm counting on Rick Smith here
He’s always been good at keeping our players
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:43 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Any way the Texans
can manage to steal Daryl Morey from the Rockets?
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Why, are the Texans playing the Clippers next year?
I haven’t seen the schedule
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
3 times, 2 of them in a back-to-back.
I swear the people that do the scheduling are Titans fans.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
not to mention all the ways to manipulate the system that McNair and Smith know
that I don’t have a clue about. These NFL guys have been doing this a while.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 8:47 PM CST up reply actions
I don't think bonus money counts against the cap
signing bonus to Foster for $15M (for work done in 2010 and 2011 so to speak) and it’s Bob’s money, not the Texans.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
it does count against the cap
bonuses just let people get money sooner, but it will still count against the cap spread out over several years
by Jason Brown on Jan 16, 2012 12:10 AM CST up reply actions
bonus money counts against the cap
Although they physically get all the bonus in their pocket right away, the NFL for cap hit purposes, divides it evenly across the years of the contract.
The Houston Texans: The Ron Paul of the NFL.
Smithiak
Will make it happen. We pay Foster; Mario won’t command as much as you think. He’s been hurt the last two seasons, and both want to be Texans.
After thinking it over the past few hours
we’re in pretty good position. Our defense has been dominant, even without fine Miss O’Williams. Out of the players that started today, I can’t think of a single one that isn’t under contract for the Texans this year. With half of our offense coming back healthy, Cap’n Meco fully recovered from his (?)CL injury from last year, and a whole offseason in Wade’s system, I think we’ll be unstoppable. I fully expect our team to be in the Super Bowl next year, barring a catastrophic run of injuries like we had this year.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Ah, OK.
I kind of just assumed it was an ACL/MCL, given the nature of the injury. But nonetheless, point stands.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
I'm not so sure he WAS 100%
He looked to have lost a step this year, and they rotated him out at times. In fact, I think he was out during that goal line stand today. I was wondering what Tim Dobbins was doing in there when he made the stop.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:53 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
Sorry if I mis-phrased it,
I was saying that he will be 100% next year. Not that he was this year. But yeah, if he doesn’t look like his old self next year, he needs to go.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
Well he didn't start (but truthfully he should have been starting ahead of Kareem)
But this was Jason Allen’s contract year. Something tells me he’d be willing to come back on the cheap as long as he’s given a fair chance to earn the starting CB2 spot from Kareem
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:33 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe I'm just complaining to complain, but I thought it was a cheapass stunt to bring out Suh at halftime and then coddle up to him
The guy is a punk and I’ll be damned if he DID NOT own up to doing anything wrong or apologizing for doing anything wrong and the cheapass panel of analysts on CBS put those words into his mouth as if he said them. It was cheapass and I was questioning what the hell was going on with that right from the start. Cheapass!
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
by Rip Jersey on Jan 15, 2012 8:46 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
2nd best, behind JJ Watt
and I’m not a homer, that’s the truth
and I’m sick of these thugs in the NFL
Suh and Haynesworth should both be shown the federal prison system in the off season and told….“just one more fucking mistep and you bitches will be tossing salads in here…got it?!!”
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I think thats a huge over exaggeration
“Andre if you hit a guy whose been purposely getting in your head all day your going to jail thug” given very different circumstances but sounds ridiculous amirite? he plays with alot of emotion and lost his cool. He didn’t get accused for raping or stabbing on anyone.
Suh didn't fight anyone
He stomped a guy on the ground
That is chickenshit. That isn’t fighting – not even close
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 16, 2012 9:29 PM CST up reply actions
Soooo....you're saying it was cheapass?
Glad I didn’t watch it
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:49 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I'm saying it was cheapass
Yeah, he’s one talented, intimidating D-lineman. But it was cheapass.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Insincere, might be a nicer way to put it.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
I was ok with cheapass
Don’t get me wrong.
by JBal on Jan 15, 2012 8:55 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I agree with you rip.
I was sitting here thinking…. He didn’t apologize… He didn’t say anything. He gave a political answer, which means he didn’t answer the question. Can’t stand the guy, and I thought that panel had more class than to put up with a guy side stepping like that. They were working PR on him. Whatever.
by Texan5513 on Jan 15, 2012 8:54 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
It really just had no place during the halftime show
Besides being insincere, it just had no place being there.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Oh sure, the guy is just 20-something years old and maybe I shouldn't be so hard on him for his actions
But, damn, how mature do you have to be to admit to doing something wrong?
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
in my house 5 years old
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 15, 2012 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The Homeless Man's Aaron Rodgers
had 1 more playoff victory this season than the real Aaron Rodgers.
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
by Foster Child on Jan 15, 2012 9:05 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
I'll rec this
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Deion Sanders picked us to win the Super Bowl next year
Prime is a smart man :)
by TheDream34 on Jan 15, 2012 9:19 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I feel comfortable saying we'll get there
not necessarily win it, though.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
I knew there was a reason I liked him
Well, other than the fact everytime he shows an Arian Foster highlight, he throws in the obligatory “PAY THIS MAN!!!” quote
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:36 PM CST up reply actions
If the Texans expect Arian to play another season for his FA contract salary, then something is very wrong
I don’t see Bob McNair allowing that to happen.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=320115033
The Texans called designed running plays on 44 percent of their offensive snaps Sunday, well below their season average of 52 percent (Led NFL). Including the playoffs, Houston was 10-1 when running the ball more than 50 percent of the time this season; 1-6 in all other contests including Sunday’s loss to the Ravens.
Seems like we should’ve ran it even more – especially late when we still had a couple of timeouts. No need to throw it every down (especially deep passes) when Foster was playing like a man.
I was surprised Ben Tate didn’t even get a carry.
by goingforthecorner on Jan 15, 2012 9:32 PM CST reply actions
we got down because of Jacoby.
We had to do what we had to do. I don’t blame it on Kubes. I would have like to see him run of 4th and 2 then spike it near the end of the game. But I dont have a problem with the calling. Yates made really bad decisions today.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
Yep, Jacoby put us in the catch-up hole
that forced us to pass more
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 9:40 PM CST up reply actions
really hate the ketchup hole
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
ISWYD
/facepalm
I usually don’t leave those kinds of openings.
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 15, 2012 10:01 PM CST up reply actions
TWSS
Houston Texans fan, first and foremost.
College football teams: Army, Syracuse, Texas, Auburn.
by 5stringJeff on Jan 15, 2012 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
Passing out of the ketchup hole is totally disgusting!
A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving
by Foster Child on Jan 16, 2012 6:24 AM CST up reply actions
as opposed to passing out in the ketchup hole???
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 16, 2012 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
Such a stupid stat.
Teams run the ball when they’re ahead. This means almost nothing.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
by .Bonzo on Jan 16, 2012 12:21 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Disappointing loss because we really didn't even need Schaub to win
since our running game was actually working, all we needed was a game-managing QB that could protect the football, and Yates couldn’t do it. Flacco did nothing spectacular today – completely pedestrian performance. But he never turned the ball over and that was the difference in the game.
by goingforthecorner on Jan 15, 2012 9:34 PM CST reply actions
Ending the drunkin frustrating day...
We overachieved with the hand we were dealt, and pushed the Ravens to the brink with a 5th round rookie QB. Our D should be a monster in our second year with Wade. We have a lot to look forward to next season, but still the season’s end still sucks. We will be Superbowl favorites next year, and that is something to look forward to. Good job boys, and we will crush the Ravens and everyone else next season.
by Ceaster909 on Jan 15, 2012 9:35 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'ing the drunkin' frustration day-ender
Because fuck it, that’s why.
A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
http://www.battleredblog.com
"Blind fandom is all I got left." - LoneSpot
me too
coming off a hard evening of poker and scotch…
Now I have mixed emotions. I feel just horrible for Jacoby. The guy must feel like he is under 800 feet of saltwater right now knowing he choked that shit up so bad and set us up for the loss that we couldn’t resurrect with a rookie QB.
On the other hand, it’s been 5 long painful seasons of watching his dumb ass make mistakes that finally erase even the rosencopter (the worst mental mistake in Texans history, and just a smidge worse than sending in a play for a half back pass by Chris Johnson). I’m sorry, but 5 years of this is enough. Too brain dead to play in this league. Go play in Canada or Papua New Guinea or something.
So damn sad. We’ve really pulled for him to step up. He didn’t fill in for WR1 when needed, and despite being ranked #2 in returns in the AFC…most of the time he has fans screaming “RUN MOTHERFUCKER!!!” as he jukes left, right, backwards and then gets pummeled for a loss.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
Chris Brown*
For me it goes like this:
1) Jest 80 yards in 30 seconds with no timeouts
2) Rosencopter
3) Jacoby’d (would have been higher had it not been so early in the game)
4) The incredible comeback that never was (Ravens 2010)
5) Q-tip
6) HB pass
"Walter is a quality 2nd receiver. Jacoby is so bad that the two of them together is less than just Walter by himself." -Toolshed1
by RocketsAstros on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 AM CST up reply actions
How was Q-tip boneheaded?
I mean, sure, it’s mentally scarring, but GQ did what he was supposed to do.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
We need an entry in the glossary for this one
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 16, 2012 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
Great Season
Congratulations on a great season from a Cowboys fan. The Defense was really impressive and J.J. Watts is the real deal. Too bad Schaub was not available because he would have made a difference, Jacoby really cost the game and he should be dropped from the roster!
Thanks
Hopefully one day we can see a Battle of Texas Super Bowl
by TheDream34 on Jan 15, 2012 10:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nah, I'd settle for the Cowboys sucking for a long time
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 10:44 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
great season now on to draft talk lol
Lot of boards have us taking alshon Jeffrey. That would be great!!!!!
by TexansForLife on Jan 15, 2012 9:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
He won't fall that far
Chicago needs a WR. Jeffrey won’t fall past them
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 9:50 PM CST up reply actions
Jeffery is fat!!!!
http://www.razorbackattack.com/forum/index.php?topic=8161.0
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
by Drill Sarge on Jan 15, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions
I repeat, He won't fall that far
Chicago needs a WR TE. Jeffrey won’t fall past them
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
The Texans could use a
DT WR any other position TE
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 10:23 PM CST up reply actions
Never, ever cite anything from Razorback fans.
Just as a general rule.
I have not yet begun to defile myself.
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you're right, but there are plenty of pics of a fat Jeffery on the interwebs.
look at the si cover
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/cover/featured/11644/index.htm
"...you may all got hell, and I will go to Texas!"
-Davey Crockett
by Drill Sarge on Jan 15, 2012 11:03 PM CST up reply actions
From a Razorback fan
I fart in your general direction.
by Calvin Paquette on Jan 16, 2012 8:35 AM CST up reply actions
an appropriate razorback response
If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan
by professortex on Jan 16, 2012 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
One of the best D performance I've ever seen...
Long time reader, first time poster. Despite the offense’s struggles today, the D performance was unreal. I never imagined I ever see a Texan’s goal line stand, especially after last year, but today’s goal line stand as well as that third down stand in the 4th were nothing shock of inspiring. The D never gave up and stood its ground till the very end. I am definitely proud of these Texans this season.
by htown4life on Jan 15, 2012 10:36 PM CST reply actions 7 recs
Agreed
aaaaand rec
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 15, 2012 10:38 PM CST up reply actions
meachem and colston unrestricted fa
I don’t see saints letting colstin but meachem would be a great upgrade from jj
by TexansForLife on Jan 15, 2012 10:44 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Nah, Meachem is injury prone & we can get a better WR in the draft
Plus we can let Demps take over PR duties as well
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 15, 2012 10:46 PM CST up reply actions
Meachem hates contact.
But he might actually be great to fill into the Jacoby role. Just don’t expect him to run an extra 5-10 yards if it means he’s going to get hit.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
Interesting "analysis" from the ESPN comments section
Arian Foster Owns
As much as I bashed Kareem Jackson last year, I think he played well this year and improved alot.Don’t re-sign Mario Williams. Give Arian Foster approx 8.5 mill a year. Let’s sign/move up in the draft to get a good wide reciever and most important of all, cut Jacoby Jones.
I guess cutting Jacoby and paying Arian foster is good, but I don’t know why in the hell he would want to keep KJax and cut Mario
Official hype-man of the Flour Bluff Academic Decathlon team
What I do find interesting
Is after last game, people were praising Jacoby – for his selfless blocking.
After this week – they want to run him outta town….
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 15, 2012 10:48 PM CST reply actions
I can selflessly block
We wanted to run him outta town before he re-signed
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, too bad for Jacoby
Yesterday’s hero, today’s goat. That’s what happens when you give the other team 7 points.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
rec'd
for 2011 NFL draft Rounds 1/2 punch
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 10:51 PM CST up reply actions
rec'd
for 2011 NFL draft Rounds 1/2 punch
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
reply fail and Allen OU'd
Official hype-man of the Flour Bluff Academic Decathlon team
by thebluffrat on Jan 15, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
just had so much GOO
in my eyes
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Draft
We do not have many weaknesses right now. Our biggest weaknesses are Jackson and 2nd WR. Houston has a good chance to trade down to try to get them in the second round. Allen should start next year and have someone to take his place if he doesn’t perform. As for Yates, he did a good job not letting us sink and getting us into the playoffs. You can’t accept for him to carry this team into the super bowl. Well, with this defense and very good offense, it will be expected for them to reach the conference championship next year. Good year and a hell of a fight against a proven team. Go Texans. Get well Schaub because you have a difficult task next year.
Don't forget OG.
Brisiel can’t play a full season, Caldwell gets abused when he’s in there, and we still don’t know which Wade Smith (excellent 2010 or horrendous 2011) to expect.
I was pretty disappointed in the loss today
Sort of like Arian stomping around on the sidelines at the end of the game. That said, I’m so proud of how we handled the season after all of the injuries. TJ definitely looked like a rookie today, but given how well he had played prior to today it only figures to happen. I believe Jacoby is gone after his debacle on ST. Without that play, who knows what would have happened after forcing the Ravens to punt it back? I think Foster would have had closer to 200 yards rushing.
It’s unfortunate that we had to put TJ in the fire so early in the game. He didn’t make the best decisions, and unfortunately cost us points on the board, but he did his damnedest to keep us in the game. He tried to be too much of a hero today, but he came up against a pretty stout defense.
Speaking of defense, I think everyone agrees they did their part to keep us in the game all day long. The short fields weren’t their fault, and that fourth down goal line stand was a thing of beauty. I’m excited to see this defense next year now that our rookies have that experience!
On to the draft! WR and NT will take priority I believe. Post up some suggestions so I can take a look at some of the guys you suggest. I don’t really follow college football as closely as some of you other guys!
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
quoting someone at the barnacle
“If Jacoby Jones had missed the flight to Baltimore, or been suspended, the Texans would be heading to Fox bororo next week.”
That about sums it up correctly.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
I just waited 3 hours
For the Texans to get in their cars and drive away. I’m more pissed that I wasted my Sunday night then they lost to the Ravens.
by wdlp65 on Jan 15, 2012 11:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions
What the hell were you expecting?
These guys were pretty disappointed in what transpired. I wouldn’t want to hang around either.
REDRUM, Peyton Manning... REDRUM
Why do we fall down? So, we can learn to pick ourselves up.
by BRBUSAFTexan on Jan 15, 2012 11:53 PM CST up reply actions
I'm bummed they didn't at least come over to say hi to the fans who showed up
but that was a gut wrenching loss for them to swallow. They are ready to go blow some steam and shake off the funk.
Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!
food for thought
I think Dontari Poe DT 6"5 350 from Memphis or Kendall Wright WR 5"9 195 from Baylor are good for us where we pick
by TexansForLife on Jan 15, 2012 11:46 PM CST via mobile reply actions
if anyone would have said before the game that...
we shut down ray rice, flacco looked like shit. we sacked flacco 5 times. foster ran for over 100 yards, andre had over 100 yards recieving, the O-line kept TJ upright all day and kareem jackson actually played great man to man coverage for the first time ever and the ravens were held to 220 yards of total offense then anyone wouldve suggested that the texans won handily. but obviously that wasnt the case. turnovers are a fuckin killer man, this is heartbreaking.
i miss matt schaub..
Kareem Jackson did play good coverage, I'll admit.
He stayed with his man on most throws, he was just getting snagged on plain and simple. Needs to learn to turn his head, and he could get some picks.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
he played well..
more so by his standards. i remember 3 plays where he was all over his man but boldin made 2 GREAT catches and then the catch from lee evans. i dont remember him getting burned on any play, the TD catch to boldin jason allen was covering him
by TexansAddict on Jan 16, 2012 12:54 AM CST up reply actions
I'm starting to become convinced that Kareem Jackson is cursed.
Even when he has good position on his man, they make some unbelievable circus catch (Evans and Boldin both did it to him today).
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
thats exactly what i was thinking..
throughout the game when all of this was unfolding. very good coverage from kareem, no crucial penalties, didnt get burned deep. yet boldin and lee were still bringing in great crucuial catches against him. also the few times flacco decided to place a pass perfectly it was against kareem. i dont get it.
by TexansAddict on Jan 16, 2012 3:53 AM CST up reply actions
I agree we need a TRUE 2nd receiver
that can be addressed in the draft. FACT: with a healthy schaub, williams, dre, sharpton, foster, tate, manning, daniels, casey for an entire season, this IS A SB TEAM. injuries finally bit us in the ass. this team is deep enough to win a playoff game with a 5th round rookie qb. I don’t make changes to this squad except for the aforementioned 2nd WR. with a full training camp and ota’s this team will be alot healthier next season. not so many hammies ya know? this team is going places. calling it, over the next 3 yrs the texans will hoist the lombardi at least once.
by HTown80 on Jan 16, 2012 12:51 AM CST via Android app reply actions
no foster for 3, no tate for 2, no casey for 3, no manning for 4, no dre for 9, no briesel for 4, no mario for 13, no schaub for 8, no jojo for 2, and this was still the 2nd ranked d/17th ranked o. something to be proud of.
by HTown80 on Jan 16, 2012 12:56 AM CST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Random but
why is it that the rare times that Kareem has decent or good coverage the WR’s still make great catches against him. It’s like if just being near him makes them better
he doesn't turn his head
so he’s blindly waving a hand in the air or getting called for PI
by HTown80 on Jan 16, 2012 1:08 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Exactly
He is just running close to the receiver without actively trying to disrupt the pass. He had one good defensive play though.
"Walter is a quality 2nd receiver. Jacoby is so bad that the two of them together is less than just Walter by himself." -Toolshed1
by RocketsAstros on Jan 16, 2012 3:50 AM CST up reply actions
this is ATLEAST a 13-3 team next yr
maybe 14-2. or, dare I say, a 16-0 plus SB?
by HTown80 on Jan 16, 2012 1:10 AM CST via Android app reply actions
Next season's schedule is brutal.
Pats, Packers, Lions and Ravens.
Additionally, Chicago may be really good if they can stay healthy, and Miami and Buffalo seem on the way up as well. The Denver Tebows are an enigma, and who knows what the Jets will be. Then there’s Tennessee and a Colts team (likely) getting their all-galaxy QB back.
The best news I have is that what I see as the two most difficult games (Ravens and Packers) will be in Houston.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
No, the best news
Is we get to face Blaine Gabbert TWICE next year. Two easy wins there
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by AllenOU on Jan 16, 2012 1:31 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Honestly, I don't see next year's schedule as being much harder than this year's.
If anything, it might actually be a little easier. There’s no way the NFC North is better than the NFC South, and the AFC North is definitely better, from top to bottom, than the AFC East.
Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.
I suppose the overall strength of the schedule is comparable.
But considering that we’re still playing the class of the AFC North, I think next year’s schedule is more top-heavy. Saints vs. Packers and Falcons vs. Lions are both washes I think, but the Bears were playing very well this season before Cutler and Forte went down with injuries. If they can retain Forte, I fully expect three teams in that division to compete for playoff spots.
Pats vs. Ravens is too close to call as well. After that, it depends on your opinion of the rest of the AFC East. The Dolphins played well to close out the season, the Bills were red hot early on and I think the Jets are a complete unknown.
I’m also assuming the Colts will be better simply because they can’t really be any worse. The Jags and Titans I don’t really see moving up or down.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
pretty sure we'll be playing ravens in baltimore.
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
nm. its at home
I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest.
~Muhammad Ali
- Jacoby, + Schaub
We should be much better next year. Compared to the end of this year.
"Walter is a quality 2nd receiver. Jacoby is so bad that the two of them together is less than just Walter by himself." -Toolshed1
Gah!
No shame in going out at this stage. So did the Saints and Packers who were more probable than us to win the whole shebang. With that said it’s especially bitter to loose a game you should have won had not Jacoby Jones fucked us up royally. He must have been stoned with double vision bouncing the ball on his helmet like that. :(
With that said I believe our one and only priority in offseason is resigning Mario and getting another legitimate deep threat receiver. I think Cody has done ok and actually improved and at most positions we actually look loaded. Oh and Yates should be nr2 from now on.
Swede that like the Houston Texans and Chelsea FC
Oh and sign Foster...
He is turning out to be the real leader of this team. Anyone else notice how he fired the whole team up for the second quarter. Not sure how that’d work with Schaub in the huddle but anyways, he is aweseome and he is a real leader and the new face of this franchise.
Swede that like the Houston Texans and Chelsea FC
by Fredrik Nyman on Jan 16, 2012 4:46 AM CST up reply actions
FA WRs this year
In no particular order: vincent jackson, brandon lloyd, reggie wayne, laurent robinson, marquice colston, robert meechum, and desean jackson.
I think Vjax, wayne, and colston would be too expensive and want to be #1s. Djax probaly hurt his value with his antics but could be viewed as a cancer. I wouldn’t mind going after lloyd or robinson though.
by BricAM on Jan 16, 2012 10:35 AM CST via mobile reply actions
In short...
knucklehead, knucklehead, old, oft injured, meh, knucklehead…
desean wouldn't be bad
as long as you hold his hand before and after every play and tell him how wonderful he is
by HTown80 on Jan 16, 2012 12:23 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I fully endorse completely ignoring DeSean Jackson.
The guy is a diva, a headcase and a one-dimensional receiver. We already have one of those in Jacoby Jones, except Jones has actually shown a willingness and ability to block.
Jackson is a great deep threat and a terrifying punt returner, but to me that’s not worth the headaches and childishness.
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