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Thank You, Wade Phillips

Right now there is nothing to feel but a stinging twinge of bitterness and regret. The offseason has come all too soon, and yet, still later than we're used to seeing it.

The only real reason it hurts is because of Wade Phillips. Nobody on the national scene expected this team to make any noise in the playoffs without Matt Schaub, and while the individual brilliance of Arian Foster and Andre Johnson was on display, it was clear that T.J. Yates, by no fault of his own, was not fit to guide this team to the promised land at this point in his career.

Yet here was this beastly defense, dragging the Texans along in every game. Taking the Ravens all the way to third-and-goal after Jacoby Jones' completely inexplicable gaffe. Holding them to just one field goal -- one that was mainly because Matt Turk gave Baltimore a short field -- after the first quarter. Standing Ray Rice up on fourth-and-goal. Sacking Joe Flacco five times and bringing out "Bad Flacco" from the beginning. Forcing three fumbles. Keeping the Ravens' deep play-action game completely out of the box score despite having just one cornerback of any real worth.

You are why we can feel real pain again.

Star-divide

Thank you for drafting J.J. Watt and Brooks Reed. The howls from the crowd (including me) who didn't understand the Watt pick because we thought Mario Williams was playing inside were, in retrospect, idiotic. Reed did not play quite as well as his sack total reflected, but was much better than he had any business being in his rookie year. A pair of home runs -- and they did enough to make sure the loss of Mario Williams barely had an impact on the season.

Thank you, along with Rick Smith, for signing the pair of secondary upgrades this team has needed since 2005. Watching Johnathan Joseph play cornerback opened my eyes up to a level of skill and confidence in a defensive player who doesn't rush the passer that I have never had before. Danieal Manning was completely stellar and absolutely the right fit for this team. Combined with moving Glover Quin inside, I don't think there is any doubt that the two best safeties in Texans' history started for this year's team.

Thank you for getting the best out of every player that you had. I still don't think Shaun Cody is a very good nose tackle, but you took him farther than you had any right to. He was downright pedestrian this year, and that is the best that we could have hoped for once it became clear that Earl Mitchell belonged on the side of a milk carton.

Thank you for making sure that Kareem Jackson continued to split snaps. I know a couple of you will play the "so sick of Kareem Jackson hate" card, especially since he managed to string together two plays in a row where he didn't pee his pants this week, but in my opinion this (still) pretty bad version of him is the best he has in him. Wade properly spotted him and dealt with him the best that he could. He deserves credit for not letting him start every game and get torched.

Thank you for reminding Houston fans what it was like to have a defense they could rely on. There were some fun years under Dom Capers, but the number of times I said to myself "we can count on this defense" was very small, and probably begins and ends with the game where Aaron Glenn intercepted 638 Tommy Maddox passes. After four years of Frank Bush and Richard Smith, I was not even sure I could recognize real defense when it was played. You changed everything.

Thank you for making the entire endeavor of being a Texans fan not feel like a complete exercise in futility. There is definitely a lot of pain right now due to this loss, but it's nothing like that of being a fan of a team that seems to actively make you miserable on a week-to-week basis. Your defense and Gary's offense combined to create the first team in this franchise's history that is truly worthy of the fans it has.

Most of all, thank you for snubbing Tampa Bay and coming back to finish what you started. I am by no means the most optimistic person in the world, but it is hard to look at the wealth of talent and coaching that this team now has and not get giddy about next season. Let's leave this snakebitten year in the past, continue to attack our few weaknesses, and aim to make next season end two games later.

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Way to make me cry first thing in the morning, Rivers.

The defense was heroic yesterday. So tragic to see that effort spoiled by turnovers and the return of the real Matt Turk.

But yeah, I’m completely pumped about next season. Can’t wait for the draft, can’t wait for training camp, can’t wait to see our team tear up the league in 2012.

"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus

by FreedomRide on Jan 16, 2012 6:28 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed

Yes, we lost the game. I’m not sure why everyone is so bitter. The difference-maker was the lack of Schaub. If Schaub was here, I’m confident we’d be the #1 seed. Without him, it’s an up hill battle through the snow.

Jacoby is a slot machine. It’s either jackpot or nothing. It’s always been that way. But the Texans don’t need to depend on that sudden jackpot to win anymore. The team is good enough to win any game, if no mistakes are made.

Turk is just a fill-in.

by kozanack on Jan 16, 2012 7:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Almost right

if you are talking past tense, we lost the #1 seed before Schaub went down, since the Pats and the didn’t lose any games. But when the Ravens lost in SD, we coulda had the #2 seed.

If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan

by professortex on Jan 16, 2012 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Not at all.

We had the nr1 seed after the win against Cincy in a three way tie vs. Ravens and Patriots. If we’d have won out we’d have won against the Patriots in a two way tie since Ravens lost once more.

Swede that like the Houston Texans and Chelsea FC

by Fredrik Nyman on Jan 17, 2012 5:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Yep, you are right. I was thinking of something else.

If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan

by professortex on Jan 17, 2012 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Bigger Houston Fail

Jacoby Jones or Brad Lidge?

by TheDream34 on Jan 16, 2012 7:18 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Jones

Lidge had shown the ability to strike people out prior to Pujols and has been effective since. He just threw a flat slider. Jones has been doing dumb shit from day one, sprinkling in enough glimpses of mediocre talent to score 3 million dollars.

Hope he saved some of that money, I doubt he will see that in the UFL.

Damn you vile woman, you've impeded my work since the day I escaped your vile womb ...

by JMFC on Jan 16, 2012 7:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Plus, Houston still won that series.

by MadMartygan on Jan 16, 2012 12:05 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd for actually remembering history

That outcome was 97% Phil Garner.

Pujols was/is a tremendous hitter and always saw Lidge well. REGGIE SANDERS WAS ON DECK WITH FIRST BASE OPEN. He averaged nearly 1 K/G in his career. I was SCREAMING to IBB Pujols and pitch to Reggie Sanders!

GUESS WHO STRUCK OUT NEXT? Reggie Sanders. 0-6 career vs Lidge, 5Ks.

by The Arian Race on Jan 16, 2012 5:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I would add T-Mac to the pile

T-Mac and Lidge were really good at ONE point but ultimately were huge disappointments.

"Walter is a quality 2nd receiver. Jacoby is so bad that the two of them together is less than just Walter by himself." -Toolshed1

by RocketsAstros on Jan 16, 2012 7:44 AM CST up reply actions  

You had to bring up T-mac

now I’m crying, still have the shoes, posters, throwbacks…sniffle

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Jan 16, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

My favorite T-Mac relic is a photoshopped jpeg

of him posterizing Sean Bradley in the playoffs. Somebody shopped in a ten-gallon hat, chaps, boots and spurs. I laughed til I cried. Later on in his tenure, I just cried.

"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
Eat me, David Stern.

by Christopher H on Jan 16, 2012 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll at least give T-Mac credit of the fact that he acknowledges that what happened here in Houston was a golden opportunity that was squandered by injuries

Lidge couldn’t get that homerun Pujols hit off him in Game 4 out of his head. Then he gets traded to Philly of all places & throws a perfect season for a closer & wins a World Series

Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."

by The Night Owl on Jan 17, 2012 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Couldn't you make the case for Yao?

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I would not add Yao to the list. Injuries were not his fault. Jones and Lidge's fail resulted from mistakes made.

McGrady was just unprofessional throughout. Yao was bad luck. I’m not defending him b/c I’m Chinese, but I don’t believe our disappointments of him are his fault.

by jkcheng122 on Jan 16, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

After thinking about it after the store run, I was think Yao too.

We never could get the right team setup properly with the right guys, until he matured. Then when it look like we got the right teamates, he became injury prone.

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 4:20 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh & I don't blame Yao, because it really looked like he really did give a good effort in trying, but things just happen that way.

But it left a bad taste in my mouth to watch any more rocket games. It’s almost gotten to the point to have to start from scratch too, try some different kind of combo, why that trade would have done, unsure if it would have succeeded. I know this is football forum.

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

If Jacoby is still on this team next year

It is very possible that I go on a killing spree. Please Kubiak, only you and Smith can prevent this.

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Jan 16, 2012 7:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I would only accept him being on this roster next year if

he takes the necessary paycut that allows us to retain Mario and re-sign Foster to a real NFL contract. The two biggest contracts we need to free money from for Mario and Foster are through Jacoby and Leinart imo.

by jkcheng122 on Jan 16, 2012 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

Lidge was probably the biggest reason we were in the playoffs at all that year.

Jacoby… Not so much. Not a horrible year returning punts by any measure, but still a relative non-factor in what should have been a break-out year on both offense and special teams.

by Nashmeister on Jan 16, 2012 9:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Apples to Oranges.

Lidge was utterly dominant in 2004 and 2005. Jones has never progressed and has only given us frustrating glimpses of his potential.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Jan 16, 2012 11:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

"Thank You, Wade Phillips" sounds like goodbye

"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster

by Rip Jersey on Jan 16, 2012 7:19 AM CST reply actions  

and ... lulz

"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg

"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell

I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right

by Barryfromtexas on Jan 16, 2012 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

schadenfrude with a zing!

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert

by chuckiepoo on Jan 16, 2012 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks To All BRB writers

Please keep up the good work of contributing Texan information nuggets during this offseason…..being 10000 miles away you are my main source for all things Texans…and even if I was home u would still my first choice…cheers

by Hangbok on Jan 16, 2012 7:38 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

I completely agree with this
The howls from the crowd (including me) who didn’t understand the Watt pick because we thought Mario Williams was playing inside were, in retrospect, idiotic

I was also one of this group, and holy shit was I wrong. I am not really upset this morning. Disappointed? Yes, but not upset. I am extremely proud of our boys and the effort they gave both yesterday and for the whole season. I am PROUD to be a Texan fan, and am already excited about next year.

P.S. Cut Jacoby

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Jan 16, 2012 7:54 AM CST reply actions  

Next year,

We will field a top 3 Defense (if not #1), We will bring back Foster and Tate to put up a top 3 run game (if not #1) We will address some WR problems ASAP and bring back Schaub and have a top 10 Passing attack (only ranked so low because we are going to run the ball all over people). All that to say, how good does it feel to finish our season with a playoff win and KNOW that our team is going to be even better next season and will immediatly be SB contenders. Great time to be a Texans Fan!!!

by Texan5513 on Jan 16, 2012 8:00 AM CST reply actions  

can't blame yates

against the ravens secondary, you pound the rock 30x a game to win. you don’t pass. the offensive cord that calls 35 passing plays against the ravens secondary, didn’t do his job.

"the bengals are not a west of the 104 longitude team."

by palewook on Jan 16, 2012 8:02 AM CST reply actions  

Except after Jacoby's blunder

we got down early and were forced to play their game. We were basically forced to pass, and that’s why we lost. We do the same thing to teams all the time.

Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.

by T-Moar on Jan 16, 2012 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

i remember watching a game earlier this year.

they were showing fans in reliant stadium and they had the camera on a guy wearing a jacoby jones shirt. i thought to myself… who would wear that? i mean… you have all these other stars….
anyway, i thought it was funny and i was judging the poor guy.

oh if i could change my screen name it would be more of a "texasbob" type thing.

by Danpassurweenie on Jan 16, 2012 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Yes

People have no perspective. You can’t blame everything on him. How many ints did Baltimore drop? Three? None of that was on Jacoby. Jacoby did also recover a fumble later in the game. It doesn’t make up for the muffed punt. But everything he did wasn’t bad.

I agree that he has played out his time here. The team doesn’t need a sometimes big-play guy who makes a lot mistakes. It’s time to cut bait and move on.

That said, i wish JJ the best of luck wherever he lands.

by kozanack on Jan 16, 2012 8:21 AM CST up reply actions  

After a night of sleep & sober up...

When Owen Daniels got injured last year, who did we goto for #2 to catch Jacoby Jones. Then when Andre had that minor injury who had to step Jacoby Jones. What was the difference between this year & last the injured Matt Schaub. Seems Schaub was able to find Jacoby more often open then TJ Yates this year. As for the KR/PR probably will need to find another. Jacoby still has a one year contract that still has to be paid correct?

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

i agree.

that’s pretty low and hard to believe.

oh if i could change my screen name it would be more of a "texasbob" type thing.

by Danpassurweenie on Jan 16, 2012 11:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I never want to see JJ in a Texans jersey again

But that is over the top, ridiculous, and pathetic. Anyone making death threats should be locked in a room for 5 minutes with Cushing, Antonio and Watt.

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Jan 16, 2012 9:50 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Anyone making death threats should be locked in a room for 5 minutes with Cushing, Antonio and Watt.

Harris County lock-up is probably pretty close to that.

by willieboyd on Jan 16, 2012 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

it is, oh it is...

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Jan 16, 2012 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

nope they repeat atleast a couple times before you enter the cells

If we catch any arguments or fights your both going to get a beat down by 5 of us. They repeat extra much to the purple bands to their face. Last but not least a fight happen sure enough the above happen.

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

this was a good year.

that was a tough loss yesterday. i can’t help but feel we have the beginning of something special in houston. if guys can stay healthy and we get more good young players to fill in gaps, we should be a really powerful team in the future.

oh if i could change my screen name it would be more of a "texasbob" type thing.

by Danpassurweenie on Jan 16, 2012 8:18 AM CST reply actions  

The picture is out of date.

This is why we need captions, to distract us from things like this.

Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.

by T-Moar on Jan 16, 2012 8:35 AM CST reply actions  

Excited for the Draft and off season

This team is going to be so damn good next season…. And we are going to be playing a lot of good teams next season with some Prime time action thrown in… Cant wait!!! Who will we draft?

by Texan5513 on Jan 16, 2012 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

awesome season

i feel so good about this team. the grit that we exhibited, our never roll over and die attitude. hope we retain all of our budding super stars next year. there is glaring need for a #2 WR. i’ll save draft talk for later though as i’d like to just thank all of the FO for their hard work. Their vision has finally came to fruition, and they have the city of Houston buzzing of what’s to come. i feel like a proud parent at a their kids highschool graduation. Our Texans have graduated from the choke team that always fell short to the gritty, resiliant team that is the Houston Texans. Here’s to a dynasty for many many years…

by the Yate Debate on Jan 16, 2012 8:38 AM CST reply actions  

Wade Phillips...

Really made a big impact. Out of that little “tip passes in practice” nugget, I really see his entire benefit….this is why the team looked so much more prepared because they were pushing each other. Thanks for that, Wade…..now find a better NT and CB2 (or coach the hell out of Kareem Jackson with an entire offseason).

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jan 16, 2012 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

This CB2 request confuses me

I know we are all sick of the level of uncertainty at the CB2 position, but where will the replacement come from? Do we really want to draft ANOTHER CB in an early enough round where we expect a contribution? Can we expect to have the money to sign ANOTHER FA in the secondary when we have plenty of important players to extend and pay big bucks? I am not disagreeing that Kareem is less than spectacular but you cant have pro bowlers at every position on the defense, and I think if we are gonna put a ton of time into a CB to be our CB2 of the future we should put just as much thought into Jason Allen as KJax. At least he has shown the big play ability far more than Jackson.

Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!

by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 16, 2012 9:14 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

K Jax & Allen> J.Jones & Walter

K Jax showed improvement yesterday. Baltimore receivers just made sick catches. J. Allen has impressed me this year. I don’t mind them sharing duties. We need a star receiver opposite AJ. We can’t afford for our offense to rely on just one receiver. It’s time we draft a receiver #1 to compliment AJ and eventually be the #1 guy. i don’t follow college football to know how the draft class is. anyone have any ideas?

by the Yate Debate on Jan 16, 2012 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I mentioned on the WR fanpost

I think Kubes will have full control to grab the players HE wants early and often as the defensive side of the ball is crowded. I REALLY like Kendall Wright from Baylor. He would take over the returning duties from Jacoby and I would love to see what Kubes could do with him in the offense. He is a Darren Sproles type player with crazy speed.

Then I wouldnt mind, nor be surprised if we traded up into the early second to grab whatever WR was left out of Dwight Jones/Nick Toon/Mohammed Sanu to train under Andre as a possible future WR1

Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!

by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 16, 2012 9:33 AM CST up reply actions  

speaking of Sanu

i found this little nugget. we all know how big walter is as part of the run game, so to see this little snippet on Sanu made me turn my head a bit.

Blocking: Takes his role as a blocker seriously. Shows good strength and very good effort blocking downfield, locking up the corner and working to seal his opponent from the action. Often sent in motion so he can provide a crack back block on an unsuspecting defensive end and looks to peel back and knock out the trailing defender when a teammate has a chance for a big play.

i read some more stuff on him, and he sounds much like a texans receiver. but its the run blocking that gets my attention. sounds like a selfless player.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941

by grandmasteroz on Jan 16, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The most complete team in football?

We're not even the most complete team in the AFC South!

Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.

by T-Moar on Jan 16, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions  

So

Who in the AFC South is the more complete team?

by kozanack on Jan 16, 2012 10:25 AM CST up reply actions  

Obviously the Titans. No way we can keep up with that powerhouse.

Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.

by T-Moar on Jan 16, 2012 10:43 AM CST up reply actions  

This season would not have been possible without Wade.

Good write up as always Rivers, thank you!

Thank you Wade!!

Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!

by MeMongo on Jan 16, 2012 9:38 AM CST reply actions  

So true.

Any chance Wade keeps looking for an HC job in the offseason? God, I hope not.

"I don’t like to really get in the quarterback’s head because I know he has a thousand other things to think about when he’s out on the field, but T.J. knows where I’m at."—Wide receiver Andre Johnson, on whether or not he lobbies for the ball in the huddle.

by HTown24 on Jan 16, 2012 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Well stated Rivers.

This was an awesome year and we owe so much of it to Wade Phillips.

by WhiskeyR on Jan 16, 2012 10:25 AM CST reply actions  

OT, but I was figuring we're all done with the post game thread now

Yesterday in London at the bar, a Texans fan came up to me after the game to talk with me, cz I was wearing my Dre jersey. I was quite excited to have found a like-minded person, until he told me how we should re-sign Schaub and Foster this year, franchise (yes, FRANCHISE) TJ and then trade him for a first and second round pick.
I tried to explain how this would be stupid, as we’ll need the franchise tag for a free agent, and TJ is under his rookie contact for the next 3 years regardless, before you even consider keeping him as #2 next year is probably prudent, but he was quite convinced.
I kinda gave up talking with him after that, I hope the next Texans fan I find is not quite so oblivious to how the game works haha…. and also fuck Jacoby.

by EnglishTexan on Jan 16, 2012 10:51 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I honestly don't know

I couldn’t get my head around his logic at all.

by EnglishTexan on Jan 16, 2012 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

There was no logic involved.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 16, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

The excitement for next season is already building.

I’m reading on Twitter how Jonathan Joseph is saying that the majority of our defense will be staying in Houston to train together.

by sebastian_8_8 on Jan 16, 2012 11:00 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Leader.

We got that.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jan 16, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh, fuck yes.

Super Bowl or bust next year.

Houston Texans: 1 Playoff Win.
Vince Young, Dunta Robinson, and Jason Babin: 0 Combined Playoff Wins.

by T-Moar on Jan 16, 2012 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Awesome.

Joseph was without question the best signing of the offseason. Nnamdi who?

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Jan 16, 2012 11:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Staying in Houston over the summer?

God Bless them, every one!

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Jan 16, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Similarly, Kubiak mentioned today that he met wtih Dre and Meco together. They discussed the offseason and expectations for next year.

I’m pumped. You know those two are going to be pushing folks during the offseason to focus on where this team is and taking the next step.

A whole offseason with Wade and the coaching staff to fine tune this D? Oh shit. Fools ain’t gonna know what hits them next year. Sept cannot come soon enough.

by USMC_JA on Jan 16, 2012 3:40 PM CST up reply actions  

laying the foundation to possible rework contracts...

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert

by chuckiepoo on Jan 16, 2012 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

In the Monday presser, Mario said he wants to stay

If everybody was somebody, then nobody would be anybody - Gilbert and Sullivan

by professortex on Jan 16, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Optimism.

Despite yesterday’s loss, I feel like the season ended on a high note. Our team showed up to play yesterday, and turned an early blowout into a game that wasn’t decided until the closing minutes.

I can’t wait for free agency and the draft. This team only has a few weaknesses, and I’m confident the front office will address them. This team will be fearsome next season.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Jan 16, 2012 11:06 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Not to sound like one of "those fans"

But the Texans were the overall better team yesterday IMO. Football 101, it is damn near impossible to win on the road losing the turnover battle by more than 2, and we lost it by 4. I agree about the optimism completely.

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Jan 16, 2012 11:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed. I hope folks realize we saw a legitimate championship D on display yesterday.

No fanboyism necessary. We owned both lines of scrimmage and actually dominated the trenches against a very good Ravens team. But even that is not enough to overcome 4 turnovers…esp when 2 of them are point blank scoring opportunities for the Ravens.

But the Ravens made the most of their opportunities and won the game. Must tip our hat to them. They won. We did not. And so, we look to next year.

by USMC_JA on Jan 16, 2012 3:45 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know if we've gained respect of casual football fans (and who cares).

But based on yesterday’s post-game comments from the Ravens, I think we have the respect of the league. Which will hopefully translate into respect from the officials, etc.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 16, 2012 6:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking this very same thing right after the game.
We owned both lines of scrimmage and actually dominated the trenches against a very good Ravens team.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Jan 16, 2012 7:26 PM CST up reply actions  

No expectations.

That’s what I had coming into this season. With Wade and his new defensive scheme being implemented and the shortened offseason, I had expected this to be a rebuilding season. My thoughts were blown out of the water with how quickly our defense took to the new scheme. I was more excited when the defense took the field. Injury after injury wrecked our lineup but they never even flinched. This is a superbowl team gentlemen. With a healthy Schaub, Johnson, Foster, Williams(if we keep him), this team is made for a superbowl. It will happen, put your name on it.

by BattleRedPriest on Jan 16, 2012 11:17 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

I think this is the first time we've finished a season, and I've been happy and excited for the next

Usually I just wallow in misery not knowing what the next season will bring, but a full offseason for the D under Wade with as strong and deep as we are and with Mario coming back has me pumped. Add in a full offseason to get ‘Dre and a lot of our other IR’d players back to full strength with the Schaub, and it’s hard not to see how we won’t be SB contenders in 2012. We will easily have the youngest, deepest, most physical offense and defense in the league. Cheers Wade! Thanks for giving us hope

"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell

by TheLastDynasty on Jan 16, 2012 11:56 AM CST reply actions  

Thank you Wade Phillips...

for making the defense the reason we DONT lose close games in heartbreaking fashion.

CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES
CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES
CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES
CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES
CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES CUT JACOBY JONES

by Carter Liles on Jan 16, 2012 11:57 AM CST reply actions  

Tough loss but a great season

Drafting JJ Watt, signing Wade and a few key free agents made this a great defense

Yates did his best – Ravens on the road in post season is a matchup that few QB’s fare well at

Foster and Andre played great, and the ream hung in there despite trailing and the turnovers

Next year with Schaub and Mario back the Texans should be a force to contend with

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Jan 16, 2012 12:08 PM CST reply actions  

It was a hell of a run.

I completely thought we were going to pull it out until that last pick. There was just something about this team. I’m sure the city of Houston is very proud to call this our team, and I can’t wait until the next game. Good year, boys.

by MadMartygan on Jan 16, 2012 12:13 PM CST reply actions  

Kubiak presser live right now

Week 19 Texans > Week 6 Texans….and I can’t wait to see the look on some Ravens faces when that reality hits home!

by MeMongo on Jan 16, 2012 12:14 PM CST reply actions  

color me stupid

but I’m just not expecting to see mario in a texans jersey next year. i love seeing him go beast mode, and i think he has a ton of potential in this defense. however, franchising him and trading him for draft picks/players (hopefully before the draft) seems like the logical business move. hes going to command a huge contract that we wont be able to pay. i would much rather pay foster than mario. mario is awesome, but brooks reed filled in for him just fine. although tate had some good games, the drop off, especially in vision and cutback speed, was much more pronounced between him and foster. mario is… expendable? i dont like that word, but i just cant see mario on the team next year without taking a huge paycut. something i dont think he will go for.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941

by grandmasteroz on Jan 16, 2012 1:05 PM CST reply actions  

This was discussed extensively in the last article.

See wikipedia Franchise tag, with incentives upon performance & health.

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

which one? theres so many around here i wont find it lol

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941

by grandmasteroz on Jan 16, 2012 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

http://www.battleredblog.com/2012/1/15/2709511/post-game-open-thread-ravens-20-texans-13

Search with your browser find command for Mario Williams. There a post with probably 20 comments about this subject. Basically using the franchise tag allows us to sign him under a 1 year contract as a free agent. Its best to read en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchise_tag it gives a good explanation of our options.

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

thank you sir

much appreciated.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941

by grandmasteroz on Jan 16, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I understand the interest that's why I researched it too.

I’d really like our team to keep Mario, it add’s so much hands that can get ahold of opposing QB’s. But it boils down also how we have available under the cap to work with. Because we Aaron Foster is a free agent next year too.

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm on the fence with Kareem.

Of course we can do better. But it seems apparent to me that management is determined to not feel like they wasted a first round draft pick give him more time to develop. Yes, he did show a little improvement this year. Yes, he does tackle well for a corner. He even made a few plays yesterday. But he also failed to turn his head againon a couple of other plays where he was actually close to Bolden but failed to prevent the catch because he once again failed to detect the ball was coming. Next year should be make or break with him, and I will be ready to see Brandon Harris get a shot. Get me a wide receiver in the first round of the draft, then some more secondary depth.

/already counting the days until camp starts

"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
Eat me, David Stern.

by Christopher H on Jan 16, 2012 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

proofreading fail

again on

"The best thing about being a cynic......is that you are never surprised." ~Anonymous
"Don't get yourself a bunch of tricky plays.......get yourself a bunch of tricky players." `Paul "Bear" Bryant
Eat me, David Stern.

by Christopher H on Jan 16, 2012 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I really liked what I saw from Kareem against the Ravens Sunday.

I think he showed great improvement this season. He hasn’t yet figured out on turning his head to make a play on the ball and not commit PIs, but this year he was always close to the ball. Last year we can’t even yell at him to turn around b/c he’s already 4 steps behind his cover when the ball is launched.

He is showing progress and it should be pretty clear the starting job is not locked and may be a 3-way battle with him, Harris, and Allen all fighting for the spot. It’ll be a step up or get out situation so we should see even more improvements.

Anyone else notice some of the comments from national media? I read Mike Greenberg from ESPN said he believes Texans would have won the SB this year had Schaub been healthy. Many other “experts” are now saying we will be a force to be reckoned with alongside the current powerhouses.

Prior to this season, how many of us can say we can’t wait to play Baltimore and New England in the regular season? How many of us would chalk up games against Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and New England as losses when making season record predictions? One thing we can say for next season, making the prediction for our record is going to be much harder since there is no reason we can’t finish 16-0 minus catastrophic injuries.

by jkcheng122 on Jan 16, 2012 2:49 PM CST up reply actions  

This statement stings so much
Texans would have won the SB this year had Schaub been healthy.

Damn you football gods!!!

"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce

by Mumford on Jan 16, 2012 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

correction

damn you Albert Haynesworth!

by nirvash on Jan 16, 2012 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Fat Al and the Evil Hoodie...

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert

by chuckiepoo on Jan 16, 2012 7:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I think Kareem is simply everybody's favorite whipping boy.

You simply cannot have allstars/probowlers at every position when you have a salary cap. Even with him, we had the #2 defense in the league this year. It is equally undeniable that Kareem was an improved player with no offseason tutelage under the new defensive coaching regime. I understand the angst over him being a 1st round draft choice, but he is what he is. A young player who suffered through terrible coaching and a terrible first year who showed demonstrable improvement his second year after limited instruction under a better coaching staff. That should give us all some degree of hope that we might see an even better player next year. I am certainly not saying that is a lock, but if you are fair, and honest, you will at least leave room for that possibility.

I doubt Kareem ever turns into a true shutdown corner (his lack of deep speed will probably forever prevent this) but he does have some skills. He is already serviceable. I bet he can continue to improve under this coaching staff. If he does so, he will only be that much better. Unless and until he is beaten out by another player on this roster, I say we spend our money and attention elsewhere (WR #2/3, C/OG, Mario, Foster, etc). I have complete faith in this defensive coaching staff. Until they stop running him out there, I will have faith they see a productive player who is doing what he is supposed to be doing. Doesn’t mean I won’t bitch when he gives up a play, but it does mean I will keep my perspective.

by USMC_JA on Jan 16, 2012 3:56 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Well said.

Said everything I was thinking.

Just my $.02
Even duct tape can't fix stupid

by txknight on Jan 16, 2012 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't know where to ask this sbnation specific question?

Is there a way to make the PST time be CST instead, or can it not be done?

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 4:13 PM CST reply actions  

Go to your profile page and edit the account settings,

about halfway down the page. You can change the time zone to Central

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert

by chuckiepoo on Jan 16, 2012 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

i dont think kareem is the worst of the bunch

but, i dont think hes a starter either. i think he would be better suited as a nickel back. not sure what happened with brandon harris this year, but id like to see more of him. i still think we should draft a CB in the mid rounds to see what we can get though. never hurts to have too many CBs.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941

by grandmasteroz on Jan 16, 2012 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

Could the Texas Legislature pass a law forbidding Wade from coaching any other team?

If not, maybe someone could blackmail Wade into staying like Kareem blackmailed Kubiak into letting him play.

On a side note, if you’re burning shit in a player’s yard you need to get some fucking therapy. I know sports are important, but not THAT important. Jacoby fucked up, but he’s still a human being.

A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving

by Foster Child on Jan 16, 2012 4:20 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Also its obvious he just wanted over achieve bec of the playoffs, that he just made humanly bad decisions.

Also not to take the blame from Jacoby, but when it occurred the first time the Special Teams coach should take some of the blame, we don’t get much sideline footage much anymore do to commercials. Ultimately it would fall on Kubiac’s shoulder to coach the two afterwards.

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 5:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Joe Marciano definitely deserves some of the blame.

He either needed to coach Jacoby up or find someone else to return punts. It’s really up to Marciano whether Jones is out there or not.

A sharp tongue is the only edged tool that grows keener with constant use.--Washington Irving

by Foster Child on Jan 16, 2012 5:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't leave us Wade

We love you. The entire city of Houston wants you to stay with us.

This is home.

by SuperSerial on Jan 16, 2012 5:47 PM CST reply actions  

My be a little off topic but thought it was cool off his wikipedia page.

His daughter, dancer/choreographer Tracy Phillips, appeared as Helena in My Chemical Romance’s music video for the song “Helena”.

by wizteknet on Jan 16, 2012 5:54 PM CST up reply actions  

That video is awesome. One of my all time favorites.

The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.

by Stupendous Man on Jan 16, 2012 7:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Answer this equation

Gary Kubiak’s offensive mind + Wade Phillips defensive mind + a healthy houston texan team with all of the starters returning for the 2012-2013 season(including schaub and mario) =

by krojr94 on Jan 16, 2012 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

Number one seed in Playoffs and....and...a berth?

'Without change something sleeps inside us, and seldom awakens. The sleeper must awaken.' -Frank Herbert

by chuckiepoo on Jan 16, 2012 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

A Super Bowl

There I said it.

Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.

by Antho10000 on Jan 16, 2012 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Nicely put Rivers

Thank you Wade indeed!

"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg

"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell

I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right

by Barryfromtexas on Jan 16, 2012 10:32 PM CST reply actions  

Has anyone

Ever been so loved in one part of a state and so hated in another part of the same state?

by BricAM on Jan 17, 2012 9:32 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Rec'd

and yes, I did read the whole thing.

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.

Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.

-Catch 22-

by Jordann on Jan 17, 2012 4:37 PM CST reply actions  

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