Why no Texans fan should want the Giants in the Super Bowl

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 18, 2012 7:56 PM CST

Of the remaining teams in the playoffs, there is none that I particularly like. Yet there is one that no Texans fan should want to win their conference championship game. This team is the New York Giants. Why? You don't even have to jump, as this will be a fairly short post and the jump is unnecessary. The simple fact is that the Giants have someone on their team who has caused Texans fans much grief and heartache. That person is perennial bench-warmer since being cut by the Texans, quarterback David Carr. Do any of you seriously want Carr in a Super Bowl before the Texans, to say nothing of his possibly getting a ring?

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by MeMongo on Jan 18, 2012 8:03 PM CST reply actions

In fairness, I don't blame Carr that much.

It all started when Tony Boselli failed to suit up and protect Carr’s blind side in year one. 17,000 sacks later and the kid was ruined. He played with a ton of heart, but was brain dead and shell shocked. Damaged goods.

by MeMongo on Jan 18, 2012 8:11 PM CST up reply actions

I had the same thoughts until I learned of his lack of work ethic.

I can take the being dealt a bad hand bit (no o-line to speak of, no running game).

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 18, 2012 8:15 PM CST up reply actions

I'm not doubting you

but do you have a link? i’d like to read it

by BC5 on Jan 18, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions

I didn't learn of it before coming here. It came from comments made by other players.

Hopefully someone else here more familiar with it will chime in.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions

Here's a snippet from a post last year by bfd

Draft Busts

Worst of all, Carr’s work ethic was questioned from the outset. Over the years, I heard constant rumbling from definitely knowledgeable sources on Carr’s lack of football interest, especially in learning the playbook.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 18, 2012 8:28 PM CST up reply actions

That bfd

What a handsome, virile stud he is.

@Freedom below: True. I have to censor myself here quite a bit, but you’re dead on. Carr had other interests than football during those years.

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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 18, 2012 11:33 PM CST up reply actions

You have to censor yourself?

SOPA hasn’t passed yet silly.
/sad sigh

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by Jon Banks on Jan 19, 2012 12:13 AM CST up reply actions

Carr was a proselytizing pain in the ass,

according to his teammates of the time. That’s not what you want in a franchise QB.

It will be a supremely grotesque irony if he gets a ring this year.

"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus

by FreedomRide on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions

Yes I do

I wish nothing ill of the man. He didn’t demand to be drafted by the texans. He came into a bad situation. Also without his losing. we’d have no Williams or Andre (to name a few). He was a bust but meh they happen.

That being said Niners all the way. Alex Smith SB champ!!! Make it happen Willis!!

by BC5 on Jan 18, 2012 8:10 PM CST reply actions

I absolutely don't care for any of the remaining teams.

The Saints are my NFC team. But I’m pulling for the Niner’s this weekend, simpy because the alternative is New York, who I wouldn’t want to win regardless. I am ambivalent to both teams in the AFC. I can’t even dislike the Ravens for beating us, since we beat ourselves.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 18, 2012 8:39 PM CST up reply actions

Niners are my second favorite team

by BC5 on Jan 19, 2012 6:32 AM CST up reply actions

Bad situation?

He was the bad situation.

He sucked

by kozanack on Jan 20, 2012 10:12 PM CST up reply actions

'Zackly.

"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus

by FreedomRide on Jan 20, 2012 10:50 PM CST up reply actions

Part of the delay in putting this up was to make sure Carr had never been there.

I came across this old post from LZ: David Carr’s Super Bowl

That’s right. It’s David Carr taking the Giants down the field for the winning TD in a simulation of last year’s Super Bowl win against the Pats. First Favre on the cover and now this?

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 18, 2012 8:17 PM CST reply actions

And just to make it clear, Carr was not on the Giants for their last Super Bowl.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 18, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions

Articles like this make me wanna gag.

"Lord, beer me strength."

by TexansDC on Jan 18, 2012 10:11 PM CST reply actions

Oh, David.

"I’m a little shorter," he said, "and a little better looking."

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 18, 2012 10:14 PM CST up reply actions

Most telling statement

hasn’t thrown a pass all season

Even if the Giants win, it won’t be due to any contribution from Carr. He can have a ring. It’ll mean exactly as much as Jared Lorenzen’s. “Who?” Exactly.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Jan 20, 2012 4:05 PM CST up reply actions

This one is awesome

"You think, how many plays can there be?"

Well Dave, if you would read all the pages in your playbook you’d know exactly how many.

I'm a man!! I'm forty!!

by Hydroshock on Jan 20, 2012 4:08 PM CST up reply actions

"It would have to be the right situation," he said. "I’ve been in bad situations before – and I don’t want to go through that again."

lol

Won’t someone please hand this man a starting job on a playoff-ready team?

"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus

by FreedomRide on Jan 20, 2012 4:54 PM CST up reply actions

So now David Carr has a Jersey Shore Nickname....

“The Bad Situation”

Because if he is referring to the bad situation in Houston, it was HIM!

Regarding Mario Williams, who is a real game changer when healthy: The U.S. Navy spends a ton of the budget on Aircraft Carriers, because they are absolute game changers when in the combat theater. If the carrier only has two out of four catapults operational or sinks to the ocean floor half way to the assigned deployment, it’s effectiveness is no longer worth the investment for the fleet.

by MeMongo on Jan 24, 2012 9:35 AM CST up reply actions

Meh

I am indifferent about Carr. While some things can be humorous when discussing him, he has had a decent NFL career, even if a large part of it is as a back-up.

"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg

"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell

I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right

by Barryfromtexas on Jan 19, 2012 10:55 AM CST reply actions

Meh

Car has actually had a good career if you care to think about it. He had a horrible time with our Texans but hes still in the league 10 years later. That means hes been getting a pay check to hold a clipboard for a very long time. To put it in perspective most people dont last 3 years.

I dont wish him ill, but i cant wish him well. I think he had tallent, and our O-line was a joke for so long that i dont blame everyting on him, but work ethic is work ethic, he had a chance to be a franchise QB, and now hes a joke.

"Sure, luck means a lot in football. Not having a good quarterback is bad luck."
-Don Shula

by zegion on Jan 19, 2012 12:15 PM CST up reply actions

If Our O-Line Was a Joke

Why did the sack count drop precipitously when Carr left? Not much changed with the line.

by kozanack on Jan 20, 2012 10:22 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

Pitts used to give up a lot of sacks.

Then he suddenly became good.

Dallas Cowboys, all hat and no cattle since 1996.

"Will it never be noon?" Duke of Orleans to the Dauphin and Constable of France every Sunday before the Texans play.

by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 20, 2012 10:42 PM CST up reply actions

Yep.

I bought the “Carr was ruined by horrible pass protection!” until he couldn’t earn a starting job anywhere else.

He was a bust Period.

"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus

by FreedomRide on Jan 20, 2012 10:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs

i may be in the minority here

but i think carr could have been a serviceable QB had it not been for tony boselli. Mongo was right- had casserly and capers done their homework, boselli would have never been taken. chronic shoulder problems that could end a career, but hey lets take him anyways! lack of an oline, lack of a running game, lack of receivers (except for andre of course) and a general lack of any sort of management that knew anything about football doomed him from the start.

i will say, however, his lack of interest in football doesnt surprise me. i worked at sweetwater country club in high school, and a few weeks after he was drafted, i picked him up walking from his car to the course. at the time i didnt know who he was. after seeing him up there almost everyday for a month, i knew who he was. he talked more about golf than football. and that was the entire time he was a member there.

interestingly enough, aaron glen and marcus coleman were also members there. even when those 2 played golf, they talked football. coincidentally, they were both better football players than carr could ever imagine being. and part of that is their love of the game- when your talking about plays and schemes and other games and anything football while your playing golf… that shows something about whats in your mind. glen and coleman had football on the mind all the time- carr didnt. and it showed.

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
Albert Einstein, "Science, Philosophy and Religion: a Symposium", 1941

by grandmasteroz on Jan 19, 2012 12:55 PM CST reply actions

Re: Boselli

Houston’s decision to draft Tony Boselli was a calculated risk. They knew there was a chance he wouldn’t play again. Jacksonville was so desperate to get him off their books that they agreed they would not pull back a Jaguar if the Texans took Boselli off their hands (the expansion draft rules provided that a team could pull an unprotected player back once one of its players was drafted).

The Texans agreed, and that agreement allowed them to get both Seth Payne and Gary Walker instead of just one of them. Sucks that Boselli never played in Houston, but Payne and Walker were both very solid for the first few years of the franchise’s on-field existence.

Looking forward to a day when being a Texans fan doesn't mean that April is the highlight of my season...

by Tim on Jan 19, 2012 1:42 PM CST up reply actions