Mario Williams Deserves Some Love
I'll start by saying that as a fan I want to see Mario Williams stay in Houston. It would be nice to have him around for what should eventually be referred to as the the good'ole days. Especially after the harsh treatment he received on draft day and through his first couple of years here. If you were on the Bush bandwagon (I wasn't. No, seriously) I hope you learned your lesson about booing unpopular picks on draft day, but that's a subject for another time.
I've accepted the fact that Mario might not be here next year mainly for salary cap reasons. I've heard a lot of chatter around town that this doesn't matter because Barwin/Reed are just as good if not better than Mario. I love both Barwin and Reed, but I think that fails to give credit to the type of player Mario Williams is.
QB Killing
As edge rushers, the first thing that always comes up is sacks, so that's what I'm going to focus on. Just looking at sacks can be deceiving though, so let's take a broader look at pass rushing. I'm going to use a lot of Pro Football Focus numbers (standard disclaimer about PFF's #'s goes here). One of PFF's signature stats is pass rushing productivity. Basically they add up how many sacks, hits, and hurries a player gets and divide it by how many times they rushed the passer. Hits and hurries are weighted as being worth .75 of a sack. I think this is a very useful way to get a general sense of a player's performance. I pulled the numbers for Mario, Barwin, and Reed from last year(including playoffs) and Mario's numbers from 2010 for a larger sample size.
| Sacks | Hits | Pressures | Pass Rush Snaps |
PRP | |
| Mario Williams (2011) | 5 | 2 | 15 | 126 | 14.1 |
| Mario Williams (2010) | 11 | 13 | 36 | 465 | 10.3 |
| Connor Barwin (2011) | 12 | 19 | 28 | 598 | 7.9 |
| Brooks Reed (2011) | 10 | 6 | 26 | 472 | 7.2 |
At first glance they look fairly similar, but to give you a sense of how these numbers compare to the rest of the league take a look at PFF's article, "Three Years of Pass Rushing Productivity: Edge Rushers" from June 2011. If you're too lazy to click that link I'll give you a summary. Mario's PRP puts him just outside the top 20 in 2010. Mario's numbers from 2008-2010 (9.36) place him 17th on the list for all edge rushers. It looks like Reed's and Barwin's numbers will compare really well against other 3-4 OLB's this year. However, if you look at the three year scores for all edge rushers in the previous link that level of the production would barely have them outside of the bottom 20.
Now, take a look at this article from one of my other favorite sites, Football Outsiders. I think it points out one important factor. Reed and Barwin were able to put up nice sack totals in part because Wade Phillips scheme gave them a couple of easy ones and something called a coverage sack where the QB was forced to hold onto the ball for a long period of time because all his receivers were covered (I didn't even know that was legal. Thanks Wade!). That's not to say Mario never got any "cheap" sacks. My point is he was still able to produce without the benefit of well designed defensive scheme based on pressuring the QB.
With only one year of numbers from Reed and Barwin it's not a perfect comparison. Both should improve with more experience, and it is possible they surpass Mario's level of production one day. Just remember, for most of his time here Mario's been playing in a Frank Bush or a Richard Smith designed defense much less potent than the system Wade Phillips has in place now, and was still able put up production on par with some of the best in the business.
The Rest of the Story
There is more to playing OLB than rushing the passer. Without sitting down with someone and watching a bunch of film it's hard to come to any kind of consensus on who's better in the run game. Personally I think Mario brings a lot to defense in regards to stopping the run, but we could spend hours debating who does a better job against the run (Mario IMO), or who's better in coverage (Barwin or Reed IMO) and never reach a consensus. I don't want to do that, so let's look at an area where there is a clear distinction.
I think one area where Mario adds something that Reed or Barwin can't is Mario's versatility. If Mario comes back there's no reason we couldn't expect him to take some snaps from the DE position. I think it's perfectly feasible to rotate Mario between OLB and 3-4 DE without losing much either way and helping to keep both groups fresh. There's not many players who you could even consider doing that with. Hell, I wouldn't mind seeing them trying out Mario at nose tackle in a T-N-T front on passing downs like Buddy Ryan used to do with Reggie White. Frankly the idea of what Wade Phillips can come up with having Mario, Barwin, Reed, Antonio Smith, and JJ Watt all on the field at the same time gives me this weird tingly sensation all over. I'm not sure why, but I'm pretty sure it's awesome.
The fact is players with Mario Williams combination of strength, size, and athleticism just don't come along very often. If we can't get a new deal done with him I will feel slightly cheated because we never really got to see what a defensive mind like Wade could get out of him. If the economics don't work out I won't be too upset though( I do have a small glimmer of hope). That's just the nature of the beast in today's NFL.
Summary
-Reed and Barwin did a Fantastic job this year and the future looks bright no matter what
-Mario Williams is a unique talent and we should be appreciative of what he's brought to this team whether he stays or not
-Don't cheapen what Mario Williams has accomplished by trying to rationalize that Barwin and Reed are better because of simple sack numbers. Outside of five games Mario has never played surrounded by the talent we have now, nor has he gotten to play for a defensive mastermind like Wade Phillips.
-I'm as excited about this team's chances next year, and farther down the road than I ever have been.
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This is all you had to say to me.
Mario has never played surrounded by the talent we have now, nor has he gotten to play for a defensive mastermind like Wade Phillips
We are finally in a situation
where our most important offseason moves are just resigning some guys and having a good, pressure free draft.
Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 20, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
I still think Mario is smarter than Dunta and smarter than Namdi
I hope his agent is not a pure asshole from hell. (I don’t know if Namdi was the one being coy or if it was his agent playing games to jack up the money from the JESTS. But since agents are just another form of lawyer and I think most lawyers are down there next to the scum of the earth – bah. I hope Mario’s agent is one of the few good guys who made it through law school).
If anyone can come up with a deal that is satisfactory to both Mario AND the Texans it will be Rick Smith. The man is a genius.
I think that our playoff run without Matt Schaub should be a HUGE selling point to Mario.
Low cost of living here should be a HUGE selling point.
No state income tax should be a HUGE selling point.
The quality of the franchise/ownership should be a HUGE selling point.
If Mario goes somewhere else, it’s to a playoff contender who is willing to pay him ridiculous money. So . . .someone like the Patriots who needs to bulk up their defense. He won’t just go for more money it HAS to be more money + playoff potential. And now we fit that bill. Sooo there’s alot of reasons for Mario to stay with the Texans even if it’s for less money than he might get from some place like San Francisco or New England.
Plus Mario is old enough to appreciate the value of a playoff team on the ascendancy (like the Texans) not just a team that made it to the playoffs because their division was so bad (Seattle 2010 season).
We were willing to pay big bucks for Jonathan Joseph and Daneal Manning for our defense. I don’t know if it’s fair to use their pay scales to measure how much we should pay for Mario but Mario, when healthy, is worth every penny.
I trust that the contract will be structured something based on how many games he actually plays not just some insane ‘we love you’ and we’ll pay you insane money to sit on the IR. Maybe he’ll get some insane bonus if he plays in a playoff game.
Mario plays full throttle when he’s healthy and even when he’s not healthy he plays if it’s possible. So his professionalism isn’t in question. How much he values a young playoff bound team that he’s watched grow up vs how much more the other teams will offer him that’s what it will come down to.
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~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
ok
now I’m worried. That man did us NO favors and he clearly doesn’t know how to deal with Rick Smith.
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~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
Except now (Ben Dogra) knows that when Rick Smith says something, he means it
He blew the Nnamdi deal with the Texans as Rick cut the line of BS off and went for J-Jo. In fairness to Ben, he did get a deal done with Philly even though his client (Nnamdi Asomugha) really didn’t play up to expectations on that “dream team.”
Rick is going to have the upper hand in these negotiations. The Texans finished #2 in the league without Mario, and many would say it was the best pass rush overall. We’d love to have Mario on the team, but not if we have to lose too many other folks to keep him. Some might suggest a clause regarding “injury free” but that wouldn’t work. He’d either play soft to avoid injury, or play injured (assuming the medical staff doesn’t force the issue). Neither of which would really benefit the team.
by MeMongo on Jan 19, 2012 11:19 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope Mario is willing to fire his agent and maybe pick up Andre's agent instead
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by BattleRedFan on Jan 18, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
Isn't Dre's uncle his agent?
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NO! not any more
That year that we were worried that we’d lose Andre because of the contract that his uncle has gotten for him – Andre fired his uncle and hired a REAL agent. That guy got in conversation with Rick Smith and they worked out a hell of a deal that kept Andre happy and kept him with the Texans.
Don’t you remember the hoopla about Andre firing his uncle? and hiring a new agent? The Texans weren’t going to penalize Andre for having gotten a raw deal through his uncle.
Andre has a real agent now .. but I don’t remember who it is.
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~~ Fuzion
"This is a grown dog’s game. Ain’t no puppies out here." ~~ Cushing #56 to Antonio Smith #94
by BattleRedFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:20 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, yeah.
Now that you mention it, I remember. Gracias.
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here you go
Andre hires a new agent actual reporting from the Comicle =o I know . . . I know it’s rare but it happens.
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by BattleRedFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:21 PM CST up reply actions
Andre's agent is Kennard McGuire
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by BattleRedFan on Jan 18, 2012 8:22 PM CST up reply actions
mario probably also saw how things played out with mario
and has told his agent that if he fucks him over he will get fired. also the agent might realize that he got too greedy last time and might be more realistic on his approach this time around. we will find out soon.
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"I believe in this "zombie team that won’t fucking die no matter how many body parts you shoot off." We can win this game.
by NoSafetiesNeeded on Jan 19, 2012 7:29 AM CST up reply actions
Frankly the idea of what Wade Phillips can come up with having Mario, Barwin, Reed, Antonio Smith, and JJ Watt all on the field at the same time gives me this weird tingly sensation all over.
Ditto.
Wade has only just begun to wreak havoc; we got a taste in the Divisional Playoff game. I’m in favor of giving him all the deadly weapons he can use.
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-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
by FreedomRide on Jan 18, 2012 3:05 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
..

A Texans fan. Really. No, I'm not kidding.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 18, 2012 3:06 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
I knew I was going to rec this when I read the title.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
No kidding, eh?
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 18, 2012 10:30 PM CST up reply actions
I wish I could rec this 53 times.
One for each of Mario’s career sacks.
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Franchise them...
then trade him to Tampa! Pick up Claiburne with their #4 pick. Pick up Dwight Jones with our current #26 pick. That leaves you 6 other picks to let Wade draft young talent. Mario is one man, lets get 8 for his price! Loyalty and business don’t mix.
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
*him
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 18, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions
They aren't giving up Claiborne
And even then, Claiborne is a 4-3 DE, not a 3-4 OLB/DE hybrid man killer. I’d take a proven monster over a kid any day.
by SoCalTexan on Jan 18, 2012 11:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i may be wrong...
but i thought he was referring to drafting the CB claiborne out of LSU with the #4 pick…
but yeah either way i still say no..
by TexansAddict on Jan 19, 2012 3:27 AM CST up reply actions
yes
I was referring to morris Claiburne of LSU
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 19, 2012 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Why draft another corner?
Doesn’t make much sense
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 19, 2012 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
I think that was as much in reference to
Brandon Harris and Roc Carmichael as to anything else.
by Tailgate Andy on Jan 19, 2012 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
Which is why I ask
Why draft another corner?
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 19, 2012 1:27 PM CST up reply actions
No.
Bring back Aaron Brooks! He's the only one who can save us from the evil that is Drew Brees!!
Dallas’ misery will always be my delight
-TexansDC
You should see his Madden roster.
It could totally happen.
GET A SILK BAG FROM THE GRAVEYARD DUCK TO LIVE LONGER.
Oh my.
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-Catch 22-
If only life was a video game
Then your scenario would be both plausible and not idiotic.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
If you tag him
he’s getting $16M+ this year on a one-year deal. Any trade to another team would almost certainly hinge on Mario working out a long-term deal with that team. Why in the world would he take a deal that wasn’t going to pay him at least what he’d make under the tag, when he could just take that tag money then be a free agent next season?
Short version: Don’t be ridiculous.
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Tampa has the cap space
plus if what you say is the case then he’s all about the money anyway. We wouldn’t be able to resign him anyway with the new offer to Foster. It may be a little out of the ordinary but what other options do we have?
I drink your milkshake Eli!!!!!!!
by TexasOilman84 on Jan 19, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Tampa has repeatedly shown
that it isn’t willing to spend shit, even with the cap space
"We wouldn’t be able to resign him anyway with the new offer to Foster."
False.
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Bravo

Capt. Nately: You're a shameful opportunist! What you don't understand is that it's better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Old man in whorehouse: You have it backwards. It's better to live on your feet than to die on your knees. I know.
-Catch 22-
by Jordann on Jan 19, 2012 12:54 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
Another slant
What if Mario doesn’t want to come back?
Seriously. Some of the stories I’ve read with his quotes seem to indicate he’d rather play in a 4-3 defense in his old position. I’m too lazy to go searching for exact quotes, but I do remember reading that type of quote on at least two instances. Would he be willing to take less money (or similar money) to play for a different team, if it’s a system he likes better?
Granted, I don’t think this would be a smart move for him. The Texans have a strong chance to be a very good team for several years (depending on injuries and how we use the cap), he’ll be offered good/great money to stay, and he’s loved by the team and city.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if he doesn’t want to come back and just tries to use the Texans as a bargaining chip with someone else. We would all blame his agent, but it could actually come from Mario. Just a though, please don’t hurt me.
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by bigfatdrunk on Jan 19, 2012 8:30 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought those quotes
were prior to his seeing how well he fit in a Wade Phillips Joint.
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I read some of these
right before the playoffs. Interviews about how he felt about the team making it to the playoffs, his future with the team, etc. But the quotes could have been old for all I know.
Lions
We are taught from an early age how to deal with failure not success. (If at first you don't succeed try try again, if at first you succeed then what....) -Charlie Sheen
I come ready, when I came out the womb I was ready, tell them mama that's why you had me, you knew I was ready. -Moss
Dominating your opposition physically is great and all, but confounding them mentally is sooo much more fun.
2-15-DEN 44(14:36) (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 47 for 3 yards (N.Suh). FUMBLES (N.Suh), RECOVERED by DET-N.Suh at DEN 47. N.Suh to DEN 47 for no gain (K.Moreno). FUMBLES (K.Moreno), recovered by DET-C.Houston at DEN 47. C.Houston to DEN 47 for no gain (O.Franklin). Denver challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) K.Moreno up the middle to DEN 49 for 5 yards (S.Tulloch).
What I see
Is there will be plenty of pass play snaps for 3 edge rushers to share
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 19, 2012 10:48 AM CST reply actions
Not really
You can’t really get defensive players many snaps when you keep forcing the opposing offense to go 3-and-out.
MUHAHAHA!!!
by La Voz on Jan 19, 2012 11:43 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
we will have a third guy to share pass rush snaps
that guy will not be mario williams. he will no doubt chase the money, and someone will give him a bigger contract then what charles johnson got in carolina
We have foster, myers, briesel, re up cushing, figure out schaub, need a WR, NT, CB etc
reed and barwin will be the starters and a rookie or cost effective vet as the third guy
I want him to stay, but $$$ will not allow it
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Mario will have to choose....
Get paid the most or go get a ring
He’s already made a ton of coin. He can still make a lot of coin and stay with a team about to hit the show and get a ring.
If he just wants to slug it out in the trenches for five more years as the highest priced 4-3 DE and not care about a Superbowl, so be it.
Most players want the legacy of winning the big game, and making good money along the way. We’ll see what he chooses to do.
Guys don't take serious pay-cuts in this league.
At least, certainly not when they’re in the prime of their careers and negotiating for the last long-term contract they’ll ever receive. The Players Union doesn’t take kindly to that sort of behavior, either.
What sort of a discount are you guys envisioning, anyways? I’ve heard people talking about re-signing him at $6-7 million per year. That’s as insane as the talks last off-season about trading Slaton for a 3rd-round pick. If he takes a pay-cut, it’ll be settling for about $10 million per year instead of the potential $12-13 million that he might be able to get on the open market.
I suspect we’ll be having this discussion throughout the off-season, but let’s hold no illusions about the price it’s going to take to keep him here.
6 year/$72M contract was what Johnson got....
Largest pass-rushing OLB contract is 7 years/$79 for DeMarcus Ware…..and all of his cap numbers for that deal were smaller than Mario’s $15M (think the highest year was $13…..and lowest was $6…..deal heavily backloaded).
It’s all doable.
"Lord, beer me strength."
by TexansDC on Jan 19, 2012 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
so you're saying there's a chance?
we get to keep him?
=D
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by BattleRedFan on Jan 20, 2012 1:38 AM CST up reply actions
im so glad
im not the only one willing to throw out random TNG quotes. youre my new favorite BRF.
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by grandmasteroz on Jan 20, 2012 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
The way I looked it is, Mario counted $12M against the cap.
If we cut Leinart and maybe Jacoby, I remember reading it’d free up $3M or so, we would have $15M to sign Foster and Mario. With both deserving long-term guaranteed-money-heavy contracts, I can see $15M cap space being enough to sign both, of course that would also mean the other guys like Dreesen and Myers don’t get much of a raise if at all.
Thing is, our guys aren’t of similar character to the Haynesworth and Chris Johnson types who stops trying hard when they’re set with a fat guaranteed contract, so we should be okay giving them more bonus-heavy contracts that are easier on the cap room.
by jkcheng122 on Jan 23, 2012 4:17 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
We could be dealing with
"The greatest danger in planning for tomorrow is using yesterdays logic."
Marc Kahlberg
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them." - George Orwell
I think we will learn that the Bo$$man was right
by Barryfromtexas on Jan 19, 2012 11:51 AM CST reply actions
Roger will kneecap him for this.
Which is a shame, because I enjoy his play against the Texans.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Appreciate? Yes.
Appreciation is worth far less that $22m. And so is Mario.
Bandwagon fan since Oct. 6, 1999.
by Lone Spot on Jan 19, 2012 4:12 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Even tagging him wouldn't cost that much.
And a solid deal, similar to D. Ware’s deal in Dallas, would pay him market value while still being cap friendly in the first few years.
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If Mario wants to stay in Houston, I believe Smith and McNair will find a way to make it happen.
Just the welcome (change to sarcasm font) that he received from the city of Houston, would have been enough for a few to give up. We as fans get pissed when the national media talks about the Texans without watching games, then I can’t even imagine what Mario had to be through when a lot of the local fans and media were ready to call him a bust before he stepped on to the field . Yet, for quiet a few years he remained the one-man pass rush squad, while playing through injuries, and for inept DCs. And never once so far, have I heard Mario utter a single word against the critics who labeled him a failure without seeing him play a single snap. In a way, that personifies this year’s team – playing against all kinds of adversities and odds. Bob McNair is an owner who takes care of his players. So, I fully expect Mario to be back as long as he wants to be.
by kaizer on Jan 19, 2012 10:05 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
I really hope two things happen in 2012/2013
1. The Texans retain Mario Williams
2. Mario Williams is able to perform at 100% for up to 20 games (depending on wild card bye week)
Being less than 100% four out of six seasons and taking criticism for taking plays off as a result bring down his effectiveness and the overall performance of the team. I’d much rather have Barwin or Reed’s high motor at 100% than Mario at 70%. Let’s hope Mario stays healthy and stays here.
Regarding Mario Williams who is a real game changer when healthy: The U.S. Navy spends a ton of the budget on Aircraft Carriers, because they are absolute game changers when in the combat theater. If the carrier only has two out of four catapults operational or sinks to the ocean floor half way to the assigned deployment, it’s effectiveness is no longer worth the investment for the fleet.
If Mario can play 12 games at 100%, I'll take it,
especially if he comes back off an injury at 100% for the playoffs. Remember the effect he had in the Stealers game.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Agreed, but he isn't worth the same money as DeMarcus Ware or Jared Allen if Mario is only playing 12 games out of 20
Forget “hometown” discounts. Mario and his agent need to take “limited performance” discounts on the new contract.
Regarding Mario Williams, who is a real game changer when healthy: The U.S. Navy spends a ton of the budget on Aircraft Carriers, because they are absolute game changers when in the combat theater. If the carrier only has two out of four catapults operational or sinks to the ocean floor half way to the assigned deployment, it’s effectiveness is no longer worth the investment for the fleet.
That would be sensible...
…but this is the NFL. My fear is that some idiot GM/Owner will “reach” for him and make him an offer he can’t refuse. If that happens, Rick Smith will have to fold.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
by FreedomRide on Jan 24, 2012 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Yep and Rick should fold if that happens
If Mario goes somewhere (let’s all pray it is NFC) and we see him do the same thing in the next 6 years that he did the last 6 years for money in the $70M+ range, we will have made a good decision to let him go. He didn’t produce $70M+ worth of on field performance for us.
I think if we can get him at less than $70M over six years and he can produce more by staying healthy, we’d have a huge advantage keeping him.
Regarding Mario Williams, who is a real game changer when healthy: The U.S. Navy spends a ton of the budget on Aircraft Carriers, because they are absolute game changers when in the combat theater. If the carrier only has two out of four catapults operational or sinks to the ocean floor half way to the assigned deployment, it’s effectiveness is no longer worth the investment for the fleet.
He's a gamble, no question.
But oh, the payoff if you hit.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
by FreedomRide on Jan 24, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions

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