PFW: Brandon Harris Didn't Play Because Of A "Lack Of Speed?"
Many Texans fans, including me, were confused as to why Brandon Harris couldn't crack the CB rotation last year. He wasn't even active for several games. For a team that was far from bursting with proven quality performers at CB, the thought of the team's second-round selection being deemed not even good enough to suit up on game days, much less actually play, was puzzling. We speculated as to why that was the case. Were the Texans making a concerted effort to take things slow with Harris after seeing how poorly Kareem Jackson fared when he was thrown into the fire as a rookie? Was Harris simply not picking up the scheme? Was it a technique issue?
At least one report indicates that it was something else. What's more, if the report is accurate, it may not bode well for Harris' chances to break through at corner any time soon.
In one of its recent "AFC Whispers" features, Pro Football Weekly said:
While rookies J.J. Watt, Brooks Reed and T.J. Yates were making big contributions for the Texans this past season, second-round CB Brandon Harris, whom the club moved up to draft, was pretty much a forgotten man. Word is Harris' lack of speed made it hard for him to get on the field, even on special teams. With the improvement of nickel CB Brice McCain, it remains to be seen if Harris can carve out a bigger role next season.
Wow. As much as I'd like to dismiss the possibility that Harris' lack of speed was keeping him from seeing snaps at corner, there may be some legitimacy to it. Recall that the Texans did entertain the notion of having Harris back Troy Nolan up at safety after Danieal Manning was injured. At the time, that made no sense. But if Harris' speed really is/was an issue? Maybe you can see the rationale.
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Hopefully he can somehow get faster in the offseason...
…love his alleged football IQ (coach’s son), but if you make Kareem Jackson look fast, then I can’t help but wonder if we traded up for a bust.
Was speed an issue for him in college? He had a 4.53 40-time at the Combine. Not blazing fast, but certainly not slow.
No
It won’t get you any extra attention though, and it’s probably on the back end of what would be considered the acceptable range. Forty times are somewhat irrelevant in my opinion anyway. 4.53 is plenty fast enough if you can play at that speed, but the ability to change direction quickly and get to to top speed are far more important than a flat out sprint.
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Its a bit slow for a R2 guy imo, but
the bigger issue is “football fast”. Victor Cruz was a 4.55 guy iirc, but he has elite separation ability. Hips and ability to accelerate from a back peddle to top speed are more important for a CB.
Moreover, 40 times can be really skewed by guy’s starts, for better and for worse.
As good as our front office is on many positions, they seem really lacking in their ability to evaluate CBs…hopefully Phillips will be even more involved with the draft this year.
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by The American Ronin on Jan 25, 2012 10:39 AM CST up reply actions
He did get dismantled by Michael Floyd in his last game as a player for the "U".
One of the issues was he couldn’t really keep up with Floyd or match him physically. I think his speed reputation has more to do with where he came from and not what he’s actually shown.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Wow. I'm wondering more and more why we moved up for this guy.
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by FreedomRide on Jan 23, 2012 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Man, His speed must have been real bad..
If he couldnt get on the field for special teams.
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Lol
Kareem, Harris, McManis, Quin.
We’re loaded with cornerbacks too slow to play cornerback.
Kareem didn't get beat much with pure speed this year
When he got beat deep he was usually stride for stride(or at least within striking distance) with his man, but he just didn’t have the awareness to make a play on the ball.
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Joseph played most of the speedy guys, but when Kareem was on one, he was at clear disadvantage IMO.
His head turning problem is also related to speed IMO. He’s afraid to look back because if he gets behind the receiver, he can’t catch up.
McManis isn't slow, is he?
He seems to always be the first one down the field on kickoffs
by JBal on Jan 23, 2012 12:28 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
I don't see that as the issue at all
He’s plenty fast.
The issue is that he doesn’t seem to be able to do two things at once. Like his brain can’t calculate where the ball is in the air, where the receiver is and how fast to keep going at the same time.
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Brandon Harris didn’t run the 40 at his Pro Day. He actually had a worse vertical leap (34.5) than he did at the Combine. Charley Casserly isn’t impressed with Harris, stating that he’s a “fourth corner” on a team. Considering Casserly’s dubious draft history, this is great news for the Miami corner.
4.43 at combine.
4.43 according to walterfootball
4.53 according to nfl.com
4.43 is the correct number
PFW is pretty much guessing IMO.
Harris was drafted because wade thought mccain couldnt be the nickel corner. Since mccain has played well all year in that spot, no need for harris to play.
I bet he gets a good chance next year to play jason allens snaps, and if he does poorly, you have carmichael who also has a chance to be a solid #2
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^ this is what i am thinking too
Sense the coaches could not talk to players because of the union thing, i think Wade went with better safe the sorry approach. Does anybody think McCain can push for for allen’s spot?
2012 1st round draft pick is...............
McCain might be able to earn some more snaps.
I think we see the Roc get a few snaps next year.
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no,
and that is only because of size, Mccain is really small
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by Carter Liles on Jan 23, 2012 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
harris is small.
but mccain is REALLY small. he would get brutalized by bigger wideouts. I love what mccain has done with the nickel job. but i don’t think he can be more than a nickel
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by Carter Liles on Jan 23, 2012 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
McCain reminds me of Darrell Green
Green sucked at CB his first few years.
Green may have been slightly faster.
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by Barryfromtexas on Jan 23, 2012 6:49 PM CST up reply actions
C'mon man...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Hy5NJyqYg
Green vs. Dorsett and Dickerson. I watched the Dickerson game and Eric had a ten yard gap on him. Green isn’t slightly faster than anyone (maybe with the exception of Deion), and it’s really not even close.
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Didn't they say Green still had 4.4 to 4.5 speed when he was in his 40s?
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by The Night Owl on Jan 24, 2012 4:08 AM CST up reply actions
His speed is mythical
Legend has it he can field his own kickoffs. OK I just made that up.
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Maybe, but Andre can field his own passes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZsL_Jjx_E8
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by professortex on Jan 24, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I never saw this
Just the ones where mike vick threw into the stands.
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by Taco Joe on Jan 25, 2012 1:40 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Aren't they both 5'9"?
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by The Night Owl on Jan 24, 2012 4:07 AM CST up reply actions
If I remember correctly
Carmichael was a fair amount slower than Harris. But was quite a bit taller too. He was the one I thought we should consider moving to safety
roc ran in the 4.4 range as well plenty fast
both faster then kareem
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well that is comforting
glad I was wrong on that
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by nolander on Jan 23, 2012 11:46 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
I love this
because it can be a death joke, a racial joke, or a player-evaluation joke.
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by MDC on Jan 23, 2012 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 11 recs
insert the obligatory “Shop smart, shop S-Mart!” here
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by Stupendous Man on Jan 23, 2012 12:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
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by buckaroo_banzai on Jan 23, 2012 1:22 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t think so. We just cut up our girlfriend with a chainsaw. Does that sound fine?
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by Stupendous Man on Jan 23, 2012 1:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I've always been partial to
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by indifferent5000 on Jan 23, 2012 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
Well, that's not encouraging.
Not sure how much stock should be put into this report, though it’s only explanation offered for his lack of playing time so far. We’ll just have to wait until next season and see if he plays more.
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by Stupendous Man on Jan 23, 2012 12:06 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The short of it is that he didn't play.
If your second round draft pick doesn’t get on the field, that’s a problem.
At this point I would not be terribly surprised to see us draft another CB in the first 2-3 rounds.
"An open mind is like a fortress with it's gates unbarred and unguarded."
I’d be surprised if they drafted another cornerback in the first half of the draft, personally. How many years in a row can a team spend a high draft pick on a CB without admitting that the previous CB picks were mistakes?
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by Stupendous Man on Jan 23, 2012 1:52 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed
I think its becoming obvious that some positions are best filled by the draft and other positions are better to let other teams draft, sift through the talent and then just try to steal them in free agency.
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 23, 2012 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
Its not like he woke up one morning slower
If he was slow, why would they have traded up in the draft to get him? It makes no sense.
I’m going to go with the more logical explanation, he was Fucoby’s roommate during camp.
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by DaGoaT on Jan 23, 2012 1:42 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The short of it is that he didn’t play.
’Zackly.
We traded up for this guy and he had 3 tackles and 3 penalties on ST. On defense he was on the field for 28 plays and contributed 1 tackle, 1 assist and 1 pressure. What is there about that record that makes anyone think he’ll be a factor in 2012—or ever?
Now we have to wonder how long he’ll hang on to the Kareem Jackson Special Roster Exemption.
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he isnt slow, but he isnt extremely fast either
but McCain is very fast….he ran 4.28 on his pro day, and has more experience. So when Kareem struggled with the extremely speedy receivers, rather than go to Harris, they matched speed with speed and went with McCain. At least that is how I would interpret it.
If I remember right, McCain covered Jacoby Ford in the Raiders game
I don’t remember if Ford had a big game or not
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by The Night Owl on Jan 24, 2012 4:12 AM CST up reply actions
rec'd for my cousin Vinney
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by professortex on Jan 24, 2012 9:17 AM CST up reply actions
That was my initial reaction to this post
If he’s slow then why was he drafted? Why did our scouts not see that?
Nah, I think the reason is mainly that the position is log jammed and there was no need to throw another untested rookie CB to the fire.
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We drafted a slow short corner.
Why did we do this again?
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 23, 2012 2:44 PM CST up reply actions
They thought he was as fast as advertised & wasn't sold on McCain yet
Then Wade got a better look at McCain & saw what speed looked like, & Vance taught him up well
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by The Night Owl on Jan 24, 2012 4:14 AM CST up reply actions
Off topic
Got bored at work and saw a Texans article in the chron. It was about our TEs and the likeliness of us re-signing Joel Dreessen. My question, while Joel has been great for us and is valuable to the team, can Graham or Casey essentially fill in for him without a steep drop off? It just doesn’t make a ton of sense to pay extra to keep a guy if we have extra’s at that position, especially if we’re strapped for cap space. If we have Vickers we don’t NEED Casey at FB, and he’s said to have some of the best hands on the team…so what ya think?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 23, 2012 3:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I like Dreesen but...
I’m all for letting him walk. Casey is more of a threat as a WR and it’s about time to give Graham some opportunities too. I wouldn’t mind us picking up more of a blocking TE in the draft though
Why? It would make more sense to draft a Fullback
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by The Night Owl on Jan 24, 2012 4:15 AM CST up reply actions
Right?!
cut Vickers’ ass. Dressen has actually had an impact on the team this season, granted his false start lost us the Titans game but who cares about that. Dude can make plays.
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by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 24, 2012 9:00 AM CST up reply actions
Hard to say without ever having really seen Graham play.
But holding penalties be damned, Dreessen is a very good blocker. He’s also sure-handed and gets the job done in the red-zone. I’m of the opinion that the most important thing for this team going forward is to keep the offensive line intact, and Dreessen might as well be considered our sixth offensive lineman. Methinks he’s more important to this offense than any of us realize, and I have a hunch that Kubiak will make him a priority this off-season.
OD, Casey, and Dreesen were all out at least several games due to injury this year
and Dreesen and OD both turn 30 this summer. Despite that, we never really saw Graham play. I think we need another TE to give him some competition.
I think we need to re-sign Dreesen for sure because there is very little if any drop-off from OD to him. I would also like to see us play some downs with Foster and Casey in the backfield, Andre at WR, and OD and Dreesen in the double TE formation. Basically you would have great blocking for Foster if he ran, or 6 players very capable of receiving a pass. But to run that very often you have to have at least 4 healthy TE’s to provide subs and some backup for injury.
Whoa there fella...
Foster, Casey, Andre, Daniels, AND Dreessen? Little optimistic are we? You can't have too many players not injured
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 23, 2012 3:34 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Alright
But if we’re expecting all these guys to be healthy all at once, we’ll need to start sacrificing virgins ASAP!
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 23, 2012 3:55 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
LOL
Who woulda thunk we would hear such thoughts?
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by Barryfromtexas on Jan 23, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
to sacrifice?
Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 24, 2012 9:01 AM CST up reply actions
Never understimate the value of a guy with a knack for making big plays.
Dreesen? All he does is catch touchdowns.
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There is a 6-6 TE coming out from Stanford.
Dude would be a beast in this system. Far better than these little 5-10 WR’s people keep harping on.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
There is a 6-6 TE…
Oh, god: it’s spreading.
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by FreedomRide on Jan 23, 2012 10:27 PM CST up reply actions
If Joel is gone is he's there why not?
We keep sinking 1st and 2nd round picks into the defense. It’s time to start putting talent on the offense and give Schaub more weapons.
Besides if he has the ability to be a Rob Gronkowski/Jimmy Graham type player of course he’s worth a 1st or 2nd.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
Now that the defense is loaded with studs and playing at a high level
I expect to see a shift in draft philosophy to shore up Gary’s offense.
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Gary's offense is fine. Schaub, AJ and Foster only played one quarter together this year...
and we were 13th in yards and 10th in points and 5th in DVOA.
BPA is clearly the way to go this year.
I'm not disputing the state of Gary's offense
I’m saying this draft will be used to shore it up. The first round pick will likely be BPA, but the overall draft will likely be weighted toward the offense.
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That would be the only TE worth taking, unless there was another 6'5" or 6'6" TE in the draft
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by The Night Owl on Jan 24, 2012 4:17 AM CST up reply actions
Any TE who can get open and have a 33% TD ratio (mid-season stat ratio high point) in catches is a keeper
How many of our non-Andre WRs were able to get open for TDs last season? If we are going to make cap room in the group who receive footballs through the air, I’d much rather keep Dreessen than that unmentionable guy who likes to head butt punted footballs (twice in one important game even!)
Dreessen led the team with TD receptions at 6, which is twice as many as any other player with receiving stats:

That's what I'm sayin'.
It ain’t just luck: the boy has a gift He had 4 TDs on 36 catches in 2010.
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Protective schemes
As long as quin and manning are capable in helping on kareems side our pass rush should be dominant enough to make plays and force bad ones. Next year with our offense getting back into the top 5 we will be able to tee off our pass rush more often helping protect kareem or Harris.
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by jahunter221 on Jan 23, 2012 3:24 PM CST via mobile reply actions
I love the thought of getting Schaub back AND adding more weapons for him to use.
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 23, 2012 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yup.
I want Schauby to have someone else to throw to who really scares defenses, someone who is a threat to go all the way on every play.
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I wouldn't put too much into the PFW comment
Some around here hate to admit it, but the Texans were kind of deep at Corner Back this year.
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Deep at CB, yes
Talented at CB, that’s a different story. All I can say is thank you Jesus for Jonathan Joseph!
Also, golf clap for Brice Mccain not sucking this year. Thank you sir, may I have another?
by Its Gonna Happen on Jan 23, 2012 7:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
we have questions about our #2
but we are set at 1 and 3
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I think we target a " SPEEDY " cornerback/punt returner
in the 2nd or 3rd round. Somebody that has elite game speed but is vary raw. A guy that could be taught to be a return man with a bunch of camp repetitions , but is years away from, and maybe never will be starting corner material. I think rounds 5-6 we get some guys primarily for special teams……..The 2011-2012 post season has taught us special teams play will lose or win you football games. Texans, Ravens, 49ers ALL HAD NEGATIVE SPECIAL TEAMS PLAY that amounted to points given or loss.
THINK ABOUT THIS. Almost half of the playoff games were won or loss on special teams.
We need a better punter, and ALL AROUND better return game. Our blocking is not good enough on special teams……there is HUGE room for improvment in this one area.
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Hoping the kid comes back from a ACL tear.
He must plant and suppurt wis weight with that leg. Tendons and ligiments do not grow stronger after tearing, they will always be weaker than before. Even if only slightly. I would not rule out bringing in another punter for competition…..No harm in bringing in the best competition you can find.
by b4theprofit on Jan 23, 2012 9:11 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Article says we are gonna give Foster a new contract and that Wade wants to keep Mario
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/01/22/what-will-texans-do-with-mario-williams
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" don't expect him to take a hometown discount. He and his agent, Ben Dogra, will gauge the market in March and allow the chips to fall from there, we hear."
This leapt out at me…….he better take a bit of a discount. I am sure he is worth A TON of money to some teams…..I think the VIKINGS should target him. Imagine that pair of ends in a 4-3. It would make sense for a team like that to target him and offer him a dump truck full of money if they can afford it. That is just ONE that comes to mind……We are talking about making your team a top 10 defense With one signing for alot of teams.
I think the vikings might need to spend that money elsewhere.
I’m more worried about him going to another AFC contender. Like the Patriots.
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Where else would you spend it? They have a qb they are "grooming" AP, and decent WR.
Offensive line can be had in one draft pick and a decent free agent signing. Defensivly a starting LB could be had in the draft in the second round……Williams would help their secondary more than any CB signing.
Let's hope the scounts and GMs in the NFL have the common sense to direct Mario and his agent Ben to this link or a similar comparison:
Key Performance Metrics as Mario and his agent “gauge the market” has to include his performance compared to others:
MARIO NFL SACK RANKING vs OTHER SACK LEADERS:
2011 – Tied for 66th with 5 sacks (Jared Allen led the league with 22 sacks, DeMarcus Ware ranked 2nd with 19.5 sacks)
2010 – Tied for 24th with 8.5 sacks (DeMarcus Ware led the league with 15.5 sacks)
2009 – Ranked 16th with 9 sacks (Elvis Dumervil led the league with 17 sacks, Jared Allen ranked 2nd with 14.5, DeMarcus Ware was tied for 7th with 11 sacks)
2008 – Tied for 7th with 12 sacks (DeMarcus Ware led the league with 20 sacks)
2007 – Tied with DeMarcus Ware for 3rd with 14 sacks (Jared Allen led the league with 15.5 sacks)
2006 – Ranked 82nd with 4.5 sacks (Shawne Merriman led the league with 17, DeMarcus Ware was 9th with 11.5 sacks)
So in six seasons Mario has only finished in the TOP 5 one time where he was ranked (tied) for 3rd and only made the TOP 10 twice. He has never led the league in sacks. By the numbers, his agent has one hell of a challenge to compare him to DeMarcus Ware or Jared Allen who have both led the league twice and been ranked 2nd in that same time frame over the last six seasons:
DeMarcus Ware: 2011 – 2nd, 2010 – 1st, 2009 – 7th, 2008 – 1st, 2007 – 3rd, 2006 – 9th
In the last six seasons, Ware has led twice, was 2nd once, and 3rd once. That’s TOP 3 four out of six seasons and TOP 10 all six seasons.
Jared Allen: 2011 – 1st, 2010 – 10th, 2009 – 2nd, 2008 – 5th, 2007 – 1st, 2006 – 30th
Allen has led twice, was 2nd once and 5th once. That’s TOP 5 four out of six seasons and TOP 10 five out of six seasons.
Which clearly shows that Mario Williams:
1. Doesn’t even come close to producing like DeMarcus Ware or Jared Allen in terms of sacks year over year.
2. Has been plagued with injuries affecting his on field performance 4 out of 6 seasons!
3. Didn’t complete the regular season schedule the last two years.
When he is healthy, Mario is a physical specimen of an athlete who can easily be one of the top 3 in the league at run defense and pass rush. The problem is that other than 2007, he has not been 100% through a full season. This results in him playing injured and the performance results fade quickly. He ended his last two seasons early on I/R.
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Rotoworld.
Harris had no role in Houston’s secondary, and coaches felt he didn’t run downfield fast enough to contribute on kick and punt coverage. Undersized with a 4.53 forty time, Harris probably won’t be viewed as future starter by the Texans. He may get a chance to play behind Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, and nickel back Brice McCain in 2012, replacing free agent Jason Allen. Jan 22 – 2:47 PM
Someone else picked up the story. Intentional leak to motivate Harris?
Press constantly repeat each other's nonsense.
Doesn’t mean anything.
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by Jonathan Fosburgh on Jan 23, 2012 10:00 PM CST up reply actions
I think there's something to it when he can't even get on ST with McManis out and other guys hurt.
Running a fast 40 time doesn’t mean you are a fast football player.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
The use of "didn't" instead of "couldn't" makes it seem like effort may have been the problem on ST.
That’s probably reading too much in to it, though.
I called this.
I am also echoing my prediction that Roc Carmichael is a future starter on this team.
Welcome to Houston, J.J. Watt, Brooks Reed, Brandon Harris, Rashad Carmichael, Shiloh Keo, T.J. Yates, Derek Newton, and Cheta Ozougwu!
Here's a great 22min video of Brandon Harris highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbQFAqEYI2k
Some thoughts I have about Brandon Harris after seeing it:
* Plays a bit too physical beyond the 5-yard bump zone in order to stay with his guys. It’s a subtle kind of physical though, could easily be called interference or could be ignored by refs.
* Plays with a cushion (often 10 yards or more)
* Very good zone awareness
* Great ball skills, times his attacks on the ball really well (be it when making contact with a receiver or timing his jumps well to prevent taller receivers from bringing a jump ball in)
* Solid in run support
* Doesn’t ever seem to be out of position in coverage (closes well when he is)
* I could definitely see a very accurate passer or a speed receiver exposing him on deep routes, though I think this could be said about all but the elite CBs in the NFL.
After watching that video, I can see why folks thought highly of him. Heck, the Steelers were planning to pick him if we didn’t. Given the defensive talent on both the Steeler and Texans rosters, I have a hard time believing both teams would have been wrong.
I think the more likely case is that yes, his lack of speed DID keep him off the field, but NOT because he lacks sufficient playing speed, but just because he’s not as fast as Brice McCain (perhaps our fastest player; Trindon doesn’t count). Brice has actually played pretty decently (would be curious if FO or PFW stats could back that up), so I suspect it wasn’t anything Brandon Harris did wrong that kept him off, but rather, something Brice McCain did right. Now, as to why he didn’t see time on special teams, that I’m not sure of. Perhaps it’s because he’s a smaller guy or that because he wasn’t going to get field time on defense he became an easy scratch from the active roster each week.
Off topic
Anyone have a link to next years schedule?
by Fastalkerus_Prime on Jan 24, 2012 2:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions
the schedule hasnt been released
only this:
Home: Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins, Baltimore Ravens, Green Bay Packers, Minnesota Vikings
Away: Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, New England Patriots, New York Jets, Denver Broncos, Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions
Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 24, 2012 9:05 AM CST up reply actions
Some pretty tough road games in there
Looking at the home games, I would expect them to go 7-1 at a minimum. The Pack should be tough, but I don’t see anyone else on there we have an excuse to lose to at home including the Ravens.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
realistically
I think we’re favored in most, if not all, of our games before the season starts.
That is, if we re-sign at least Foster and Myers.
TJ must throw 30 times for us to win.
Brutal road lineup, even the Broncos. That's always a tough place to get a win.
7-1 home, 4-4 road? I’d take that right now, I guess. Doubt it would get us a wild card bye, though.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
by FreedomRide on Jan 24, 2012 11:49 AM CST up reply actions
11-5 wins the division
No way the BESFs post more than 9 wins next year.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
Think he meant a first round bye.
by JBal on Jan 24, 2012 12:38 PM CST via Android app up reply actions
It would get us the division, so we'd be one of the top 4 seeds.
Unless we’re one of the top 2 seeds, we don’t get a wild card bye, though.
by Tailgate Andy on Jan 24, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions
Dunno why not.
They have a solid young team, and Chris Johnson could easily have a bounce-back season. I wouldn’t write them so easily.
by Nashmeister on Jan 24, 2012 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Me neither. The NFL is too tight: teams come out of nowhere to have big years.
Britt’s coming back, too. If they get some decent QB play, they will be tough.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
by FreedomRide on Jan 24, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Hassleback actually played pretty well this year IMO
Not sure how they could hope for more out of him or Locker next year.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
His NFL passer rating was 18th.
They will have to hope for better from their QBs if they have any hope of winning the Division.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
I should have expanded that statement and said "played pretty well for him this year"
I agree with your assessment, the question is can they ask for better out of those two? I am not convinced…
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
Nor I.
Glasselbeck hit his ceiling long ago, and I thought they reached picking Locker.
They will probably play their new boy a lot more in 2012, so it will be interesting to see how he does. He at least resembled an NFL QB in the brief glimpses I got of him this season, which is a hell of a lot more than I can say for Blaine “Whoa There!” Gabbert.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
I agree
My early early prediction has the Titans playing us in the divisional round after we get a bye.
Madame de Staël once said, "One must choose in life between boredom and suffering." De Staël is dead but there is always an alternative.
This is where the cool is.
Just don't see it
They only won 9 this year with an easier schedule, and that was with us giving them a freebie the last game. I also feel that they kind of overachieved this year and were really more of a 6-7 win team. Anything can happen in the NFL, but barring them making some huge splash in FA, I can’t see them winning more games next year than they did this year. It is always possible though.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
It's a matter of how their QBs play more than anything else, ISTM.
They were mediocre in 2011, and I agree the BESFs were gifted a winning season in that last game.
The “ifs” are large for them: CJ and Glasselbeck/Locker will have to come up big if they are to challenge the Texans.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
Well if someone is going to challenge us for the South it should be them
I just can’t see the Glitter Kitties or Colts turning it around next year, even if Five-head suits up.
"Never underestimate the dumb with JJ" - Hugh Jarce
Yep. Forget them next year.
/jinx
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
This bums me out.
I really hope he can find his way into the starting lineup. He was the pick I was most excited about coming out last years draft (probably because of all the inept CBs we had on the roster going into the draft). I know this might sound idiotic, but I am going to put it out there anyways because I love the movie so much, BUT I think BHarr may have a little seabiscuit in him. More of a gamer type. Smaller scrappy guy who just needs to be out on the field, across from the reciever. In college he just seemed to make alot of plays and was around the ball alot. I remember there was some stat like he gave up 2 or 3 TDs in his first game as a freshman or soph, then he didnt give up another the rest of his time at Miami. I may be crazy, but I think if you work him into the lineup, and get his NFL legs under him, he will show he has way bigger cojones and swagger than Kareem Jackson. Besides, he couldn’t be much worse than KJ right?
by Da babyfacedassassin Meco on Jan 24, 2012 8:01 AM CST reply actions
I'm starting to think that Kareem has potential
I thought he played good in the playoffs. The other teams went at him strong and the plays made against him were perfect throw-catches and some that were almost improbable.
I really hope Kareem comes back next season and reaches another level.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
I just hope an offseason with competent coaches around him will make a difference next season
Murphy’s 20th Military Law:
If it’s stupid, but it works, it ain’t stupid
"Fuck em all. Go Texans."
by The Night Owl on Jan 24, 2012 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
yep i have to agree.
A whole offseason will benefit this team so much.
2012 1st round draft pick is...............
Need a fast-forward on the calendar.
I’m ready NOW.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
by FreedomRide on Jan 24, 2012 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Just like last offseason, I hope
I don’t think the Texans will be adding a whole coaching philosophy to one side of the ball like they did with the defense, and I don’t expect to see a free agent impact like they received from Joseph and Manning…. and man, would it be possible to duplicate the draft impact that Watt and Reed had? I don’t know. But, getting healthy, yes! Last offseason brought back Barwin, Ryans and Tate, and that was big. I think Cushing was healthier going into this season than he was during the previous season. Getting healthy is probably the biggest offseason expectation. Schaub, AJ, Mario Williams (if he can be retained) would be a good start. Getting Brisiel back to 100% would be great. Sharpton, need him. There was a lot of potential sitting on the sidelines during this past season. Yep, getting healthy and the draft, I think are the two biggest offseason benefits to expect this year.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Please, let's be realistic here.
Try to curb your unreasonable expectations.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
I am finding it hard to be too concerned about Harris. It's not that I wish him bad things. I understand he's a bright, good guy. If the NFL isn't for him, I'm sure he'll be okay in life.
Sure, the team had hoped for good things from him. But, the draft is like a game of horseshoes. Sometimes you hit a ringer, sometimes the horseshoe bounces off and doesn’t even score. If Harris can’t cut it, he will get cut. He is smallish and one of the ways he could boost his value is with speed. If he doesn’t have speed, he’s just a small, slow guy and those guys don’t usually do well at the NFL CB position. The good news is that the Texans have become a deeper team, which make Harris a peripheral player and they can look to improve that position in the draft. He is depth at best right now and on the street at worst. in the future.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
My only question is this,
why draft him in the 2nd round, trading up to do so no less, if they had concerns about his speed?
I have yet to see one single credible source that said the Texans were concerned about his speed
If you know of one, please link it
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
PFW /= "credible source"?
Mmm, yeah: I think not.
PFW is the National Enquirer of the NFL.
"How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!"
-Chief Inspector Dreyfus
It'd be different they said, "according to sources within the organization" or "team officials confirm"
Instead, we get “word is…..”
Word is? Who’s word? John McClain?
Until it’s sourced, this is all just speculative crap IMO.
I'm a man!! I'm forty!!
calm down everyone
harris will play next year and play well
jason allen will not be back
@THEREALALLENOU on twitter - "The man, the verb, the legend" OU'd
Who cares about Harris?
I don’t remember if he ever wore a uni on gameday.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
Allen should be cheap to re-sign
but I hope he gets beat out. We know his ceiling.
TJ must throw 30 times for us to win.
And the fact that Harris may not have the ability to succeed in the NFL, I would put more value on signing Allen
and again, who cares about Harris. He didn’t suit up for a reason. Be it lack of speed, lack of experience, or whatever. What’s going to change between now and the start of next season with Harris? What puts him on the field over Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Brice McCain or a 2012 2nd round draft pick? What about the other guys already on the team; McMannis and Carmichael? Is McMannis going to Safety? Wasn’t Carmichael on IR? I thought he was supposed to have talent.
"All our lives we're taught to get in line. The ones who conform never discover." - Undrafted Free Agent and NFL Rushing Leader Arian Foster
McManis is ahead of him so he's most likely the Allen replacement if they don't sign a new CB.
Plus Roc C. is going to be back so he could always take Harris’s spot.
Prediction: 11-5 AFC South champions.
this
we had injuries all over the field, not at CB. There were bigger fish to fry re: active players each week.
And when we did have an injury in the defensive backfield, his name was mentioned, even out of position.
I think he contributes in the next couple years.
TJ must throw 30 times for us to win.

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