Hypothetical Question for those lusting after a planetoid NT

by BleachBum on Feb 21, 2012 1:03 PM CST

Suppose JJ Watt had an identical twin and he was on the Texans roster. Would you play him at NT rather than Shaun Cody? How much of an improvement would you expect, if any? Would you still want to draft Poe, Ta'amu, or someone similar? Keep in mind that your planetoid man-love has maybe 20 lbs more wt than Cody at 310, and Cody has another 20 lbs on Watt. Poll after the jump. Please explain your vote.

Poll

Would would you do with Watt's twin?

Watt just doesnt have the weight to be any good at NT

8 votes

Watt would be a significant improvement over Cody, but I would still lust after a planetoid

17 votes

Thinking of JJ double Watt at NT makes me drool with excitement

35 votes

other

8 votes

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I think Cody is around 290 these days.

by Nashmeister on Feb 21, 2012 1:24 PM CST reply actions

Watt > Cody at any position

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by Rip Jersey on Feb 21, 2012 1:39 PM CST reply actions

Drooling

And I openly advocate rotating Watt in at NT.

Wade’s system is 1-gap. This means, he wants his d-line to get upfield, upset, and penetrate. This does place a greater burden on LBs, naturally, but the goal is to upset timing and get to the QB. In Wade’s system, a plantoid NT is not a must. I wouldn’t mind if he’s a combination of both!

I’m not fond of an NT being a turnstile, either.

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by bigfatdrunk on Feb 21, 2012 2:00 PM CST reply actions

I like the available options at the DE spot more than NT

I think I am in the minority on this, but players like Fletcher Cox, Kendall Reyes, and Derek Wolfe seem like a better fit to me than Poe and Ta’amu. You have the flexibility to try them at DT, or use them for needed back up at DE, or both.

by BleachBum on Feb 21, 2012 3:19 PM CST up reply actions

With ya

This is a different system. Adapt or die. That said, if you believe Poe or Ta’amu have the quickness, then you can go with them.

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by bigfatdrunk on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 PM CST up reply actions

Also with you.

Penetrators…

mount up!

by willieboyd on Feb 22, 2012 12:38 PM CST up reply actions

TWSS,

of course.

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by FreedomRide on Feb 22, 2012 3:04 PM CST up reply actions

On obvious passing downs

could we see Cody coming out?

D-line of Smith, Watt and Mario?

LBs of Barwin, Cushing, and Reed?

DBs in nickel?

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by Rip Jersey on Feb 21, 2012 4:03 PM CST up reply actions

Read what you just said

And see how awesome that would be.

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by bigfatdrunk on Feb 21, 2012 11:48 PM CST up reply actions

Thought you might like that

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by Rip Jersey on Feb 22, 2012 9:20 AM CST up reply actions

Totally agree, BFD

It’s just too simple that it HAS to work! I’d honestly love to see Watt rotate at NT; he’s disruptive on the outside, just think of the possibilities inside!

My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.

by f22a4bandit on Feb 21, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions

ha...

just gimme Solia

by EveryHoustonTeamRox! on Feb 21, 2012 2:12 PM CST reply actions

i would rather have kareem jackson at nose tackle than cody.

at least when he fell he could trip somebody properly.

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by NoSafetiesNeeded on Feb 21, 2012 2:17 PM CST reply actions

JJ Watt does have a Twin

His name IS Mario Williams

True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?

by WreckNTexan on Feb 21, 2012 2:43 PM CST reply actions

yeah, if you bring back Mario

you could certainly move him back to DE with Smith, leave Barwin and Reed at OLB, and move Watt inside to DT

by BleachBum on Feb 21, 2012 4:25 PM CST up reply actions

I always wanted to see Mario at NT

Sure Watt could virtually be the same player

True arrogance has been displayed here- WestministerRavensfan or something
Hi My name is Jack, why don't you help me off?

by WreckNTexan on Feb 21, 2012 4:59 PM CST up reply actions

I don't think it would matter a whole lot how you lined them up

just pick the best matchups and let em go. It would make for an awesome front 7 with Meco and Cush

by BleachBum on Feb 21, 2012 5:12 PM CST up reply actions

Way too thin at OLB then.

Also Bruce Smith said playing DE in the 3-4, therefore being an easy double team and chop target, cost him 100 career sacks. Source

If we resign Mario to a big contract, I hope he stays at WOLB. I really think it would prolong his career (the torn pec was a fluke).

by willieboyd on Feb 22, 2012 12:46 PM CST up reply actions

Here's the Bruce Smith quote.

Had you been a 4-3 end your whole career, how many more sacks might you have had?

BS: I’ve been told by other offensive linemen and coaches that had to scheme against me, ‘Bruce, you probably would have ended up with 300 sacks as opposed to 200 because of those double teams you had to face, occasional triple teams and the abuse and wear and tear on your body.’ I’ve had nine to 11 surgeries as a result of the chop blocks and things of that nature.
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by willieboyd on Feb 22, 2012 12:49 PM CST up reply actions

Isn't chop blocking a penalty now?

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by Rip Jersey on Feb 22, 2012 3:42 PM CST up reply actions

The NFL’s rule against illegal chop blocks is often misunderstood, even by NFL linemen. Cut blocks are legal. It’s even legal for an offensive lineman on a running play to engage a defensive lineman and then have a second offensive lineman come in and hit the defensive lineman low. It only becomes illegal if the two offensive players engaged in the high-low blocks weren’t lined up next to each other on the offensive line. So it’s legal with a center and a guard, but illegal with a center and a tackle.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/11/01/kubiak-says-cut-blocks-just-part-of-what-we-do/

by willieboyd on Feb 22, 2012 5:38 PM CST up reply actions

Double Watt-bows!!!

by GatorTD on Feb 21, 2012 7:39 PM CST reply actions

Give me Josh Chapman & Derek Wolfe instead

There’s more versatility with what you can do those two. You can go with a starting line of Watt, Chapman, & Smith with Wolfe, Cody, Mitchell, & Jamison as the backups. You could go heavy with Chapman, Cody, & Mitchell. You could go with a 3 DE front with Watt, Wolfe, & Smith. You could go with the vanilla line of Watt, Cody, & Wolfe, or the chocolate front of with Smith, Chapman, & Jamison/Mitchell. Tons of options here so you can rotate out & keep them fresh.

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by The Night Owl on Feb 21, 2012 11:58 PM CST reply actions