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Why The Texans Should Trade Sage Rosenfels

Ever since Don Banks reported that the Minnesota Vikings offered a third-round pick for Sage Rosenfels, Texans fans have been buzzing about whether their beloved franchise should bid adieu to The Schaub's backup.  And the buzz only intensified once Quinn Gray decided to make Reliant Park his home for the next year.  Predictably, Kubes immediately sought to put out the firestorm of speculation that Gray's arrival was a precursor for Sage's departure:

"I know what people are saying, but signing Quinn has absolutely nothing to do with it," Kubiak said about acquiring Gray to expedite a trade for Rosenfels. "I've been a two-quarterback type of guy, but what happened to us last season scared the heck out of me, and I don't want to go through that again."

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"I don't know what we would have done if something had happened to Sage," Kubiak said. "I don't want to go through that again. I think my philosophy has changed. I've become more of a three-quarterback guy."

Some media types have firmly opined that the Texans must not/cannot/should not trade Sage under any circumstances, addition of Gray be damned.  While I understand the lure of hanging on to a backup QB who has shown he can succeed, particularly considering the fact that Matt Schaub's first season as a No. 1 QB saw him miss parts of four (4) games and the entirety of five (5) others, I completely and totally disagree with the notion that the Texans should keep Rosenfels when there's a competitive market for his services.  And at the end of the day, my feelings are based upon a single undeniable truth:

It doesn't make any sense to keep a backup when he could fetch you a starter in trade.

Spare me the "one play away" and/or the "you need depth in the NFL, especially at QB" arguments.  I'll even concede both of those points.  Fact is, the presence of Quinn Gray vitiates both of those reservations.  Know what else a team needs, even more than it needs depth?  As many good players as possible out on the field at one time!  Keeping an asset (which I wholly believe Sage Rosenfels is) on the sideline when you've got clear holes at other starting positions (e.g., LT, LDE, DT, CB, S) makes no sense.  

I know there's no guarantee that whoever you'd draft in the second, third, etc. round as a result of trading Sage would pan out as a quality starter.  But in theory, Smithiak could at least target the best available player at a position of need in an effort to remedy an existing deficiency.  Having Sage hold a clipboard does nothing to address a current hole; it's a mere luxury in the event that The Schaub goes down.  Doesn't it make infinitely more sense to trade Sage in order to acquire a young player who would contribute immediately (which, if you look at Smithiak's draft history over the past two (2) seasons, is a virtual certainty), instead of keeping Sage on the basis of the possibility that he sees the field?

In my opinion, it's not even reasonably debatable.  You have to trade Sage Rosenfels.

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I almost believe him
But I hope he's just using that three-quarterback thing in order to up the anty and pull in more than a 3rd-rounder.

Fact of the matter is, if Schaub goes down for four games next season, we'd all be very content to go 2-2 during that stint. If we keep Rosenfels, sure, we have a good chance of doing that... But for the other twelve (and hopefully more with the postseason) games in the season, he's useless.

If we get a 2nd-round pick in return though and use it to nab a solid RB, not only does that rookie help us for the entire season, but there's a good chance Quinn Gray can go out and go 2-2 if said draft pick gives us a running game.

by Nashmeister on Mar 29, 2008 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Well done!

by clamslayer @ Battle Red Blog on Mar 29, 2008 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Wowzaa!
"I'll even concede both of those points.  Fact is, the presence of Quinn Gray vitiates both of those reservations."  VITIATES. Not that I had to look it up,.. definition 3 is something that I might have to use in the future:
3. debase something: to degrade something morally.
Oh and yea, I agree totally with trading Rosey for a possible starter. Good stuff!

by 1Texan on Mar 29, 2008 6:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Sage
Agreed.  You lose a great backup, and gain a likely starter in a need position, and still have a good backup.

I think you make the move... but I still would hesitate to do it for anything less than at least a HIGH third rounder.

by HoustonDiehards on Mar 29, 2008 10:37 PM CDT reply actions  

Another point...
Isn't Sage a FA at the end of the '08 season?  If so, and the market for a QB is still strong next year, then we risk getting absolutely nothing in return for losing Sage in 1 year.
We can be critical of the draft picks, but in the end we always support the new Texan.

by Shake on Mar 30, 2008 10:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Not yet
I think he becomes a free agent in 2010 (which should make him worth a ton). How does restricted free agency work though? Does it depend on the contract, or would we ever be able to tender Sage and get draft picks in return?

by Nashmeister on Mar 30, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Contract
He becomes a free agent in 2009, after the '09 season, specifically... so he has this coming season and one more with Houston still.

I don't think it will make him worth a ton at all.. unless he once again starts several games and once again plays as well as he has.  People talk about Sage as if he's always been as good as he was last year.  He's been 'solid' in the past but nowhere CLOSE to how he was last season.

He'll be 32 when his contract is up, and will either be firmly entrenched on the bench if Schaub stays healthy, or he'll continue to spot start when Matt is hurt.  His value isn't ever going to be higher than it is right now:

  1. He's still relatively young.
  2. He's coming off his best year EVER.
  3. Because of his career as a backup, he has very little tread on his tires.
  4. He's got a very attractive contract. (Actually this is probably the biggest reason why his value is so high right now).
I think it's a BIG stretch to assume that he'll be as good as he was last season.  

No, I don't think we should shop Sage... but if an offer comes to us on draft day, and it's a high 3rd-rounder or better, I think you take it, now that we have another serviceable backup.

by HoustonDiehards on Mar 30, 2008 2:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Superbly articulated, Tim
That was as persuasive a post as I have read in my time here at BRB (which has been quite a while), and I agree wholeheartedly with you.  There are teams out there who are in dire need of a good QB and might be willing to let go of either their 2nd round pick or multiple picks.  Being able to trade a guy who currently is a back-up, while we have another player of quality at his position, for a guy who could be a starter at a position of need to us is an opportunity that can't be passed up.

If Smithiak read BRB, the Texans front office could gain some serious perspective.  I think that they often over-think things and sometimes need to take a step back to see the most basic level of what needs to be done to improve the team.  That's what this is: keeping Sage can't improve the Texans, but trading him for a starter can.

by BigTexBD on Mar 30, 2008 5:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Best reason
The best reason to trade Sage is because Justice and McClain say not to...since we know what great personnel men they are!

by danger man on Mar 31, 2008 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

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